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| 02:58.56 | ElectricPrism | I'm looking for a task switcher like Expose in Gnome where I can see all the windows fullscreen at once in KDE 5.10 -- can anyone give me a lead |
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| 03:19.42 | thiago | Ctrl+Shift+F12 |
| 03:20.02 | thiago | no, Ctrl+F10 |
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| 04:03.28 | twentyfour | hi, I was wondering if it was possible to move windows to the widget layer (kde plasma still do widgets?) so I can have windows at the top of my stack that I can click through to others underneath |
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| 05:49.27 | oprypin | twentyfour, try setting window type to Desktop in kwin window rules |
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| 05:50.13 | oprypin | but then the desktop itself may fight for being on top of them. so then try adding some always on top/bottom rules |
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| 05:52.09 | oprypin | in fact, forget about the window type |
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| 07:42.13 | zetax | is search in dolphin broken? searching "from here" shows files from all over the place |
| 07:44.10 | rindolf | zetax: let me see |
| 07:44.51 | twentyfour | oprypin, I've been using always on top, but the behaviour I'm trying to get it to display the windows (at say 70% opacity) while permitting clickthrough. I thought this could be achieved by moving them to the widget layer, but I'm not sure you can set that to be displayed constantly. |
| 07:46.51 | rindolf | zetax: works fine here - dolphin-16.12.3-1.mga6 |
| 07:47.31 | ps3 | how do i uncomment a line in kate |
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| 08:02.01 | BeyondStupid | hello, I have an issue that I can not find solution for: there is audio coming from chromium, but there is nothing from kde. Tried both backends, gstreamer and vlc. alsamixer shows a proper audio device and I can adjust volumes. I do not have pulsaudio installed. Only alsa. the kde, depending on what backend I use displays default device (if I use phonon-gstreamer) and default + couple of broadwell-rt286 devices. speaker-test -twav -c2 also works. |
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| 09:15.00 | Arigead | Just installed a KDE based distro for the first time and there's a bit of an adjustment. Can I just ask does the windows key do nothing? |
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| 09:26.12 | asturm | Arigead: it usually opens the k menu |
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| 10:06.47 | preview | could anyone help me set up kwallet unlock on login? I've done some searching but can't seem to find a definitive solution. |
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| 10:22.54 | harklark | preview: I followed the instructions from the arch wiki here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE_Wallet#Unlock_KDE_Wallet_automatically_on_login |
| 10:23.40 | harklark | Its possible if your kwallet pass is the same as your login pass |
| 10:24.40 | harklark | the package you need to download might have a different name than kwallet-pam. for instance in opensuse it was pam_kwallet |
| 10:27.38 | Arigead | asturm, sorry got distracted. It might usually open the K menu but here it doesn't do anything and I have to use the pointer and click. Most distressing |
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| 10:42.22 | asturm | Arigead: what plasma version is that? |
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| 10:48.51 | preview | to anyone following this issue, I have followed the linked instructions, and it doesn't help. |
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| 11:10.52 | Arigead | asturm, on an adventure to find out. Can't set it in system settings. Off the the Internet to see how you find out |
| 11:11.51 | Arigead | got it plasmashell --version = 5.5.5 |
| 11:13.07 | asturm | Arigead: that is ancient |
| 11:13.41 | asturm | and indeed it did not work back then without ksuperkey, a helper application |
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| 11:49.13 | asturm | Arigead: what kind of kde-based distro is still shipping 5.5.5? |
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| 12:22.29 | Arigead | asturm, this is an Ubuntu thing. kubuntu is it? Hold on I try to get info... 16.04.2 LTS may I should have grabbed a 17.04 |
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| 12:57.13 | asturm | Arigead: no one should be using 5.5.5 right now |
| 12:57.37 | asturm | Arigead: is your system up to date? |
| 12:58.11 | asturm | maybe the only choice they have for the LTS is using their backports repo - iirc that would give you Plasma 5.8.6 |
