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| 00:11.26 | annadane | logged in, instant freeze :D |
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| 00:14.01 | iboyperson | hello. I am seeking help with my kde desktop. For the time being i have reverted to cinnamon because while using kde i would recive horrible stuttering freezing with performance far lower then what would be expected from my machine |
| 00:15.13 | JanKusanagi | annadane: what version of Linux? I heard some people had problems with Linux 4.14.x and Nouveau when using OpenGL-related stuff |
| 00:15.24 | JanKusanagi | but that's supposed to be fixed with Linux 4.15 |
| 00:15.24 | annadane | debian sid |
| 00:15.37 | JanKusanagi | that's not a version of Linux :D |
| 00:15.44 | annadane | oh linux as in kernel |
| 00:15.52 | JanKusanagi | is it something else? |
| 00:15.54 | annadane | Linux debian 4.14.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.14.13-1 (2018-01-14) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 00:16.02 | annadane | 4.15 hasn't yet sid yet |
| 00:16.07 | JanKusanagi | ah, then maybe your freeze is due to that |
| 00:16.09 | annadane | s/yet/hit |
| 00:16.30 | JanKusanagi | you can try again with 4.15 when you can have it, or you could boot an older version of Linux if you still have them around |
| 00:16.43 | annadane | eh... i've had this problem since at least 4.9 |
| 00:16.50 | JanKusanagi | the freeze? |
| 00:16.58 | annadane | mhm |
| 00:17.23 | iboyperson | i am running arch linux with kernel version 4.15.2 |
| 00:17.33 | JanKusanagi | iboyperson: you could try setting a different "rendering backend" in the Compositor options in Plasma's System Settings |
| 00:19.08 | iboyperson | I will reinstall kde and try changing the backend |
| 00:19.31 | JanKusanagi | ah, you uninstalled Plasma? |
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| 00:20.13 | iboyperson | yes I switced to Cinnamon the problem was so bad |
| 00:20.32 | iboyperson | but i will happily return to plasma if i can fix the issue |
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| 00:20.50 | JanKusanagi | you could switch without uninstalling :D |
| 00:21.02 | JanKusanagi | it would be faster to test things now |
| 00:22.26 | iboyperson | yes I see that now but I had previously attempted to get help on the kde subreddit with no success. I then removed kde because it was unneeded |
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| 00:30.35 | iboyperson | im back and booted into kde |
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| 01:11.01 | iboyperson | hello |
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| 01:20.43 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.12 and KDE Applications 17.12 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
| 01:22.52 | JanKusanagi | you changed it from what? OpenGL 2.0? |
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| 01:29.51 | iboyperson | yes from opengl 2.0 |
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| 01:32.35 | JanKusanagi | have you tried Xrender? |
| 01:33.06 | iboyperson | I have not |
| 01:33.45 | JanKusanagi | then do =) |
| 01:34.24 | JanKusanagi | in ideal conditions, it has less performance than the openGL options, but since in your case, your video drivers seem to be misbehaving, it might actually be better |
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| 01:37.45 | iboyperson | i will give it a shot. Could the issues im having be related to my system using bumblebee? |
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| 01:47.27 | JanKusanagi | I don't know, I've never had that kind of hybrid system |
| 01:47.32 | JanKusanagi | could be |
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| 01:54.18 | iboyperson | after switching to xrender the ocational freezing remains |
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| 02:02.20 | JanKusanagi | you could try disabling compositing entirely, temporarily, by pressing alt+shift+F12 |
| 02:04.09 | iboyperson | funnily enough i jest diabled compositing and i can no longer interact with my desktop at all |
| 02:05.01 | JanKusanagi | uh, that's weird |
| 02:05.09 | JanKusanagi | pressing the same combination should re-enable it |
| 02:05.59 | iboyperson | hmm it did nothing.... as of not it seems all i am able to do is type in this window |
| 02:07.17 | iboyperson | never mind I guess the screen flashed and now i am able to interact with everything fine and compositing is disabled |
| 02:07.50 | iboyperson | and the freezing persists |
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| 02:15.12 | JanKusanagi | pressing alt+esc should bring up the "System Activity" window |
