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01:27.03Muhammad_Zhi! any command to launch program on specific monitor? it seem like KDE throw programs randomly between screens (I have two monitor)
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02:13.03ptx0it launch on what monitor your cursor is
02:13.17ptx0some windows have a problem with hinting like Matlab and other proprietary things
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02:33.37kaddiI'm running kde 5.18 (Ithink), baloo crashes on every boot. Is there a way to get it to work normally.. Usually it'll crash once the first new file is opened after boot. For example, I'll boot, everything is file. I open Firefox, download some file. Next thing that happens baloo crashes. I've tried creating a crash dump, but the stack is never useful
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02:35.10kaddijust tried running balooctl in konsole start and it leads to a segfault in baloo as soon as I switch away from konsole
02:37.04Zrenkaddi, the stacktrace isnt helpful?
02:37.42Zrendid you try clicking the install debug symbols button?
02:38.59Zrenkaddi, 5.18 sounds like the KDE Frameworks version, which is from... Kubuntu 16.04?
02:39.15kaddiZren: yes
02:39.52ZrenYou probably want the backports, or to upgrade to kubuntu 17.10.
02:40.06Zrenkubuntu backports*
02:40.15kaddiZren: not seeing a debug symbols butto, i have a list missing debug info. baloo_file, libQt5Core.so.5, libKF5BalooEngine.so.5 which I don't know the packages off
02:40.31kaddiZren: backports to what version?
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02:41.25ZrenThe 16.04 backports gives Plasma 5.8.x I think...
02:42.57kaddiok, I'll see how much of a download that is. If it's not too much I'll give it a go. :) If it's more than a couple 100MB, is there a way to disable baloo for now until I get back to Europe and can download the backported version
02:45.06ZrenI think you can disable it in the system settings > Search
02:45.12Zrennot 100% sure
02:45.22Zrenif that fully disables it
02:45.51Zrenif baloo used to work
02:46.25Zrenyou could try renaming ~/.local/share/baloo to baloo_backup
02:46.46Zrenthen restarting baloo
02:47.15Zrenkaddi,
02:47.33kaddiit probably used to work.. but I've been seeing that error message for a few months for sure already.. just needed to work up the desire to actually fix it >.>
02:47.53kaddithanks, i'll try that.. wifi seems absolutely reasonable atm, so I've gone ahead with the download.. should be done in an hour :)
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02:48.16kaddiso I'll do your steps next if the backport doesn't fix it :)
02:49.57kaddior maybe while the downloads happen. Lol. just jumped up to 6h
02:54.55kaddilol, looks like the renaming did the trick. :) Thanks :)
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03:54.55StavrHi! Small question: any clean way to completely mute the system notifications using vlc as phonon backend? (tried setting the notifications sound to mute through kmix, pulse audio control or the standard audio volume control in plasma, nothing works. Only solution so far is to move/delete the notification audio files themselves.
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04:03.29Guest9656PLEASE suggest a good email client
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05:26.27rgb-oneHey
05:28.17rgb-oneWhen trying to import a library using "Fetch Project...", I get this error message: "The Git plugin could not be loaded which is required to import a GitHub project."
05:28.34rgb-oneI am on Kubuntu 17.10
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06:43.46jmbaileyBefore the bug report - I'm asking, when only one of five is checked, user interface is update..normally yes?
06:45.05jmbaileyOh..one of five of the Supported apps. KMail,XChat,Kopete,Pidgin, and qutIM.
06:46.14jmbaileyis _seeing_ all apps listed.
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06:48.54jmbaileyi'll look for a personal patch and PR when it's ready. night.
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07:10.54myrdroidHi zren, i was here earlier with the Baloo issue. I finished installing the backport and now I only get a black screen on boot. Is this a known issue?  An easy fix?
07:11.49myrdroidIs there a way to revert?
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07:17.49Craig_hi, im using kde 4.14.2 on debian stable, and when my screen is locked, if i plug in my phone to charge, the usb widget from the bottom right of my panel pops up on top of the lock screen, and i can interact with it. luckily, i can't open an instance of dolphin though.
07:18.02Craig_could this be a security problem?
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07:32.01myrdroidZren I got lightdm to launch. I can login but nothing gets loaded. No plasmashell or kwin. Can't get a shell open in that session either
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07:45.27myrdroidAnyone else has tips on how to get my PC back to working.  I was recommended to install the KDE backport for Ubuntu 16.04 and now only get background on login. No click or hotkey will do anything
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08:00.20hateballmyrdroid: use ppa-purge
08:01.00myrdroidI can't get the machine online and only have the phone as alternative.
