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| 01:41.20 | meattoad | How do I change between workspaces in plasma? |
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| 01:47.31 | Dreeso | Go to the desktop behavior settings under sys settings and add however many virtual desktops you want |
| 01:48.28 | Dreeso | forget what the default is but you can bind a shortcut to switching. Theres also a plasmoid for switching. |
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| 01:49.20 | meattoad | Cool, thanks |
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| 01:58.26 | GWM | Asking here as well, running latest KDE Neon, previews are not working in Dolphin; http://i.imgur.com/5g8mxf5.png 400kb wallpaper jpg put in standard photo folder as an example |
| 01:58.58 | GWM | Anyone got any clue? |
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| 03:45.06 | ps3_ | what is the minimum requirements to run kde-neon with kms enabled (with nomodeset) |
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| 06:49.26 | esaym153 | man, just upgraded to kde5 and it dumped all my application shortcuts. How do I add them back? Normaly would just right click on the application icon from the start menu and then there was a shortcut config menu in there... |
| 06:49.30 | esaym153 | now there is nothing.. |
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| 06:56.01 | esaym153 | nm I found it. In the shortcut config menu, go to global shortcuts and then add a new shortcut and it will prompt for which app to shortcut to |
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| 09:59.35 | TwistedFate | Hello, what's the best KDE distro right now? |
| 10:01.05 | tosky | the one that works for you |
| 10:03.53 | yeehi | KDE Webcam application? Kamoso seems like it is a defunct project. Also, Kamoso doesn't recognize webcam. Cheese is GNOME based. |
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| 10:05.44 | leszek | yeehi: works just fine kamoso I mean |
| 10:05.47 | yeehi | TwistedFate - you could try KDE Neon - it aims to provide the latest KDE features on a stable platform |
| 10:05.58 | leszek | we got several fixes in a few months ago aswell |
| 10:06.30 | yeehi | thanks leszek - what can be done to get the webcam recognized? It works on other applications |
| 10:06.31 | TwistedFate | yeehi, im downloading it now, been curious to see what new stuff "KDE 5" brings ;) |
| 10:07.10 | leszek | yeehi: first of all we need to get an error message. Usually webcams use the uvcvideo driver which is universal and should work just fine |
| 10:07.26 | leszek | yeehi: so starting kamoso from the terminal might already help to get an error message |
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| 10:39.17 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 10:57.49 | oprypin | hi. in kde 4 yakuake resets the keyboard shortcut to ctrl+shift+v every time i restart it. |
| 10:58.27 | oprypin | - for paste - and Ctrl+shift+c for copy |
| 10:58.57 | oprypin | so there is no way to stop ctrl+c from being such a fatal key combination |
| 10:59.23 | oprypin | can anything be done about it? |
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| 11:06.39 | oprypin | same is true for any terminal. including in Kate. is it really impossible to change the keyboard shortcut from that silly Ctrl+shift+c |
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| 11:20.01 | oprypin | everyone hates confusing the two entirely different actions associated to ctrl+c but it didn't occur to anyone that maybe it didn't have to be this way |
| 11:20.49 | ps3_ | is there a staticically linked version of ARK or ARK KDE Archiving tool |
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| 11:21.44 | leszek | oprypin: ctrl+c is the classic key for canceling out an application. It exists much longer than the shortcut for copying stuff. |
| 11:22.28 | oprypin | i get the concept. but i don't care what people did in 197p |
| 11:22.34 | oprypin | 1970 |
| 11:22.50 | oprypin | i want to remap it |
| 11:23.18 | leszek | ps3_: here is an appimage https://s3-eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/ds9-apps/index.html#!/ark-master-appimage%2F |
| 11:23.49 | ps3_ | can that also work from the command line aswell? |
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| 11:26.34 | leszek | ps3_: I am not sure what you mean |
| 11:27.23 | ps3_ | like if i do ark.appimmage --help |
