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| 00:22.07 | LazyGnoll | CorvetteZR1: your distro might be shipping a separate package that contains the rdp plugin |
| 00:22.48 | CorvetteZR1 | it's freebsd 11.1, area51 repo |
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| 00:33.49 | LazyGnoll | CorvetteZR1: it also might be disabled during build for some reason, probably check the port scripts or whatever freebsd has |
| 00:34.17 | CorvetteZR1 | ok, thx |
| 00:36.23 | LazyGnoll | CorvetteZR1: also rdp might be a build-time dep |
| 00:36.32 | LazyGnoll | freedrp I mean |
| 00:37.05 | LazyGnoll | so if you had it installed only after krdc it probably wasn't found during krdc build |
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| 01:01.03 | CorvetteZR1 | LazyGnoll, area51 is just a pkg repo, i didn't compile anything from there. should have pulled in rdp dep binaries i assume. i'll check with area51 guys and see what they say. thanks |
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| 01:36.08 | CorvetteZR1 | try neon? |
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| 01:42.18 | Zren | by default |
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| 01:43.59 | Zren | since it didn't go well when I did it in my dev VM |
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| 12:36.15 | Sicnus | how can you make it where you have only one desktop with icons on the desktop in KDE (like all other window managers and KDE in the olden days...) Now I have two monitors... 1 with home/trash and the other with home / trash. :/ I'd like to have one desktop... that is .... all my monitors. |
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| 12:55.08 | Triffid_Hunter | Sicnus: isn't that the default if you compile with xinerama? |
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| 13:03.19 | Sicnus | No clue... I didn't compile KDE. This is Ubuntu with kde-desktop |
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| 13:12.36 | Fuchs | Sicnus: open systemsettings, go to displays and configure the second one as extended, not clone |
| 13:12.53 | Fuchs | (you should just be able to drag it to the right or left of your primary device, depending on what you prefer) |
| 13:15.44 | Sicnus | yeah... I don't think I'm stating it clearly enough... I have "One Desktop"(with 2 monitors) [it's not mirrored] But... It's really "2 desktops" as in ~/Desktop dir... seperate on each monitor as they both have: ~/ (Home) and ~/Trash (Trash) icons... I'd like just ONE desktop where the icons span the entire screen (two monitors) |
| 13:17.05 | Sicnus | so if I put something on Monitor #2 it is in ~/Desktop and if I put something on Monitor #1 it also goes to ~/Desktop (aka: Default behavior for every other WM I've ever used -- and even KDE in the old days) |
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| 13:17.39 | Sicnus | meaning, you only have need of one Home / Trash icons on your desktop |
| 13:18.03 | Triffid_Hunter | Sicnus: heh I don't even know how to make kde *not* do what you want.. it's been single desktop across multiple screens since years ago for me |
| 13:18.40 | Sicnus | k :/ I blame the Germans. |
| 13:19.00 | tosky | Sicnus: do you use the folder view or the desktop (right click on the desktop, last item, configure <something>, the first item) |
| 13:19.02 | tosky | ? |
| 13:21.19 | Sicnus | yeah... KDE just confuses the heck out of me with the Plasma stuff... :/ I don't understand why when you have it on Desktop view you don't see icons... |
| 13:21.51 | Sicnus | Cause in my ~/Desktop folder I have: Home.desktop trash.desktop (and foo... did touch foo) |
| 13:21.54 | tosky | because the desktop view is a container |
| 13:21.58 | tosky | you can put plasmoids in it |
| 13:22.10 | tosky | and this is all about Plasma - KDE is the name of the community, not the name of the desktop |
| 13:22.13 | Sicnus | so if I "Show Desktop" as the view... why wouldn't I see things in ~/Desktop dir? |
| 13:22.17 | Sicnus | heh |
| 13:22.25 | tosky | I'd suggest to select the folder view |
| 13:22.49 | Sicnus | Folder view shows Home / Trash icons on BOTH monitors. |
| 13:22.55 | tosky | not for me |
| 13:22.59 | tosky | which version of Plasma? |
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| 13:23.32 | Sicnus | sec let me find out how to do an about |
| 13:24.10 | tosky | kinfocenter |
| 13:24.55 | Sicnus | thanks. 5.10.5 |
