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| 00:19.18 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.12 and KDE Applications 17.12 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
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| 01:35.34 | DarwinElf | thanks again for making KDE since the days of early KDE3.5 or probably a bit before, when I used it |
| 01:37.12 | DarwinElf | I'm trying to switch, equally because of buggy/missing features, and fragmentation, like one could say KDE, KDE2, KDE3, KDE4, now, similar to after the fall & split of the Roman Empire (Holy Roman Empire and Byzantine Roman Empire) one can't say anything ('KDE5' supposed wrong term vs 'P5' sounding like 586 or 986) |
| 01:38.26 | DarwinElf | apart from minor bugs I can live with for now, this is a main feature I consider missing, an optional 'program manager' style interface for icon groups: https://www.kirsle.net/creativity/articles/doswin31.png . I have 120 program icons I want to see every day just as a reminder, which filled my desktop, so I need a program manager's icon group boxes back |
| 01:38.57 | jankusanagi_ | There was no KDE4 either, that was Plasma 4 =) |
| 01:39.38 | adomas | jankusanagi_, there was KDE 4, then KDE SC 4, then KDE Plasma 4 |
| 01:39.41 | jankusanagi_ | and you could do the "program manager groups" with several folderviews |
| 01:39.50 | adomas | at the time of KDE 4 they have done brand repositioning |
| 01:40.23 | jankusanagi_ | no, Plasma 4 was there since the beginning, but the "separation of concepts" wasn't done after ~1 year later |
| 01:40.42 | DarwinElf | I tried folder views. Most program icons didn't display and didn't launch. A few did |
| 01:41.56 | jankusanagi_ | btw, just saying "Plasma" is really easy =) |
| 01:42.02 | jankusanagi_ | re: "one can't say anything" |
| 01:42.21 | adomas | for me feels weird when people refer to Plasma 5 as KDE5... :) |
| 01:42.24 | DarwinElf | actually, it's 2/5 harder |
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| 01:42.50 | DarwinElf | miscounted... twice as hard, I meant |
| 01:43.08 | jankusanagi_ | longer doesn't mean harder |
| 01:43.18 | jankusanagi_ | that's a weird sentence... |
| 01:43.36 | DarwinElf | didn't claim I was writing formally, did I? this is just a conversation |
| 01:43.48 | DarwinElf | unless writing essays or books, I write as if one might talk |
| 01:44.22 | DarwinElf | your previous sentence does sound weird, might be followed by "that's what she said" |
| 01:44.39 | DarwinElf | and if I can't set up each folder view--after each icon even works--to not look like in a file manager, it's not worth it |
| 01:44.40 | jankusanagi_ | that was my point :D |
| 01:44.44 | DarwinElf | haha, ok |
| 01:45.10 | jankusanagi_ | folderview contents look just like in Dolphin |
| 01:45.18 | jankusanagi_ | or rather, they can |
| 01:47.53 | jankusanagi_ | and copying the .desktop for Firefox to a folderview looks and works as I'd expect |
| 01:48.20 | DarwinElf | where do I read about 'folderview?' |
| 01:49.07 | DarwinElf | that's fine but I'm sure you can find some .desktop files it won't work at all copied somewhere else... not even just stuff like from WINE (don't have many of those) but many more than that didn't display, or didn't launch (out of my 120) |
| 01:49.17 | jankusanagi_ | in the Userbase wiki, I imagine |
| 01:49.25 | jankusanagi_ | but I'd just experiment with it, it's quite simple |
| 01:49.57 | jankusanagi_ | if your .desktop files are not well made, well... they might need adjustments |
| 01:50.01 | jankusanagi_ | nothing that can't be done |
| 01:50.34 | DarwinElf | great :( |
| 01:51.44 | jankusanagi_ | what's the problem? |
| 01:52.19 | DarwinElf | too many .desktop files to fix, before even making that 'folderview' look like in link I posted... which then won't be combined into a program manager, but that part isn't as big a deal |
| 01:52.46 | DarwinElf | after such a program manager was invented it should've been available in X WMs in the early 1990s, not reinventing the wheel almost 30 years later |
| 01:52.56 | DarwinElf | I might still try it |
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| 01:53.19 | DarwinElf | if I start/open almost 60GB of graphics in GIMP is P5 going to crash? (I have 64GB RAM) |
| 01:53.35 | DarwinElf | that's what happened to me last year incessantly... why I'm still on P4 |
| 01:53.58 | jankusanagi_ | I don't see how that's related to either version of Plasma... |
| 01:55.10 | DarwinElf | well it doesn't happen as much on P4 |
| 01:55.40 | DarwinElf | or if I do that while opening a lot of other programs, but using a lot of my RAM, just not enough that I even need swap space |
| 01:56.11 | DarwinElf | if I do that and do many things in other programs (also other than graphics,) last year P5 was just regularly halting each week |
| 01:56.23 | DarwinElf | and still, P4 doesn't |
| 01:56.45 | DarwinElf | I want to upgrade again for certain new features but it has to be stable & powerful enough |
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| 02:00.49 | DarwinElf | stuff made/added in Plasma from beginning to recent P5 became more & more useful, that I even would probably rather use it than switch back to KDE3.5 (OpenBSD) or TDE (would have to use an unofficial Slackware build script) even though P4 & 5 started missing a few more & more features that were fun... just were partly explained, why the KDE programmers think that makes it not as good (i.e., ability to have a desktop gradient and a desktop image file or |
