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00:33.16 | galex-713 | Hi |
00:33.26 | galex-713 | is crossbuilding easy with kde applications? |
00:33.39 | galex-713 | not from one arch to another but typically from gnu/linux to windows |
00:33.45 | galex-713 | when the app supports it (windows) |
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01:49.36 | Smallville | hey is anyone here? |
01:50.33 | Smallville | Kubuntu keeps getting stuck at 100% when copying files |
01:50.54 | Smallville | does it check file integrity or something? |
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01:59.57 | jankusanagi_ | to a flash drive? |
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03:57.06 | dpalacio | >qmlpackagelauncher is a tiny command line tool provided by KDeclarative: itâs used to launch an application that is written in QML-only (no main application executable). |
03:57.11 | dpalacio | from notmart's blog http://notmart.org/blog/2015/03/writing-qml-based-apps-the-kde-way/ |
03:57.21 | dpalacio | have these qml kde applications taken off? |
03:57.33 | dpalacio | I've been away from the KDE scene for some years |
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07:48.35 | nyunix | think i got hacked. someone changed my password for sudo. anyway to get back into sudo without restarting the OS? |
07:49.10 | Zren | Made a master volume slider in the panel widget for my TV |
07:49.13 | Zren | https://store.kde.org/p/1200724/ |
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07:50.28 | Travankor | edit sudoers |
07:50.49 | Travankor | if you still have a root accoiunt that is |
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07:53.13 | nyunix | no |
07:53.27 | nyunix | any recommendation to prevent being hacked in the future? |
07:56.18 | Travankor | what distro do you have? |
07:56.40 | Travankor | there should be security documentation and tips for most of them |
07:57.13 | Travankor | anyways this isnt kde related haha |
07:58.35 | Travankor | anyways just use a live cd to reinstall and look at some basic security reccomendations |
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08:59.57 | sia123 | hey i am new here.....can anyone help me to know how do i begin to provide for KDE development |
09:01.05 | sia123 | hey i am new here.....can anyone help me to know how do i begin to provide for KDE development |
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10:22.48 | lord_rob | Hi! My KDE Wallet always asks me for password now, so I can't connect directly to my WiFi network. How can disable that? I'm using Framework 5.37 Plateform 5.10 App 16.08 |
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11:23.28 | bluebouris | hello, are there any gui apps / widgets to control the pc case fans in plasma 5? |
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11:53.30 | kishore96 | lord_rob: Go to the settings for that network, security tab, and choose the unencrypted password storage option. |
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13:46.11 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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15:22.44 | eagle | has anyone a shells cript that lists the number of all unread mail of kmail? |
15:22.50 | eagle | *script |
15:23.29 | jankusanagi_ | maybe you can ask it via dbus |
15:24.36 | eagle | is there documentation about it? |
15:25.38 | eagle | I can't use the tray icon, as i3wm hasn't support for SNI yet |
15:25.48 | eagle | afaik |
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15:34.11 | jankusanagi_ | you can browse dbus services with qdbus and qdbusviewer, find the one offered by kmail and look at the methods it provides |
15:34.34 | jankusanagi_ | one might be something like "unreadCount()" or something like that |
15:36.01 | eagle | jankusanagi_: thanks |
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17:08.50 | _Justice_ | where does kde set language settings ? |
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17:12.16 | _Justice_ | that the LANG bug still exists... |
