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02:28.55 | JZA | hi people, I wonder how can I display the Language for the keyboard on the taskbar |
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03:18.18 | SaEeDIRHA | hello guys , how can i add an item to system's context menu? for example i want to add my script run where users click on Copy/Paste context menu |
03:18.27 | SaEeDIRHA | is that context menu system wide or its individual to each application ? |
03:19.32 | SaEeDIRHA | i want to add item to pop menu when user click on right click |
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03:33.06 | jaggz | ugh.. buggy.. |
03:33.27 | jaggz | whatever happened to a good ol' list of all windows in the (alt-tab) task switcher? |
03:33.44 | jaggz | now, when I change mine, it doesn't even change |
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03:42.36 | jaggz | my task manager is showing the wrong windows |
03:42.44 | jaggz | I even closed down one but it still shows it |
03:42.50 | jaggz | I toggled desktop effects but it doesn't fix it |
03:45.11 | jaggz | yeah -- changing the task switcher has no effect.. gaw. |
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04:11.37 | jcarder | have a problem with KDE on debian 9 live from usb, once in the gui it crashes and goes back to the login screen |
04:11.43 | jcarder | it does this every few seconds |
04:12.13 | jcarder | kde5 plasma |
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04:31.37 | jaggz | jcarder, Yuck! |
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04:46.50 | jcarder | jaggz, ya its really annoying |
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04:47.25 | jaggz | jcarder, have you examined the log? |
04:49.59 | jcarder | no not yet |
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11:12.10 | Combined2857 | just installed manjaro KDE, does KDE lag horribly for you when you are copying files ? |
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11:19.05 | M_aD | Combined2857: never experienced that. i'd ask in the manjaro support channel though |
11:20.13 | M_aD | it could be possible it's a distro related issue |
11:21.12 | Combined2857 | it was the file indexing on the process baloo_file_extractor took up 97 % of CPU |
11:21.16 | Combined2857 | i disabled it |
11:22.12 | M_aD | thanks for the feedback, good to know :) |
11:22.22 | Combined2857 | Also, i tried to google it but had no luck, anyone managed to make the Super key in the keyboad (Windows) open the menu ? |
11:22.34 | hateball | it takes a while on a new install for baloo to finish indexing |
11:22.45 | hateball | after that it shouldnt really be noticable |
11:23.03 | hateball | Combined2857: what menu? kickoff? |
11:23.29 | Combined2857 | I'm not sure how its called, the "Application Launcher" |
11:23.32 | hateball | meta press/release should open it by default from plasma 5.8 iirc, dunno what manjaro uses |
11:23.46 | Combined2857 | let me ask in manjaro |
11:23.55 | hateball | "plasmashell -v" |
11:24.14 | hateball | I personally only use krunner (alt+space) to launch things |
11:24.37 | M_aD | super key should work ootb these days |
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11:26.12 | M_aD | Combined2857: https://github.com/hanschen/ksuperkey |
11:26.25 | Combined2857 | I use plasmashell 5.10.2 |
11:26.36 | Combined2857 | I'm not sure my Super key works actually |
11:26.57 | Combined2857 | I pressed Super + E to open dolphin ( is that a shortcut in kde?) and nothing happens |
11:27.45 | M_aD | the fix your superkey first :D |
11:27.51 | M_aD | the/then |
11:28.14 | M_aD | see, i need to clean my keyboard |
11:28.17 | M_aD | ;) |
11:28.54 | Combined2857 | it does recognize it, i tried to make a new shortcut and when i pressed it it recognized it as Meta |
11:29.14 | Combined2857 | M_aD: do I need to install this package or I could make a global shortcut ? |
11:30.20 | M_aD | you mean ksuperkey? |
11:30.27 | Combined2857 | M_aD: yep |
11:30.58 | M_aD | no need to install it as it's supported by default in Plasma 5.8 and above. |
11:32.03 | M_aD | read the "Plasma 5.8 and above" part |
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11:40.23 | Combined2857 | I will try to install it M_aD it seems I dont have it |
11:40.50 | Combined2857 | I tried the command ksuperkey in my terminal and it did nothing |
