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| 00:01.29 | SysGhost | No difference. (sudo fc-cache -r ) |
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| 00:05.16 | SysGhost | Whre else can I look to restore unicode functionality? |
| 00:05.31 | Sho_ | what's your font? |
| 00:06.06 | Sho_ | i'd suggest making sure you have the noto families installed as a solid backing |
| 00:06.09 | SysGhost | I've set it to DejaVu Sans in plasma's system settings. and also in Konversation font settings. |
| 00:06.28 | SysGhost | there's a whole bunch of noto fonts installed. |
| 00:06.29 | Sho_ | DejaVu Sans doesn't contain emoji glyphs, so the font stack has to subsitute into something else for them |
| 00:06.35 | Sho_ | that something else needs to be installed, noto is a good bet there |
| 00:06.54 | Sho_ | distros sometimes split up noto in various ways |
| 00:07.01 | Sho_ | there could be a seperate package for the noto emoji font |
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| 00:07.10 | Sho_ | worth checking to be sure |
| 00:07.23 | SysGhost | almost no unicode shows up in kde/plasmaprograms. While in other non plasma/qt/kde programs it works fine. |
| 00:07.53 | SysGhost | suspect missing some important package all ofa sudden, but don't know which |
| 00:08.40 | SysGhost | all noto fonts seems installed. |
| 00:08.55 | SysGhost | even cjk even While I should not need that one() |
| 00:09.29 | oprypin | noto-fonts-emoji is there presumably, it's something else |
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| 00:11.33 | davidebeatrici | Hi |
| 00:11.46 | davidebeatrici | I have two monitors, one connected via DVI and one via HDMI |
| 00:11.52 | davidebeatrici | Intel HD Graphics 4600 |
| 00:12.31 | davidebeatrici | The one connected via HDMI is an AOC G2778V, 1920x1080 75 Hz |
| 00:12.42 | davidebeatrici | The one connected via DVI is a Samsung SyncMaster 2433BW, 1920x1200 60 Hz |
| 00:13.07 | davidebeatrici | In the Screen settings I can choose a maximum of 60 Hz for both monitors |
| 00:13.16 | davidebeatrici | How can I set the AOC to be at 75 Hz? |
| 00:14.46 | SysGhost | davidebeatrici: I guess the AOC one doesn't give x.org a proper EDID configuration. |
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| 00:15.30 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: It's a FreeSync monitor, maybe that's why? |
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| 00:16.14 | SysGhost | could be. See your distribution wiki on how to override the given EDID and force custom modes |
| 00:16.24 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: Debian |
| 00:17.46 | davidebeatrici | I'm going to paste you the output of read-edid |
| 00:17.48 | SysGhost | Sho_: Thanks for pointing me in a direction to correct my font problem. I think I might have a whole lot of font related problems. fc-cache -rv give me a f..kton of errors when ran as normal user. |
| 00:17.48 | davidebeatrici | https://packages.debian.org/buster/read-edid |
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| 00:19.17 | Sho_ | SysGhost: funky ... hope you figure it out, don't really have other ideas :/ |
| 00:19.48 | davidebeatrici | https://pastebin.com/9BhKAtkT |
| 00:20.41 | SysGhost | Sho_: When pacman (Arch package manager) updages/install fonts, fc-cache is ran as root. Google recently split up the noto-font packages into several parts. I suspect mu local users fontcache isn't "up to date" |
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| 00:23.36 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: xrandr --props shows: |
| 00:23.37 | davidebeatrici | 1920x1080 60.00*+ 50.00 59.94 |
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| 00:26.03 | SysGhost | davidebeatrici: This page covers what you might need: https://askubuntu.com/questions/789513/how-to-set-native-resolution-via-xorg-conf-overriding-edid |
| 00:26.13 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: Thank you! |
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| 00:28.16 | SysGhost | One wonder why it is so hard for monitor manufacturer to include proper and full edid information. |
| 00:28.54 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: I did it by adding a new configuration to HDMI-1 using xrandr |
| 00:28.58 | davidebeatrici | 74.91 Hz |
| 00:29.21 | davidebeatrici | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr |
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| 00:33.33 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: For some reason the animations lag |
| 00:33.45 | davidebeatrici | But I can confirm t hat the monitor is set to 75 Hz |
| 00:33.48 | davidebeatrici | *that |
| 00:34.19 | davidebeatrici | Also scrolling on Chromium |
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| 00:38.57 | SysGhost | not tearing then? |
| 00:39.13 | davidebeatrici | Exactly |