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17:46.40 | ltosky[m] | LANG bug? |
17:54.01 | Justice | ltosky[m]: i had created a bug report about this ages ago but somehow cannot find it... |
17:54.07 | Justice | setting preffered language to US |
17:54.12 | Justice | then setting region to some other |
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17:54.32 | Justice | the tool sets $LANG to the region setting |
17:54.54 | Justice | PROFIT == mixed language in KDE in dialogs and desktop. |
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17:55.27 | Etua | Hello, is there sorce code for vdesign.kde.org available somewhere? |
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17:58.00 | F0NSl | hey F0nsi? |
17:58.00 | F0NSl | Oh nno |
17:58.02 | F0NSl | ¿Qué passa Demi? |
17:58.06 | F0NSl | Hey yeah! |
17:58.10 | F0NSl | Tengo en esta historia algo que confesar |
17:58.14 | F0NSl | Ya entendà muy bien que fue lo que paso |
17:58.18 | F0NSl | Y aunque duela tanto tengo que aceptar |
17:58.22 | F0NSl | Que tu no eres la mala, que el malo soy yo |
17:58.25 | BluesKaj | damn trolls |
17:58.26 | F0NSl | No me conociste nunca de verdad |
17:58.30 | F0NSl | Ya se fue la magia que te enamoro |
17:58.34 | F0NSl | Y es que no quisiera estar en tu lugar |
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17:58.38 | F0NSl | Porque tu error solo fue conocerme |
17:58.42 | F0NSl | refrain begin: No eres tú, no eres tú no eres tú, soy yo (soy yo) |
17:58.46 | F0NSl | No te quiero hacer sufrir |
17:58.50 | BluesKaj | freenode should ban it |
17:58.50 | F0NSl | Es mejor olvidar y dejarlo asà (asÃ) |
17:58.54 | F0NSl | refrain end: Ãchame la culpa |
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17:58.58 | F0NSl | ~REFRAIN~ |
17:59.02 | F0NSl | refrain2 begin: Ok, I don't really, really wanna fight anymore |
17:59.06 | F0NSl | I don't really, really wanna fake it no more |
17:59.10 | F0NSl | Play me like The Beatles baby just let it be |
17:59.14 | F0NSl | refrain2 end: So come on put the blame on me, yeah |
17:59.18 | F0NSl | -REFRAIN2- |
17:59.22 | F0NSl | +REFRAIN (x2)+ |
17:59.26 | F0NSl | refrain3 begin: Solamente te falta un beso (x2) |
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17:59.30 | F0NSl | Ese beso que siempre te prometi |
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17:59.34 | F0NSl | refrain3 end: echame la culpa |
17:59.38 | F0NSl | #REFRAIN3# |
17:59.42 | F0NSl | %REFRAIN2 (x2)% |
17:59.46 | F0NSl | âREFRAIN (x2)â |
17:59.52 | F0NSl | /REFRAIN3 (x2)/ |
17:59.52 | F0NSl | ---------------------------- |
17:59.52 | sander | BluesKaj: theyve already done it, but it keeps coming in channels like plasma and gentoo, too |
17:59.54 | F0NSl | Si sabes que ya lIevo un rato mirandote |
18:00.02 | F0NSl | Tengo que bailar contigo hoy |
18:00.02 | F0NSl | Vi que tu mirada ya estaba llamándome |
18:00.06 | F0NSl | Muéstrame el camino que yo voy |
18:00.08 | BluesKaj | !ops |
18:00.10 | F0NSl | Tú, tú eres el imán y yo soy el metal |
18:00.14 | F0NSl | Me voy acercando y voy armando el plan |
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18:00.18 | F0NSl | Sólo con pensarlo se acelera el pulso (oh, yeah!) |
18:00.22 | F0NSl | Ya, ya me está gustando más de lo normal |
18:00.26 | F0NSl | Todos mis sentidos van pidiendo más |
18:00.30 | F0NSl | Esto hay que tomarlo sin ningún apuro |
18:00.34 | F0NSl | refrain begin: Despacito |
18:00.38 | F0NSl | Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito |
18:00.42 | F0NSl | Deja que te diga cosas al oÃdo |
18:00.46 | F0NSl | Para que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo |
18:00.50 | F0NSl | Despacito |
18:00.54 | F0NSl | Firmo en las paredes de tu laberinto |
18:00.58 | F0NSl | Y hacer de tu cuerpo todo un manuscrito |
18:01.02 | F0NSl | Sube, sube, sube sube, sube |
18:01.06 | F0NSl | Quiero ver bailar tu pelo, quiero ser tu ritmo |
18:01.10 | F0NSl | Que le enseñes a mi boca |
18:01.14 | F0NSl | Tus lugares favoritos (favorito, favorito, baby!) |
18:01.18 | F0NSl | Déjame sobrepasar tus zonas de peligro |