| 02:15.33 | JanKusanagi | with that, you can see if there's something using a lot of memory, or a lot of CPU, sorting by either column |
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| 02:16.05 | Guest40015 | How properly update the opensuse tumbleweed using zypper dup? On the first computer kde didn't work after update, only gnome. On the second computer X didn't start. It's kde 5.12 with wayland... |
| 02:18.02 | JanKusanagi | Plasma 5.12 |
| 02:18.17 | JanKusanagi | there's no such thing as "KDE vX.Y", KDE is the community |
| 02:18.31 | JanKusanagi | for opensuse instructions you should go to their channels |
| 02:18.56 | JanKusanagi | if you're using the Plasma on Wayland session, problems are to be expected |
| 02:21.21 | iboyperson | ha ha apologies for the time it took to reply. Pidgin decided to freeze. Baloo seems to be using most ram at 200MB but that is nothing to the 16GB i have avalible. CPU% is not seemingly reported well as the only indecator showing is baloo saying "disk sleep" |
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| 02:47.02 | iboyperson | oddly enough it looks as if I may have been looking in the wrong place the whole time |
| 02:47.35 | iboyperson | i disabled file search and the freezing seems to have at least improved. I cannot yet say if it is fixed |
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| 02:53.16 | JanKusanagi | if the process was in "disk sleep" before, most probably that's your coulprit |
| 02:53.19 | JanKusanagi | *culprit |
| 02:53.38 | JanKusanagi | System Activity can show you disk read/write too, but you have to enable the columns |
| 02:53.58 | JanKusanagi | then you can sort by highest I/O usage, and baloo might be using A LOT |
| 02:54.15 | JanKusanagi | you can wait until it's indexed everything, or like you did, just disable it |
| 02:54.22 | JanKusanagi | it will probably be much better now |
| 02:54.42 | JanKusanagi | if you're still using Xrender, I suggest you go back to OpenGL 3.x =) |
| 03:04.54 | iboyperson | i switched back to opengl 3.1 |
| 03:05.04 | iboyperson | and i have not noticed any freezing :D |
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| 03:14.32 | JanKusanagi | \o/ |
| 03:16.28 | iboyperson | i can finally use kde again |
| 03:19.48 | JanKusanagi | Plasma rocks =) |
| 03:20.58 | iboyperson | indeed! Thanks :D |
| 03:23.31 | JanKusanagi | yw! |
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| 06:20.26 | Metaphysiker | When I try to install kNotes, this happens: The following packages have unmet dependencies: knotes : Depends: kdepim-runtime but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Any ideas, how to fix this? Distro: KDE neon 5.12 |
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| 06:29.37 | thiago | Metaphysiker: ask in your Linux distribution's channel. |
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| 09:16.05 | curan | hey, is there a page that details what a "LTS" tag on a release means? Like âwe're commiting to X months of supportâ, âwe only make general updates for N months, after that only security fixes until the end of the LTS periodâ, etc.? I'm looking for something like https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html for KDE Plasma releases |
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| 09:33.18 | travankor[m] | curan (IRC): https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 |
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| 09:39.23 | curan | travankor[m]: well, that page is not too helpful: it lacks the 5.8.9 release ( https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.8.9.php ) and 5.12.7 is the last listed release but no note if it's the EOL date, with 7 months being a bit short for a supposed LTS release |
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| 09:40.07 | curan | so I feel the schedule page is more of a living document and not something I can base an expectation on for how long I'll get support |
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| 09:43.58 | travankor[m] | well, this is a community project... anywyas, you can expect the 5.12 lts to have support till the next lts (5.16) is released. Likewise, 5.8 is still functional now, but there is 5.12. |
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| 09:50.05 | curan | travankor[m]: since KDE is usually good at documenting and announcing I was just expecting a page like the kernel's somewhere; I'm well aware this is a community effort |
| 09:50.13 | curan | anyway, thanks for the info |
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| 09:58.06 | voxadam | When viewing a commit in Phabricator it includes a list of tags; in the case of KDE's release workflow are those tags the versions that the change became part of? |