08:01.15amosbirdhi, what do the first two columns mean https://la.wentropy.com/vWdM.png ?
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08:01.22kishore96Switch to a tty and uninstall whatever it was you installed.
08:01.36myrdroidPp a purge is not installed unfortunately
08:02.40kishore96myrdroid: https://askubuntu.com/a/173199/374604
08:03.11kishore96And then look at your logs and uninstall whatever you installed.
08:03.24kishore96Can you switch to a tty?
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08:05.14myrdroidTty is available yes
08:05.28kishore96Does 16.04 use systemd?
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08:05.57kishore96If not, try looking at /var/log/apt* to see what you installed.
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08:06.48kishore96Or, in case you remember, just uninstall whatever you installed.
08:07.26myrdroidKishore I upgraded kde
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08:10.01kishore96I think you should be able to get a list of whatever was upgraded, and then install the older versions of those packages from apt's cache.
08:10.17kishore96There probably is an easier way, but I haven't used ubuntu in ages.
08:10.33kishore96myrdroid: What do you need to do to get the machine online?
08:10.43myrdroidWhen I try to run apt-add-repository --remove ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
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08:10.55myrdroidIt says the rep doesn't exist
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08:11.17myrdroidKishore configuring wpa_supplicant I guess
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08:14.13kishore96myrdroid: Check if that backports ppa is in /etc/apt/source.list.d/
08:14.14myrdroidI have the ssid and the password  (in clear ) entered in a config file when I try to launch wpa_supplicant it says initialized successfully followed by ioctl siocsiwencodeext invalid argument
08:15.33kishore96You should be able to delete the appropriate entry to remove it.
08:15.50myrdroidKishore I have kubuntu-ppa-ubuntu-backports-wily.list
08:16.01myrdroidJust delete it?
08:16.23myrdroidEh xenia too
08:18.36kishore96I think so. It's probably safer to move it somewhere instead of deleting it.
08:20.12kishore96Wait. how do you have repos for two different ubuntu versions?
08:21.11myrdroidWiley one is old and disabled
08:21.21myrdroidIt wasn't removed
08:21.35kishore96Try disabling the kubuntu one. It should remove the backports ppa.
08:21.42myrdroidI just typed the wrong name initially
08:21.52kishore96I think you should be able to edit the file and comment out the lines.
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08:22.48myrdroidI've moved the file. So now I do at-risk update and then try to install plasma-workspace
08:22.51myrdroid?
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08:23.35kishore96I think so.
08:24.02kishore96I'm not sure if it'll complain about not being able to contact the servers. I'm assuming the older versions are cached somewhere.
08:25.17myrdroidIt says I'm missing dependencies
08:26.34myrdroidKactivities, qttools5-dev-tools,libkf5screens and libprocessui7
08:26.35kishore96You'd probably get more help in #ubuntu. I'm not sure how many ubuntu users there are on this channel.
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08:27.32myrdroidUbuntu tends to not know much about KDE though
08:27.53hateballmyrdroid: that's why we have #kubuntu
08:28.26kishore96This is more of an apt or dpkg issue, though. I'm not sure if there would be anything KDE specific in the steps required.
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08:28.36hateballYeah
08:28.39myrdroidWhich is pretty much dead. I usually try there first before coming here
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08:29.28hateballmyrdroid: can you grab the ppa-purge package and transfer to your machine?
08:29.36myrdroidBut since the recommendation to install the backports was given here I figured I  try to solve it here too since the logs show more or less what was done
08:29.39hateballusing phone or USB or whatever
08:30.02myrdroidI don't know how  I would get it off my phone in tty
08:30.40kishore96How are you connecting to the internet? Wifi?
08:30.48hateballI am not sure why you dont have an internet connection either
08:31.25hateballIf you are usually using wifi in your user context and not systemwide, you'll need to manually bring it up using nmcli
08:31.33hateballThat's probably less of a headache
08:32.42kishore96hateball: Are you a ball of hate, or do you just hate balls?
08:32.54myrdroidKishore yeah wifi
08:33.39myrdroidHateball I'm guessing it's because password is stored in kwallet which isn't open?
08:33.52hateballmyrdroid: yep
08:33.58hateballmyrdroid: so do it manually using nmcli
08:34.07kishore96myrdroid: Look at the first example here. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Command_line
08:34.51kishore96Apparently nmtui gives you an ncurses based thingy.