| 13:25.17 | tosky | try to see if your distribution has a newer version |
| 13:25.19 | tosky | it probably has |
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| 13:25.49 | Sicnus | just did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade last week but ... ok. |
| 13:25.55 | Sicnus | kubuntu 17.10 |
| 13:25.55 | tosky | which distribution? |
| 13:26.06 | tosky | oh, well, kubuntu 18.04 is close |
| 13:26.27 | Sicnus | ahh so mine is outdated huh? |
| 13:27.48 | Sicnus | tosky: thanks for your help. Been a KDE user since KFM 0.0.1 :) [I've bounced around over the years, but came back to KDE about a year ago...] I enjoy it except for this one silly thing that just bugs me to no end. |
| 13:31.32 | tosky | the latest Plasma is 5.12.x, and the new *ubuntu will have it |
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| 14:14.00 | JanKusanagi | for the record, Kubuntu has a PPA for newer versions of Plasma, they're always announcing those in Planet KDE |
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| 14:20.18 | JanKusanagi | see for instance https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-2-bugfix-updates-available/ |
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| 14:48.49 | MichaelTunnell | anyone interested in KTimer having scriptable command options? reply with a "metoo" on https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=225&t=151367 |
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| 15:10.46 | nshiell | Has anyone heard of https://github.com/KDE/klook before? |
| 15:11.06 | nshiell | A space-bar involked previewer for Dolphin? |
| 15:11.17 | nshiell | Siminalr to quick-lkook in OSX Finder |
| 15:11.20 | nshiell | *look |
| 15:12.08 | tosky | not updated since ages |
| 15:12.36 | tosky | it's still Qt4 |
| 15:12.48 | nshiell | :( shame |
| 15:12.57 | asturm | qt4-- |
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| 15:14.48 | nshiell | I'm running KDE Neon here, Gwenview is quite heavy for previewing fullscreen IMHO |
| 15:15.10 | nshiell | I just want a quick app that can open jpegs fullscreen and disapear quicly |
| 15:15.27 | asturm | kuickshow, maybe? ;) |
| 15:15.46 | nshiell | ... 1min |
| 15:16.15 | tosky | heavy? |
| 15:18.10 | nshiell | Just for previewing images I don't want to load up a whole organiser, I wish Dolphin allowed fullscreen previewing |
| 15:18.25 | nshiell | I'm gonna try kuickshow |
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| 15:25.39 | LazyGnoll | if you have sort-by-date enabled, gwenview takes a bit longer to launch, so switching to sort-by-name can help in that case |
| 15:26.11 | LazyGnoll | iirc it's because it tries to load metadata from every file in the folder and locks up the ui until it's done, there was a bug opened about this, I think |
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| 15:34.29 | zeltak | Hi all. silly Q. for the life of me i cant seem to find out how to map alt-tab to switch between two latest windows |
| 15:34.32 | zeltak | any clue? |
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| 15:37.23 | thiago | it's the default |
| 15:37.35 | thiago | Alt+Tab switches to the last used window |
| 15:37.48 | thiago | once you've switched, the window that was current is the last used window |
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| 15:52.21 | nshiell | GNOME Image viewer is thwe best aplication for what I want, easier to install than kuickshow |
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| 15:52.41 | asturm | easier to install? |
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| 15:55.36 | BCMM | kuickshow is kinda abandoned |
| 15:55.45 | BCMM | meaning distros don't package it |
| 15:55.55 | asturm | BCMM: 0.10.0 tagged on cgit.kde.org is kf5-based |
| 15:56.48 | asturm | from few weeks ago actually |
| 15:56.52 | BCMM | oh that is intriguing actually, i miss kuickshow |
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| 15:58.24 | sputnick | Hi |
| 15:58.25 | nshiell | Sometimes I just wan't a quick app to preview, then open in GIMP or whatever, the menubar, toolars, titlebars, statusbars look ugly if I just want a preview |
| 15:58.32 | sputnick | in kde4, we was able to add an action in dolphin via right click using a /usr/share/applications/foobar.desktop. This now didn't work with plasma5, any clue ? |
| 15:59.16 | MichaelTunnell | digikam works in a modular method so it might be possible to just use the viewer of it to load photos |
