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00:05.23TRS-80Ok, so I found settings under System Settings -> Application Style -> GNOME Application Style (GTK) and changed those to Breeze Dark also. But still Synaptic showing up as white theme. I am guessing this is becausee Synaptic launches as root? And I need to change root theme settings?
00:05.57TRS-80tried kdesu systemsettings (found advice on internet) but that didn't open anything
00:06.17TRS-80maybe need to do it from real console (alt f2)?
00:09.56TRS-80Aha! It's called systemsettings5
00:10.01TRS-80:)
00:10.29TRS-80doing kdesu systemsettings5 seems to have brought up the window I was looking for, in white. So I think I'm on the right track
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00:31.32OriginCodeCan I add other weather station for weather forecast?
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00:33.34Zrenheh, it doesn't like it when I apply module-echo-cancel _after_ module-loopback
00:34.39TRS-80OriginCode I dunno, but there don't appear to be many people replying in here lately
00:35.04TRS-80You trying to use widget? On Plasma?
00:36.08TRS-80I just tried that on mine and have no problem searching for stations. Where were you trying to do that?
00:36.11Zrenum, running systemsettings as sudo is probably not the best way to theme something...
00:36.19Zren*root
00:36.34TRS-80but Synaptic opens as root
00:36.55TRS-80that was exactly the problem. Or am I missing something? Is there some other way?
00:37.17Zrenoh I see, you ran it on purpose to edit the settings.
00:37.21TRS-80yes
00:37.29Zrenshoulda read everything
00:37.39Zrenthought you wanted system settings in white
00:38.06TRS-80no, problem was Synaptic was only thing clashing in white with everything else dark, and I do most of my work at night :)
00:38.34TRS-80I've got it looking nice like everything else now, REEEEEEE over lol
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00:39.00demmOriginCode: there are several weather applets, which one are you using? some can adjust which station you use
00:39.47TRS-80demm That's what I was trying to ask as well, as I could not reproduce problem. "works on my machine"
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00:53.35OriginCodedemm: The default KDE widget...
00:53.52OriginCodePlasma Widget...yeah...
00:54.18demmOriginCode: when you search for location, you don't get the choice of a few?
00:57.04TRS-80OriginCode Yeah I just double checked mine and it works.
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01:11.02OriginCodedemm: I'm living in China, but there's no Chinese weather station appeared...
01:13.13demmOriginCode: you need to type in a location to search
01:13.40demmseems wettercom covers China in the plasmoid
01:14.50demmOriginCode: you can also try https://store.kde.org/p/998912/ and https://store.kde.org/p/998917/
01:15.31OriginCodedemm: wettercom is not very sensitive
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01:15.46demmthen try one of the above 2
01:16.12OriginCodedemm: OK,thanks. I will try one.
01:17.05OriginCodedemm: I used Yahoo weather years ago on my iPad, I think it's good enough.
01:17.24demmOriginCode: that is what I use too :)
01:17.38OriginCode:D
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01:26.38mattdmhey everyone. I have a sort of weird problem I'm trying to figure out urgently for Fedora KDE... and none of the Fedora KDE people seem to be around to help. (except rdieter who is afk and doesn't have a magic solution anyway)
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01:26.45mattdmmaybe someone can think of something clever
01:27.04mattdmbasically: the fedora livecd install works by copying over the whole system except /home/liveusr
01:27.09mattdm/home/liveuser that is
01:27.39mattdmwe want to configure it so that some plasma applets don't run for that user
01:27.45mattdmbut run for everyone else
01:27.51mattdmhow can this be accomplished?
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01:33.30AtomBlau4861Aenjoyed using KDE Plasma + Arch for last two years, but ended up with problems due to baloo_file
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01:34.47AtomBlau4861Aat some time this process got into a regular habit of overheating the machine
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01:36.56AtomBlau4861Ais there a resource for finding out more about potential problems with baloo_file?