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18:01.22 | F0NSl | refrain end: Hasta provocar tus gritos |
18:01.26 | F0NSl | Si te pido un beso, ven, dámelo, yo sé que estás pensándolo |
18:01.30 | F0NSl | Llevo tiempo intentándolo, mami, esto es dando y dándolo |
18:01.34 | F0NSl | Sabes que tu corazón conmigo te hace bang-bang |
18:01.38 | F0NSl | Sabes que esa beba está buscando de mi bang-bang |
18:01.42 | F0NSl | Ven, prueba de mi boca para ver cómo te sabe |
18:01.46 | F0NSl | Quiero, quiero, quiero ver cuánto amor a ti te cabe |
18:01.50 | F0NSl | Yo no tengo prisa, yo me quiero dar el viaje |
18:01.54 | F0NSl | Empecemos lento, después salvaje |
18:01.58 | F0NSl | Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito |
18:02.02 | F0NSl | Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito |
18:02.06 | F0NSl | Cuando tú me besas con esa destreza |
18:02.10 | F0NSl | Veo que eres malicia con delicadeza |
18:02.14 | F0NSl | Pasito a pasito, suave suavecito |
18:02.18 | F0NSl | Nos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito |
18:02.22 | F0NSl | Y es que esa belleza es un rompecabezas |
18:02.26 | F0NSl | Pero pa' montarlo aquà tengo la pieza, oye! |
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18:02.32 | F0NSl | -REFRAIN- |
18:02.34 | crazy | tosky: bshah wake up =) |
18:02.34 | F0NSl | Despacito! |
18:02.39 | F0NSl | Vamo' a hacerlo en una playa en Puerto Rico |
18:02.42 | F0NSl | Hasta que las olas griten "Ay, Bendito!" |
18:02.46 | F0NSl | Para que mi sello se quede contigo |
18:02.51 | F0NSl | Bailalo! |
18:02.51 | F0NSl | ----------------------------- |
18:02.54 | F0NSl | hey F0nsi? |
18:02.54 | ltosky[m] | crazy: remote right now |
18:02.58 | F0NSl | Oh nno |
18:03.03 | F0NSl | ¿Qué passa Demi? |
18:03.06 | F0NSl | Hey yeah! |
18:03.11 | F0NSl | Tengo en esta historia algo que confesar |
18:03.16 | F0NSl | Ya entendà muy bien que fue lo que paso |
18:03.19 | F0NSl | Y aunque duela tanto tengo que aceptar |
18:03.23 | F0NSl | Que tu no eres la mala, que el malo soy yo |
18:03.26 | F0NSl | No me conociste nunca de verdad |
18:03.30 | F0NSl | Ya se fue la magia que te enamoro |
18:03.35 | F0NSl | Y es que no quisiera estar en tu lugar |
18:03.39 | F0NSl | Porque tu error solo fue conocerme |
18:03.43 | F0NSl | refrain begin: No eres tú, no eres tú no eres tú, soy yo (soy yo) |
18:03.47 | F0NSl | No te quiero hacer sufrir |
18:03.51 | F0NSl | Es mejor olvidar y dejarlo asà (asÃ) |
18:03.55 | F0NSl | refrain end: Ãchame la culpa |
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18:03.59 | F0NSl | ~REFRAIN~ |
18:04.03 | F0NSl | refrain2 begin: Ok, I don't really, really wanna fight anymore |
18:04.06 | F0NSl | I don't really, really wanna fake it no more |
18:04.11 | F0NSl | Play me like The Beatles baby just let it be |
18:04.15 | F0NSl | refrain2 end: So come on put the blame on me, yeah |
18:04.19 | F0NSl | -REFRAIN2- |
18:04.23 | F0NSl | +REFRAIN (x2)+ |
18:04.27 | F0NSl | refrain3 begin: Solamente te falta un beso (x2) |
18:04.31 | F0NSl | Ese beso que siempre te prometi |
18:04.35 | F0NSl | refrain3 end: echame la culpa |
18:04.39 | F0NSl | #REFRAIN3# |
18:04.43 | F0NSl | %REFRAIN2 (x2)% |
18:04.47 | F0NSl | âREFRAIN (x2)â |
18:04.51 | F0NSl | /REFRAIN3 (x2)/ |
18:04.51 | F0NSl | ---------------------------- |
18:04.55 | F0NSl | Si sabes que ya lIevo un rato mirandote |
18:04.59 | F0NSl | Tengo que bailar contigo hoy |
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18:05.29 | crazy | lol |
18:05.42 | crazy | [19:05:01] ilbelkyr [ilbelkyr@freenode/staff/atheme.ilbelkyr] hat #kde betreten |
18:05.42 | crazy | [19:05:01] F0NSl [~F0NSl@139.59.63.18] hat den Server verlassen: Read error: Connection reset by peer |
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18:06.05 | ilbelkyr | aw guess I'm too scary for them :( |
18:06.42 | tosky2 | thanks |
18:07.14 | tosky2 | failed to understand how to contact nickserv through riot.im |
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18:08.27 | crazy | ltosky[m]: : btw this guy seems to alsways use same nick .. maybe ban based on that in #plasma , #kde , #kde-devel ? |