11:40.59 | Combined2857 | also I couldn't install it with pacman |
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11:41.28 | Combined2857 | maybe i'll install this https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ksuperkey/ |
11:41.51 | M_aD | Combined2857: again, there's no need to install it... |
11:42.20 | M_aD | did you read the Readme on that github page? |
11:42.23 | Combined2857 | M_aD how do I check if it is installed ? |
11:42.35 | Combined2857 | then why is my meta key not opening the launcher |
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11:44.21 | M_aD | you didn't answer my question and i'm not going on repeating the same thing over again |
11:44.43 | Combined2857 | M_aD: You did tell me its included in 5.8 + |
11:45.42 | M_aD | the feature is so just edit the kwinrc in ~/.config/kwinrc |
11:46.16 | M_aD | and add [ModifierOnlyShortcuts] Meta= |
11:46.37 | M_aD | as shown in the Readme and logout and back in |
11:46.57 | M_aD | after you save the edited file of course |
11:47.05 | M_aD | not too difficult |
11:47.07 | Combined2857 | M_aD: thank you I did it, but I have to wait till my copying ends until I can log out |
11:47.32 | M_aD | rgr |
11:47.34 | M_aD | :) |
11:47.55 | Combined2857 | sadly I still get lags, process plasmashell and file.so take up 20% of CPU each |
11:48.15 | Combined2857 | and kwin_x11 takes 11 % |
11:49.01 | Combined2857 | do you guys also lag a lot when you copy files ? |
11:54.40 | harklark | about the meta key opening the menu - you need to set the application launcher's shortcut to alt+f1 |
11:55.11 | harklark | If you mean the application launcher in the default KDE panel |
11:55.26 | harklark | that way it also binds itself automatically to your meta key |
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11:58.25 | harklark | If you want some other functionality you can add an entry to your ~/.config/kwinrc file |
11:58.27 | harklark | for instance: |
11:58.38 | harklark | [ModifierOnlyShortcuts] |
11:58.39 | harklark | Meta=org.kde.lattedock,/Latte,org.kde.LatteDock,activateLauncherMenu |
11:58.51 | harklark | does what you said except with an application launcher in latte dock |
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12:00.44 | Combined2857 | hmmm |
12:01.20 | Combined2857 | I right click the launcher, i select options then keyboard shortcuts and I set it to alt + F1? |
12:01.24 | Combined2857 | harklark: ? |
12:01.29 | harklark | yes |
12:01.35 | harklark | that should make the meta key work |
12:01.52 | harklark | as long as you're using the regular kde panel that is |
12:02.34 | Combined2857 | meta still not working but maybe because I edited kwinrc ? |
12:02.43 | harklark | what did you add there? |
12:03.04 | Combined2857 | [ModifierOnlyShortcuts] |
12:03.05 | Combined2857 | Meta= |
12:03.16 | harklark | yes that exactly cancels this behavior xD |
12:03.17 | Combined2857 | I removed those lines and still not working |
12:03.29 | harklark | I think you need to relog after editing the kwinrc but not 100% on that |
12:03.39 | Combined2857 | I will soon, copying files atm |
12:03.48 | M_aD | yep, told to log out and in again |
12:04.56 | M_aD | why did you remove the lines in the first place if you didn't log out/in....? |
12:05.31 | Combined2857 | M_aD: I will try both ways once I am able to log out |
12:07.08 | M_aD | why are you wasting our time... read what we explained then try to do so, if it then still doesn't work then come back or file a bug against manjaro |
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12:07.56 | M_aD | don't add lines and remove them without logging out and back in or reboot... |
12:08.26 | M_aD | is afk for a while |
12:10.40 | harklark | Give the guy a break, I'm the one who raised the subject again before he reported back |
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12:24.41 | Combined2857 | gotta say though, knoversation is the best irc client |
12:27.18 | M_aD | likes quassel a lot :) |
12:27.53 | harklark | The only other irc client I've used was mIRC way back when |
12:29.17 | Combined2857 | now you are using konversation harklark? |
12:29.43 | Combined2857 | I thought hexchat was the most configurable of them all but surely now that I explored konversation is much better |
12:29.57 | harklark | yep using konversation |