| 12:58.23 | asturm | (and that is 2 major versions behind already) |
| 12:58.48 | Arigead | asturm, Installed it yesterday so it should have updated after install but I'll check |
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| 13:00.13 | Arigead | Yes it's up to date |
| 13:01.31 | asturm | Arigead: -> backports repo then |
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| 13:07.38 | Arigead | asturm, I'll have a look at that, or perhaps move to 17.04 |
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| 14:14.42 | tneo | hello, I installed online accounts, but there is no owncloud option (while the description says it should be there). Also the Skype option state it needs telepathy-haze, but that is already installed. Can somebody advice? |
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| 17:18.48 | Introoter | I accidently removed my Trash thingy on desktop, ik i can add a widget but how do i get that trash.desktop file back |
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| 17:31.25 | Introoter | nvm, i copied over the desktop file from somewhere on the internet. |
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| 18:01.05 | Introoter | How do i get back the file copy dialog in dolphin, instead of the progress being shown on the task manager and notifications? |
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| 18:02.11 | oprypin | destroy support for integration i guess |
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| 18:06.48 | Yamakaja | Help D: I machine just had a weird hickup (Xorg detected stack smashing and went suicidal). Since that sddm wont get past the enter password stage (When i enter my password everything just freezes). But if i go into a terminal and kill xorg + sddm helper, sddm goes back into a working state where i can enter a password. Any ideas what could be caus |
| 18:06.48 | Yamakaja | ing this / how i could fix that issue? |
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| 18:09.50 | oprypin | (export $(dbus-launch) && dolphin) |
| 18:10.11 | Yamakaja | huh? |
| 18:10.25 | Yamakaja | Was that a response to my question? |
| 18:10.48 | oprypin | that's for the previous person. btw i dont have scrollback so if you culd ping them that would be nice |
| 18:11.16 | Yamakaja | I just joined ^^ |
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| 18:11.56 | oprypin | Introoter, |
| 18:11.59 | oprypin | hm gotta also take care of killing that dbus-daemon |
| 18:12.30 | tneo | hello, I installed online accounts, but there is no owncloud option (while the description says it should be there). Also the Skype option state it needs telepathy-haze, but that is already installed. Can somebody advice? |
| 18:16.23 | Introoter | oprypin: what!? |
| 18:16.27 | oprypin | Yamakaja, ask your distro how to view logs |
| 18:16.35 | Introoter | \killing dbus for that is bizarre |
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| 18:16.44 | oprypin | Introoter, what i said. copy dialog is undesired fallback behavior |
| 18:16.53 | Yamakaja | Well, logs don't show anything interesting :/ |
| 18:16.57 | Yamakaja | (I'm on arch) |
| 18:17.48 | Yamakaja | At least the logs of sddm. And i can't get to the xorg ones (0.o) |
| 18:17.48 | oprypin | i think they'd be more knowledgable to deal with this anyway |
| 18:17.48 | Introoter | oprypin: i managed to do it by disabling show progress on task manager and disabling notification to track it, and the logged in again. |
| 18:17.48 | Introoter | Yamakaja: you use do `journalctl -u sddm.service` for systemd. |
| 18:17.53 | Introoter | -do |
| 18:18.18 | Introoter | oprypin: also fyi, if i kill dbus, half of my system breaks, goes down, or bad things happen. |
| 18:18.40 | oprypin | Introoter, no i didnt tell you to kill dbus |
| 18:18.49 | oprypin | (export $(dbus-launch) && dolphin) to destroy integration but then you get a lingering dbus-daemon - best to kill that one |
| 18:19.04 | Yamakaja | Introoter no errors |
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| 18:19.32 | Introoter | this one worked, so i'll keep away from the hack. |
| 18:19.42 | Introoter | but thanks, i see what causes this. |
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| 18:32.43 | einveru | i have a GTK application running and it does not obey Activities. Is this normal, and if so, any workaround? |
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| 18:37.50 | crazy | Yamakaja: are you using BFQ io scheduler ? |
| 18:38.11 | Yamakaja | Uh, how do i figure it out? ;) |
| 18:40.30 | crazy | Yamakaja: do a cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler |
| 18:41.21 | crazy | or whatever your hdd is called |