| 10:02.06 | voxadam | For instance, https://phabricator.kde.org/R223:a5da013a4da20f9230775fdf52275c5136e4f172, includes the flowing tags "v17.12.2, v17.12.1, v17.12.0, v17.11.90, v17.11.80". |
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| 10:03.16 | voxadam | Does that mean that those versions of Okular include that changeset? |
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| 10:05.53 | voxadam | I just remembered that app version â KDE verison. |
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| 10:09.34 | kkremitzki | Underneath that account in Kmail it shows, for example, "Inbox", then "> [Gmail] (0 + x)" where x is the number of unread spam |
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| 11:07.03 | zilti | I wanted to use KDialog, but either KDialog or the docs: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Shell_Scripting_with_KDE_Dialogs#Example_36._--progressbar_dialog_box_example are broken. |
| 11:08.07 | tosky | zilti: maybe the doc is just outdated; kdialog was recently ported to Frameworks and it may have changed behavior slightly |
| 11:10.04 | tosky | zilti: what does not match between the documentation and the dialog? |
| 11:10.09 | tosky | SetLabelText? |
| 11:10.34 | tosky | well, for any dbus call (not just kdialog), you can see all the methods supported using |
| 11:10.58 | tosky | qdbus my.namespace.and.program /Something |
| 11:11.25 | zilti | Well here I have OpenSUSE 42.3 where it works, so I can't exactly say, but apparently the value in $dbusRef is wrong |
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| 11:11.55 | tosky | what version of kdialog do you have there? |
| 11:12.17 | zilti | On the computer I'm at right now it's 1.0 |
| 11:12.25 | tosky | it's the old version, based on kdelibs 4.x |
| 11:13.35 | zilti | But Tumbleweed has the latest stable one, and there it doesn't work |
| 11:14.21 | tosky | I just tested it on Fedora 27 which has kdialog 17.12.1 (internal version 2.0) |
| 11:14.22 | tosky | and it works |
| 11:15.17 | tosky | einar77_work: can you confirm the version on Tumbleweed vs 42.3? I'm always confused by the branches |
| 11:15.43 | tosky | I seems to see a kdialog5, but not sure if it provides kdialog (I think that it should simply replace the old package) |
| 11:16.04 | zilti | I'm updating this machine to Tumbleweed anyway, so I can check in a couple minutes |
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| 11:18.23 | einar77_work | tosky: kdialog? |
| 11:18.35 | tosky | einar77_work: yep, kdialog |
| 11:18.49 | einar77_work | checking (if network doesn't suck) |
| 11:19.26 | einar77_work | Leap has kdialog and kdialog5 IIRC |
| 11:19.31 | einar77_work | TW only kdialog (KF5) |
| 11:19.38 | tosky | ah, perfect, thanks |
| 11:19.50 | einar77_work | triple checking on the OBS |
| 11:20.20 | einar77_work | hm, wait |
| 11:20.30 | einar77_work | 42.3 has the KF5 kdialog already |
| 11:22.25 | tosky | so package kdialog? |
| 11:22.28 | tosky | or kdialog5? |
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| 11:31.37 | einar77_work | tosky: kdialog |
| 11:31.49 | tosky | einar77_work: thanks |
| 11:31.52 | tosky | zilti: ^^ |
| 11:31.57 | einar77_work | at version 17.04.2 |
| 11:33.24 | tosky | that should be already Frameworks, but maybe the progress bar was fixed later |
| 11:34.32 | einar77_work | perhaps |
| 11:34.35 | tosky | this commit should fix progressbar https://commits.kde.org/kdialog/d72ab46df8879024cda620beec9da71a674873dc |
| 11:34.45 | tosky | and it's in >=17.04.0 |
| 11:34.55 | tosky | waits for zilti's feedback |
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| 11:42.17 | killown | how do I fix these awful crashes and stability issues from kde? |
| 11:42.51 | killown | every hour has a new stability issue, this seems an alpha desktop extremelly unstable |
| 11:43.06 | Triffid_Hunter | works for me |
| 11:43.27 | killown | random lucky |
| 11:43.41 | killown | you mean, works in your hardware |
| 11:44.57 | Triffid_Hunter | killown: heh, what's wrong with your hardware? |
| 11:45.09 | killown | Nothing, works with gnome |
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| 11:48.20 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 11:50.43 | tosky | killown: graphic card? |
| 11:50.56 | tosky | it's not just one hardware where it works fine, for the record |
| 11:51.00 | killown | gtx580LE |
| 11:51.08 | tosky | oh, nvidia |
| 11:51.13 | tosky | that may explain |
| 11:51.26 | Triffid_Hunter | I've been using kde + nvidia for years, never had issues |
| 11:51.38 | Triffid_Hunter | got two systems here right now doing it |
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| 11:52.34 | tomaz | killown: do you have backtraces? what version of plasma are you running? |