18:09.08 | crazy | or seems allways be F0NSl ~F0NSl@random_ip |
18:09.13 | ltosky[m] | crazy: the nick changed twice already, but I can try a bigger mask |
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18:12.49 | BluesKaj | ban his IP , doesn't look like a vpn or cloud server |
18:14.54 | crazy | BluesKaj: is $random_ip not the same so probably proxy(s) |
18:15.49 | BluesKaj | digital oceabn servers, he's IP hopping |
18:16.19 | BluesKaj | ocean |
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18:30.14 | Justice | hi anyone knows how i can trigger gdb to show bt after a sigint to the kwin process? |
18:30.46 | Justice | trying to find out why kwin crashes with nvidia and i found a 99% reliable way to make it crash but cannot get a trace |
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18:40.35 | josef64 | Justice: Hm, try using the compositor with default OpenGL 2.0 instead of 3.1 |
18:41.08 | josef64 | this should normal work fine with the nvidia blob driver |
18:41.21 | crazy | Justice: why don't you just run kwin in gdb ? |
18:42.02 | josef64 | Justice: In `kcmshell5 kwincompositing` |
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18:42.56 | Justice | crazy: i treid gdb issue is that kwin hangs |
18:43.19 | Justice | i need to do kill -9 in another tty to get back into desktop |
18:44.54 | crazy | Justice: what plasma version is that ? |
18:45.45 | Justice | latest arch um |
18:45.58 | Justice | plasma-desktop 5.11.3 |
18:46.35 | Justice | runnign in xrender worked most of the time but tried now back to opengl 3.1 |
18:46.37 | simonizor | I've seen quite a few people have issues with Arch's build of plasma |
18:47.06 | Justice | this issue has been long standing and ive posted bugs in nvidia etc but they cannot seem to trigger it |
18:47.11 | simonizor | not sure if it's very well built; seen far more people have issues with it than the same version on KDE neon |
18:47.20 | Justice | but now i get it trigger each time i start a popup in steam |
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18:47.51 | Justice | hm |
18:48.03 | crazy | Justice: well arch is using X / mesa with libglvnd .. maybe there something wrong |
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18:48.30 | Justice | crazy: dunno all i know it seems that kwin hangs |
18:48.38 | Justice | and i need to kill it in another tty to get back |
18:48.49 | Justice | YES i got a coredump this time |
18:48.57 | crazy | however nvidia bugs cannot be really fixed .. workarounds maybe when we know what may be wrong |
18:49.10 | crazy | Justice: but I do know :) |
18:49.35 | Justice | yup but lots of issues only triggers in kwin |
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18:49.41 | Justice | but i dont want to switch DE just yet |
18:49.47 | Justice | but finnaly i got a coredump from kwin |
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18:50.29 | simonizor | Try using Plasma on KDE neon and see if you have the same issue |
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18:50.40 | simonizor | Kinda willing to bet that it's an issue with the Arch build |
18:51.13 | crazy | Justice: did you reported that as bug to ArchLinux folks ? |
18:51.17 | Justice | simonizor: i think its a race condition of some sort, Nvidia dev tried to use arch with latest kde and they cannot seem to trigger it. |
18:51.24 | Justice | crazy: not yet but |
18:52.04 | mike-zal | Justice: did you try purging configs? sometimes they get corrupted and things go south |
18:52.09 | Justice | mike-zal: yes |
18:52.17 | crazy | simonizor: seems like .. but maybe Justice tells us howto trigger , since I can't on 5.11.3 |
18:52.18 | Justice | deleted all .kde4 and .config related files |
18:52.32 | crazy | .kde4 ?:) O_o |
18:52.45 | mike-zal | yeap, still hands somewhere in the system |
18:52.50 | mike-zal | hangs* |
18:52.51 | simonizor | Yeah, the arch build does that |
18:52.56 | simonizor | That's one of the major reasons I dont' trust it lol |
18:53.12 | simonizor | I dunno why the Arch build is still making a .kde4 folder |