| 18:42.01 | Yamakaja | cfq |
| 18:42.31 | crazy | then is something different |
| 18:43.44 | crazy | Yamakaja: do a sudo journalctl -b -o cat .. maybe you see some errors in the log .. maybe something else causing the issues and X crashes or something |
| 18:44.00 | Yamakaja | X doesn'T crash, it freezes :/ |
| 18:45.46 | crazy | well also see X log /var/log/Xorg.0.log ( but not sure on arch ) |
| 18:46.41 | crazy | Yamakaja: also check ~/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log too :) |
| 18:48.19 | Yamakaja | Aha! |
| 18:48.35 | Yamakaja | sddm xorg session log sais: "Couldn't execute the configuration file." |
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| 18:59.11 | Introoter | I get no menu to format removable drives |
| 18:59.13 | Introoter | in dolphin |
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| 19:03.58 | crazy | Yamakaja: so you have something wrong in your configs .. |
| 19:04.17 | Yamakaja | Yeah ... but why would that happen all of the sudden? I didn't change anything (manually) |
| 19:04.30 | Yamakaja | Ie, i don't know if some random tool messed with them |
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| 19:06.29 | Yamakaja | crazy, which configuration files would be the bad ones? |
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| 19:13.11 | Introoter | Is there a way to get a right click menu on removable drives so that i can format them on the go? |
| 19:13.23 | Introoter | I am using partitionmanager rn |
| 19:14.06 | Yamakaja | Command line? :D |
| 19:14.15 | Introoter | no, i want it there, if possible. |
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| 19:20.52 | mike-zal | rarely who needs quick and mass access to formating of any removable drive so I don't think it's possible yet ;P |
| 19:21.59 | mike-zal | kde partition manager and you're good to go with few drives. do you have few dozens of them? and even so, looking for such feature will take more time then formating those drives |
| 19:22.22 | asturm | mike-zal: photographers |
| 19:22.44 | asturm | and their digital operators |
| 19:22.51 | mike-zal | hmm... that sounds reasonble... |
| 19:23.41 | mike-zal | in such case, is software for fotographers not having such feature? what about digicam? |
| 19:24.23 | mike-zal | or darktable? I'm just fishing. maybe they have some menu for quick formatting somewhere? |
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| 19:38.47 | oldlaptop | asturm: for what it's worth, I would think of that as a perfect use case for scripting, not telling a monkey to click these menus over and over |
| 19:40.01 | oldlaptop | (double click this icon, enter root password, monkey swaps memory cards as instructed until they're all formatted) |
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| 21:29.16 | Arthur_ | Hi all, |
| 21:30.02 | Arthur_ | I've a quick question that might seen silly, though I'm just starting to study/understand KDE policies. Some commits have related bugs, i.e. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277464 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205126 |
| 21:30.33 | Arthur_ | what's the definition of a related bug in a commit log message? |
| 21:30.57 | Arthur_ | I looked at commit policies (https://community.kde.org/Policies/Commit_Policy), though I couldn't find any info about it |
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| 21:34.39 | oprypin | Arthur_, seems obvious... a related bug is a bug that is related, you know |
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| 21:34.59 | oprypin | if the commit fixes the bug would be the primary case |
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| 21:37.15 | Arthur_ | Thanks oprypin, I was in doubt just because they were not marked as duplicates. That basically means that a single commit can address different bugs, right? |
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| 21:51.48 | oprypin | Arthur_, yeah generally it can go 1:n and n:1 (dont know what this particular system allows though) |
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| 21:58.33 | Arthur_ | nice, thanks once again oprypin |
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| 22:08.58 | pedahzur | What is the preferred app for playing CDs these days? I'm trying KSCD (1.5) and it's not working right. It will only play one track. If I try to bring up the list and play the next track, it will finish that, then go back to the start of the CD. Looping controls having made any difference. Suggestions? |
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| 22:24.38 | oprypin | pedahzur, rip 'em, then play |
| 22:26.23 | pedahzur | oprypin: I've thought about it. :) |
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