12:31.03 | Combined2857 | I think all KDE apps are the best in their category, except from music player (amarok is old, clementine is way better) and maybe office where LO is better than kaligra |
12:31.26 | Combined2857 | I just started using kmail instead of thunderbird and I find it nice |
12:31.52 | Combined2857 | although i think its very annoying that I need to use seperate app for my calendar and seperate for kmail, thunderbird had both in one |
12:32.10 | asturm | Combined2857: just start kontact and then you have both inside one container application |
12:32.26 | Combined2857 | ah I will try that thanks asturm |
12:32.57 | Combined2857 | okular and kdenlive are some of the best linux apps out there |
12:33.10 | Combined2857 | clearly beating the other ones in their category |
12:33.34 | Combined2857 | but the best KDE application of them all is maybe krita |
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12:53.44 | Combined2857 | Hi guys, start menu now works with meta key thank you for your help |
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13:19.24 | Combined2857 | do you guys also get lag spikes when you copy files ? |
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13:38.06 | hateball | Combined2857: if by lag you mean network spikes, no |
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13:38.26 | hateball | if by lag you mean a generally slowly responding machine, then no |
13:38.39 | hateball | Combined2857: Are you using an HDD? |
13:38.52 | Combined2857 | hateball: yes, and no i get CPU spikes |
13:38.59 | Combined2857 | i use HDD |
13:39.00 | hateball | there was also a bug with the fily copy / notification applet in the tray |
13:39.11 | hateball | so it would murder the cpu when updating |
13:40.21 | Combined2857 | as I said plasmashell is 20 - 40 % cpu and another process called file.so also takes 20% sometimes |
13:40.40 | Combined2857 | very annoying spikes, innactivity for 3 -4 seconds |
13:40.46 | hateball | What kind of CPU are you using? |
13:40.53 | Combined2857 | intel i3 |
13:41.15 | hateball | that should handle it more than enough |
13:41.32 | hateball | sounds to me like there is a problem with some plasmoid of yours |
13:41.42 | Combined2857 | I was using mint cinnamon before and there was not CPU involvement when copying stuff |
13:41.42 | hateball | Combined2857: are you running a default desktop or have you added plasmoids? |
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13:41.58 | Combined2857 | hateball: no plasmoids, just a fresh manjaro install using plasma 5.10.2 |
13:42.01 | hateball | you could try like I said to remove the notification plasmoid |
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13:42.19 | hateball | that was bugged... at some point for me. shouldnt be now tho, unless regressed I guess |
13:42.30 | Combined2857 | yes the copying process is indicated in the taskbar |
13:43.08 | hateball | one can also disable it from showing file progress |
13:43.13 | hateball | and still have other notifications |
13:43.16 | hateball | just to test |
13:45.11 | Combined2857 | I will try that when I'm copying thank you hateball |
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13:47.29 | Combined2857 | hateball I press alt + F4 to shut down some apps in KDE (such as konversation) but they remain open, how do I disable this ? |
13:47.51 | Combined2857 | I want when I press alt +f4 or the X on the window to close the app not hide it |
13:48.09 | hateball | Combined2857: uh... I guess that's a per app setting somehow |
13:48.14 | hateball | I dont use Konversation so I cant say |
13:48.23 | hateball | but if you kill Kate that way, it shouldnt stay running |
13:48.56 | Combined2857 | ah i found it thank you |
13:49.02 | harklark | Combined2857 you can disable system tray |
13:50.09 | Combined2857 | harklark yep, that's what was causing it |
13:50.38 | Combined2857 | I appologize henceforth guys, I just switched to KDE so I will be asking a lot of noob questions in the following days |
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13:51.38 | hateball | Combined2857: well, shit like that shouldnt be broken, and it isnt for me, so you should ask your distro channel if they can reproduce/file bug |
13:52.05 | hateball | Combined2857: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356479 |
13:53.40 | Combined2857 | it says resovled fixed so it must be another bug, I will report it if I come across it again |
