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| 01:37.52 | fuze | is there a kwin rule that can automatically close a window? |
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| 02:21.27 | vanta_black | Hey there! |
| 02:21.35 | vanta_black | Is it possible to change the way KDE tiles things? |
| 02:21.46 | vanta_black | As in, make one window snap to 2/3 of the screen and another snap to 1/3? |
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| 02:22.33 | vanta_black | To basically divide up the grid windows snap to in different ways? |
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| 02:43.23 | Zren | Probably not by default, but there might be a tiling kwin script |
| 02:43.28 | Zren | vanta_black, |
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| 05:42.17 | mistnim | hi, do you know any other WM/DE which has something similar to kde's activities? |
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| 05:52.05 | acosonic | Why is this not per deffault? http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2016/03/how-to-fix-ugly-libreoffice-font-rendering-kde.html |
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| 05:58.08 | thiago | subpixel anti-aliasing may not be possible in your system due to some patent restrictions |
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| 05:58.20 | thiago | subpixel doesn't look good on all displays either |
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| 06:48.55 | ntz | hello |
| 06:49.31 | ntz | please help me somebody ... suddenly the whole kontact stopped fetching emails and doing the things .. In .xsession-errors is: Unable to fetch item from backend (collection -1) : Unable to retrieve item from resource: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network |
| 06:49.37 | ntz | connection was broken. |
| 06:49.38 | ntz | I have ofc net connection |
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| 06:58.35 | wz1000 | Since I upgraded to plasma 5.10, my music state toggles on suspend. So if I have my music paused, it starts playing when I resume from suspend. |
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| 08:11.46 | ntz | http://susepaste.org/view/raw/98752404 |
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| 08:12.13 | ntz | wtf ... idiotic kde are completely ignoring that ... konqueror ignores it, akonadi ignores it, wtf |
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| 08:18.01 | ntz | omg, I want to wake up from this bad dream ... is it reported that kde/plasma are completely ignoring a proxy settings, is this known ? |
| 08:18.36 | ntz | what is then the systemsettings->Network->Settings->Proxy good for ???? |
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| 08:51.46 | viscera | The documents list in Application Launcher -> History -> Documents, can I get that in the Dolphin Places sidebar? |
| 08:51.57 | viscera | i.e. more entries, in a file manager for ease of use, etc. |
| 08:52.08 | viscera | Like Nautilus' Recently Used, basically |
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| 09:08.51 | viscera | I may have found the fix --- https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/220145/get-recent-files-in-global-file-manager-dolphin |
| 09:09.13 | viscera | Need to test more, because the list of recent documents seems short, but maybe I just haven't done much... |
| 09:09.22 | viscera | is starting to like this DE again |
| 09:10.03 | viscera | I have to press F5 to refresh the list after I open the document, which is a bit strange... |
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| 09:13.48 | tosky | it is indeed |
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| 09:16.43 | viscera | Hmm, nope, it doesn't seem to work consistently. I open a jpg from the other Dolphin pane, press F5 and it doesn't appear in Recent |
| 09:16.45 | viscera | :( |
| 09:17.56 | viscera | Oh wait, it does... just not ordered |
| 09:18.52 | viscera | Maybe I have noatime for /home |
| 09:20.05 | viscera | relatime* |
| 09:20.40 | viscera | GNOME seems to get away with implementing this with relatime enabled. I think it relies on tracker (like baloo) to do this. |
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| 09:39.44 | viscera | Ooh, I found a better way -- link to $HOME/.local/share/RecentDocuments/ |
| 09:40.22 | viscera | Life is once again peachy |
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| 11:03.30 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 11:49.19 | AppAraat | hi, I wanted to install xsane but it apparently installs gimp too (Neon UE), is there a KDE native scanning application I can use? Is this recommended? https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/skanlite/ |
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| 13:35.39 | ShalokShalom | the default Dolphin search engine cannot find folders by their name? |
| 13:35.43 | ShalokShalom | KFind can |
| 13:35.49 | ShalokShalom | all newest |
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| 13:46.53 | viscera | ShalokShalom: works for me |
| 13:47.18 | viscera | ShalokShalom: you mean Baloo, right? |
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| 13:52.36 | ShalokShalom | viscera: yep |
| 13:52.40 | ShalokShalom | all up to date? |
| 13:52.50 | ShalokShalom | will try it later with a new user |
| 13:53.07 | viscera | ShalokShalom: Arch x86_64 up to date, with linux-lts kernel |
| 13:53.17 | ShalokShalom | oh fine |
