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| 00:23.55 | hololeap | how do i hide all icons on the desktop? |
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| 00:24.58 | hololeap | ok im back |
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| 04:07.32 | clarjon1 | hey quick question |
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| 04:09.53 | clarjon1 | Dropdown in the system tray that says "Instant Messaging", and the configure dialogue states "Configure your internet accounts such as Google, Live, Owncloud" |
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| 04:10.33 | clarjon1 | ahhh telepathy i think |
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| 04:32.40 | clarjon1 | Ok, running kcmshell5 kcm_accounts lets me see that there's supposed to be a popu for an oauth2 plugin when i try to add my twitter account... |
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| 05:21.37 | D-rex | any widgets/addons that make the taskbar behave like windows, showing the current operation in the taskbar icon |
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| 08:55.42 | napterk | hallo |
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| 08:57.09 | napterk | have a problem with a shorcut I once set, but I can't find it in the systemsetting shortcuts? Any idea how I find it or the app it belongs to? |
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| 09:27.50 | oprypin | napterk, go to any global shortcut thing and try to set this keyboard shortcut to any arbitrary action. it will tell you that it's already set somewhere, and actually tell you exactly where it's set |
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| 09:35.46 | napterk | oprypin, that's a good idea. Haven't thought about it. |
| 09:36.30 | napterk | but this shortcut doesn't seem to come from kde. I checked also the xbindkeyconf, but could not find anything |
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| 09:38.47 | napterk | okay got the correspondant command, but strange that I cannot find it in the global shortcuts |
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| 09:40.00 | napterk | no sorry got it. It was in kwin |
| 09:40.21 | napterk | but I have to say this kwin list is a bit large |
| 09:41.40 | napterk | nevermind, thank you! |
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| 14:28.36 | n4mu | Hello #kde |
| 14:30.34 | n4mu | I'm using plasma/KDE 5.8.4 since a few months now. I've noticed that Focus stealing prevention is not the same. I recall a setting a while back that seemed extremely perfect, to the point where it was almost the main reason for using KDE. |
| 14:30.53 | n4mu | This setting was something along the lines of "super smart focus stealing prevention". |
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| 14:31.58 | n4mu | I put newly opened windows in front EXCEPT if I was doing something in another window (for example, I open a program, it takes a little while, I decide to go to a terminal and do something, in this case the new window opens just behind. |
| 14:32.13 | n4mu | This avoids me typing random stuff in to the newly opened window. |
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| 14:33.01 | n4mu | Since the upgrade I've lost all my settings, and going through systemsettings5, I can't seem to locate the correct setting |
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| 14:33.48 | oprypin | aw sure sounds like a nice change |
| 14:33.54 | oprypin | i mean nice feature |
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| 14:42.58 | jankusanagi_ | that seems like the behaviour I have |
| 14:43.04 | jankusanagi_ | and I don't think I've changed that setting |
| 14:43.06 | jankusanagi_ | let me see |
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| 14:43.27 | jankusanagi_ | "focus stealing prevention" is set to "medium" |
| 14:43.38 | TomyWork | in the latest Kate version, has the tab order disorder been cleared up yet? |
| 14:43.52 | oprypin | dont use tabs please |
| 14:44.55 | TomyWork | in kate 3.13.3 (comes with kde 4.13.3/ubuntu 14.04), i can reorder tabs and then the "next document" shortcut's order doesn't correspond to the tab order |
| 14:45.07 | TomyWork | sometimes it even happens without reordering tabs |
| 14:45.23 | TomyWork | (using the "tab bar" plugin) |
| 14:45.44 | TomyWork | i took a look at ubuntu 16.04, there, the problem was "fixed" by simply disallowing tab reordering |
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| 14:45.55 | TomyWork | which, i guess, is ok as a temporary measure to stop the confusion |
| 14:46.05 | TomyWork | but i wonder, is tab reordering coming back? |
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| 14:48.30 | oprypin | TomyWork, tab reordering works, and in the correct order (assuming you use the "next tab" keyboard shortcut) |
| 14:48.41 | TomyWork | oprypin from which version on? |
| 14:48.57 | oprypin | and i'm pretty sure you're not using the "latest" Kate version, so it would be nice of you to specify it |
| 14:50.01 | oprypin | re-disables tabs |
| 14:50.41 | TomyWork | oprypin i never said i was :) |
| 14:51.00 | TomyWork | Kate 15.12.3 KDE 5.18.0 Ubuntu 16.04.3 is the other Kate version i tried |
| 14:51.07 | oprypin | D: D: |
| 14:51.33 | TomyWork | so it's finally fixed now? sweet |
| 14:51.56 | TomyWork | maybe i'll skip 16.04 then and wait for 18.04... assuming that version has the fix in it |
| 14:52.20 | jankusanagi_ | tab reordering seems fine here |
| 14:52.26 | jankusanagi_ | Mageia 7, Kate 17.08 |
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| 14:53.05 | TomyWork | Mageia 7 is still in development, no? |
| 14:53.12 | jankusanagi_ | yes |
| 14:53.19 | jankusanagi_ | but regardless, Kate 17.08 |
| 14:53.46 | jankusanagi_ | latest stable Ubuntu from October should have that version |
| 14:54.05 | TomyWork | yeah, i'm not going to use non-lts ubuntu ever again :) |
| 14:54.15 | TomyWork | 9 months and then support runs out... nope. |
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| 14:55.06 | TomyWork | when i seriously started using linux as a desktop, i started with 13.04 |