| 11:27.29 | ps3_ | ark.appimage* |
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| 11:28.32 | leszek | oprypin: it sounds harder than it is. the tty itself is involed and is catching CTRL+C |
| 11:28.55 | leszek | ps3_: I think it should work |
| 11:29.14 | oprypin | leszek, tty cannot catch anything. it's all hardcored in konsolepart |
| 11:29.54 | leszek | oprypin: then change it |
| 11:30.04 | oprypin | i can remap ctrl+c in konsole itself, by the way. because it properly exposes that action |
| 11:30.19 | ps3_ | does the kde version of ark have more features than the app image (and same for normal ark)? |
| 11:30.27 | oprypin | i can't change hardcored stuff, that's the point |
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| 11:35.38 | ps3_ | ;-; i cant use it in command line https://bpaste.net/show/5fb6d00ec47d |
| 11:40.52 | ps3_ | is there a staticically linked version of ARK or ARK KDE Archiving tool (hopefully one that can be used from command like like ./ark --help) |
| 11:41.23 | leszek | oprypin: the source is open of course you change stuff |
| 11:42.12 | leszek | ps3_: the appimage is the same version not sure what you are trying to achieve |
| 11:43.14 | ps3_ | the app image gives me that https://bpaste.net/show/5fb6d00ec47d |
| 11:44.46 | leszek | ps3_: still not sure what you want to do |
| 11:44.56 | leszek | ark is a graphical application you need xorg to run it |
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| 11:46.08 | ps3_ | but its also a terminal application |
| 11:47.20 | tosky | ps3_: not exactly |
| 11:47.28 | tosky | ps3_: are you trying to run it outside Xorg? |
| 11:48.58 | ps3_ | i just want a statically linked ark binary |
| 11:49.19 | tosky | the appimage is what you look for |
| 11:49.27 | tosky | please answer the question |
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| 11:49.46 | ps3_ | i have Xorg |
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| 11:52.17 | tosky | it seems that there is a problem with that specific appimage; you can try to generate it on your own |
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| 14:49.01 | oleo | <oleo> hey all |
| 14:49.02 | oleo | <oleo> can anyone tell me why i got to always open the application settings and then play around with the input device settings (any setting temporarily changed will do) in order to get my Alt+< or Alt+shift+< (== Alt+>) keys working (as in emacs where it jumps to the end or the beginning of the buffer)? |
| 14:49.04 | oleo | <oleo> after temporary changes in the device settings the behaviour of those keys is restored, when i turn on and again off the key repeat setting for example |
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| 14:50.28 | annadane | hi, why is hexchat not appearing in my system tray? i set it to "minimize to tray" |
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| 15:14.12 | V7 | Hey all |
| 15:14.15 | V7 | I have an issue |
| 15:14.28 | V7 | Very big boot time |
| 15:14.46 | V7 | systemd-analyze blame -> http://termbin.com/sy2w |
| 15:14.55 | V7 | plot -> http://svgshare.com/i/2CY.svg |
| 15:15.25 | V7 | Actuall bot is about >1 min |
| 15:15.25 | V7 | boot * |
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| 15:18.51 | nolaan | Hi guys, what would it take to also integrate currency conversion in krunner??? |
| 15:19.34 | nolaan | I mean, specified by the user... |
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| 15:26.33 | annadane | hi, why is hexchat not appearing in my system tray? i set it to "minimize to tray" |
| 15:26.56 | annadane | plasma 5.8.7 |
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| 15:30.41 | BluesKaj | annadane, choose show in system tray settings if it's listed |
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| 15:31.30 | annadane | BluesKaj, "enable system tray icon" is checked |
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| 15:32.15 | V7 | So, can you help ? |
| 15:32.52 | BluesKaj | annadane, right click in the system tray, choose system tray settings in the popup |
| 15:34.21 | annadane | BluesKaj, yeah, i've been through all of those. i don't see an option for hexchat or anything similar |
| 15:34.23 | annadane | one sec, let me try something |
| 15:34.27 | annadane | i may need to close it and come back |
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| 15:41.02 | annadane | BluesKaj, no, still can't get it to work. the system tray settings may have an obscure name for it |
