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| 00:47.11 | kishore96_ | Solus has KDE stuff packaged? 0.0 |
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| 02:18.48 | interceptor-209 | Hi Guys, Ive started to learn how to operate the, "Cent OS" Linux Distro, and I require some help here in getting started with it. => I installed Cent OS 7 Minimal On My Machine => As root user I ran the following command in CLI: yum - y groups install "KDE Plasma Workplaces" => CLI then said installation COMPLETED = I then ran a command in CLI: echo "exec startkde" >> ~/.xinitrc => I then ran a command in CLI: startx |
| 02:18.50 | interceptor-209 | => Then in CLI I got this message on the screen: xauth: file /root/.serverauth.2468 does not exist => Can any one suggest on how I can get, "KDE GUI" started on my new Cent OS7 Minimal Installation |
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| 02:24.03 | interceptor-209 | => Then in CLI I got this message on the screen: xauth: file /root/.serverauth.2468 does not exist => Can any one suggest on how I can get, "KDE GUI" started on my new Cent OS7 Minimal Installation |
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| 06:16.50 | lordievader | Good morning |
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| 08:40.37 | shtrb | Does anyone have an idea about the the usage collection feature in KMail and if that exist also in other projects ? |
| 08:41.15 | shtrb | I'm talking about the recent KMail survy , which mentioned that KMail may start collecting usage data |
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| 08:59.52 | JyZyXEL | whaaaat |
| 09:00.03 | shtrb | have you seen the survy ? |
| 09:00.13 | JyZyXEL | i have not |
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| 09:01.24 | shtrb | https://survey.kde.org/index.php/852475 |
| 09:02.23 | shtrb | "In the future we want to collect usage data about KMail. We want to use this data to improve KMail and will keep all collected data 100% anonymous. Users can |
| 09:02.24 | shtrb | decide themselves if they want to participate in this and will be able to review the data before they are sent" |
| 09:02.41 | JyZyXEL | :DDD |
| 09:03.16 | shtrb | What ? |
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| 09:04.29 | shtrb | Judging from baloo that "decision" may be hidden in some conf so you will not be aware of that action being done |
| 09:04.42 | asturm | shtrb: pure speculation |
| 09:05.16 | asturm | and I don't get the baloo reference in that context |
| 09:08.49 | shtrb | astrum , when baloo was introduced it was default on , and to disable it you had to update a configuration (later they have added an "easy" option to not index some folders) |
| 09:09.22 | asturm | and that does relate to usage collection how? zilch |
| 09:09.54 | shtrb | It talk about the approach (default on vs off) and how easy to disable it |
| 09:10.07 | asturm | if baloo should be on or off by default is a philosophical question |
| 09:10.09 | shtrb | even now the survy have two options - default on and default offf |
| 09:10.40 | shtrb | yes, but in the case of baloo it index all by default (which is a big no-no in office envoirment ) |
| 09:11.03 | asturm | all home yes |
| 09:11.14 | asturm | again, completely offtopic to usage statistics |
| 09:11.39 | shtrb | the current option they ask about in the survy are default on or default off (for KMail ) |
| 09:11.51 | asturm | so... |
| 09:12.05 | asturm | do you have an idea about a third option? |
| 09:12.18 | shtrb | Not to add it in the first palce |
| 09:12.24 | shtrb | *place |
| 09:12.32 | asturm | because you don't trust KDE? |
| 09:12.47 | asturm | Mozilla asks the same question |
| 09:12.48 | shtrb | if a person whish to participate he can install a third party app for that |
| 09:13.23 | shtrb | astrum , and that is why group policy and packages had been made to nuke that shit up |
| 09:13.55 | shtrb | FF telemtry is worse (because it is hidden so deep from the user) |
| 09:15.26 | shtrb | asturm , it's not about trusting this or other dev, indexing or data collection put a user in bad situation when she may have legal consensuses |
| 09:15.45 | asturm | shtrb: then discuss on the mailing list |
| 09:15.56 | asturm | you've read the pretext to the survey? |
| 09:16.00 | shtrb | yes |
| 09:16.08 | shtrb | assuming we are talking about the same pretext |
| 09:16.51 | asturm | shtrb: if it is default off I don't see your point |
| 09:17.22 | shtrb | it doesn't say now if it's default off - just that they ask what should be the option |
| 09:17.23 | asturm | a separate package likely won't have the same possibilities |
| 09:17.30 | asturm | shtrb: so discuss |
| 09:17.44 | asturm | I doubt the majority would vote for yes |
| 09:18.21 | asturm | and at a minimum, I'll expect a build switch |
| 09:18.58 | shtrb | I had the same belief when baloo was shipped first |
| 09:19.16 | asturm | there was no survey with baloo |
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| 09:19.27 | shtrb | correct |
| 09:19.45 | asturm | and they are completely different devs |
| 09:26.50 | shtrb | it would be really interesting to see extradition request for dev or IT personal in case legal authorities learn about it and wish to fuck some competition |
| 09:27.30 | asturm | erm... |
| 09:27.51 | shtrb | yes , if data pass a border it's a crimminal offense (if data is private ) |