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| 11:53.05 | killown | tomaz 5.11 |
| 11:53.11 | killown | where do I get the backtraces? |
| 11:53.36 | tomaz | when you install the debug symbols from the repositories you can generate backtraces if something crashes. |
| 11:54.21 | tomaz | can you tell us *what* crashes? plasma, a specific app, some other random stuff? |
| 11:54.37 | tomaz | we need to be able to pinpoint what's causing the issue for you and fix the problem. |
| 11:54.45 | killown | tomaz, kwin_x11 crashing |
| 11:54.49 | killown | plasmashell crashing |
| 11:54.59 | tomaz | btw, if you can update to .12, *tons* of errors have been fixed. |
| 11:55.08 | killown | sometimes all the desktop freezes then I need to systemctl restart sddm |
| 11:55.18 | killown | I will try to update right now, thank you |
| 11:55.27 | asturm | tbh that sounds like gpu driver failure. |
| 11:55.45 | tomaz | asturm: that would crash in gnome too, and he says that gnome runs fine. |
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| 11:56.14 | asturm | no, other DE running fine is one data point, but does not mean gpu driver is off the hook |
| 11:56.15 | tomaz | I would also second guess a wayland issue - but he said that he's using kwin_x11 |
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| 12:00.37 | Ryoga | KDE neon 5.12: The sticky-note widget does not appear in my panel selection anymore. How can I reinstall it? The widget for comic strip is also gone. |
| 12:01.09 | killown | for sure is some issue related to nvidia driver |
| 12:03.21 | tosky | Ryoga: is kdeplasma-addons (whatever is packaged in your distribution) installed? |
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| 12:04.00 | tosky | killown: re your issue, without backtraces there is no much to do |
| 12:04.43 | tosky | also, the fact that gnome works means something, but sometimes nvidia fixed bugs in their driver because some code path was triggered by kwin |
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| 12:05.07 | Ryoga_ | tosky: How can I check for that? |
| 12:05.14 | tosky | killown: also, does it crash with any compositing type in kwin? |
| 12:05.30 | tosky | Ryoga_: check the installed packages |
| 12:05.39 | killown | crash even with composite disabled |
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| 12:06.53 | tosky | so all 3 backends (xrender, opengl 2, opengl 3.1), and when it's disabled too? |
| 12:06.55 | killown | I am upgrading for 5.12 |
| 12:07.10 | tosky | check also for updates of the nvidia driver |
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| 12:08.53 | Ryoga_ | tosky: Sorry for this stupid question: Do I check them in "discover"? Or with aptitude? (Do you per chance know the name of that widget? It is apperently not kNotes) |
| 12:09.31 | tosky | Ryoga_: they are all part of kdeplasma-addons |
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| 12:10.43 | tosky | Ryoga_: uhm, no, the generated package has a different name apparently |
| 12:10.48 | tosky | Ryoga_: check on neon channels |
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| 13:19.17 | thrmo | I'm getting this problem when trying to run kgpg from the terminal: |
| 13:19.34 | thrmo | kgpg: symbol lookup error: kgpg: undefined symbol: _ZN7Akonadi13ContactEditor18setContactTemplateERKN9KContacts9AddresseeE |
| 13:19.45 | thrmo | how can I fix it? |
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| 14:14.01 | JanKusanagi | sounds like your kgpg needs rebuilding againt current Akonadi stack |
| 14:14.13 | JanKusanagi | or againt whatever other libraries have been updated |
| 14:14.36 | JanKusanagi | or the other way around, your KGPG is built with newer Akonadi than the one you have installed |
| 14:14.44 | thrmo | ok ty JanKusanagi |
| 14:15.17 | e-anima | have you ever had a kde applicatio nwhere the main menu disappeard (ctrl+m) does not bring it bacxk |
| 14:15.46 | JanKusanagi | which application is this? |
| 14:15.52 | e-anima | kdenlive in my case |
| 14:15.55 | tosky | with the normal menu or the global menu? |
| 14:16.10 | e-anima | normal menu like file view and so on |
| 14:16.26 | JanKusanagi | control+m works as expected in my KDenlive 17.12.1 |
| 14:16.37 | e-anima | what do you mean with global menu? |
| 14:16.49 | JanKusanagi | a menu that's placed outside the window |
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| 14:16.52 | e-anima | 17,12,2 is the current |
| 14:17.01 | JanKusanagi | it's optional, if you don't know what it is, you're probably not using it |
| 14:17.02 | e-anima | i never have had a global menu in kde |
| 14:17.07 | e-anima | :) |
| 14:17.11 | JanKusanagi | (in Plasma) |
| 14:17.18 | e-anima | yes i have plasma |