01:39.37mattdmwait rdieter -- the https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/f26/f/fedora-live-workstation.ks overwrites stuff in /usr
01:39.47mattdmhow is *that* working???
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03:05.01JZAhi how can I configure menu  of KDE
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04:53.22anugwhen i copy an image it actually copies the path to clipboard instead of actual image
04:53.39anugcannot paste image directly
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06:17.40lordievaderGood morning
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06:26.06anuglordievader, morning
06:26.18lordievaderHey anug, how are you?
06:26.55anuglordievader, good, how are you
06:27.24lordievaderDoing good here, got coffee :)
06:28.44anugWhy i copy a image file and paste in WhatsApp web it paste the file path instead of actual image
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06:47.29applecatis it possible to get finer control over increase/decrease backlight on a laptop? Say for instance, hold shift to get 1% change
06:48.22applecatI tried xbacklight (which is what I used to use) however I get "No outputs have backlight property" which I can't seem to fix despite making a new ln -s link and creating an entry in xorg.conf
06:49.35applecatI can set the backlight using qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/kde/Solid/PowerManagement/Actions/BrightnessControl org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.Actions.BrightnessControl.setBrightness
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06:51.59applecatI noticed that plasma can run scripts written in javascript, could someone give me an idea of how to convert  qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/kde/Solid/PowerManagement/Actions/BrightnessControl org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.Actions.BrightnessControl.setBrightness -100
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06:56.27thiagoapplecat: if the screen is off (brightness 0), then increasing by 10% will still leave it off
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06:57.41thiagoif you meant 10% of the max, then just get the current value and the mex, do some math, then setBrightness
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09:05.33ziltiSo, I created an S/MIME mail certificate with CACert and imported it into Kleopatra. But it isn't shown in KMail...
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09:28.59arkomWhat is th difference between kwin_x11 and kwin?
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09:35.22leszekkwin is the name of the project and kwin_x11 is the executable for kwin's x11 version
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09:36.08ntzhello
09:36.24ntzinstalled this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/kde5-wallet-password-integrati/
09:36.33ntzbut it does nothing o.O
09:37.12ntzit's enabled in FF and I have enabled in kde kwallet subsystem already storing pwds for several apps but well, seems it completely ignores ff
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09:40.10leszekntz: could be that e10 broke this addon. Try disabling e10 in firefox. Otherwise contact the author
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09:48.59leszekntz: quicktest here on ff nightly shows that it works as expected. Installed the addon logged in to a website I was previously never using ff to login hit the save button and voila it created a new entry in the wallet with the credentials stored in there
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10:19.18BluesKajHiyas all
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10:38.46ntzleszek: sorry, was noavail for a while ... what is please e10 ?
10:38.58ntzbtw, I have opensuse 42.2 and up-to-date ff
10:40.04leszeke10 is multiprocess support in firefox
10:40.09leszekintroduced with version 52
10:40.40ntzomg :D .. if I have to choose between kwallet integration and mp support I'm sticking with MP ... resolved then
10:40.51ntzthanks for your input !!!
10:40.53ntzleszek++
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10:41.58ntzleszek: just to make it complete - this is the only one semi-official extension providing kwallet integration, right ?
10:42.09leszekntz: though it works fine here as I said on my nightly and I have e10 activated
10:42.17ntzok
10:42.30leszekthere is another one but I guess thats for the older kde4libs version of kwallet
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10:57.57toskyntz: just one note, that extension is not official and not even semi-official (it is developed outside the KDE community)
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11:01.29jfmcarreira_heyy guys
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11:01.46jfmcarreira_which kde module controls battery? sometimes my battery is not detected by kde
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11:11.25toskyjfmcarreira_: the powerdevil component of Plasma (not KDE) uses the Solid library (part of Frameworks), which has various backends
11:11.54toskyjfmcarreira_: you most likely use the upower backend, so the question is: does upower report the correct information? (you can use the upower command to inspect it)
11:12.32jfmcarreira_tosky: it reports /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1
11:12.33toskyor is the applet simply hidden from time to time and does not show in the system tray (but you can access it from the "show hidden icons" button)?