13:53.51 | Combined2857 | otherwise I will use rsync for large files |
13:54.59 | hateball | Combined2857: if you read the bug you'd see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312919 mentioned |
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13:55.36 | Combined2857 | guys another question: in cinnamon I used to switch desktops by Ctrl +Alt + Right or Left arrow, I did change that in the Desktops option, however I could also hold Ctrl + Shift + Alt + Right or left arrow to drag a widnow in another desktop, but I couldnt find the shortcut for that in Desktops |
13:55.44 | Combined2857 | are you aware of something like that ? |
13:55.50 | Combined2857 | sorry if im asking peksy questions |
13:56.10 | Combined2857 | thank you for that hateball, I will triage it when I get the chance |
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14:10.20 | armin | the "touchpad toggle" keyboard shortcut does not work here (it always only disables the touchpad but doesn't re-enable it). |
14:10.25 | armin | should i report a bug? |
14:10.28 | armin | the "touchpad toggle" keyboard shortcut does not work here (it always only disables the touchpad but doesn't re-enable it)./t |
14:10.35 | armin | err, mis-typed. |
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14:24.05 | Combined2857 | armin I suggest you do search for similar bugs and if you cant find one submit |
14:24.37 | Combined2857 | How do I remove this sound when I adjust the volume |
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14:26.30 | armin | Combined2857: right click the loudspeaker icon in the panel, click "Audio Volume Settings" thing, disable "Volume feedback". |
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14:29.36 | Combined2857 | armin: i love you bro |
14:29.43 | Combined2857 | and all of you guys in this channel |
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14:30.51 | Combined2857 | damn KDE is amazing |
14:32.39 | armin | Combined2857: <3 :) |
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14:38.35 | anug | hi, im running linux mint 18.1 cinnamon. i want to install kde in it |
14:39.23 | leszek | anug: I don't understand. Can you precise what you are trying to accomplish. What do you mean by KDE ? |
14:39.45 | anug | i mean plasma-desktop |
14:40.09 | anug | the software manager has it. but its older version |
14:40.45 | leszek | I guess because linux mint 18.1 is based on an older ubuntu version that only ships an older plasma version |
14:42.54 | Combined2857 | anug I would suggest installing mint KDE isntead of trying to uninstall cinnamon and install KDE |
14:42.59 | Combined2857 | its going to be a mess trust me |
14:43.14 | Combined2857 | i coulnd't even install dolphin in cinnamon |
14:43.14 | anug | ok. |
14:43.37 | anug | im trying install kde along with cinnamon |
14:45.28 | Combined2857 | why would you do that |
14:46.19 | asturm | anug: mint isn't known for providing recent versions |
14:46.31 | anug | just want to experience kde so i might thought of switching to it later completely |
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14:47.05 | anug | asturm: what would you suggest then? |
14:47.07 | Combined2857 | anug you can download mint KDE and use it as a live USB or use it in a VM |
14:52.03 | leszek | or use a distro that is known to come with kde plasma by default be supported by the distro better than on mint |
14:52.15 | leszek | like opensuse, maui, netrunner or even kde neon |
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14:53.22 | Chaos_ | anug: Run live |
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14:53.49 | anug | ok |
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14:54.16 | Chaos_ | anug: You can also put full OS on a USB stick but must be at least 16GB. |
14:54.18 | Combined2857 | I just switched from mint cinnamon to manjaro KDE anug gotta tell you I never go back |
14:54.31 | Combined2857 | I was using cinnamon for 2 years |
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14:55.03 | anug | Combined2857: can you provide any link to look into it |
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14:55.12 | anug | about manjaro kde |
14:55.29 | Chaos_ | anug: Google. |
14:55.46 | anug | Chaos_: right |
14:55.47 | NginUS | Neon's nice :-) |