| 00:39.42 | SysGhost | weird. forcing modes shouldn't affect performance. |
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| 00:44.08 | SysGhost | ...unless... the two monitors are in different frequencies, where I believe x.org sets the total viewport to 50 hz. That together with vsync and such would case a great drop in rendered frames. Just guessing here based on my own dual head experiences with nVidia. |
| 00:44.32 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: Yes, the other monitor is 60 Hz |
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| 00:44.51 | davidebeatrici | That's what I guesses as well |
| 00:46.52 | SysGhost | turn off vsync and enable the xorg drivers antitear function. (Different depending on gpu manufacturer) |
| 00:48.15 | davidebeatrici | https://www.pcsuggest.com/fix-linux-screen-tearing/ |
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| 00:58.58 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: Same problem :( |
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| 01:01.36 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: OK |
| 01:01.48 | davidebeatrici | I can see smooth only if the refresh rate is set to 50 Hz |
| 01:01.55 | davidebeatrici | Which is what KDE sets if I choose Auto |
| 01:02.04 | davidebeatrici | How can I set everything to be at 60 FPS? |
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| 01:03.46 | SysGhost | try getting both monitors at the exact same frequency. that'll allow the underlying viewport to set its framerate to that value. |
| 01:04.35 | davidebeatrici | Oh, here's why |
| 01:04.38 | SysGhost | Mixing different models and brands of monitors are often hard. Personally I try to stay with a bunch of monitors of the exact same model to avoid these problems. |
| 01:04.43 | davidebeatrici | The other monitor has a maximum of 59.95 Hz |
| 01:05.19 | davidebeatrici | But on my monitor I can set 59.94 |
| 01:05.19 | davidebeatrici | ... |
| 01:05.25 | davidebeatrici | Guess I will set the other to 60 |
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| 01:30.47 | davidebeatrici | SysGhost: OK |
| 01:30.50 | davidebeatrici | It works fine |
| 01:31.06 | davidebeatrici | However, sometimes it drops some frames |
| 01:31.15 | davidebeatrici | I don't know what could cause it |
| 01:32.42 | davidebeatrici | It does it on both monitors |
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| 11:17.55 | qwip | Hi! I have just installed kde plasma on ubuntu. I am not able to drag and re-position desktop icons and also not able to mark select on desktop (like in windows) |
| 11:20.13 | qwip | How can I enable it? ^ |
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| 11:31.53 | nickbnf | qwip: unlock widgets |
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| 11:32.27 | eraserpencil | I'm on ubuntu trying out kmail and the suite of apps but I cant seem to reset my kdewallet password |
| 11:32.49 | eraserpencil | I've followed instructions online, but I cant find the kdewallet app |
| 11:33.25 | qwip | nickbnf, they are already unlocked |
| 11:33.28 | nickbnf | eraserpencil: kwalletmanager |
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| 11:34.00 | nickbnf | qwip: and you have a folder desktop mode? |
| 11:34.23 | qwip | nickbnf, what is that? (i am using kde plasma for the first time) |
| 11:34.32 | eraserpencil | it's not showing up in unity dash |
| 11:35.04 | nickbnf | qwip: right click on a desktop -> Wallpaper -> Layout == Folder View |
| 11:35.16 | nickbnf | eraserpencil: kwallet in unity? lol |
| 11:35.54 | qwip | nickbnf, ahh. it was on desktop layout. changed it |
| 11:36.23 | eraserpencil | yea no such software. would I have to download it from the software centre? |
| 11:36.26 | nickbnf | qwip: you are welcome |
| 11:36.54 | nickbnf | eraserpencil: have never used ubuntu, so no idea, but you need a kwallet manager |
| 11:36.56 | eraserpencil | that dosent make sense cause kwallet prompts for my password on kmail launch |
| 11:37.14 | nickbnf | eraserpencil: korrect, kmail using kwallet manager |
| 11:37.24 | qwip | nickbnf, thanks :) how can i add my terminal in the options that appear when i right click on desktop? |
| 11:38.05 | nickbnf | qwip: lol, have no idea, I am mostly using Alt+F2 to launch programms |
| 11:38.19 | nickbnf | qwip: or simply pinning programms to a task bar |
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| 11:39.14 | qwip | nickbnf, when i try to search gnome-terminal or simply terminal in Alt+F2 search bar then it is not showing me gnome-terminal as a option |
| 11:39.46 | eraserpencil | so whilst I am lacking the gui app, there must be a daemon running somewhere in the background for that prompt |
| 11:39.54 | eraserpencil | but I dont see that in terminal |
| 11:40.28 | nickbnf | qwip: it showing you installed apps lol |