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| 13:54.18 | ShalokShalom | oh, its a Git repo |
| 13:54.20 | ShalokShalom | in that one too? |
| 13:56.48 | viscera | ShalokShalom: as in, a directory checked out to your git working dir? Or you simply have a git repo on disk? |
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| 13:57.04 | ShalokShalom | i git clone it |
| 13:57.12 | ShalokShalom | so i think the second one |
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| 13:57.44 | viscera | ShalokShalom: I'm not sure that Baloo knows about git repos, but I'm not overly familiar with it. Maybe there's a plugin. I highly doubt it, though. |
| 13:58.09 | ShalokShalom | thanks |
| 13:58.18 | ShalokShalom | is there a Git repo on your computer? |
| 13:58.19 | viscera | ShalokShalom: just use git to search somehow |
| 13:58.22 | viscera | ShalokShalom: no |
| 13:58.25 | ShalokShalom | thx |
| 13:58.53 | viscera | Actually, I probably have a few laying aabout |
| 13:58.54 | ShalokShalom | yeah, it finds folders outside of this repo |
| 13:58.55 | viscera | about* |
| 14:00.19 | ShalokShalom | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380893 |
| 14:00.24 | ShalokShalom | thx again |
| 14:01.15 | viscera | ShalokShalom: that's not how you file a bug |
| 14:01.26 | ShalokShalom | why? |
| 14:01.38 | ShalokShalom | to short? |
| 14:01.40 | viscera | bugtrackers aren't support forums |
| 14:02.16 | viscera | ShalokShalom: https://bugzilla.readthedocs.io/en/5.0/using/filing.html#reporting-a-new-bug |
| 14:03.00 | ShalokShalom | thx |
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| 15:29.31 | AppAraat | re: Scanning application - I found simple-scan to do the job. Xsane for some reason hid the window after being started in the CLI. I tested it also on Lubuntu 16.04 so I suppose this is an issue for the upstream. |
| 15:29.34 | lacrymology | I'm trying to use KGpg, but when trying to encrypt a file from dolphin, it just fails (the kgpg window appears for a second and then goes away) |
| 15:29.46 | lacrymology | any clues where there might be a log of what's failing? |
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| 16:28.10 | zaratustra | is it possible to remove this auto-pinning to the taskbar on plasma5? |
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| 16:29.30 | kishore96_ | Autopinning? |
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| 16:56.08 | Zren_ | zaratustra, ? |
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| 16:57.58 | zaratustra | yes |
| 16:58.06 | zaratustra | if I close an app it will be pinned |
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| 16:59.12 | wz1000 | Since I upgraded to plasma 5.10, my music state toggles on suspend. So if I have my music paused, it starts playing when I resume from suspend. Is there any way to stop kde from messing with my music on suspend? |
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| 17:03.00 | tosky | wz1000: I think that it can be configured |
| 17:03.17 | tosky | wz1000: this is when it was introduced, you can see that there is a configuration: https://phabricator.kde.org/D4960 |
| 17:03.23 | wz1000 | tosky: Found it under advanced power management |
| 17:03.26 | tosky | "test plan" section |
| 17:04.51 | wz1000 | Another bug: Pressing my media keys runs the action twice. So if I pause playing music, it will pause and then immediately start playing again. Same with next, prev (and I assume stop) |
| 17:05.28 | wz1000 | This isn't a problem with the media keys, manually calling the dbus signal also has the same behaviour. |
| 17:06.14 | wz1000 | When I remap my media keys to playbar instead of the default kde media thing, they work perfectly. |
| 17:06.26 | wz1000 | s/signal/method |
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| 17:27.33 | XYQuadrat | Hey, so I just built Gwenview and wanted to find a bug to work on but a lot of the older bugs I am viewing actually do not exist anymore. What should I do to help closing these apart from writing a comment that this can no longer be reproduced? |
| 17:29.27 | pepo | XYQuadrat, adding a comment already helps a lot. Please state which version you used, and what steps you tried to reproduce it. The original reporter might still see the issue with different steps. |
| 17:29.52 | XYQuadrat | Okay, will go ahead and do that :) |
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| 19:19.44 | Type16FN | hello. is there a way to increase the width of the "breeze" scrollbars in applications? thank you. |
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| 21:28.42 | fuze | is there a kwin command to bring a window to front? |
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| 21:41.11 | Zren_ | fuze, Use xdotool in a custom shortcut |
| 21:41.54 | Zren_ | https://askubuntu.com/questions/21262/shell-command-to-bring-a-program-window-in-front-of-another |
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| 21:54.29 | oprypin | fuze, you can set a kwin rule to do that |
| 21:54.53 | oprypin | menu > more actions > special window settings |
| 21:55.06 | fuze | oprypin: i dont want it to stay on the front |
| 21:55.22 | oprypin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.33 | oprypin | i get it |
| 21:55.36 | fuze | Zren: oprypin i paired the kwin special application setting shortcut to Meta + P |
| 21:55.54 | fuze | so what would the xdotool command for Meta + P be? |
| 21:56.21 | oprypin | fuze, wait, so you have a shortcut but you want an actual shell command to bring it to front? |