14:55.52 | ryzokuken | I have to mention my passphrase everytime I use SSH, how can I make KDE ask for it once per session? |
14:56.08 | ryzokuken | It used to be that way in GNOME |
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15:24.48 | libin_v | I am running kdiff3 on macOS 10.12. When I create symbolic link of /Applications/kdiff3.app/Contents/MacOS/kdiff3 in /usr/local/bin/kdiff3 and launch kdiff3 from terminal, I am not able to click on the Menu Bar |
15:25.30 | libin_v | But launching /Applications/kdiff3.app/Contents/MacOS/kdiff3 from terminal works fine. Any idea what could be the issue |
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15:57.42 | nurupo | any way to tell plasma *not* to auto-mount a certain hdd partition, while allowing auto-mounting of all other things at login and when attached? |
15:59.25 | nurupo | i created a fstab entry for it with "noauto" and it, thinking maybe plasma would somehow react to that, but no :\ |
16:00.31 | nurupo | is it possible to mount something in fstab but make it non-reade and non-writable, such that you can't do anything with the mounted partition? |
16:00.49 | nurupo | so that plasma won't be able to mount it as it's already mounted |
16:01.11 | nurupo | the partition in question is a 100mib boot partition |
16:01.37 | nurupo | which is why i don't want it to be mounter, or if mounted, not be readable/writable |
16:04.55 | Sauerland | nurupo: noauto and users maybe in fstab..... than a user can mount and umount...otherwiese: man fstab |
16:05.47 | NginUS | nurupo: /etc/udev/rules.d/85-no-automount.rules |
16:05.47 | NginUS | SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ENV{UDISKS_AUTO}="0", ENV{UDISKS_IGNORE}="1' |
16:05.58 | Combined2857 | there is no shortcut to switch windows to another desktop eh ? |
16:06.01 | nurupo | seems like the best workaround to plasma auto-mounting it is to fstab it as read-only |
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16:07.53 | nurupo | Sauerland: already did noauto, plasma still mounts it. plasma probably doesn't even look in fstab, it just tries to mount it, and since noauto means that fstab didn't mount it, then it is mountable by plasma, so it proceeds to mounting it |
16:08.50 | Sauerland | I mean an partition on an intern disk....... |
16:09.00 | Sauerland | not usb |
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16:10.26 | nurupo | what usb? |
16:10.33 | nurupo | i'm talking about hdd partition |
16:11.05 | Sauerland | on an usb disk? |
16:11.17 | NginUS | Combined2857: https://ð»ð.ws/ð©ð¸ð² |
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16:12.08 | nurupo | NginUS: did you just google this? https://askubuntu.com/a/497960n |
16:12.17 | nurupo | uh, broken link. https://askubuntu.com/a/497960 |
16:12.28 | NginUS | nurupo: yea?? |
16:12.33 | nurupo | NginUS: i need *plasma* not to auto-mount it |
16:12.53 | nurupo | anyway, i tihnk my workaround should work, so it's all good now |
16:13.03 | NginUS | nurupo: owait no not that one- googled the kwin one |
16:13.15 | Combined2857 | NginUS: what is that ? |
16:13.17 | NginUS | brb, lemme find where i got yours |
16:13.27 | NginUS | Combined2857's |
16:13.50 | Combined2857 | stop trolling man |
16:13.55 | NginUS | Combined2857: says how to switch window to another desktop |
16:14.00 | NginUS | sry |
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16:14.05 | Combined2857 | there is a pizza in that link lol |
16:15.26 | Combined2857 | is there a way to do have a keyboard shortcut which switches active window to another desktop or not ? |
16:15.35 | Combined2857 | I havent had much luck with google |
16:15.41 | Combined2857 | or duckduckgo to be precise |
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16:22.37 | C0rn3j | Hi, I moved my taskbar menu thing on my second screen. I disconnected my second screen, and now I can't get the taskbar even after rebooting, what should I do? (except for reconnecting the screen and dragging it back) |
16:23.03 | C0rn3j | Looks like I have plasma 5.10.2 |
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21:49.31 | novakboskov | Hi everyone, KDE noob is here. I've installed Arch Linux with KDE Plasma 5 and currently using Breeze theme. I'm running it on a thinkpad 14 inch monitor and it looks to me like this theme use to much space. E.g. in Chromium browser there are two "info bars" - one is on the bottom (app launcher, time, system tray...) and another is on the top (that one with x button and application name). I would like to have all that information in |