08:35.17hateballah yes, that exists also
08:35.37hateballkishore96: also to answer your query, the former
08:36.32myrdroidKishore that's cool. So much easier than wpa_supplicant
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08:41.25myrdroidOK got WiFi working. Do I need to completely uninstall KDE now and reinstall it or is there a way to downgrade?
08:42.06kishore96I think if you remove the ppa and then do an apt upgrade, it should install whatever the repo version is.
08:42.12kishore96Or maybe dist-upgrade.
08:42.17kishore96I'm not sure which one.
08:43.20myrdroidIt says nothing to install. I'm guessing because the backport version is newer than the one in 16:04
08:43.50kishore96There should be a flag you can pass to apt to get it to install the repo version.
08:43.56myrdroidOk
08:45.15kishore96Did you do an apt update after removing the ppa?
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08:47.47myrdroidKishore yes
08:48.57kishore96Looks like ppa-purge should also downgrade stuff to the official versions
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08:51.38myrdroidI'll copy the list back in and try ppa-purge again
08:52.32myrdroidNo reversión because of unmet dependencies
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08:53.58hateballmyrdroid: use ppa-purge
08:55.12myrdroidI did it aborted because of unmet dependencies and now is telling me the ppa isn't installed
08:56.02kishore96Try adding the repo using the apt-add-repository thing.
09:00.59myrdroidFingers crossed
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09:05.23myrdroid270MB download needed. Hopefully things will work again after that
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09:26.48kaddihi, i'm back in my account..it's not quite smooth yet (traybar is missing for example), but at least I can log in and run GUI apps again.. So I'm gonna call it a night as it's 3:30am here
09:26.55kaddithanks for all your help, you guys rock :)
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09:31.12kaddiok, plasma-desktop wasn't installed.. god knows why. but got the traybar and the background back now as well :)
09:32.48leszek:)
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09:35.00kaddikishore96, hateball thanks a ton. Looks like everything is back to working normally.  I also learned about nmcli and ppa-purge which will surely come in handy in the future!
09:36.50kaddiGood night :)
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09:54.06ChemBrotime to change that password
09:54.12Nece228lol sorry
09:54.17Nece228well it was wrong anyway :D
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09:54.36Fuchsjust use SASL
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11:24.19SicnusI hate how you can't change the title format in Konsole....  Such a simple thing.  Sure, you can set tab titles... but I don't use tabs.  :/
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12:22.50reyawn[m]tabs are glorious
12:22.59reyawn[m]although I suppose if you use something like tmux they aren't as useful?
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12:45.09pdobrogostHi all!
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12:50.06pdobrogostIs anything happening in regard to Telepathy text chat handler (/usr/libexec/ktp-text-ui) crashing?
12:50.20pdobrogostI mean crashing in Fedora 27.
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13:06.46JanKusanagiwhat? of course you can change the title format in Konsole
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13:23.22R13ose3/4 of my screen is white and rest gray.  Using kde.  How do I fix this?
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14:05.24rgb-oneR13ose: What OS are you using?
14:05.37rgb-onedistribution*
14:05.42R13oseKubuntu 17.10
14:05.54rgb-oneah, me as well
14:06.21rgb-oneDoes this happen right after install?
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14:07.18rgb-oneDid this happen after a fresh install*
14:07.41R13oseNope this was not after a fresh install
14:12.22rgb-oneyou playing with backports or somethin?
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14:18.45R13osergb-one: unsure
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14:22.56bharatHello, is there any project in kde not written in c/c++?
14:24.10R13osergb-one: how do I check?
14:26.27kishore96If you don't know what they are, you probably aren't using them.
14:26.42kishore96You can check in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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14:59.31ZrenI guess he installed the wiley (15.10) backports instead of xenial (16.04)?
15:00.06hateballNo idea, but they got back to working with a little help (as you saw)
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17:19.39rflemingHello #kde.  Akonadi is giving me problems.  I'm getting an error that it could not open the required defaults file, and it snowballs from there.
17:19.56rfleminghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25874123/ is a paste of the output of akonadictl start, and the self test report.
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17:20.00rflemingI'm out of ideas.
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17:27.09JanKusanagiis that under Ubuntu, or you just happen to use their paste service?
17:29.04JanKusanagihttps://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/all/akonadi-backend-mysql/filelist  â† the missing file seems to be in this package, but do you actually have the file present?
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19:13.09intehello
19:13.17neoclustinte: hello
19:13.30inteim running kde nemo and i switched to wayland
19:14.16intekdm appears to run in wayland now, but wayland appears to run on top of Xorg
19:14.47intehow to i configure kdm/sddm to run a fully native wayland session instead?