| 11:40.55 | nickbnf | eraserpencil: if there is no gui app in ubuntu, fill a bug in ubuntu bug tracker then |
| 11:40.57 | qwip | nickbnf, clearify. |
| 11:41.04 | eraserpencil | kk |
| 11:41.10 | nickbnf | eraserpencil: there must be a kwallet manager some here in repo |
| 11:41.13 | eraserpencil | let me ask the #ubuntu guys |
| 11:41.14 | qwip | nickbnf, gnome-terminal is already installed |
| 11:41.49 | nickbnf | qwip: lol, have no idea. just curious why do you want to use gnome-terkinal if there is a konsole? |
| 11:42.12 | qwip | nickbnf, it does'nt looks nice ;) |
| 11:42.27 | nickbnf | qwip: then why do you want to use KDE at all? |
| 11:43.36 | qwip | nickbnf, I think you misunderstood me. I am saying that I do not like konsole style and that's why i want to use gnome-terminal |
| 11:43.47 | romangg | qwip: for a first time user it's better to install Neon, Kubuntu or another distro geared towards Plasma instead of installing packages over standard ubuntu. |
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| 11:46.31 | nickbnf | qwip: or OpenSUSE for example |
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| 11:46.41 | nickbnf | qwip: or Fedora KDE spin |
| 11:46.41 | qwip | romangg, I have installed kubuntu after installing ubuntu |
| 11:47.04 | nickbnf | qwip: *buntu buggy adventure :) |
| 11:47.24 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
| 11:47.43 | qwip | Hey BluesKaj! |
| 11:47.50 | nickbnf | hello |
| 11:47.51 | qwip | Thanks for your help yesterday |
| 11:49.09 | BluesKaj | hi qwip, ok , not sure who you are , unless you used a different nick |
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| 11:51.29 | qwip | BluesKaj, yeah. was using a different nick probably. my download of kubuntu got stuck on 56%, remember? |
| 11:51.40 | BluesKaj | ok |
| 11:52.54 | qwip | How can I add a application shortcut standard menu which appears when you right click on desktop? BluesKaj |
| 11:53.37 | BluesKaj | qwip, did you manage to change repos and finish the kubuntu-desktop install |
| 11:54.33 | qwip | yeah. installed it sucessfully. BluesKaj |
| 11:54.41 | kishore96 | If you have a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or .local/share/applications, it should appear there. |
| 11:55.10 | kishore96 | You mean in the application menu thing, right? |
| 11:55.20 | BluesKaj | qwip, you van add quick lauanch to the panel and add your favorite apps there |
| 11:55.58 | kishore96 | Or configure desktop > mouse actions and bind one of the buttons to 'application menu'. |
| 11:55.58 | BluesKaj | van=can |
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| 11:57.15 | qwip | kishore96, checked that settings but not ablle to add anything to standard menu there |
| 11:57.53 | qwip | BluesKaj, yeah. i know that. but i want it to appear in standard menu which appears on right click |
| 11:59.02 | BluesKaj | qwip, dunno, never tried that I just add to favorites in kmenu |
| 11:59.40 | qwip | BluesKaj, can you help me with this: when i try to search gnome-terminal or simply terminal in Alt+F2 search bar then it is not showing me gnome-terminal as a option |
| 11:59.50 | BluesKaj | or quicklaunch ...never hear of adding them to the contex tmenu |
| 12:00.39 | BluesKaj | use the konsole it's the same as the gnome termina;l |
| 12:01.07 | qwip | BluesKaj, thats not answer to my question :) |
| 12:01.36 | BluesKaj | I don't use gnome |
| 12:01.59 | qwip | okay |
| 12:02.04 | BluesKaj | a termenal is a terminal |
| 12:02.12 | BluesKaj | ;-) |
| 12:02.59 | qwip | BluesKaj, not actually! People have different needs. They are using some specific terminals from many years |
| 12:03.06 | qwip | like termite |
| 12:05.31 | BluesKaj | then install gnome terminal |
| 12:06.52 | qwip | i already have it installed |
| 12:07.10 | qwip | that is the problem. i have it installed but the search is not showing it |
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| 12:08.39 | BluesKaj | search it as gnome-terminal |
| 12:08.55 | qwip | tried it. no good |
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| 12:10.08 | nickbnf | qwip: can you expalin what is the difference between gnome-terminal and konsole if both are simply forwarding system shell? |
| 12:10.30 | Verge | Konsole is for KDE |
| 12:10.45 | asturm | Verge: by KDE |
| 12:10.59 | Verge | And *for* KDE |
| 12:11.07 | asturm | Plasma, yes |
| 12:11.13 | asturm | or any other DE |
| 12:11.15 | qwip | nickbnf, i don't know. never used konsole |
| 12:11.19 | Verge | It pulls in a ton of KDE deps with it and follows only KDE theming etc. |
| 12:11.23 | nickbnf | Verge: it is just a terminal |
| 12:11.34 | Verge | Well, actually it doesn't pull in deps, sorry |
| 12:11.38 | Verge | 8 MB seemingly |
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| 12:11.59 | BluesKaj | I don't think there's any difference , but he claims there is |