| 15:59.52 | nshiell | Might install digikam, looks cool |
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| 16:00.26 | nshiell | What are peoples thoughts on applications that draw their own titlebars and other chrome? In the OSX world it's quite common |
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| 16:01.16 | MichaelTunnell | nshiell: you can disable the toolbar, statusbar, and sidebar in Gwenview if you only want a preview approach. |
| 16:01.51 | JanKusanagi | nshiell: my thoughs â cancer |
| 16:02.06 | MichaelTunnell | I have most of that disabled on my until I need it and with just pressing F4 or F3 brings the tools I need. :) |
| 16:02.08 | nshiell | Hi, how do I private messgae using this? |
| 16:02.18 | JanKusanagi | *thoughts |
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| 16:03.59 | MichaelTunnell | nshiell: using what? what client? are you a registered user? |
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| 16:13.04 | Shibe | does kde 5.12 have support for pipewire screen capture? |
| 16:13.10 | Shibe | or is it coming in 5.13? |
| 16:14.58 | MichaelTunnell | I dont think pipewire is at a point for production yet |
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| 16:15.09 | Shibe | aha, thanks |
| 16:16.01 | MichaelTunnell | yea pipewire is still in the "compile from source" stage so it's not ready yet |
| 16:16.51 | MichaelTunnell | you can join #pipewire for more info or to confirm my comment if you'd like |
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| 16:23.49 | enleth | Hi there. I'm trying to figure out a seriously weird visual glitch in KMail, not sure what to report except for a screenshot: https://hackerspace.pl/~enleth/Pictures/Screenshot_20180305_171630.png - there is a pseudo-transparent square at an absolute offset from the top-left window corner. It's been there for a couple KMail versions now. xwininfo considers it a part of the main window. it displays whatever |
| 16:23.55 | enleth | was there on the screen when the kmail window is unminimized, moving the window afterwards does not update it. hovering mouse on it displays a vertical splitter movement cursor. compositing has no effect on its appearance or behavior. |
| 16:24.01 | enleth | doesn't react to clicking or dragging. |
| 16:24.09 | enleth | and this is all I figured out about that. |
| 16:24.21 | enleth | probably the weirdest GUI bug on Linux I've ever seen. |
| 16:24.44 | kishore96 | Your screenshot link is 404. |
| 16:24.56 | enleth | ah, crap |
| 16:25.12 | enleth | https://hackerspace.pl/~enleth/Screenshot_20180305_171630.png there |
| 16:25.25 | enleth | any ideas? should I just dump what I wrote and the screenshot on bugs.kde.org? |
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| 18:08.56 | la_putin_ | why wont konversation let me copy text anymore? |
| 18:09.11 | la_putin_ | the copy option is greyed out even tho there is text selected |
| 18:09.16 | la_putin_ | grayed* |
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| 18:11.45 | zeltak | thiago: thx for the answer. right now alt-tab just walks through all window one after another |
| 18:12.03 | zeltak | so pressing alt tab once wont return to previous app but rather keep going to the next app |
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| 18:35.11 | jankusanagi_ | just a matter of cheking the Task Switcher options in the Window Manager settings |
| 18:35.28 | jankusanagi_ | make sure "sort order" is set to "recently used" |
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| 18:48.48 | zeltak | jankusanagi_: |
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| 18:48.50 | zeltak | thx |
| 18:49.06 | zeltak | but for me i need to press alt-tab twice for some reason |
| 18:49.17 | zeltak | jankusanagi_: https://paste.xinu.at/ike/ |
| 18:49.22 | zeltak | my current setiings |
| 18:51.07 | jankusanagi_ | recent Plasma? |
| 18:51.50 | jankusanagi_ | I remember 5.8 (the previous LTS) having an issue with alt-tab acting weird after some time, but I haven't seen that in ages, since 5.10 or so |
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| 20:14.37 | rdorsch | I would like to run "xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap" after resuming from suspend. Is there a hook which is called after resume from suspend in KDE? |
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| 20:27.43 | thiago | rdorsch: no, KDE barely sees the suspend |