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| 14:55.37 | TomyWork | iirc, that version was the first one with reduced 9-month support |
| 14:57.55 | TomyWork | oprypin what do you have against tabs btw? they save the precious horizontal space on your wide-screen monitor in exchange for the abundant vertical space |
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| 14:58.10 | TomyWork | plus, if you have a lot of them, you get to guess the file names |
| 14:58.15 | oprypin | TomyWork, did you hear what you just said? |
| 14:58.25 | oprypin | is this extreme irony? |
| 14:58.27 | TomyWork | yes |
| 14:58.32 | oprypin | well, that, then |
| 14:58.45 | TomyWork | i'm just used to them :) |
| 15:00.14 | TomyWork | anyway, thanks for testing |
| 15:00.20 | TomyWork | glad to see it repaired |
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| 16:04.57 | jankusanagi_ | for the record, tabs can be set vertically, on a side of the window, saving that precious vertical space |
| 16:05.11 | jankusanagi_ | maybe not in Kate, but it's a general possibility that Qt offers =) |
| 16:05.47 | oprypin | yes but there's something much better - file tree view |
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| 16:06.16 | oprypin | and it shows only opened files, which is pretty much the main draw of Kate |
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| 16:13.08 | endriago | Hello, someone here for a question? |
| 16:14.20 | BluesKaj | endriago, just ask your question |
| 16:14.40 | endriago | I'm trying to install the theme "ghost" in my Antergos with KDE plasma 5 and I do not work the decoration of the windows ??? |
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| 16:16.54 | jankusanagi_ | "better" is a relative term |
| 16:17.01 | jankusanagi_ | endriago: are you sure that theme is not for Plasma 4? |
| 16:17.25 | jankusanagi_ | because I remember it from Plasma 4 times, and it might not have been updated |
| 16:17.47 | endriago | I will not check it |
| 16:19.57 | endriago | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk0EAEWok94 |
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| 16:21.45 | endriago | apparently the theme is for plasma 5, I tried it as in the video and just do not work the "window decoration" I think I should miss something |
| 16:23.19 | jankusanagi_ | I see it's based in the Aurorae engine, maybe your distribution builds kwin without support for that? |
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| 16:24.30 | jankusanagi_ | can you get any other aurorae-based windeco working? |
| 16:24.57 | endriago | and how should I solve it? |
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| 16:32.33 | jankusanagi_ | what's your problem exactly? can you install it, but not set it as decoration, or you can't even install it? |
| 16:34.28 | jankusanagi_ | theme installed and working here just fine, Mageia 7, Plasma 5.11.x |
| 16:36.32 | endriago | only the decoration of the sales "the different form of the frames" works to me everything else of the subject if it works to me |
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| 16:49.59 | napterk | I have consistently for akonadi a high system load. I also restricted baloosearch to certain folders. But still akonadi slows the system down from time to time... |
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| 16:50.20 | napterk | any idea what could cause that? |
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| 16:59.01 | BluesKaj | napterk, using kmail, kontact etc and baloo can cause high loaing when the file search indexer is active |
| 16:59.15 | BluesKaj | loading |
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| 17:00.12 | napterk | I am using kmail, but for example could lose baloo. |
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| 17:05.08 | BluesKaj | napterk, , be aware that after you boot into ubuntu there are unattended upgrades that run in the background for a few mins shortly after the desktop loads |
| 17:05.22 | lautre[m] | napterk: I alway disable akonadi and other indexing tools. But, I never need to search file by name or.... |
| 17:05.54 | lautre[m] | If you need'nt akonadi... you can stop it |
| 17:06.30 | BluesKaj | napterk, and these upgrades do put quite a load on your cpu at that point |
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| 17:07.41 | BluesKaj | akonadi is needed by the PIM packages |
| 17:10.09 | napterk | I am using kde with arch, which is generally a bit problematic in my experience since it is always on the edge |
| 17:10.31 | napterk | therefore some features are not well embedded yet |
| 17:11.22 | napterk | lautre[m], this indexing is sometimes helpful, especially if you want to search within documents... |
| 17:11.25 | BluesKaj | napterk, that's the common belief but i didn't notice a lot of so called edgy packages on arch when I ran it |
| 17:12.27 | napterk | BluesKaj, okay a common myth, I thought so, cause with Kubunut I didn't experience so much "problems" |
| 17:12.41 | napterk | those minor problems |
| 17:12.49 | napterk | after it runs pretty well |
| 17:12.55 | napterk | after all |
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| 19:37.36 | yann-kaelig | notification from konversation should have the possibility to click on it and send back to the software if the user is working on another virtual desktop |
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| 19:41.45 | jankusanagi_ | you should tell the developers that =) |
| 19:42.44 | yann-kaelig | done |
| 19:42.49 | yann-kaelig | ^^ |
| 19:44.10 | yann-kaelig | but this sort of modification is a part of kde or konversation ? |
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| 22:31.19 | napterk | so i monitored baloo behaviour for a while and it seems like there folders indexed even if they are excluded. Any idea why this happens? |
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| 22:37.16 | jankusanagi_ | maybe that change doesn't take effect until Baloo or Plasma is restarted |
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| 22:38.30 | asturm | someone may update $topic ;) |
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