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| 04:49.39 | vvande | Is the number of desktops managed by plasma? |
| 04:49.58 | vvande | or is it a function provided by kde itself |
| 04:53.26 | thiago | technically speaking, kwin does it |
| 04:54.01 | thiago | since kwin is the Plasma Desktop's window manager... |
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| 04:59.37 | vvande | thanks thiago |
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| 06:42.36 | vvande | is it safe to try "kwin --replace" ? |
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| 06:45.31 | thiago | vvande: kwin_x11 --replace |
| 06:46.19 | vvande | thanks |
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| 07:25.15 | codebrainz | hi. is there a way to make windows open on my primary monitor (the one with the panel)? I'm aware of "active screen follows mouse", but I mean I always want windows to always open on the screen in from of me no matter where my mouse pointer is. |
| 07:25.33 | hateball | codebrainz: you can set a kwin rule that forces it |
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| 07:28.44 | codebrainz | hateball: seems to work, thanks! |
| 07:29.52 | hateball | codebrainz: :) |
| 07:30.00 | codebrainz | is there a way to get the main/applications menu (on the panel) to remember the size I set? |
| 07:30.13 | codebrainz | when i reboot it shrinks back to original (too small) height |
| 07:30.24 | hateball | iirc it is a bug that you can resize it in the first place |
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| 07:30.39 | hateball | I remember seeing a discussion in #plasma |
| 07:30.59 | codebrainz | heh. I actually stopped using KDE for a time because of not being able to resize it :) |
| 07:31.12 | codebrainz | doing it once per login isn't terrible |
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| 08:53.06 | qqz | Hi; as I can disable desktop effects with Alt-Shift-F12 how can I achieve this setting permanently via a menu? |
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| 08:55.11 | qqz | is it the switchbox "activate compositor at startup" |
| 08:55.17 | qqz | ? |
| 08:55.35 | x2s | Hi |
| 08:55.43 | x2s | it is possible somehow, let me check |
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| 08:58.53 | x2s | uh, I don't have that option anywhere. What version are you running? I can only disable single desktop effects |
| 09:00.35 | x2s | or maybe it got lost in translation |
| 09:03.56 | qqz | kdelibs5-data 4:4.14.26-2 |
| 09:04.08 | qqz | is that the correct version? |
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| 09:05.04 | qqz | KDE Frameworks 5.28.0 - says console help |
| 09:05.36 | qqz | there needs to be a possibility to disable desktop effects in the menu |
| 09:06.26 | x2s | ok, lets try a different approach: Where do you have to click to get to the option "activate compositor at startup"? |
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| 09:07.03 | Mayzie | What's the problem? |
| 09:07.32 | x2s | qqz want's to disable all desktop effects |
| 09:07.40 | x2s | and I know it's possible, but I don't know where it was |
| 09:07.56 | qqz | window menu -> more actions -> settings for window organization -> compositor |
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| 09:08.36 | qqz | it is the window menu at the upper left corner of the title bar |
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| 09:09.39 | x2s | Ah, finally I could find it also in the settings. It hides in the monitor settings menu |
| 09:09.51 | x2s | yeah, that should be the option to disable almost all effects |
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| 09:16.33 | qqz | back again; my irc client had some connection problems |
| 09:16.55 | qqz | anyone knows how I can disable desktop effects permanently via the menu? |
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| 09:18.44 | qqz | I will just disable compositor if nobody can give me an answer for now |
| 09:18.58 | qqz | - and quit my irc client |
| 09:19.09 | qqz | anyone here who can help? |
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| 10:29.42 | impi | hi hi |
| 10:30.11 | impi | i installed kde plasma 5.8.8 over the weekend, and i am trying to get my global application menu setup |
| 10:30.30 | Mayzie | 5.8.8? |
| 10:30.37 | impi | yep |
| 10:31.12 | impi | lts plasmashell 5.8.8 |
| 10:31.50 | impi | what i am looking for is the application menu in the active window control widget |
| 10:31.55 | impi | not sure if this is possible |
| 10:32.47 | jankusanagi_ | it is; not sure if it was already done in Plasma 5.8, but it certainly was done by 5.11 |
| 10:33.32 | jankusanagi_ | there's the option to "export the menu" on one side, and then you need to add the "global menu" plasmoid wherever you want |