| 21:56.40 | fuze | oprypin: yes this way i can have it as a application shortcut on a panel |
| 21:57.13 | fuze | for some reason the developer hasn't added a shortcut to show the window when the icon is clicked in the tray or its not working for some reason |
| 21:57.14 | oprypin | well that's a bit of a xyproblem but |
| 21:57.46 | oprypin | some apps show the window when you just start it for the 2nd time |
| 21:58.12 | fuze | yes but there is a noticeable delay with just a standard application shortcut |
| 21:58.43 | fuze | i want the app to just reappear like a window in the task manager widget would |
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| 22:02.15 | oprypin | fuze, `xdotool keydown super key p keyup super` if you wanna go that path |
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| 22:03.22 | fuze | is there a better way to do it? |
| 22:04.32 | oprypin | well kwin dev could write a script to do it in a breeze |
| 22:04.33 | fuze | is there a way to have a single program in the taskbar widget as an icon without any text description |
| 22:05.10 | oprypin | fuze, that would just be a separate launcher widget usually |
| 22:05.29 | fuze | problem is the icon only switcher shows all the other programs too |
| 22:05.53 | oprypin | fuze, no no you're making a custom shortcut, it's not meant for a task switcher |
| 22:06.29 | oprypin | dammit i actually dont know |
| 22:06.33 | oprypin | fuze, does your app EVER show up in the task bar |
| 22:06.36 | fuze | oh yes, that works but it has a delay to show the window and if the button is double clicked it start a second instance and i don't want tat |
| 22:07.07 | fuze | oprypin: yes it does, but i dont want this particular app there because i like to leave it always running and it takes up so much space with its description |
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| 22:08.59 | oprypin | fuze, i would try this hack: edit your desired application's desktop file to be what it was before but prepend `xdotool keydown super key d keyup super; ` and also pin it to taskbar |
| 22:09.33 | oprypin | though then you're risking double-launching it like you're saying |
| 22:09.36 | oprypin | bleh |
| 22:11.01 | oprypin | why did they remove this functionality |
| 22:11.15 | fuze | ideally i could have an application launcher widget that would immediately show the program window and not launch an instance unless the program was not already running |
| 22:12.00 | fuze | though ideally the program would show the window when the icon in the notification tray was clicked on |
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| 22:13.53 | oprypin | fuze, i cannot believe this is the easiest way to add a shortcut to panel but i sure am disappointed that it's become so difficult to figure out |
| 22:14.25 | oprypin | fuze, create a file bleh.desktop with these contents https://bpaste.net/show/74acda2fe8f0 |
| 22:14.33 | oprypin | and drag it to panel (making sure it's unlocked first) |
| 22:15.01 | fuze | Yes i have done this and it works |
| 22:15.10 | fuze | it doesnt launch the program if its not running though |
| 22:15.28 | fuze | but thats not a big issue for me because i set it to run at startup anyway |
| 22:15.59 | oprypin | and you said that your app starts another instance when you launch it |
| 22:16.26 | fuze | not with xdotool keydown super key p keyup super |
| 22:16.32 | oprypin | thats the biggest hurdle - the fact that this action is not ignored instead or more usefully makes the app go to top |
| 22:16.39 | oprypin | no im not talking about xdotool |
| 22:17.26 | fuze | Meta + P does not start an instance |
| 22:17.26 | fuze | it just shows the window |
| 22:22.35 | oprypin | fuze, edit your app's desktop file to this: |
| 22:22.54 | oprypin | xdotool search --onlyvisible --class 'app_class_name' windowactivate || app_command |
| 22:23.01 | oprypin | and pin to task bar |
| 22:23.35 | oprypin | app_class_name you can find in the current kwin rule; might make it |
| 22:23.48 | oprypin | app_class_name you can find in the current kwin rule; might make it '^app_class_name$' to match whole string for safety |
| 22:23.57 | oprypin | app_command is what's currently in the desktop file |
| 22:24.41 | oprypin | by editing the app's desktop file i mean making a user-local copy and editing that. which can be done automatically by rightclick on application launcher > edit applications |
| 22:24.43 | fuze | awesome, that seems to work |
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| 22:26.49 | fuze | would there be a way to hide the app icon squishing up and down while following the cursor shortly after the shortcut is clicked |
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| 22:31.08 | oprypin | fuze, pretty sure there's an individual setting for that if you edit the desktop file in kde's dedicated gui |
| 22:31.47 | fuze | alright ill look into it |
| 22:31.56 | oprypin | or you can get rid of it globally |
| 22:32.22 | oprypin | apparently it waits for the command that is ran to produce a window |
| 22:32.34 | oprypin | but xdotool doesn't |
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| 22:41.15 | fuze | oprypin: i managed to do it via the KDE Menu Editor GUI |
| 22:41.46 | fuze | theres an option to disable launch feedback |
| 22:41.48 | fuze | thank you for the help, it functions just as i'd like it to |
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