18:53.30 | mike-zal | there are packages that still need kde4, even libre takes qt look from kde4 troll file |
18:53.35 | Justice | Stack trace of thread 19117: #0 0x00007fb07ea1e8a0 n/a (n/a) |
18:53.39 | Justice | wasnt that usefull |
18:53.41 | simonizor | It should be symlinked to .kde |
18:53.44 | simonizor | Not its own dir |
18:54.24 | crazy | it should just not be there :D |
18:54.27 | tosky | it will disappear when the last kdelibs 4.x application is removed form the archive |
18:54.35 | tosky | (it == ~/.kde4 or ~/.kde) |
18:54.37 | simonizor | Yeah, I have no .kde4 folder on my KDE neon install |
18:54.41 | tosky | or at least it will be useless |
18:55.32 | Justice | hm |
18:55.38 | Justice | no backtrace or anything ;/ |
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18:58.36 | josef64 | Justice: Run it with default OpenGL 2.0 should help |
18:58.46 | josef64 | (works here fine) |
18:59.55 | Justice | not for me |
19:00.04 | Justice | switched to 2.0 and it triggerd right away |
19:00.20 | Justice | only thing that seems to work is strace on kwin process |
19:00.58 | josef64 | 25.11 [19:46:35] <Justice> runnign in xrender worked most of the time but tried now back to opengl 3.1 |
19:01.01 | simonizor | You should serioulsy try a known working build of plasma such as KDE neon. |
19:01.07 | simonizor | Arch's build is doing weird things. |
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19:02.04 | F0NSl | hey F0nsi? |
19:02.04 | F0NSl | Oh nno |
19:02.07 | F0NSl | ¿Qué passa Demi? |
19:02.09 | josef64 | or test it with a fresh clean testuser |
19:02.11 | F0NSl | Hey yeah! |
19:02.15 | F0NSl | Tengo en esta historia algo que confesar |
19:02.19 | F0NSl | Ya entendà muy bien que fue lo que paso |
19:02.23 | F0NSl | Y aunque duela tanto tengo que aceptar |
19:02.27 | crazy | ilbelkyr: :) |
19:02.27 | F0NSl | Que tu no eres la mala, que el malo soy yo |
19:02.31 | F0NSl | No me conociste nunca de verdad |
19:02.35 | F0NSl | Ya se fue la magia que te enamoro |
19:02.42 | crazy | ty :) |
19:02.46 | ilbelkyr | np |
19:02.53 | Justice | simonizor: thing is if i restart the issues come at random |
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19:03.08 | F0NSl | hey F0nsi? |
19:03.08 | F0NSl | Oh nno |
19:03.11 | F0NSl | ¿Qué passa Demi? |
19:03.14 | Justice | this is the first time i actually found a 100% trigger for the kwin hang that will probably stop after a reboot |
19:03.15 | F0NSl | Hey yeah! |
19:03.15 | simonizor | Try a known working build of Plasma such as KDE neon. |
19:03.19 | F0NSl | Tengo en esta historia algo que confesar |
19:04.13 | simonizor | I've honestly seen all sorts of random issues with Arch's plasma build when trying to help people in a Discord server for Linux |
19:05.24 | crazy | simonizor: well in Arch even they do the builds right they allow users to mix these then with AUR crap resulting in wery weird systems and issues |
19:05.36 | crazy | *very |
19:07.04 | crazy | Justice: however I would try that if you have some testing partition or so .. just install something known to work and see whatever you can trigger there |
19:07.32 | Justice | hm |
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19:12.16 | Justice | though i find it odd that strace "fixes" it |
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19:15.50 | Justice | crazy: simonizor, if this helps anything https://bpaste.net/show/8b8de8fc8be3 |
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19:17.28 | Justice | though |
19:17.33 | mike-zal | I read on kwin developer's blog that suse is the best cooperating with lde company, so the plasma in suse is the best. however, I found it lacking comopared to arch... |
19:17.36 | Justice | why does it list opengl version 3.1 then 4.6 |
19:17.56 | mike-zal | for example, I couldn't install some programs because of some rpm issues. no issues on arch |
19:18.31 | mike-zal | system wasn't correctly localized and the same window has "ok" and "cancel" buttons on different languages |
19:18.32 | Justice | OpenGL version: 3.1; OpenGL version: 4.6 |