| 14:17.30 | e-anima | but i guess i dont have tat activated |
| 14:17.33 | JanKusanagi | maybe you have the Control+M shortcut also assigned to something else |
| 14:17.46 | e-anima | i will check the settings now |
| 14:18.14 | e-anima | these should be in global shortcust i guess |
| 14:18.54 | e-anima | nah it is ctrl+m |
| 14:19.06 | e-anima | ist on standard shortcuts |
| 14:19.16 | JanKusanagi | what I meant is, maybe you have a conflict because you also have control+m assigned to something else |
| 14:19.37 | JanKusanagi | either way, there are several places in KDEnlive's UI where a mouse right-click will show a long menu |
| 14:20.23 | JanKusanagi | which includes ah, nevermind, that can enable both toolbars, but not the menu bar |
| 14:20.31 | e-anima | yep |
| 14:21.54 | JanKusanagi | well, you can add the item "show menubar" to the toolbar |
| 14:22.02 | e-anima | deleted config files in .local/share and the kdenliverc, still gone |
| 14:22.08 | e-anima | JanKusanagi, ok interesting. i try that |
| 14:22.10 | JanKusanagi | that was radical... |
| 14:22.43 | e-anima | yea i have backups. just testing :D |
| 14:24.02 | e-anima | lol awesome. i added the "show menu bar" button. it seems to be invisible. the oter show x buttons appear |
| 14:25.46 | JanKusanagi | I've added it to my "Extra toolbar", and it's very visible here, with both icon and description; plus, it does what it's supposed to :D |
| 14:26.37 | e-anima | seems i found the opposite of gold again :) |
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| 14:27.43 | e-anima | hmm it could be that i changed the language to german |
| 14:27.59 | e-anima | because it is englisch again |
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| 14:30.19 | JanKusanagi | I don't see a relation, but who knows... |
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| 14:46.01 | e-anima | fun thing the kdenliverc has MenuBar=Disabled in it |
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| 14:58.42 | freakynl | Hi, I updated my kde/plasma from 5.11 -> 5.12 and now my touchscreen no longer works. Any ideas? Kernel is still the same, event device exists and spits out garbage when touching screen |
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| 15:26.10 | hack13[m] | I am on 5.12 plasma, and I am trying to figure out how to pick which monitor my notifications pop up on and I cannot find a setting for this. I found I can position them on the monitor but not which monitor they appear on. |
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| 15:50.13 | e-anima | ok got it. its a bug with that global menu. i never activated that. but on some bar there was some. it was somehow hidden. i deleted all my bars and readded them |
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| 16:03.48 | f00 | Hmm kMail doesnt show any mail. launched it using console, no errors |
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| 16:11.04 | JanKusanagi | try selecting another folder, like "drafts" and then selecting Inbox again |
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| 16:12.16 | f00 | for some reason INBOX was not a imap subscription |
| 16:12.36 | f00 | kmail 5.12 ubuntu backports ppa |
| 16:12.44 | f00 | solved |
| 16:13.18 | asturm | f00: there is no kmail 5.12 |
| 16:13.59 | f00 | kde 5.12 / kmail 5.5.3 |
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| 16:32.12 | JanKusanagi | Plasma 5.12, maybe :D |
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| 17:17.25 | Alumin | is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of a Trackpoint mouse in KDE? I've been through the Control Center / System Settings and there are tweaks for acceleration but nothing for the base sensitivity |
| 17:18.17 | Alumin | amazingly I'm actually starting to acclimate to its over-caffeinated...ness...but it's still 90% useless for precise stuff like selecting individual characters on a line |
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| 17:21.43 | JonelethIrenicus | After running a game all my fonts get blurry even after the game is closed. |
| 17:21.52 | JonelethIrenicus | How can I fix this?\ |
| 17:22.50 | Alumin | stop playing Super Hexagon |
| 17:22.57 | Alumin | :D |
| 17:23.45 | Alumin | sorry, couldn't resist...don't know the answer to your question |
| 17:24.53 | JonelethIrenicus | Alumin: never played that yet |
| 17:25.41 | Alumin | so is it just the fonts that get blurry? Not anything else on the screen? |
| 17:26.24 | Alumin | it's a twitch game. I mean, not Twitch as in the streaming service, twitch as in it's just a reflex simulator |
| 17:27.11 | JanKusanagi | the fonts got flurry, or did the resolution change? |
| 17:27.35 | JanKusanagi | *blurry :D |