| 15:41.17 | annadane | but i've looked at the list and it doesn't seem to be that |
| 15:42.36 | BluesKaj | annadane, maybe because hexchat isn't a kde/plasma app..konversation shows up in the system tray settings/entries |
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| 15:43.39 | annadane | BluesKaj, it showed up in my tray before, though |
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| 15:44.49 | annadane | maybe debian broke something? i'm on testing |
| 15:45.14 | BluesKaj | annadane, buster ? |
| 15:45.23 | annadane | additionally, it should show up because it has an enable system tray icon |
| 15:45.31 | annadane | and yeah, buster |
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| 15:45.42 | annadane | err, enable system tray icon setting |
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| 15:47.21 | saptech | annadane, do you mean it should be in the tray on the right side of panel? |
| 15:48.03 | annadane | saptech, i'm not sure. it may indeed be seperate from the tray |
| 15:48.09 | annadane | that may be what i did the first time |
| 15:48.14 | annadane | i'm not sure how i'd do that now |
| 15:48.38 | annadane | OH |
| 15:48.38 | BluesKaj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:48.49 | annadane | i'm an idiot. i probably did click add to panel? one sec |
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| 15:49.28 | annadane | nope, that's not what i did |
| 15:50.25 | BluesKaj | debian is slow to adopt and and slow to be supported |
| 15:51.41 | annadane | yeah, fine, except this worked fine in both stretch and buster |
| 15:51.41 | annadane | i recently did a fresh install of stretch and moved to buster and ever since then it "hasn't been working", assuming i'm not overlooking something incredibly obvious |
| 15:53.11 | TheRoo | why are there so many coredumps of plasma stuff? i've also seen systemsettings crashing sometimes, here's a screenshot: http://ix.io/yq3 |
| 15:53.11 | saptech | so is Testing name Buster? |
| 15:53.18 | TheRoo | I'm on Gentoo stable |
| 15:53.18 | BluesKaj | annadane, I can't think of anything either, don't think it's obvious tho |
| 15:53.39 | TheRoo | is it the same for other people as well? |
| 15:53.39 | pepo_ | TheRoo, that's not a crash backtrace |
| 15:54.07 | TheRoo | pepo_: yes, those are the coredumps various stuff has dumped in a single day |
| 15:54.08 | TheRoo | that doesnt look quite good |
| 15:54.34 | annadane | relatedly, how do you undo "add as launcher" from application launcher |
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| 15:55.23 | pepo_ | yes to what? To answer your question about why it crashes, we need the backtrace. |
| 15:56.05 | TheRoo | how do i get one |
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| 15:56.30 | BluesKaj | oops |
| 15:56.40 | pepo_ | if you still have the coredump file, you can use 'gdb' to get the backtrace. |
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| 15:58.06 | BluesKaj | annadane, got quicklaunch installed? If so right click there, add launcher |
| 15:58.48 | annadane | BluesKaj, quicklaunch doesn't show up in my alt + f2 search thing |
| 15:58.48 | annadane | i presume it's not installed |
| 15:59.12 | BluesKaj | it's a panel widget |
| 15:59.43 | annadane | oh. okay |
| 16:00.54 | annadane | BluesKaj, this is just to add to quicklaunch |
| 16:01.11 | annadane | how do you remove it, assuming "add as launcher" added it to quicklaunch |
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| 16:03.29 | BluesKaj | right click in quicklaunch, "remove this quicklaunch" |
| 16:04.10 | annadane | no option for that. |
| 16:04.10 | BluesKaj | or to remove the icon/app remove this launcher |
| 16:04.58 | annadane | i'm referring to my application launcher here. i accidentally clicked "run as launcher" below the options "add to desktop" and "add to panel" and now i don't see how to undo that |
| 16:05.23 | annadane | sorry, "add as launcher" not run as |
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| 16:07.00 | annadane | and by application launcher i mean my "start menu" |
| 16:08.15 | annadane | may have found my answer |
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| 16:10.14 | annadane | so apparently add as launcher is also supposed to add it to the panel much like "add to panel"? and the option hasn't been reversed - aka every other program in the application menu has an "add as launcher" option except hexchat - so presumably the system thinks the icon is there? |