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11:13.28jfmcarreira_tosky: it is there in system tray. but the icon just "no battery" like if it was removed?
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11:14.44toskyjfmcarreira_: is the BAT1 the correct one? I mean, when it is shown, is it BAT1 or BAT0?
11:15.12jfmcarreira_tosky: one sec let me try rebooting
11:15.19harklarkanyone else getting "network error" when trying to look for new plasma widgets? been that way the whole day
11:15.19toskyjfmcarreira_: also, do you see it from kinfocenter?
11:16.15toskyharklark: I can see it too
11:16.25jfmcarreira_tosky: it shows
11:16.38toskyharklark: it may be an issue on store.kde.org (which is under .kde.org, but not handled directly by KDE)
11:17.07toskyjfmcarreira_: and at the same time, not in the system tray? If you remove the applet and readd it?
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11:19.13harklarkguess I'll try again tomorrow
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11:22.30jfmcarreira_tosky: remove the applet in system tray settings?
11:22.48toskyjfmcarreira_: yes (it's not probably going to solve it, but...)
11:22.56toskyalso, did you restart the session as you mentioned?
11:23.05jfmcarreira_tosky: not yet
11:23.45toskyok
11:24.09jfmcarreira_tosky: how can i restart the applet?
11:24.39toskyjfmcarreira_: I think that if you remove it from the settings of the tray, it should do it, but not totally sure
11:25.27leszekyeah removing and readding it should do the job
11:26.32jfmcarreira_tosky: leszek: removing and adding system tray did the trick
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11:31.55Combined2857hi guy
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12:03.19Combined2857guys, when I type in i type in Greek and I try to stress a letter that can't be stressed (by stress I mean put this symbol ' over a character) my BIOS makes that loud bleep soud
12:03.21Combined2857sound*
12:03.23Combined2857why is that ?
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12:21.14DelvienI have installed a font (roboto medium mono) in ~/.fonts and then i tried /usr/share/fonts and konsole will not allow me to change the font to this, I only have 4 pre-installed options, how can I change this?
12:21.39DelvienNevermind... I just figured it out, lol
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13:33.34adam5isaliveHey  gents
13:35.42adam5isaliveI have a question that will shake the very foundations of your commitment to GNU
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13:36.55anughi. super key not opening application menu. im using manjaro kde 5.10
13:39.37anuganyine?
13:39.44anuganyone?
13:41.30toskyanug: did you change the shortcut? Does it work with a new user?
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13:43.19adam5isaliveIs there a way to keep games from being minimized when I click onto my second monitor? Mint 18.1 Plasma 5.8.5
13:44.23harklarkanug you can set the application menu shortcut as alt+f1 for the super key to open it
13:46.04anugharklark, but superkey alone launched application launcher before
13:46.46harklarkoh looks like he left
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13:49.07Tuxtorielharklark: I made a test, and for me, wether it is Alt+F1 or anything else, meta still works, so I don't think it's related.
13:49.45TuxtorielDoes anybody know where the config file setting that shortcut is?
13:50.08anugi got it worked
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13:51.46Tuxtorielok :·)
13:53.37Tuxtorielso apparently, setting it to Alt+F1 can make it work. Even though when I changed it to something else, it still worked. Maybe an update (logout-login) thing.
13:54.24harklarkI think another way to make it work is in your ~/.config/kwinrc
13:54.41harklark[ModifierOnlyShortcuts]
13:54.43harklarkMeta=
13:54.53harklarkwhere after = you put in whatever you want it to do
13:55.14harklarkmine for instance is: Meta=org.kde.lattedock,/Latte,org.kde.LatteDock,activateLauncherMenu
13:55.22harklarkto make it work with an application menu widget inside latte dock
13:56.15DelvienIs there a way to make chrome follow your KDE set fonts? I tried changing the setting in "gnome application style" but the fonts dont change (tabs, bookmarks on the browser)
13:57.13Tuxtorielharklark: that's exactly what I was looking for. Interesting. But do you have to create that section?