| 12:12.36 | Verge | Nope, it does, I just had them installed already |
| 12:12.45 | Verge | 200 MB of deps to install a terminal emulator |
| 12:12.45 | nickbnf | BluesKaj: exactly, and it is a simply duck illness |
| 12:13.03 | nickbnf | Verge: He has already Plasma 5 installed so relax |
| 12:13.17 | Verge | ah |
| 12:13.22 | asturm | yeah. |
| 12:13.22 | Verge | oh, we're at #kde |
| 12:13.22 | qwip | BluesKaj, Can you please quote my message in which I said that there is a difference in "Konsole" and "gnome-terminal" |
| 12:13.24 | Verge | lol |
| 12:13.31 | Verge | I thought #gnome |
| 12:13.47 | Verge | I forget I'm still here |
| 12:14.30 | nickbnf | qwip: you are saying this in near each message |
| 12:14.35 | nickbnf | Verge: kek |
| 12:14.42 | BluesKaj | qwip, scroolup and copy it yourself |
| 12:15.08 | nickbnf | Verge: hello from a KDe worls to a world of a monochrome icons and no customization :) |
| 12:15.14 | qwip | BluesKaj, can't you guys find it? Becasue it is in your minds and you people assumed it yourself |
| 12:16.03 | nickbnf | [13:02] <qwip> BluesKaj, not actually! People have different needs. They are using some specific terminals from many years |
| 12:16.04 | nickbnf | [13:03] <qwip> like termite |
| 12:16.52 | nickbnf | qwip: "some specific terminal" pobably with some specific language, layout and rainbow unicorns |
| 12:16.52 | qwip | nickbnf, yeah. exactly. how does it mean that I am saying that "konsole" is different from "gnome-terminal" |
| 12:17.20 | BluesKaj | gnome -terminal is exactly the same as the kde/plasma konsole in my experience . I've used both , qwip |
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| 12:17.30 | nickbnf | qwip: it does not matter what terminal programm you are using, but insted a shell makes a difference |
| 12:17.42 | nickbnf | qwip: bash, zsh, etc |
| 12:18.04 | nickbnf | qwip: all this GUI terminals are only forwarding a system shell |
| 12:18.08 | nickbnf | qwip: nothing more |
| 12:18.23 | nickbnf | qwip: so, you have a special shell in your system, yes |
| 12:18.37 | nickbnf | qwip: but not really a special GUI terminal |
| 12:18.40 | qwip | BluesKaj, the issue was not about that are they both different or which one is better. but was that why isn't gnome-terminal is shwoing up in search |
| 12:19.00 | qwip | nickbnf, can you see a difference b/w termite and konsole? |
| 12:19.20 | nickbnf | qwip: then it is probably an issue of gnome-terminal in ignoring open desktop standard.... |
| 12:19.28 | Verge | Doesn't the search under KDE show you something like 'Terminal' for both apps, gnome-terminal and konsole |
| 12:19.42 | nickbnf | qwip: it does not really matter what GUI forwarder you are using |
| 12:19.42 | BluesKaj | qwip, this is asilly sebate, I'm no longer participating |
| 12:19.45 | qwip | No,it does'nt. Verge |
| 12:19.51 | BluesKaj | debate |
| 12:20.22 | qwip | BluesKaj, you guys just made it a debate about which is better than another |
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| 12:20.46 | BluesKaj | I did not |
| 12:20.53 | qwip | nickbnf, i think you have never used termite at all and that is why you are saying this |
| 12:21.03 | nickbnf | qwip: wrong, we are just telling you, that there is no difference |
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| 12:21.43 | qwip | nickbnf, i was not asking you guys if both are different or not |
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| 12:21.58 | qwip | you guys just seem to force KDE products |
| 12:22.10 | qwip | tools* |
| 12:22.11 | Verge | Konsole has better graphical emoji support 😉 |
| 12:22.20 | mueslo | hey, i'm having an issue with kwallet. I use my gpg key to encrypt my wallet. However, for a while now I've not been able to commit changes to the wallet "error 53: unusable public key". I've noticed that my pgp key in kgpg doesn't have 'encryption' in its capabilities anymore (I did create it that way). Any ideas how to fix? |
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| 12:22.48 | mueslo | to clarify: I did create it with encryption capability, but that has now disappeared |
| 12:23.01 | nickbnf | qwip: if gnome-terminal ignoring open desktop standars in some way, or it is simply wrong compile in one concrete distro, there is not much plasma can do about it |
| 12:23.26 | nickbnf | qwc: you can amnually edit a kde app menu and add a definition of gnome-terminal |
| 12:23.37 | nickbnf | qwc: then it will be shown in fast launch |
| 12:24.18 | nickbnf | mueslo: hm, what distro you are using? |
| 12:24.35 | mueslo | nickbnf: arch linux |
| 12:24.51 | nickbnf | mueslo: looks like for some reason first you have setup kwallet with gpg encryption, but then it was removed froma build for some reason... |
| 12:25.04 | nickbnf | mueslo: interresting.. |
| 12:25.24 | nickbnf | mueslo: one sec will look at my own kwallet config (fedora here) |