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| 09:28.09 | asturm | anonymous data is anonymous |
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| 09:28.47 | asturm | if the reviewed data does reveal private information obviously that would need a fix |
| 09:28.58 | asturm | but all of this is completely hypothetical |
| 09:29.03 | asturm | because it does not exist |
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| 09:34.05 | shtrb | sorry wpa_supplicant died |
| 09:34.30 | shtrb | was there anything after atrum's ern ... ? |
| 09:35.12 | linex | Will Konqueror get the file management extension back in the future ? |
| 09:35.38 | linex | Been using it for so many years. Dolphin don't feel the same. |
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| 09:42.40 | shtrb | linex , you can't use konqueror for file mangment ? |
| 09:43.52 | linex | No more side panel |
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| 09:45.40 | linex | I was told before that the code is not ther anymore. Something about and KF4 or KF5. I don't know. |
| 09:45.52 | shtrb | KF5 :) |
| 09:46.28 | linex | shtrb: you have any idea ? |
| 09:47.15 | shtrb | trinity :D |
| 09:47.33 | shtrb | but maybe you could pin an old version (if you need that much) |
| 09:51.11 | linex | "pin an old version", haha ok |
| 09:51.53 | shtrb | the option is for you to bring the needed feature back |
| 09:53.28 | shtrb | *the other option |
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| 10:18.08 | universalpackage | why do i get alot of application lag even if i log in to an empry session |
| 10:19.51 | shtrb | empty session as in a new one ? |
| 10:20.45 | universalpackage | yes |
| 10:21.22 | shtrb | top give any usefull data ? |
| 10:22.12 | universalpackage | top - 20:21:49 up 30 min, 3 users, load average: 1.34, 2.04, 3.11 |
| 10:22.13 | universalpackage | Tasks: 137 total, 2 running, 135 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie |
| 10:22.15 | universalpackage | pu0 : 2.0/2.0 4[|| ] |
| 10:22.16 | universalpackage | pu1 : 1.3/0.7 2[| ] |
| 10:22.18 | universalpackage | GiB Mem : 20.2/3.491 [ ] |
| 10:22.19 | universalpackage | GiB Swap: 0.0/7.680 [ |
| 10:22.25 | shtrb | facepalm |
| 10:22.47 | shtrb | sorry , I should have been clear , never paste you result here and watch what takes the most |
| 10:22.56 | shtrb | just use a paste site |
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| 10:26.21 | universalpackage | apparantly /usr/bin/baloo_file is tsking uo 256GB VIRT |
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| 10:27.22 | universalpackage | up* |
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| 10:29.51 | cousin_luigi | Greetings. |
| 10:30.20 | cousin_luigi | For some reason search from dolphin doesn't seem to work. How can I check if everything is alright with baloo? |
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| 10:54.54 | shtrb | universalpackage , it's the indexing issue I mentioned before , disable it if you don't likw it |
| 10:55.47 | shtrb | it can be it just mapped a big file (DB ? ) which can cause a big virt section |
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| 10:56.02 | LazyGnoll | cousin_luigi: try baloosearch in terminal |
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| 10:57.39 | cousin_luigi | LazyGnoll: Looks like the folder I want is not indexed. |
| 10:57.44 | cousin_luigi | Other ones work though. |
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| 10:58.51 | shtrb | universalpackage, but a big virt is probably not that of an issue |
| 10:59.28 | universalpackage | ok |
| 11:00.00 | shtrb | you can disable baloo for a while (search will not work) to see if it's the reason for you issues |
| 11:00.03 | shtrb | balooctl stop |
| 11:00.24 | universalpackage | ok |
| 11:00.44 | shtrb | or disable to make it "permanent" between logins |
| 11:00.53 | universalpackage | ok |
| 11:01.16 | universalpackage | will the effects be immediate once stopped? |
| 11:02.49 | LazyGnoll | cousin_luigi: is it a simple folder or something unusual (e.g. a bind mount)? |
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| 11:09.20 | cousin_luigi | LazyGnoll: The former. |
| 11:09.36 | cousin_luigi | Will have to enable it, I suppose. |
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| 11:14.45 | shtrb | universalpackage , it should be better after stopping it (if that is the reason) |
| 11:14.54 | shtrb | assuming it actually unload everything |
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| 13:19.45 | cousin_luigi | Is it possible to set the font size for the tray clock? |
| 13:19.54 | cousin_luigi | Without moving the panel, that is. |
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| 13:47.33 | kishore96 | cousin_luigi: Use the 'event calendar' plasmoid. That gives you many more options, include ability to set font and font size. |
| 13:47.56 | kishore96 | It should be in the 'get new stuff' thingy. |
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| 14:20.52 | sneep | 16:03 < sneep> My kwin_x11 sometimes fails in the following way: first windows will flicker a bit, then (much later) windows aren't updated until you focus a different window and then back, and after a while the whole screen freezes and just the mouse pointer moves. You can switch to the console and do DISPLAY=:0 kwin_x11 --replace to fix it, but does anyone know if this is a known issue? <-- No more problems a |