| 20:28.03 | thiago | this is all systemd and it tells loginctl to tell the screen greeter to lock the screen |
| 20:28.12 | thiago | that happens before suspend |
| 20:28.18 | thiago | we don't get told anything further. |
| 20:28.29 | thiago | why do you need to run xmodmap? |
| 20:29.08 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma's notifications can run things, and there are notifications for screen locked and unlocked |
| 20:29.12 | jankusanagi_ | maybe you could use that |
| 20:29.41 | rdorsch | thiago: I do not know, but at least sometimes the xmodmap settings are lost during suspend. |
| 20:29.58 | rdorsch | (I change the keyboard layout somewhat) |
| 20:30.37 | rdorsch | jankusanagi_ that is a good idea, since we I return from suspend, I unlock the screen :-) |
| 20:31.21 | thiago | do you run it at logon too? |
| 20:31.47 | thiago | the "sometimes" is probably related to it detecting the keyboard disconnecting and reconnecting |
| 20:33.27 | rdorsch | thiago, that is also a very good observation, sometimes I indeed connect the keyboard via an usb switch to another computer. |
| 20:33.42 | rdorsch | yes, I run it at logon. |
| 20:34.06 | rdorsch | I do that manually, the pain point was not yet high, since that happens rarely that a do a new logon |
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| 20:35.42 | svuorela | I wouldn't want xmodmap things on unlock - I have some bad experiences with runnig xmodmap with many applications open and using the keyboard at the same time. |
| 20:36.27 | svuorela | basically ending up with alt or ctrl constantly down |
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| 20:38.54 | rdorsch | svuorela, do you know what is causing the trouble? I could easily add e.g. a sleep 5 before executing xmodmap. |
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| 20:39.50 | rdorsch | Or do you have a better workaround of not getting a notice on the resume? |
| 20:40.14 | thiago | rdorsch: you should figure out a set of udev rules/properties to have that automatically applied |
| 20:40.25 | thiago | rdorsch: Xorg get the config directly from udev these days |
| 20:40.36 | thiago | what sort of rules do you run? is it a key mapping? or modifier? |
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| 20:40.55 | svuorela | rdorsch: I would expect it is something with X receiving a keyboard event at the same time as the xmodmap gets propriagated to all the x clients. |
| 20:41.10 | svuorela | rdorsch: but it might also be related to me remapping *all* keys. Including caps lock. |
| 20:41.39 | svuorela | but given that xmodmap is deprecated for like a decade, I'm not into spending time on investigating it |
| 20:42.02 | rdorsch | thiago: http://paste.debian.net/1013270/ |
| 20:42.20 | rdorsch | I am remapping a few keys (the konqi stuff is not important anymore) |
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| 20:42.33 | rdorsch | i.e. only the first 6 lines are relevant. |
| 20:42.47 | thiago | changing keycodes. Those should never change due to connect and disconnect |
| 20:42.49 | rdorsch | How would udev find the right X session? |
| 20:43.10 | thiago | I just modify the /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ file directly |
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| 20:43.20 | rdorsch | ok,then they must be lost for another reason. |
| 20:43.39 | thiago | as for mode_switch, there's an option in the System Settings keyboard config to configure which key it's on |
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| 20:44.38 | thiago | as for 233 and 234, are those the actual keycaps or are you just remapping some existing keys? |
| 20:45.41 | rdorsch | svuorela: I use that mapping file since 20 year :-) |
| 20:47.40 | rdorsch | thiago: as mentioned before, the 233 and 234 I do not really need anymore, I cannot even tell for sure what I used it for... |
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| 21:03.29 | jankusanagi_ | maybe you should try modern ways, for a change =) |
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| 21:13.26 | AppAraat | hmm, I tell krunner to exclude windows in searches yet when I type "konsole" it comes up with my opened konsole windows. Is this normal? |
| 21:13.34 | rdorsch | jankusanagi_:yes, that is probably the way to go. I found in the arch wiki something about remapping keys with udev: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Map_scancodes_to_keycodes |