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| 12:25.54 | mueslo | thanks :) |
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| 12:32.34 | mueslo | nickbnf: it seems my subkeys in gpg are gone, you need those for encryption, right? |
| 12:32.49 | nickbnf | mueslo: I can remember that earlier it was really possible to use GPG encryption, but now I can not found this option any more... |
| 12:33.30 | nickbnf | mueslo: actually you only need you private and public gpg key's |
| 12:33.36 | mueslo | nickbnf: gpg also does not list my private keypair with encryption capability so it does not actually seem related to kde |
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| 12:34.06 | nickbnf | mueslo: you are right, but still I am wondering about this option... this was a really good question :) |
| 12:35.30 | nickbnf | mueslo: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193831 |
| 12:35.53 | nickbnf | mueslo: hm probably it was a feature from kde 4 that is still not fully ported to kf5 |
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| 12:37.03 | mueslo | then my wallet must date from kde 4 days, i thought I recreated it sometime in the last 2 years, interesting |
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| 12:37.58 | nickbnf | mueslo: actually it can be just a compilation issue |
| 12:38.17 | nickbnf | mueslo: one need to enable GPG support by kwallet manager, so simple it is... |
| 12:38.27 | nickbnf | mueslo: really thcx for your question |
| 12:38.30 | mueslo | i'm testing my subkey theory now, i'll report back if that's the cause |
| 12:39.36 | nickbnf | mueslo: sounds like a Big Bang theory |
| 12:41.37 | mueslo | if I open my key for editing, there is a subkey for encryption, which is *not* expired... |
| 12:41.47 | mueslo | seems gpg is at least doing something strange too |
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| 12:42.09 | mueslo | oh wait |
| 12:42.13 | mueslo | it *is* 2018 |
| 12:42.18 | mueslo | yeah, my subkey expired 4 days ago |
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| 12:42.27 | asturm | :) |
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| 12:43.43 | nickbnf | mueslo: Happy New Year! |
| 12:44.39 | mueslo | haha, thanks |
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| 12:50.07 | nickbnf | mueslo: have found a "kf5-gpgmepp" package in my distro... will try to restart a session to see if now I have a gpg support back |
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| 12:50.33 | asturm | noo not that |
| 12:50.47 | asturm | well, unless really old packages |
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| 12:55.09 | nickbnf | mueslo: still no gpg option |
| 12:55.31 | nickbnf | did current kf5 kwallet managet supports GPG encryption? |
| 12:55.48 | oprypin | yes |
| 12:56.09 | nickbnf | oprypin: but it must be compuled with gpgmepp support? |
| 12:56.31 | nickbnf | oprypin: then there will a gpg option avaliable at a creation time? |
| 12:56.31 | oprypin | i don't know any of that |
| 12:56.44 | asturm | nickbnf: yes, but kf5-gpgmepp is long obsolete |
| 12:56.47 | oprypin | i just know that i have such an option, never used it |
| 12:56.47 | nickbnf | oprypin: you are probably using opensuse.. |
| 12:56.54 | oprypin | wut |
| 12:56.55 | thiago | my wallet is gpg-encrypted |
| 12:57.13 | asturm | nickbnf: kf5gpgmepp went into gpgme upstream |
| 12:58.25 | nickbnf | asturm: thx for info... I can not fund any way to create a gpg encrypted wallet |
| 12:58.43 | nickbnf | asturm: any tipp about missing compile flag or so? |
| 12:59.21 | nickbnf | asturm: I am using fedora, and can fill a bug about this feature, but it would be handy to know what is probably missing, to get it fixed faster... |
| 13:00.06 | asturm | nickbnf: kwallet needs to be built with Gpgmepp |
| 13:00.41 | asturm | which exists if gpgme-1.7.1 was built with [cxx,qt5] support |
| 13:00.51 | asturm | >=gpgme-1.7.1 that is |
| 13:01.17 | nickbnf | asturm: gpgmepp 1.9.0 here.. |
| 13:01.29 | nickbnf | there is also a qgpgmepp binding... |
| 13:01.36 | nickbnf | it is also obsoleted? |
| 13:01.48 | asturm | they may call it like that if they have split packaging |
| 13:02.27 | asturm | so qgpgmepp may translate to gpgme[qt5] but I can not know |
| 13:02.31 | nickbnf | asturm: thank you wery much |
| 13:03.04 | nickbnf | asturm: looks likekwallet was compiled in a wrong way in fedora... |
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| 13:03.39 | nickbnf | asturm: so if one will recompile kwallet properly, there will be a gpg option as new wallet creation dialog? |
| 13:03.50 | asturm | yes |
| 13:04.45 | nickbnf | asturm: thank you wery much for your support! Then I will filla a bug report in a Fedora bugtracker |
| 13:05.25 | asturm | yw |
| 13:05.57 | nickbnf | asturm: ah, a dumb question , is there is any way to see a build flags of a compiled kwallet, any like verbose info about enabled fatures? |