21:49.31 | novakboskov | only one "bar", maybe one on the top is enough. How could I do that? |
21:51.04 | yans | novakboskov: show screenshot |
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21:53.01 | novakboskov | yans: Nothing special here, default settings of KDE Breeze theme. I did not make any modification. |
21:54.38 | tosky | novakboskov: if you talk about the panel in the bottom and the title bar of each window, they are totally different |
21:57.37 | novakboskov | tosky: I come from Ubuntu Unity. They use only one top bar which is everything at the same time. Can configure Plasma to behave similar? |
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21:58.39 | tosky | novakboskov: even the system tray? |
21:59.02 | novakboskov | tosky: Yes |
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21:59.14 | tosky | novakboskov: in each application? |
21:59.41 | novakboskov | tosky: Yeah :) |
22:00.16 | tosky | novakboskov: you could access the system tray in the title window of each application? |
22:00.47 | novakboskov | tosky: Only when an application is maximized |
22:01.48 | tosky | so first answer: no idea; try to play around |
22:07.14 | LazyGnoll | I suppose you need global menu |
22:12.30 | TRS-80 | Evening gents. So, fresh Windoze refugee. I am loving KDE so far, as well as the larger GNU/Linux ecosystem and underlying philosophy. One minor niggle though. My volume keeps resetting to 100% every time I reboot. :/ |
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22:26.11 | LazyGnoll | TRS-80: a lot of reasons why it could be happening, post more info like your distro/audio system/kde version; also start with checking if "restore volumes on login" is actually enabled in kmix (volume control thing in your tray) |
22:28.16 | saptech | I'm also having the audio volume resetting to 100% |
22:30.12 | saptech | I'm running Mageia 6 RC, Pulse Audio, Plasma5 v5.8.7 |
22:32.23 | saptech | I noticed when I right click the volume icon, Audio Volume Settings, Maximum Volume defaults to 100%. Making any changes does not keep. It always reverts back to 100%. |
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22:33.22 | saptech | but if I adjust the volume slider, it will accept new % until a reboot or log out/in |
22:34.52 | TRS-80 | LazyKnoll OK, I do not see any such option. I am running Debian testing, audio not sure, KDE Plasma 5:92 |
22:35.08 | TRS-80 | And my symptoms are exactly like saptech reports |
22:35.46 | TRS-80 | I forget all about it until the first time I get some error pop up with a "ding" sound and it's so loud it startles me out of my chair lol |
22:35.56 | saptech | well good to hear others are having it. I thought maybe it was the distro issue |
22:36.13 | saptech | now it seems it's kde's side |
22:37.17 | saptech | TRS-80, lol...yes it be very loud when you're not expecting or late night. |
22:38.09 | TRS-80 | Yes, also late when it is quiet it is bad news, my boo boo already complains about my mechanical keyboard as it is haha |
22:38.21 | saptech | heh |
22:44.17 | LazyGnoll | TRS-80: this option should be there when you click on kmix icon â gear button â "Start" tab |
22:44.29 | LazyGnoll | although I honestly don't know how kmix behaves when you use pulseaudio, it might be a pulseaudio setting or something |
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23:19.39 | saptech | LazyGnoll, I think it's pulse audio volume control icon |
23:23.19 | saptech | I'm getting ready for work |
23:23.46 | TRS-80 | Yeah I just ate dinner. |
23:24.19 | TRS-80 | LazyGnoll, looking at my packages, I do have pulseaudio 10.0-2, and not kmix installed |
23:25.05 | TRS-80 | checking elsewhere in settings, as I have no gear icon nor any other options in the volume tray icon, nor when I right click and select additional options |
23:27.41 | LazyGnoll | oh, sorry, this is a kmix option, but you probably need a pulseaudio setting or something, but I don't use pulseaudio so I'm not much of help here |
23:28.31 | TRS-80 | Yeah not seeing anything except the volume sliders, no other options anywhere |
23:28.47 | TRS-80 | even looked under system settings -> Multimedia |
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