19:18.38 | crazy | kwin_core: OpenGL 2 compositing setup failed <-- |
19:18.39 | mike-zal | it took them a year to figure this out |
19:18.49 | mike-zal | while on arch/manjaro all worked well |
19:18.51 | Justice | maybe it tries to restart in 4.6 and fails? |
19:19.13 | crazy | Justice: no-one know what nvidia does =) |
19:19.21 | Justice | yes but those are logs from kwin |
19:19.41 | Justice | and since strace on kwin fixes the issue im thinking its kwin issue not nvidia even if it could be theirs in the end. |
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19:21.21 | crazy | Justice: always nvidia :-) kwin may have bugs for sure but it does workaround known things .. nvidia is closed source and hell knows wth it does |
19:21.59 | crazy | also it can be a kernel/mesa .. mesa/X etc problem too .. without some bt who can tell ? |
19:22.37 | Justice | true but if strace on kwin disables the issue then it feels like kwin is handling it wrong no ? |
19:22.51 | Justice | so instead of killing kwin or restarting it hangs on something. |
19:23.20 | Justice | and since strace fixes it it feels like a race condition inside kwin |
19:23.34 | Justice | no? |
19:24.15 | crazy | well not really .. |
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19:30.57 | Justice | crazy: hm dunno will try neon when i get a hold on it until i will prolly just try gnome or something |
19:32.52 | josef64 | Justice: "Driver version: 387.34" |
19:32.52 | josef64 | this is a brand new driver version - please try it with the current stable version |
19:33.02 | josef64 | https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/533434/linux/current-graphics-driver-releases/ |
19:33.14 | Justice | josef64: this issue has been for 2 years now |
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19:33.25 | Justice | well the hangs have been for 6months or so |
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19:33.43 | josef64 | yes, with OpenGL 3.1 on kwin |
19:33.50 | Justice | josef64: even on 2.0 |
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20:38.40 | bozhidarhristov | Hello, I have SFTP mounted with Dolphin - can anyone tell me where is mount point of it? |
20:39.49 | oprypin | bozhidarhristov, there is no mount point |
20:40.48 | bozhidarhristov | @oprypin :( how can access it from cli then? |
20:42.08 | oprypin | bozhidarhristov, IRC discussion from earlier https://bpaste.net/show/fff60f05353c |
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20:43.26 | mike-zal | bozhidarhristov: why not use ssh? |
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20:44.26 | mike-zal | and for managing files between servers or sytem and server, I use krusader, which can connect to multiple servers. |
20:44.58 | mike-zal | just use fish protocol and save it as bookmark (ctrl+d) |
20:45.15 | oprypin | how is that related to anything |
20:45.20 | bozhidarhristov | @mike-zal I have project on my desktop machine and I would like to edit files directly from my laptop - instead of cloning project again. I guess SFTP is my best option. How can I do it thru SSH only? |
20:45.37 | oprypin | sftp is superior to fish and dolphin can do all the same |
20:46.05 | mike-zal | but dolphin is dumb compared to what krusader can do ;) |
20:46.05 | oprypin | edit your files in an editor that supports SFTP |
20:46.17 | oprypin | mike-zal, it actually isn't |
20:46.42 | oprypin | just doesn't have an in-your-face button for everything so maybe you don't get it |
20:47.04 | mike-zal | yeah, it is. dolphin is awesome but lacks so many features that it's hard to manage multiple locations, especially remote ones at the same time. |
20:47.21 | bozhidarhristov | @oprypin I guess I can just mount it in /etc/fstab - and that would be easier instead with dolphin |
20:47.35 | oprypin | it would be worse |
20:47.38 | bozhidarhristov | with SSHFS |
20:47.42 | mike-zal | oprypin: does dolphin has "remeber session"? |
20:48.12 | oprypin | bozhidarhristov, the editor would not understand that the resource is remote so the UI would lag due to blocking file operations |