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| 13:07.29 | nickbnf | asturm: probably witha help of hex editor or so |
| 13:07.31 | asturm | nickbnf: you can check if /usr/lib64/libkwalletbackend5.so.5 links to libgpgmepp.so |
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| 13:08.37 | nickbnf | asturm: thank you once again |
| 13:10.09 | mueslo | it doesn't appear to require a direct build flag, e.g. on arch, the pkgbuild for kwallet is https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/kwallet&id=f6ba5c407181b8e783aa94227059be3f698a36d3 |
| 13:10.27 | mueslo | which doesn't mention gpgme in the build, but has gpgme as dependency |
| 13:10.28 | asturm | yeah it doesn't, it just requires not to be disabled (and gpgmepp to be present) |
| 13:10.44 | asturm | it is an automagic dependency, if it is there, it will be built with support |
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| 13:13.11 | nickbnf | ldd /usr/lib64/libkwalletbackend5.so.5 | grep gpg |
| 13:13.12 | nickbnf | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.24 | nickbnf | hm, so probably gpg support was simply disabled |
| 13:13.40 | nickbnf | If I am interpreting this out put correctly |
| 13:15.31 | mueslo | appears that way, I have links to libgpgme.so and libgpgmepp.so in that file |
| 13:16.17 | nickbnf | mueslo: roger that, then it is obviously build bug on a fedora side |
| 13:16.28 | nickbnf | mueslo: will will a bug report today |
| 13:17.22 | nickbnf | sed s/will/fill |
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| 13:17.51 | asturm | file? |
| 13:18.14 | nickbnf | asturm: file? |
| 13:19.02 | nickbnf | asturm: what do you mean? |
| 13:19.03 | asturm | to file a bug - filing a bug |
| 13:19.19 | nickbnf | asturm: ah, thank you for correction |
| 13:19.26 | nickbnf | :) not a native speaker here |
| 13:19.55 | asturm | me neither ;) |
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| 13:25.33 | mueslo | nickbnf: * Wed Jan 03 2018 Rex Dieter <rdieter@fedoraproject.org> - 5.41.0-2 |
| 13:25.33 | mueslo | - cosmetics, fix gpgme support |
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| 13:26.36 | mueslo | or do you have at least that version? |
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| 13:32.51 | nickbnf | one sec will check it out |
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| 13:34.53 | nickbnf | mueslo: kf5-kwallet-5.41.0-1.fc27 |
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| 13:35.23 | nickbnf | mueslo: so probably I should try 5.41.0-2 first then |
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| 13:37.48 | nickbnf | mueslo: where have you found this info from rdieter? |
| 13:38.27 | nickbnf | mueslo: direct in bodhi? |
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| 13:42.11 | nickbnf | mueslo: have already found it in a rawhide compose report |
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| 15:47.44 | wyvern | On gentoo's plasma 5.10, system settings > displays doesn't actually change anything when I rearrange/rotate the monitor configuration. When I click apply, the monitor layout icons just snap back to the way they were, and the actual monitor config doesn't change. How can I go about debugging why this is? |
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| 15:48.59 | wyvern | Is there a log file I can look in, or specific settings files I should blow away? |
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| 16:48.32 | markong | is there any GUI File Manager which supports copying files along with their attributes (stat()) ? I'm looking at Dolphin, Krusader but I can't find anything related... |
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| 17:14.59 | wawawawaw | hey guys, can someone help me out with kde connect? I need to share files between two pcs, can I use this? |
| 17:16.07 | wawawawaw | it works between manjaro kde and android but i cannot do this between laptop nad desktop pcs... |
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| 17:17.23 | Snowhog | wawawawaw: Are both PCs running Linux? And if 'yes', what flavors of Linux? |
| 17:21.06 | wawawawaw | both are on Manjaro |
| 17:21.16 | wawawawaw | which is Arch |
| 17:21.28 | wawawawaw | plasma 5.11.2 |
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| 17:30.16 | Snowhog | wawawawaw: See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NFS |
| 17:32.41 | oprypin | no, don't see that |
| 17:32.43 | oprypin | SFTP |
| 17:33.17 | markong | erhmm...I probably should specify: I'm interested in preserve file ctime,atime etc... after the copy/move, but with A GUI fm... |
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| 17:38.11 | wawawawaw | I noticed that sftp is ticked in options in Connect |
| 17:38.11 | wawawawaw | let me check laptop as well |