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19:15.25intenot kdm, kde
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19:18.19rindolfinte: hi
19:18.33intehi:)
19:18.54inteand im running kde neon of course, not nemo
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19:19.24rindolfinte: i have https://github.com/shlomif/shlomif-computer-settings/blob/master/shlomif-settings/home-bin-executables/bin/plasmawayland.sh
19:20.43intemh ok
19:20.52intewhere did you put that?
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19:21.10intei tried executing from the terminal but it wouldnt find a backend
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19:22.10inteand, which distro?
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19:39.38rindolfinte: mageia v7
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19:43.44YMSIHi. people
19:43.59rindolfYMSI: hi
19:44.30YMSIHow are you?
19:44.41rindolfYMSI: i am fine
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19:45.11rindolfYMSI: tried helping some people on irc
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19:45.45rindolfYMSI: there is someone who keeps getting his C code wrong
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19:46.25YMSIrindolf: I'm not going to ask for help, I just came by to see what's going on here)
19:46.34rindolfYMSI: ah
19:47.36rindolfYMSI: which distro are you using?
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19:49.08intei still dont have any clue how to set wayland as standard in kde neon
19:52.04YMSIrindolf: I tried FBSD, but I did not like it... Well I'm not a Linux user.(May be temporarily)
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19:54.58YMSIsorry if i speak wrong. My English is not good)
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19:56.43YMSImight be kind of weird to connect here from win 95?
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19:58.46duckx0rWhen I select various icon themes for kde, they all work correctly, however if I use either of the Breeze icon themes, kate insists on using monochrome icons while everything else uses color icons. Is this intended behavior? Is there any way to get kate to use color icons?
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19:59.25rindolfYMSI: i dont understand
20:02.47ronnocSaw the email and Phabricator acticle regarding the KDE Promo sprint, now looking like late Q1 next year. That made me think - I would like to revive the KDE-USA group and plan on active promotion here in the States. Is anyone here insterested in such a thing?
20:02.48YMSIrindolf: unsurprisingly, I am Russian and I communicate with the Google translator... I can read you, but I can not reply
20:03.14rindolfYMSI: ah
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20:33.51Cyp_After resumingrom suspend, everythingI type is mising random letters, an the mouseis extremely laggy.
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20:44.45Cyp_Is there anyway to fix the keybaod? (I'mtyping perfectly, i's the keyboard malfunctioning.) The mouses doing the same thing
20:46.46rindolfCyp_: hi
20:47.06rindolfCyp_: did you try disconnecting and reconnecting it?
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20:49.32ScottPilgrimCyp_: Also, do you have the same effects if you switch to another virtual console (Ctrl+Alt+F<n>)
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20:51.16ScottPilgrimGuys, I am having a problem with kde-telepathy (specifically the Online Accounts KCM). It only has Google and Twitter, and the Twitter button does absolutely nothing. I am expecting to see Jabber etc as options.
20:52.03ScottPilgrimThis is a fairly fresh Debian 9 install
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20:56.50rindolfScottPilgrim: ah
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21:00.09JanKusanagiScottPilgrim: you're probably missing Telepathy modules
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21:00.20JanKusanagigabble for Jabber/XMPP, IIRC
21:00.54ScottPilgrimJanKusanagi: I have installed pretty much everything I can find in Aptitude that has the word "telepathy" in it
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21:01.17Cyp_Already tried disconnecting/reconnecting, and tried switching to VT, and resuspending/resuming.
21:02.12Cyp_Thanks anyway, afk.
21:03.30ScottPilgrimI have gabble, haze, idle, mission-control, rakia, resiprocate, ring, and salut, in addition to all kde-telepathy-*
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21:03.51ScottPilgrimNothing shows up in my KCM
21:05.13ScottPilgrimI wonder if Akonadi has something to do with it?
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21:16.10V7rindolf: ?
21:18.48rindolfV7: what are you asking?
21:22.56V7You've mentioned me
21:23.08V7Haven't you ?
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21:29.01rindolfV7: ah, i meant mageia version 7
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21:55.57JanKusanagirisky nick :D
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22:34.34zilionHi guys! I have one question..My Dolphin does not leave favorites. As much as I remove it, I restart my manchine and return again in favorites. Any idea?
22:34.59zilionIf help: I use Gentoo.
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23:19.25JanKusanagiFavorites, or Places?
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23:44.22zilionJanKusanagi: Favorites.
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