20:48.32 | oprypin | overall sshfs with a GUI application is a terrible experience. i know cuz i use it every day |
20:48.33 | bozhidarhristov | @oprypin I guess if networking is good - I wont even notice it. |
20:48.51 | oprypin | that's not true |
20:48.59 | oprypin | bozhidarhristov, what prevents you from using an editor that supports SFTP? |
20:49.01 | mike-zal | bozhidarhristov: you can use cloud programs like mega, dropbox, etc. to sync files between computers and you don't need solid ip (not sure how it is named in English) like with servers. |
20:49.49 | mike-zal | mega gives you 50GB space for free :) |
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20:50.03 | mike-zal | most projects will fit there |
20:50.13 | bozhidarhristov | @oprypin I wanted to not keep copy on my laptop - because it's hard to sync - IF I edit files only on desktop - then I have to download them on laptop. |
20:50.20 | bozhidarhristov | and vice versa |
20:50.40 | oprypin | bozhidarhristov, i'm not suggesting that |
20:51.10 | bozhidarhristov | @oprypin usually editors that supports SFTP have local copy of files and uploads them on save? |
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20:51.42 | oprypin | bozhidarhristov, i don't know such editors |
20:51.52 | oprypin | but of course it uploads on save, what else can it do |
20:54.23 | oprypin | basically what im saying is, use Kate |
20:54.24 | mike-zal | I tested sshfs once and it worked well - it mounted remote directory |
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20:54.48 | asturm | second that |
20:55.14 | bozhidarhristov | I will try with sshfs - if it's not good I will have local copy and it's over. another question: what do you use for connection management? Alternative for MTPuTTy in Windows? I know only PAC for GNOME - but cannot find anything for KDE |
20:55.50 | oprypin | bozhidarhristov, I don't understand a need for this |
20:56.15 | oprypin | and yes, sshfs is unpleasant so you should use SFTP |
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20:56.21 | bozhidarhristov | @oprypin I cannot remember 20 or more IPs. I want my PC to remember them for me |
20:56.34 | oprypin | eh add aliases in ~/.ssh/config |
20:57.00 | bozhidarhristov | @oprypin can aliases also remember ports and usernames ? |
20:57.05 | oprypin | yes |
20:57.18 | bozhidarhristov | @oprypin cool I will give it try. Thanks a lot :) |
20:57.36 | oprypin | bozhidarhristov, http://nerderati.com/2011/03/17/simplify-your-life-with-an-ssh-config-file/#sshconfig |
20:59.58 | oprypin | SFTP support in KDE applications also picks up this config |
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21:03.38 | oprypin | (unless you're using the completely broken libssh 0.7.5 which still hasn't released a fixed version https://red.libssh.org/issues/260 ) |
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21:05.11 | asturm | well hopefully everyone has that patched |
21:05.34 | oprypin | Arch currently has, thankfully https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libssh#n35 |
21:05.52 | bozhidarhristov | Huh I'm with Arch :) I have 0.7.5.2 |
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21:06.17 | oprypin | thats the patched one |
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21:59.05 | ee | Ouh nno |
21:59.07 | ee | ¿Quué passa Demi? |
21:59.11 | ee | Hey yeah! |
21:59.16 | ee | Tengo en esta historia algo que confesar |
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23:51.51 | Crell42 | Hello, peoples. I just installed Kubuntu 17.10 and am setting up Kontact. I was able to connect to my IMAP servers without incident (which is a first, yay!), but after downloading all of the directories and mail... I can't actually view it. Clicking a folder on the left still shows me the KMail welcome screen on the right. I presume I'm missing something here... Any idea what? |
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23:54.06 | Crell42 | I... huh. OK, never mind. Restating Kontact fixed it. That's bizarre behavior... |
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