| 02:00.50 | DarwinElf | slideshow at the sme time)... the part that wasn't explained why it's better is the way it changed to configure the panel... I still hate it after KDE3 (after which too much motion and too many areas are involved instead of a simple right-button-select) but the other features are worth it |
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| 08:53.41 | Guest43451 | help! unable to installa new decorator manually under ~/.kde/share/apps/deKorator |
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| 08:56.41 | prillian5 | I have this line in an .desktop-file: |
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| 08:58.28 | ychaouche | Hello #kde |
| 08:59.25 | ychaouche | I have system monitor open. It shows two ksnapshot processes in the process table tab, but I can't find them using ps PID |
| 08:59.54 | ychaouche | This is a computer at work I left on yesterday |
| 09:00.32 | Triffid_Hunter | ychaouche: ps collapses threads afaik, check htop which doesn't seem to do this |
| 09:01.13 | ychaouche | htop > / > ksnap (no results found) |
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| 09:02.06 | Triffid_Hunter | ychaouche: maybe ksysmon has a bug and keeps old listings? |
| 09:02.20 | ychaouche | kould be, idk |
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| 09:07.19 | ychaouche | i closed ksysmon and reopend it, the processes disappeared. |
| 09:07.38 | Triffid_Hunter | bingo, it's not flushing its list properly somehow |
| 09:12.30 | ltosky[m] | is it an old version? If you still use ksnapshot, your system may be a bit old |
| 09:13.30 | ychaouche | 4.13.3 |
| 09:14.50 | ychaouche | no bugs found for "ksysmon" on bugs.kde.org |
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| 09:36.41 | aleksander0m | so after a diff task in phabricator.kde.org is "accepted and ready to land", who is in charge of doing the actual landing? I got such a diff task (https://phabricator.kde.org/D10366) in that state since early last month and hasn't gotten in git master yet |
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| 09:42.34 | aleksander0m | jgrulich^ I tried arc land myself but got a "fatal: remote error: service not enabled", not sure if that's just because I'm not supposed to do the arc land myself |
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| 10:09.30 | pdobrogost_ | Hi all! |
| 10:13.09 | pdobrogost_ | Is there a way to set title of specific window. I found only this â âOverride the window title for an arbitrary window in KDE and set a custom window titleâ (https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/22561/5355) |
| 10:14.49 | leszek | it works as long as the application is not changing or updating the window title |
| 10:15.21 | pdobrogost_ | Also is there a way to match specific window by some unique id in Special Window Settings⦠? |
| 10:16.13 | oprypin | pdobrogost_, sure, most of the time. have you tried "detect window settings"? |
| 10:16.27 | oprypin | go to kwin rules |
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| 10:16.51 | pdobrogost_ | leszek: Almost every application changes its title. This should work on some update title hook to stay persistent. |
| 10:17.21 | pdobrogost_ | oprypin: Nowhere there is such property of window as âunique idâ. |
| 10:18.12 | leszek | pdobrogost_: I am not sure how this should work. Maybe kwin scripting could help and you could check if a specific window title changes and then change it back. Though not sure if that works. |
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| 10:24.35 | pdobrogost_ | oprypin: By unique id I mean the one you get with `xprop -root _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW` for instance. |
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| 10:30.07 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 10:43.25 | prillian5 | What is the way to package an dolphin-ServiceMenu script, to make it installable by mouseclick directly inside dolphin? |
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| 10:46.18 | monyarm | I'm getting the following when i try to change account details: The module Account Details is not a valid module. The diagnosis is: The desktop file settings-personalization-accountdetails.desktop does not specify a library. |
| 10:46.24 | prillian5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.41 | prillian5 | How do I have to package my script for that? |
| 10:48.14 | monyarm | I actually managed to fix my issue, turns out if you use the search bar in settings to search for a group, it wont let you choose one of the options of that group (like how Account Details has KDE Wallet and User Manager) |
| 10:49.22 | leszek | prillian5: I am not entirely sure but take a look at store.kde.org at those which are downloadable via ghns and copy their work |
| 10:49.40 | leszek | monyarm: yeah it filters out stuff matching your search |
| 10:50.56 | monyarm | Ya its simply that i expected it to expand when i selected it |
| 10:51.24 | monyarm | Anyone know how i can remove the white rim from the user icon in the lockscreen ? |
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| 10:59.11 | BluesKaj | â BTW, Happy Pi Day to all ! |
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| 11:00.47 | prillian5 | Ok, have upload the package. Maybe have a look at... and I'm glad if you could rate my first dolphin-service-menu ^^ https://store.kde.org/p/1222164/ |