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| 17:42.39 | wawawawaw | both computers have that enabled as well as "send and receive files" option |
| 17:43.00 | wawawawaw | yet i have yhe option to send files to Android only |
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| 17:50.51 | Snowhog | wawawawaw: KDE Connect isn't for sharing between two PCs. It's designed to allow sharing between Android cell phones and your PC. |
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| 18:06.26 | nickbnf | wawawawaw: use nextcloud |
| 18:06.34 | nickbnf | wawawawaw: install your own instance |
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| 18:06.47 | nickbnf | wawawawaw: nextcloud has a great kde compatible client |
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| 18:13.36 | wawawawaw | ok, thanks. I will also try samba shares |
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| 18:17.25 | oprypin | are you serious right now |
| 18:17.39 | oprypin | wawawawaw, please just use SFTP |
| 18:17.57 | oprypin | sftp://hostname in dolphin |
| 18:18.14 | Snowhog | wawawawaw: Samba shares is for sharing between Windows and Linux. |
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| 18:27.27 | Research | any idea why no thumbnails are displayed in my task switcher which is set to breeze ? |
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| 18:27.56 | Research | the preview button shows them but all that's displayed in practice are icons |
| 18:28.03 | Research | which aren't even consistently sized O_o |
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| 18:28.21 | Research | maybe there's a setting somewhere which I missed or an update broke the theme ? |
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| 18:39.43 | qwc | nickbnf: wtf? |
| 18:39.53 | nickbnf | qwc: ? |
| 18:40.15 | qwc | you highlighted me |
| 18:40.26 | nickbnf | qwc: what? |
| 18:40.39 | qwc | <#kde:nickbnf> qwc: you can amnually edit a kde app menu and add a definition of gnome-terminal |
| 18:40.39 | qwc | <#kde:nickbnf> qwc: then it will be shown in fast launch |
| 18:40.42 | nickbnf | qwc: what are you talking about? |
| 18:41.22 | nickbnf | qwc: it was your question about geting buggy gnome-terminal in a kde launcher |
| 18:41.35 | qwc | i've never asked such question! |
| 18:42.08 | nickbnf | qwc: you asked why you can not see gnome-terminal using kde Alt + F2 |
| 18:42.20 | qwc | nope |
| 18:43.14 | nickbnf | qwc: lol it was qwip |
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| 18:43.22 | qwc | wtf ... lol |
| 18:43.32 | qwc | okay |
| 18:43.46 | nickbnf | qwc: I suppose that using hex insted of nickname would be even a better idea :) |
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| 18:43.48 | qwc | my quassel saves only highlighting not the whole conversation ;) |
| 18:44.31 | nickbnf | qwc: it is sime kinf od BNC? |
| 18:44.35 | nickbnf | *kind |
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| 18:46.54 | qwc | no, quassel is a server client application ... you can use it locally, as one application or you have a quasselcore installed somewhere with a database in the background which runs just forever und you only connect with your quassel-client |
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| 18:49.02 | nickbnf | qwc: such kind of a caching IFC proxy |
| 18:49.11 | nickbnf | IRC |
| 18:49.14 | qwc | yup |
| 18:49.26 | nickbnf | qwc: riger that |
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| 18:49.46 | nickbnf | qwc: will look at this quassel |
| 18:49.48 | qwc | you can save the whole conversation of all channels you're in ... but in one year i got something around 2 or 3GB of text... tooo much |
| 18:50.06 | qwc | oh btw. quasselcore is also multiuser capable |
| 18:50.15 | nickbnf | qwc: I am right now playing around with ZNC |
| 18:50.21 | qwc | so you can have one instance for serveral users |
| 18:50.45 | nickbnf | qwc: will compare them, to see what solution is better for my use case |
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| 18:51.26 | nickbnf | with your short nickname and saving only higlited messagies, you are probably getting mess in your log :) |
| 18:51.30 | qwc | let me know when you've chosen a solution and the reasons behind it (im just curious) :) |
| 18:51.51 | qwc | well nickbnf it's the first time this happened |
| 18:52.04 | nickbnf | qwc: wil tell you, and besids qwc is easy to memorize :9 |
| 18:52.27 | qwc | in around ... well ... i'm using this since a minimum of 5 or 7 years, cant remember really :D |
| 18:53.04 | nickbnf | qwc: problem is, if you are actively using tab, some times shit happened |
| 18:53.22 | qwc | tab ? |
| 18:53.35 | nickbnf | qwc: tabulator key |
| 18:53.44 | nickbnf | <- |
| 18:53.45 | qwc | ah of course :D |
| 18:53.48 | nickbnf | -> |
| 18:53.53 | nickbnf | yea |