| 21:13.43 | rdorsch | I will try that eventually. |
| 21:19.08 | AppAraat | uh, has anyone successfully ran KDE Neon on a Raspberry Pi? |
| 21:22.32 | jankusanagi_ | krunner ignores proviously opened Konsoles here |
| 21:22.43 | jankusanagi_ | Mageia, Plasma 5.12.2 |
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| 21:27.17 | AppAraat | ignores as in: Do those konsole windows show up despite you having specified not to search for application windows? |
| 21:33.03 | jankusanagi_ | no, as in: I have that plugin disabled, and the already opened windows don't show up when I type "Konsole" into krunner |
| 21:34.06 | jankusanagi_ | I get the 3 expected entries, "Konsole" and "Yakuake" under Applications, and "Run konsole" under "Command Line" =) |
| 21:34.26 | jankusanagi_ | there are no entries for currently running Konsoles |
| 21:34.57 | jankusanagi_ | in other words: your bug doesn't happen here |
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| 21:36.15 | AppAraat | hmm, well I killed krunner and then started it again and now it doesn't show those window entries |
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| 21:44.04 | jankusanagi_ | I hope "killed" means "kquitapp5" xD |
| 21:44.37 | AppAraat | oh, oops :p |
| 21:46.48 | ArsenArsen | Why does the context menu in mumble on right click show up as only transparent a bit of shadow |
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| 22:26.38 | ArsenArsen | Oh. Wayland. Of course. |
| 22:26.52 | ArsenArsen | How can I make it NOT do wayland, considering the wayland option isn't even selected in sddm |
| 22:27.19 | asturm | ArsenArsen: why do you think it 'does' wayland? |
| 22:27.41 | asturm | you're either in an X session or a wayland session |
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| 22:33.02 | L-4 | Hey, does anyone know what this window is, and how I can remove it? https://imgur.com/a/qNZcd |
| 22:33.22 | L-4 | Right clicking gives me "task manager settings", but when I google for that, people seem to be thinking of something else |
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| 22:34.41 | ArsenArsen | asturm, SDDM was screwing up and putting me in a wayland one, works now though |
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| 22:36.32 | JanKusanagi | L-4: that's a taskmanager (either one of them) plasmoid |
| 22:36.41 | JanKusanagi | only that's floating on desktop instead of put into a panel :D |
| 22:36.59 | L-4 | Hmm, so how can I remove it? |
| 22:37.15 | L-4 | There aren't any right-click options specific to that pane other than the settings |
| 22:37.26 | JanKusanagi | like any other plasmoid |
| 22:37.38 | JanKusanagi | first, make sure the desktop is "unlocked" |
| 22:37.56 | L-4 | That would be the widgets, correct? |
| 22:38.12 | JanKusanagi | the "lock widgets" or "unlock widgets" option, yes |
| 22:38.17 | JanKusanagi | available in many places |
| 22:38.24 | L-4 | Yeah, got it |
| 22:39.34 | L-4 | And next? |
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| 22:43.57 | L-4 | You there? |
| 22:48.12 | JanKusanagi | so, next |
| 22:48.25 | JanKusanagi | if you don't get controls for the widgets when hovering the mouse over them |
| 22:48.30 | JanKusanagi | then you need to click and hold |
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| 22:49.25 | L-4 | I managed to google plasmoid and remove it via some config file |
| 22:49.32 | L-4 | Thanks for the point in the right direction though! |
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| 22:52.26 | JanKusanagi | wow, you went the crazy way... |
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| 22:52.33 | JanKusanagi | the regular way is so simple... |
| 22:52.56 | JanKusanagi | plus, often NOT a good idea to manually edit config files of a running program |
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| 22:54.05 | L-4 | I tried the click and hold method, it didn't do anything |
| 22:54.34 | L-4 | Besides, when I checked the config, it said that it was immutable, I assume that that means that it wasn't removable by normal means |
| 22:54.46 | JanKusanagi | I've never heard of such a thing |
| 22:55.28 | L-4 | Here's how I fixed it: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=130681 |
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| 22:57.37 | L-4 | Well thanks again for your help! |
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