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| 17:31.37 | Anatzum | Is there a keyboard shortcut or option I can assign a keyboard shortcut to the application menu button in the toolbar for the widget style? I love the way it looks but it seems everytime I'm using an IDE with a designer, it breaks and stops working. |
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| 17:35.23 | JanKusanagi | could you elaborate? |
| 17:35.43 | JanKusanagi | what menu, on what toolbar? |
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| 17:38.37 | Anatzum | under settings -> application style -> window decorations -> buttons, if you put the application menu button on the toolbar, instead of having the ex. "file, edit and other menu options" displayed below the toolbar it is instead a simple button in the toolbar. |
| 17:39.08 | JanKusanagi | ah, System Settings |
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| 17:39.39 | JanKusanagi | and you want quicker access to the window decoration settigns? |
| 17:39.41 | Anatzum | I love the way this looks and give your application more screen but too many times using an IDE it breaks and leaves me without the ability to use any menu options |
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| 17:41.19 | Anatzum | since right now the only way to interact with the application menu button in the toolbar is by clicking it, I was wondering if maybe the clicking part is what is broken and if i could call it via a keyboard shortcut i could still use it |
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| 17:42.59 | JanKusanagi | ah, no idea... but you could try setting the global menu as a plasmoid on a panel instead, and see if that also breaks with your IDEs |
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| 17:43.54 | JonelethIrenicus | Alumin: yeah just the fonts |
| 17:45.17 | Anatzum | I havn't tried the global menu with a panel but the regular style having it in the application has always worked but the reason I always prefered in the toolbar was because of the extra 2 cm of screen space for my application lol |
| 17:46.02 | JonelethIrenicus | well actually the window decorations kind of get blurry as well |
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| 17:46.29 | JanKusanagi | title bar, not toolbar |
| 17:46.41 | JanKusanagi | toolbars are something else |
| 17:46.55 | Anatzum | yeah title bar sorry |
| 17:47.17 | JanKusanagi | and the other buttons in the title bar work? minimize, maximize...? |
| 17:48.22 | Anatzum | yes everything except with application menu button. I've noticed it only happens with an IDE with a designer and once I go into the designer part of the IDE it stops working. This is the only time it actually stops working too. |
| 17:48.50 | Anatzum | For instance QtCreator |
| 17:49.40 | Anatzum | It also did this with Android Studio which are the only 2 I use with a designer. |
| 17:49.47 | JanKusanagi | if the other buttons work, I doubt it's a clicking issue, more like the application stopped "exporting" the menu via DBus |
| 17:50.17 | JanKusanagi | which is a hypothesis that could be tested by using the global menu as a plasmoid on a panel instead |
| 17:50.36 | Anatzum | I'll try that out right now. |
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| 17:55.00 | Anatzum | Just finished testing it out with the global menu and I ran into the same problem. After switching to and from the designer, eventually the global menu went blank. |
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| 17:57.45 | Anatzum | Since what you were saying seems to be true I guess there isn't much we can do about that other then contacting QtCreator and Android Studio |
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| 18:05.52 | Alumin | Anatzum: I'm 80% sure I don't understand your question, but are you looking for Alt-Space? |
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| 18:11.24 | Anatzum | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.45 | Alumin | oh, so you're looking for the name of the action? |
| 18:11.49 | Alumin | one sec I can look that up |
| 18:12.59 | Alumin | alt-f3 is the KDE default by the way |
| 18:13.09 | Alumin | it's "Window Operations Menu" under KWin |
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| 18:15.52 | killown | I have chrome web apps and when an audio is playing on chromium the task manager will mark all webapps as playing audio |
| 18:16.01 | killown | is there some way to change this behaviour ? |
| 18:16.36 | Anatzum | Ok I see yeah that's unfortunately not it. I was refering to the application menus like "File, Edit, Insert, Booksmarks, ect for Konversation if your using that right now" That menu. Although I'm leaning towards what JanKusanagi said about the application not exporting the menu through DBus since the global menu as a panel has the same issue as the application menu in the title bar. |