| 14:20.58 | sneep | fter selecting OpenGL 3.1 in System Settings > Display and Monitor > Compositor |
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| 17:09.18 | buovjaga | Sho_: re: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2017q3/003797.html did you notice reply tags are in IRC v3? And edits/deletes are in progress? |
| 17:10.02 | Sho_ | buovjaga: yeah |
| 17:10.09 | buovjaga | ok :) |
| 17:10.21 | buovjaga | I only learned it a couple of days ago |
| 17:10.41 | Sho_ | but the most interesting thing is imho the chathistory batch |
| 17:11.20 | shtrb | you can edit old posts in irc ? |
| 17:11.26 | shtrb | *comments |
| 17:12.33 | buovjaga | there are actually two proposals https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/pull/304 |
| 17:13.00 | buovjaga | (last comment from DanielOaks) |
| 17:13.37 | shtrb | That sound an amazing feature, rendering all what I know obsolete and wrong but amazing |
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| 17:14.59 | buovjaga | here is the reply tag for reference: http://ircv3.net/specs/client-tags/reply.html |
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| 17:36.30 | shtrb | Does anyone remember what need to be done in KMail to reply to a message in a mailing list when you missed the original message ? (there was the RE: subject and something more to make marc attach my reply in the mailing list) ? |
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| 18:35.17 | s3031 | hello |
| 18:35.51 | s3031 | removable devices widget doesn't show dvd volume label |
| 18:36.04 | s3031 | but "dd if=/dev/sr0 bs=1 skip=32808 count=32" shows me correct volume label |
| 18:36.31 | s3031 | i tried 5 diff dvd's and result is the same. removable devices shows DVDVIDEO as volume label |
| 18:36.37 | s3031 | how i can fix that? |
| 18:36.53 | shtrb | close dolphin , and do eject from the UI |
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| 18:56.53 | s3031 | so this widget is somehow connected with dolphin which i don't use |
| 18:58.05 | s3031 | and when i again put that dvd in i get again same result...hm |
| 18:58.09 | s3031 | yes i am stupid |
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| 21:34.08 | Oct2pus | amosbird: yeah |
| 21:34.10 | Oct2pus | whats up |
| 21:34.30 | amosbird | Oct2pus: um, does it have problems? |
| 21:36.10 | Oct2pus | no, its a bit annoying to set up |
| 21:36.18 | Oct2pus | disable your compositor before swapping |
| 21:38.27 | Oct2pus | then you go into .config/plasma-workspace/env and make a file/edit a file called wm.sh |
| 21:39.57 | Oct2pus | https://github.com/oct2pus/dotfiles/ heres my dotfiles |
| 21:40.02 | Oct2pus | i dont really have many in there |
| 21:40.33 | Oct2pus | you'll want i3 to kill a bunch of plasma processes |
| 21:41.14 | Oct2pus | i stole a lot of this stuff from https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/64mihc/i3_kde_plasma_a_match_made_in_heaven/ |
| 21:41.29 | Oct2pus | so check out their dotfiles if you want a bit more explaination and less cut/pasty shit |
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| 21:42.58 | Oct2pus | after that if you want to use a different wm just change export KDEWM=/usr/bin/i3 to anything else |
| 21:45.17 | Oct2pus | once its working i'd disable any problematic keybindings, i cant think of which ones off the top of my head |
| 21:45.47 | Oct2pus | anything thats conflicting, i think the session swapper on kde is problematic |
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| 22:00.57 | amosbird | ok, thanks! |
| 22:10.16 | Oct2pus | no problem, glad i could help. its a cool combo ^^ |
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| 23:30.56 | Oct2pus | is kmail worth using yet? |
| 23:33.46 | valorie | ? |
| 23:33.57 | valorie | some people have been using it happily for years |
| 23:34.20 | valorie | try it out and see if it works for you |
| 23:34.40 | valorie | can't be fussed to set up a real mail client again |
| 23:35.25 | Oct2pus | apparently its being replaced by kube? |
| 23:35.39 | Oct2pus | if youre not having problems i dont do anything more complex than add attachments to my emails |
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| 23:35.57 | Oct2pus | i just wanna minimize the amount of gtk applications i use |
| 23:36.59 | thiago | has been using kmail for over 15 years |
| 23:37.26 | Oct2pus | all i see is nightmare stories and breakages on the subreddit |
| 23:37.49 | Oct2pus | so ive just been avoiding it since thundermail "just works"⢠|
| 23:38.40 | valorie | kube is new, and I'm not sure it can be seen as a replacement |
| 23:38.56 | valorie | Oct2pus: well, of course |
| 23:39.11 | valorie | nobody writes to reddit about how their email client Just Works |
| 23:39.19 | oprypin | I'm of the opinion that desktop email clients can never reach the power that you get when processing the mail right on the mail server |
| 23:39.30 | valorie | or files rapturous bug reports |
| 23:39.49 | valorie | there is always mutt |
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| 23:41.26 | Oct2pus | im gonna check out kube, if its too unusuable then ill try kmail i guess |
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