| 10:34.03 | impi | oh that's good to know, do you perhaps have a url that can help me get kde 5.11 on 16.04 ubuntu? if that is possible? |
| 10:34.38 | leszek | impi: simply use kde neon which is ubuntu lts based and offers 5.11.4 |
| 10:35.46 | impi | thanks for that |
| 10:35.53 | impi | let me google how to get that setup |
| 10:35.59 | impi | thanks for the advice, appreciate it! |
| 10:36.17 | jankusanagi_ | in any case, I didn't say it's not available in Plasma 5.8 though |
| 10:37.44 | impi | understood, i also thought it was but i cant find it, and if i add a panel, i only have the 2 panel options, not the global applications one |
| 10:37.48 | armin | leszek: suggesting changing the distribution in use because a user wants to customize an application menu seems a bit like breaking the fly on a wheel. |
| 10:37.54 | impi | anyways, let me upgrade to the latest and greatest |
| 10:38.23 | jankusanagi_ | you don't need a whole "panel preset" to add the global menu plasmoid whenever you want |
| 10:39.45 | leszek | 5.8 has no global menu support as far as I am awayre |
| 10:39.48 | leszek | +aware |
| 10:40.07 | impi | jankusanagi_: thanks for the tip, im brutally new to kde, and at the risk of sounding like a complete n00b i have no idea what you mean by "there's the option to "export the menu" on one side, and then you need to add the "global menu" plasmoid wherever you want" |
| 10:40.19 | leszek | armin: he asked about getting 5.11 on ubuntu 16.04 thats why I suggested kde neon |
| 10:41.18 | impi | it's 100% thanks for the advice, all of it was good |
| 10:41.24 | leszek | global menu btw. was added in Plasma 5.9 |
| 10:41.26 | impi | no one did anything wrong here, thanks again |
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| 10:42.10 | leszek | impi: you can take a look at some plasma release/test/review videos that talk about global menu. They pretty much show you how to get it. Just like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha9_aOo8CKM |
| 10:44.00 | armin | leszek: ah, fair enough. good advise then, actually. |
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| 10:55.09 | impi | leszek: thank you very much for that link <# |
| 10:55.12 | impi | <3 |
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| 10:59.31 | impi | stupid question |
| 10:59.41 | impi | but whats the difference between kde neon, and kde plasma? |
| 10:59.53 | impi | are they the same thing? |
| 11:00.26 | leszek | impi: kde plasma is a desktop environment |
| 11:01.04 | leszek | kde neon is a like a packaging infrastructure for a distro so you can try out the latest and greatest plasma desktop release |
| 11:01.55 | leszek | for a specific distro in that case which is ubuntu 16.04. So basically kde neon takes ubuntu 16.04 as a base and puts plasma desktop, kde frameworks, kde applications and qt on top |
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| 11:04.41 | impi | oh i see |
| 11:05.50 | impi | i get these errors when trying to install kde 5.11 |
| 11:05.51 | impi | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e903b5211d8fd5ff1402f1390826d53a |
| 11:06.08 | impi | do you perhaps know how i can get passed them? |
| 11:10.02 | impi | lemme try something quick |
| 11:10.11 | ltosky[m] | you are mixing too many repositories |
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| 11:10.52 | ltosky[m] | Kubuntu and neon at the same time |
| 11:10.57 | ltosky[m] | It's probably easier to upgrade to a newer ubuntu |
| 11:11.59 | armin | leszek: btw that's another good example of how your suggestion actually might be the better way... |
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| 11:13.25 | leszek | yep |
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| 11:15.13 | impi | that could very well be true, |
| 11:15.20 | impi | lemme remove the plasma repo |
| 11:17.33 | impi | yikes |
| 11:17.43 | impi | ok guys, and girls, sorry for this but im tapping out |
| 11:18.02 | impi | i just upgraded ubuntu from 14.04 over the weekend, to 16.04 and then moved away from unity, to kde |
| 11:18.14 | impi | im going to go without the global applications menu for a bit |
| 11:18.23 | tomaz | 16.04? |
| 11:18.35 | impi | thank you very much for the help and sorry for my hesitance :) |
| 11:18.37 | impi | ja |
| 11:18.44 | impi | 16.04 lts |
| 11:18.49 | impi | 16.04.3 |
| 11:18.52 | tomaz | why not 17.04 or 17.10 ? (I mean - tons of bugfixes went to plasma and kde over that year) |
| 11:19.04 | impi | i try to run the lts versions |
| 11:19.11 | impi | it's just more stable |
| 11:20.44 | tomaz | well, considering that I use arch linux updated daily I'm really far from lts. but I really fail to see how an application from <2yrs old is more stable than one that's receiving constant bugfixes and updates. |