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| 18:22.00 | cqoicebordel | Hi. Does anyone knows how to get the "desktop" module back for kcmshell5 ? It doesn't appear in the --list, and so, I can't configure the virtual desktops. |
| 18:22.22 | tosky | cqoicebordel: try to search from systemsettings |
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| 18:23.06 | cqoicebordel | Nothing in it either. |
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| 18:24.57 | tosky | should be inside "desktop behavior" (at least up to plasma 5.11) |
| 18:26.59 | cqoicebordel | tosky: Not for me. And since systemsettings uses kcmshell5, there is no reason that it should work in one and not the other. |
| 18:27.15 | cqoicebordel | The "desktop" element is just... missing. |
| 18:27.18 | tosky | cqoicebordel: on Fedora 27 the package is kwin-common |
| 18:27.42 | cqoicebordel | Yep, already installed. |
| 18:28.14 | tosky | then I don't have other suggestions, if not trying a new user |
| 18:28.23 | cqoicebordel | And just tried a --reinstall. |
| 18:28.27 | tosky | does not matter |
| 18:28.30 | demm | cqoicebordel: you mean right click desktop >configure desktop > layout, select folder view? |
| 18:28.44 | tosky | if you have the file /usr/share/kservices5/desktop.desktop, then it should be there |
| 18:29.06 | tosky | check the integrity of the package, check with another user, and if you didn't logout/login after installing the package, do it |
| 18:29.45 | demm | in that dropdown you have the "desktop" layout option |
| 18:30.29 | cqoicebordel | demm: I'm not sure. I use french locale and it's not easy to find my way between the two. What I have missing is where I can select the number of rows and column of virtual desktops. |
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| 18:31.29 | silver_hook | Is there any KDE music player that integrates Deezer? |
| 18:31.57 | cqoicebordel | tosky: the desktop.desktop file exist, but it runs "kcmshell5 desktop" which doesn't work. |
| 18:32.27 | demm | silver_hook: not fully KDE, but Qt5, https://colinduquesnoy.github.io/MellowPlayer/ |
| 18:32.57 | silver_hook | I guess Tomahawk is/was also in that direction, right? |
| 18:32.59 | tosky | cqoicebordel: check my other points above |
| 18:33.30 | cqoicebordel | tosky: Yes, I will try logging out then in again. See ya. |
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| 18:37.47 | cqoicebordel | tosky: No dice, after a reboot. |
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| 18:39.46 | ltosky[m] | did you verify the rpm? And a new user? |
| 18:40.32 | cqoicebordel | deb, yes, and I'm doing the new user now. |
| 18:41.00 | silver_hook | demm: Any suggestions on Deezer vs Spotify vs � |
| 18:41.17 | demm | silver_hook: nope :) |
| 18:41.21 | silver_hook | I used to used LastFM before it got acquired. |
| 18:41.34 | silver_hook | Fair ânuff :) |
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| 18:43.36 | cqoicebordel | New user didn't help. |
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| 18:50.04 | ddubya | does any know why characters in plasma panel, lock screen, and notifications randomly disappear |
| 18:52.21 | ddubya | I find it hard to believe this is a driver bug, every post I find on the subject seems to think so |
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| 20:27.18 | maggu2810 | hi, i am using recent archlinux (plasma 5.12 and kde-applications 12.12 -- on walyand). if i am using copy / paste using the keyboard shortcuts (ctrl+c, ctrl+v) the desktop "freeze" very often. the screen goes blank and i cannot switch to another VT anymore. the system itself is not frozen - i can press the power button and the system tries to shutdown (sddm does not react anymore, so the 1:30 dfl timeout will be hit). is this known or should i |
| 20:27.19 | maggu2810 | further debug? |
| 20:28.36 | JanKusanagi | what graphics card, and using what driver? |
| 20:28.44 | JanKusanagi | does this happen also under X.org? |
| 20:29.33 | maggu2810 | JanKusanagi: intel 4th gen, didn't use X.org (can test it if it is not a known issue) |
| 20:30.10 | maggu2810 | There is an additional nvidia card, but no driver is loaded. i blacklisted the nvidia drivers |
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| 20:33.21 | JanKusanagi | but you have to be using _some_ driver |
| 20:33.39 | JanKusanagi | you'll be using Nouveau then... unless it's not installed and you're using crappy VESA |
| 20:33.56 | JanKusanagi | unless you specifically want to use Wayland, I'd try under Xorg |