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| 16:10.55 | annadane | ugh. one second. still trying to figure this out |
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| 16:12.22 | annadane | i'm so confused, this is maddening |
| 16:12.41 | annadane | it feels like it's "in the tray" except it's not physically there |
| 16:12.48 | BluesKaj | annadane, another method is to drag the aps from the menu into the launcher, it's a bit tricky tho , you may enf up with it as an icon in the panel instead |
| 16:13.15 | BluesKaj | end up |
| 16:13.15 | annadane | i just want to figure out what "add as launcher" did |
| 16:13.15 | annadane | i can't find a straight answer on this |
| 16:13.32 | annadane | and i've looked in quicklaunch, there's nothing there, i don't think it's quicklaunch related |
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| 16:15.45 | BluesKaj | could be OS rekated , I don't see "add as launcher" anywhaer |
| 16:15.56 | BluesKaj | anywhere |
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| 16:18.31 | annadane | i'm just going to ask in a forum |
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| 16:22.57 | annadane | aha |
| 16:23.08 | annadane | when i "add as launcher" kate, it does appear in the taskbar |
| 16:23.21 | annadane | presumably because it's a program you can do that with |
| 16:23.55 | annadane | but it doesn't work with hexchat, and i can't find it in my taskbar to remove it, and the menu in application launcher doesn't allow me to reverse it either |
| 16:25.11 | annadane | this implies that it's "there" but it isn't |
| 16:28.35 | saptech | I wonder what version of hexchat he's using |
| 16:29.07 | saptech | it's working fine for me |
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| 16:30.46 | annadane | okay, so it was in the taskbar. it was just hidden for whatever reason. that issue's been solved. sorry for spamming the channel and getting annoyed |
| 16:31.23 | annadane | now i just need to get back to my first problem, which is adding hexchat to the system tray. i can "add to panel", but that's just a launcher, not an icon of the instance which is running |
| 16:31.27 | saptech | I think the more you have it does hide some |
| 16:32.09 | annadane | wait, what the actual fuck. now it's magically there. |
| 16:32.18 | annadane | i... don't understand at all |
| 16:32.21 | saptech | what ver of hexchat you're using? mine is 2.12.4 |
| 16:32.24 | saptech | heh |
| 16:32.32 | annadane | 2.12.4, yeah |
| 16:32.56 | annadane | so, uh... issue solved??? i still don't understand but don't look a gift horse |
| 16:33.08 | saptech | kde is weird to use for me, I'm testing it for Mageia 6, soon to be release |
| 16:33.25 | saptech | I normally don't use it |
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| 16:34.22 | annadane | i guess my "solution" was to reboot my computer |
| 16:34.43 | saptech | heh, you shouldn't have to reboot for that, but okay |
| 16:34.58 | annadane | and "hexchat" does now appear in my system tray list thing |
| 16:35.24 | annadane | yeah, i know i shouldn't have to >_> |
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| 22:46.48 | BrokenCog | anyone good with KDE / display issues? or, maybe it's a kernel issue ... I still can't tell. When I plug in an external HDMI monitor the monitor comes up with the proper second screen display, but the KDE "Accept Configuration Y/N" dialogue is translucent as though another window has focus. Normally pressing space/enter/y actiavtes the "Yes" button ... but I can't do anything with it - can't move it |
| 22:46.50 | BrokenCog | even. Opening another window fails as well. Any ideas what this might be? I did do : rm -rf ~/.kde ... maybe should do that with ~/.config but haven't yet. |
| 22:46.55 | BrokenCog | screen: http://imgur.com/i5LBlBV |
| 22:48.02 | tosky | please never remove ~/.config (it would nuke the configuration of a lot of programs, even not coming from KDE) |
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| 22:48.35 | tosky | you may at most clean the content of ~/.local/share/kscreen/ and retry |
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| 22:55.32 | BrokenCog | I only have a ~/.kde/share/apps/kscreen/ |
| 22:55.32 | BrokenCog | which is obviously new. |
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