13:57.25TuxtorielI just have «CommandAllKey=Meta»
13:58.15toskyDelvien: chrome/chromium is a bit alien; is it at least configured to use the gtk style?
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13:58.39Delvientosky currently, yes
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14:00.57Delvientosky:  I really dont want to have to use firefox just to have the correct fonts in tabs/bookmarks
14:03.05toskyDelvien: I don't know much more; I know that some Plasma developers are chromium user (and developing an extension for the integration), you may try on #plasma (but beware that it is normally a developer channel)
14:03.26Tuxtorielharklark: so I can just create that «[ModifierOnlyShortcuts]» section, can I?
14:04.07Delvientosky: alrighty, thanks
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14:17.02Combined2857do you guys experience flickering when you change volume levels ?
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14:20.13anugCombined2857, nope
14:20.36Combined2857how can I fix it ?
14:21.16Combined2857When I change volume VLC video flickers, dolphin flickers, heck even konversation flickers
14:21.56anugi dont know.
14:22.01Combined2857It feels like selections flicker, e.g. if I have selected a folder and I change volume it flickers, but in VLC the whole video flickers
14:22.28toskysomething with compositing and the graphic driver maybe? I haven't seen it
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14:25.31Combined2857is there maybe a desktop effect I could disable
14:25.38Combined2857i tried many but didn't fix it
14:25.55Delvientosky: apparently there is no way.... :(
14:25.58Combined2857switched to opengl3, altogether disabled compositor, nothing
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14:28.04toskyCombined2857: I don't think it's a desktop effect; apart from playing with compositing (which is better if it is enabled) and switching its backend (opengl2/3/xrender), well
14:28.25toskyCombined2857: the other solution is check a live image of another or the same distribution with a newer graphic stack
14:28.42Combined2857tosky: i am in manjaro so I think thats the newest
14:32.38Combined2857is there a way to disable this popup when I change the volume levels ?
14:33.19Combined2857it seems like it causes the flickering only to the active window, for example vlc does not flicker if I have another window selected
14:38.19toskyCombined2857: did you try the settings of the volume applet?
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14:39.14Combined2857you can only disable the feedback not remove the actual popup
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14:45.48yacoob(reasking, because people are alive now :) Is there a way to define prefix-based keyboard shortcuts for kwin 5.10? prefix in a similar sense as screen or tmux
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14:57.46adam5isaliveIs there a way to keep games from being minimized when I click onto my second monitor? Mint 18.1 Plasma 5.8.5
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15:11.36jfmcarreira_heyyy guys
15:11.52jfmcarreira_is there any plasma module to control keyboard Fn functions?
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15:16.35yacoobtosky: sure, it's worth trying :)
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15:26.16harklarkTuxtoriel: I'm not sure. The solution I saw was specific to latte-dock and im not 100% certain what other things you can put there
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15:30.57IeuanHow do you log out from a command line?
15:31.00IeuanPlasma's crashed :-\
15:33.17toskyIeuan: and you can't re-run it?
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15:33.56IeuanWhat do I have to run to re-run it?
15:34.05Ieuanplasmashell?
15:34.27d42yes :^)
15:34.40IeuanCheers :)
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15:35.56IeuanAlthough, that hasn't fixed the problem, really
15:35.58IeuanI still have no panel, and can't right click on the background to create a new panel
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15:47.19dontknowdoes kde plasma work on 1080p monitor well?
15:48.43BluesKajdontknow, yup  I use a 42" monitor/TV
15:49.08dontknowthanks
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15:49.27dontknowi was wondering how it is like 20" monitor
15:49.32dontknowon*
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15:55.20IeuanFine
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15:57.24BluesKajdontknow, 1080p works fine on my 22"
15:57.42dontknowcool
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15:59.36IeuanThe one thing it doesn't seem to like, and I don't know if this is just my drivers or whatever, is multiple screens
15:59.55ZrenIeuan, Ctrl+Esc, is there 2 plasmashell instances?