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| 18:54.24 | nickbnf | it is comfortable but some times you a picking up a wrong person |
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| 18:55.12 | qwc | well, you have to read over your writing before hitting return |
| 18:55.18 | qwc | :) |
| 18:55.36 | nickbnf | qwc: some times you are just to lazy |
| 18:56.10 | nickbnf | qwc: and in a combination of Tab + brillian lenovo chicklet shit some times it goes funny |
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| 19:22.16 | mm0 | Hello! After every reboot the icons show up on the left side of the top panel and i have to manually move the systray icons to the right. How could i fix it so that they will always stay on the right of the top panel? I tried with "lock widgets" but after reboot they will appear on the left againn. Can someone please help me? |
| 19:22.18 | mm0 | https://unsee.cc/64be5934/ |
| 19:28.29 | rindolf | mm0: hi |
| 19:28.56 | mm0 | hi rindolf |
| 19:29.18 | rindolf | mm0: the home dir permissions are ok, right? |
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| 19:39.33 | mm0 | Hmm, i'm not completely sure honestly. Maybe i should make a hook on "Only owner can rename and delete folder content"? |
| 19:39.33 | mm0 | https://unsee.cc/4aaeee30/ |
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| 19:59.41 | mm0 | @rindolf, do u have any ideas? |
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| 20:00.54 | rindolf | mm0: no, seems fine |
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| 20:07.04 | mm0 | "Only owner can rename and delete folder content" didn't make any change |
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| 20:15.29 | Research | Does someone at least know which package the task switcher breeze theme is from so I can try reinstalling it ? |
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| 21:04.21 | Juan | Is there a way to change desktop defaults to all users? Tried the skel approach with the plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc file but I think the cointainment number isn't permament |
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| 21:13.04 | Juan | This is what I found on the subject https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/Modify_KDE_Software_Defaults |
| 21:13.12 | Juan | is there anything more in depth? |
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| 21:20.46 | Moult | Research: that depends on your distribution |
| 21:21.08 | Research | Moult, arch |
| 21:21.39 | Moult | Research: then try the arch channel |
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| 21:23.04 | Research | I guess - the reason I was asking here in the first place was since I was curious if this is a bug |
| 21:23.20 | Research | or just a feature |
| 21:24.06 | Research | in which case reinstalling probably wouldn't help anyway unless I wipe all of the configs |
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| 21:33.35 | asturm | Research: reinstall rarely solves anything |
| 21:33.56 | Research | except for when it does |
| 21:33.57 | asturm | Research: you can try with a clean test user |
| 21:34.03 | asturm | because that's where your configs are |
| 21:34.27 | Research | well I installed arch with kde on another machine recently |
| 21:34.27 | asturm | Research: if it does, then you should be concerned about your data integrity |
| 21:35.07 | Research | and I noticed on both machines typing into the settings search sometimes causes settings to close or crash |
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| 21:36.19 | asturm | Research: it could be a qt-5.10.0 regression |
| 21:36.32 | asturm | arch is one of the first to jump the gun on that, and issues are expected |
| 21:37.00 | Research | yeah there are always a few bugs here and there |
| 21:37.08 | asturm | Research: what settings search do you mean? |
| 21:37.12 | Research | usually doesn't affect me much |
| 21:37.20 | asturm | systemsettings? |
| 21:37.23 | Research | yup |
| 21:37.34 | Research | that has a search box |
| 21:38.35 | Research | actually accept for the task switcher strangeness I'm only getting on this machine |
| 21:38.54 | Research | the only other really annoying issue I have on both is that network manager fails connecting on boot |
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| 21:39.11 | Research | with the "no secret provided" message |
| 21:39.22 | Research | disconnecting and connecting manually works fine |
| 21:39.54 | Research | looking at dmesg it looks like it tries to connect before the wireless device is ready |
| 21:40.38 | Research | might be out of scope here though since iirc the only part of kde is the networkmanager frontend |
| 21:41.31 | Research | not sure which part is actually responsible for requesting a new connection |
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