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| 11:21.13 | tomaz | so unless I'm running something that *must* be 24h on, I'm on bleeding edge. |
| 11:21.22 | impi | hehe |
| 11:21.28 | tomaz | (but my server runs centos 7, and that still has a 3.10 kernel :P ) |
| 11:21.34 | impi | i admire you <3 |
| 11:21.58 | impi | you have my full support, and if you ever need a cold beer as a show of encouragement, i'll be the first to buy it |
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| 12:50.10 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 13:30.17 | asturm | impi: the plasma version shipped by 16.04 is awful. you should add the backports repo |
| 13:30.35 | asturm | that gives you an actual plasma LTS release, also |
| 13:30.52 | impi | oh right |
| 13:30.55 | impi | thanks for that |
| 13:31.02 | impi | i will try to do that soon |
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| 13:33.26 | tosky | or upgrade Ubuntu |
| 13:33.35 | tosky | 18.04 is not far away anyway |
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| 13:35.11 | tosky | impi: because if you add backport repositories, you are not making your lts more stable |
| 13:35.26 | asturm | tosky: well... in case of 16.04... :p |
| 13:35.26 | tosky | so probably better upgrade and then upgrade again in few months to the next lts |
| 13:35.38 | asturm | but yes |
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| 14:45.15 | JyZyXEL | whats the deal with kwin_x11 having a ~500 MiB memory-mapped /drm object in its heap? |
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| 15:38.21 | u53R | hello dolphin can be opened with root privileges in latest plasma update ? |
| 15:38.34 | asturm | u53R: dolphin is no plasma product |
| 15:39.00 | asturm | only a dolphin/frameworks update will change that |
| 15:39.21 | u53R | got different irc for kde apps ? |
| 15:39.59 | Fuchs | in here would be correct, |
| 15:40.11 | Fuchs | but yes, that was on purpose, there is a blog post by Martin Graesslin about it |
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| 15:40.14 | Fuchs | *Floesser |
| 15:40.20 | Fuchs | same goes for kate, I think |
| 15:42.16 | Fuchs | https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/02/editing-files-as-root/ this thing |
| 15:42.25 | Fuchs | short: do not run (graphical) applications as root |
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| 17:29.11 | Kon- | I'm registering a KDE Identity. It's only giving me a drop-down menu to choose my username from options combining my full real name. I've seen plenty of people around Phabricator using other usernames, so what gives? |
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| 17:33.22 | tosky | Kon-: you can use a different username in phabricator or in the forums, but both use the identity credentials |
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| 17:37.29 | Kon- | tosky, thanks. Wasn't super clear when you go to sign up for Phabricator |
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| 19:45.54 | MiceHelium | does anybody know where plasma stores monitor config info? I ran a game and it ditched my second monitor and now it won't show up in the display settings |
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| 20:01.19 | Psy-Q | i have a bizarre problem on debian 9. i can't enter characters with umlauts or other accents in gtk2 apps, but it works in gtk3 and qt ones |
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| 20:01.46 | Psy-Q | under gnome 3 it works in gtk2, gtk3 and qt apps |
| 20:02.38 | Psy-Q | xev shows some random nonsense (displayed as a question mark in a diamond symbol) when i try entering an umlaut in plasma/kde |
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| 20:14.14 | Psy-Q | when i start the gtk2 app from inside Konsole, it all works fine too |
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| 20:34.50 | thiago | Psy-Q: looks like an environment issue |
| 20:34.59 | thiago | compare the /proc/PID/env of the two applications |
| 20:35.09 | thiago | hint: tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/PID/env | sort |
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| 20:57.42 | impi | hello |
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| 20:58.02 | impi | i am using breeze dark theme, but would like libre office to show breeze light |
| 20:58.44 | impi | i have seen a post where one can set this in this file /opt/libreoffice5.3/share/xdg/calc.desktop |
| 20:59.12 | impi | i have tried everything but it didn't work, even though I can see the launcher command does reflect the change |
| 21:02.40 | impi | i was looking at this url https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/6nlmec/breeze_light_theme_set_an_app_to_use_breeze_dark/ |
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