16:00.15Ieuan(Although that's possibly my drivers, gnome or whatever might have the same problems but I've never cared to check)
16:00.17IeuanZren, hmm?
16:00.28IeuanOh, I've already used ctrl+alt+delete to log out
16:00.34Zrenah
16:00.37Zrennvm
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16:39.28adam5isaliveIs there a way to keep games from being minimized when I click onto my second monitor? Mint 18.1 Plasma 5.8.5
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16:51.39Delvienwhere is the config to not start kwin, but to start i3 instead?
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16:54.08oprypinadam5isalive, any particular games?
16:54.09LazyGnolladam5isalive: I'm not an expert but it might be related to how fullscreen mode works, but you can try either forcing rules via kwin settings or maybe play in borderless window mode
16:54.29oprypinLazyGnoll, everything uses borderless window mode these days
16:55.11LazyGnollwell then, I guess if games just minimize themselves if they lose focus then it should be enough to force kwin rules?
16:55.44oprypini dont know. all i know is SDL2 forces this behavior
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16:59.28oprypinmy solution: add to /etc/profile:  export SDL_VIDEO_MINIMIZE_ON_FOCUS_LOSS=0
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17:02.53LazyGnollDelvien: I think this option was removed due to Wayland support, but you can export KDEWM through ~/.config/plasma-workspace/env/* to use a different WM
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17:46.54adam5isaliveThe game I'm messing with right now is Minecraft
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18:07.53TheRoois there a way i could make the top left corner just like gnome, with a search panel? krunner would be ok too (though that'd fake it). i just miss GNOME's overview, sometimes :<(
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18:08.59TheRoothe application dashboard isnt like any of it
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18:18.23TheRooalso noticed a bug in the desktop grid, the windows disappear when dragging from one workspace to another, appear after leaving the mouse
18:18.34TheRoolike dropping them, they aopear again
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18:27.47DelvienLazyGnoll: Im sorry, i got DCd at work, and it cleared the path, can you repeat that to me?
18:27.58DelvienLazyGnoll: also, that doesnt get rid of the DE, just the wm right
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18:32.11LazyGnollDelvien: put a bash script that exports KDEWM set to your wm in ~/.config/plasma-workspace/env/ ; that shouldn't affect your DE, only WM in Plasma
18:32.30DelvienLazyGnoll: thank you
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21:28.09torstein_how can i disable update checker
21:28.35asturmwhat's that
21:30.08torstein_<system updater
21:30.34asturmthat doesn't sound KDE related
21:31.12torstein_well there's the KDE logo on the notifications from it
21:31.19toskymaybe the applet provided by muon, or plasma-pk-updates
21:31.20torstein_on Fedora
21:32.30torstein_I can safely remove plasma-pk-updates if I update my system manually?
21:32.53toskyyes
21:33.06asturmwe don't even have that packaged
21:34.32toskyit uses packagekit, so if there is no packagekit backend for emerge, it's probably useless
21:34.47asturmyeah
21:35.12asturmotherwise sure, it wouldn't be the first gui frontend to portage
21:35.38toskyuhm https://github.com/hughsie/PackageKit/tree/master/backends/portage
21:36.27WhoLordBucketshould  I use KDE-Neon over Kubuntu? Or vice-versa, if I am sort of familiar with linux at a beginner's level?
21:36.41asturmtosky: that looks a bit outdated
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21:37.03toskyasturm: did the interface provided by the system change a lot in the last years?
21:40.41asturmtosky: at least enough that other attempts at guis were broken, but I don't know how much of portage functions need to be exposed to that backend to be useful
21:41.03toskyI see
21:41.05asturmbut I wasn't even aware that thing existed, so maybe I'll have a look at it in a quiet hour
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