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| 20:34.15 | JanKusanagi | Wayland is still "undiscovered country" |
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| 20:37.52 | maggu2810 | as written above, i am using the intel GPU. the additional nvidia one is blacklisted (and so the nouveau) |
| 20:39.11 | JanKusanagi | oh, sorry, didn't read that correctly |
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| 20:39.23 | JanKusanagi | I assumed the "intel 4th gen" referred to the processor :D |
| 20:39.38 | maggu2810 | it should refer to the i915 usage |
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| 21:02.36 | anupambasak27[m] | Any solution for this issue?? |
| 21:02.37 | anupambasak27[m] | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389701 |
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| 21:04.52 | JanKusanagi | crashes with QuickTime? :D |
| 21:04.54 | JanKusanagi | j/k |
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| 21:06.01 | anupambasak27[m] | No no.. qt framework |
| 21:06.25 | anupambasak27[m] | ð
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| 21:06.26 | asturm | anupambasak27[m]: your bug is filed against the correct component |
| 21:06.27 | tosky | anupambasak27[m]: I would try a new update, and also you should not do apt-get upgrade, but apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:06.28 | JanKusanagi | yeah, I was kidding, since the framework is "Qt", not "QT" :D |
| 21:06.38 | tosky | anupambasak27[m]: upgrade is not what you think it is |
| 21:06.52 | JanKusanagi | the error in the attachment sounds like certain components still need upgrading |
| 21:07.05 | JanKusanagi | I'd just not use apt-* |
| 21:07.05 | anupambasak27[m] | Ohhhh.. subtle error in the title.. |
| 21:07.23 | JanKusanagi | either use Aptitude (my preferred choice) or use the newer "apt" binary |
| 21:07.24 | tosky | it only performs upgrade operations which do not require to install new packages or remove existing packages |
| 21:07.27 | tosky | so dist-upgrade |
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| 21:07.46 | anupambasak27[m] | Okay |
| 21:07.52 | anupambasak27[m] | Understood |
| 21:08.27 | JanKusanagi | aptitude has "safe-upgrade" and "full-upgrade", but safe-upgrade clearly shows if some packages are _not_ being updated for some reason |
| 21:08.36 | JanKusanagi | (usually because that would remove other things) |
| 21:09.04 | anupambasak27[m] | But what to do if I only need to upgrade qt without upgrading the distro?? |
| 21:09.05 | anupambasak27[m] | Manuall download and then select with `qtselect` |
| 21:09.19 | asturm | never do manual doanload. |
| 21:09.24 | asturm | *download |
| 21:09.34 | anupambasak27[m] | Ohh i get it |
| 21:10.13 | anupambasak27[m] | > never do manual doanload. |
| 21:10.14 | anupambasak27[m] | Need to do it for development though.. |
| 21:10.21 | anupambasak27[m] | Understood your point |
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| 21:10.29 | asturm | in your local folders sure, not for system |
| 21:11.30 | anupambasak27[m] | Okay |
| 21:11.37 | anupambasak27[m] | Understood |
| 21:11.51 | JanKusanagi | why don't you want to upgrade the whole distribution? |
| 21:12.05 | anupambasak27[m] | Thanks for helping me out |
| 21:12.06 | JanKusanagi | or rather, the whole system? |
| 21:13.28 | anupambasak27[m] | It seems I have to because of the dependency of other modules |
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| 21:13.47 | asturm | I may be wrong but adding a repository and _not_ doing a full upgrade might be a recipe for disaster? |
| 21:13.58 | asturm | if it replaces system libs |
| 21:14.17 | asturm | I have no idea how debian handles this |
| 21:14.25 | anupambasak27[m] | > I may be wrong but adding a repository and _not_ doing a full upgrade might be a recipe for disaster? |
| 21:14.25 | anupambasak27[m] | I think this is the exact issue.. |
| 21:14.47 | anupambasak27[m] | I'll try with a full dist-upgrade |
| 21:14.56 | tosky | asturm: yes, it may be |
| 21:15.00 | anupambasak27[m] | Hopefully all will go well.. |
| 21:15.12 | tosky | if some dependencies are not ruled out perfectly (which may the case with packages-from-git) |
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| 22:52.20 | Alumin | anyone else ever run into an issue where Akregator (running inside Kontact) doesn't mark articles as read? It doesn't do it automatically, or by keyboard shortcut, and -- here's the really weird part -- the entire contents of the "Article" menu are grayed out |
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| 22:53.10 | Alumin | but stuff like "Mark Feed as Read" has no effect either |
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