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| 11:32.38 | tjbp | Hi all, does anyone know how to configure KMail's quota threshold for marking folders red? I have a 73% full mailbox and all the folders are now red... |
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| 13:57.02 | yates | when using my editor (emacs) i get a popup which steals focus in a most annoying manner. where is it coming from and how do i obliterate the offender? |
| 13:58.15 | yates | it often happens when i highlight/select some text, e.g., highlighting "http://www.disablethispopup.com" will invoke "Actiions for HTML document..." |
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| 14:01.34 | yates | is it klipper? |
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| 14:04.44 | yates | <knock knock> |
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| 14:06.24 | rdieter | yates: yes, klipper can be configured for actions based on selection |
| 14:07.33 | rdieter | depends a little of you're actually using klipper vs newer plasma clipboard applet (both support the feature, but newer applet has no predefined actions by default, whereas klipper does I believe) |
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| 14:09.38 | yates | this is fedora 25 kde spin, so definitely not new |
| 14:10.46 | yates | klipper 5.10.5 |
| 14:11.16 | konam | Hello everyone, is there a way to click on a grouped window in the task manager and have it bring up the window you focused last instead of showing a list of the grouped windows? |
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| 14:34.22 | yates | rdieter: so if i have a binary calle klipper, that means i'm using klipper and not the newer plasma clipboard applet? |
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| 14:34.32 | la_putin | somehow copy is disabled again ;-; |
| 14:34.38 | la_putin | in konversation |
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| 14:38.44 | rdieter | yates: no |
| 14:39.10 | yates | so how do i tell which one is being used? |
| 14:39.42 | yates | or otherwise disable this behavior? |
| 14:39.51 | yates | i've already right-clicked and disabled all actions |
| 14:39.58 | rdieter | yates: that should do it then |
| 14:40.05 | yates | do you have to log out/in? |
| 14:40.21 | rdieter | I wouldn't expect that to be necessary, but maybe? |
| 14:40.27 | rdieter | (or just restart plasmashell) |
| 14:41.23 | yates | ok |
| 14:41.30 | yates | let me try restarting emacs first |
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| 14:42.16 | tdn | I have a KDE machine that is used by some 30 users. In the login manager, they currently need to click their username and enter password. This is frustrating due to the large amount of users. How do I make the users able to just TYPE IN their username and password instead of having to click? |
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| 14:43.31 | BCMM | tdn: what DM are you using? |
| 14:45.31 | Fuchs | who operates the KDE community twitter account? |
| 14:45.53 | bshah | kde promo team I believe |
| 14:46.00 | Fuchs | just for future reference, as it was wrong twice now: freenode, lower case, thank you very much ⥠|
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| 14:49.36 | tdn | BCMM, sddm |
| 14:49.39 | jankusanagi_ | tdn: is that a recent(ish) version of Plasma? if so, you're probably using SDDM as a login manager |
| 14:49.49 | jankusanagi_ | ah ok |
| 14:50.01 | jankusanagi_ | so there's a configuration module for it in Plasma's System Settings |
| 14:50.03 | tdn | jankusanagi_, this is the one that is in debian 9 |
| 14:50.16 | jankusanagi_ | you can select a different theme, several of which provide a username field |
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| 14:50.43 | tdn | jankusanagi_, oh, it is a theme thing... |
| 14:50.45 | jankusanagi_ | Workspace â Startup and Shutdown â Login Screen |
| 14:51.22 | tdn | jankusanagi_, yeah, I am there, but cannot seem to find anyything on this. |
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| 14:51.28 | BCMM | tdn: get a different sddm theme. e.g. https://store.kde.org/p/1084929/ |
| 14:51.31 | tdn | jankusanagi_, and did not figure out that this was a theme specific thing |
| 14:51.32 | jankusanagi_ | well, there are more "obscure" ways of tuning a theme, and some maybe could be configured to show a username field, but I think it's easier to simply use a different theme that's already as you want it |
| 14:51.35 | yates | rdieter: still there after rebooting. |
| 14:51.42 | yates | here is a picture of the popup |
| 14:51.43 | yates | https://imgur.com/a/tRSLN |
| 14:52.01 | yates | is this really klipper/clipboard? |
| 14:52.10 | tdn | jaanI only have two themes available and they are called the same thing "debian maui" |
| 14:52.10 | jankusanagi_ | for instance, in my Mageia, I have "Elarun" available as an option, and that one has username field |
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| 14:52.26 | jankusanagi_ | Maldives seems to also provide username field |
| 14:52.36 | jankusanagi_ | well, install more themes then =) |
| 14:53.15 | tdn | jankusanagi_, yeah I'll do that. |
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| 14:53.51 | jankusanagi_ | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/sddm-theme-debian-elarun the Elarun I mentioned in Mageia, also packaged in Debian |
| 14:54.11 | jankusanagi_ | https://packages.debian.org/sid/sddm-theme-elarun â and the regular version :D |
| 14:54.31 | jankusanagi_ | I see Maldives an Maya are also packaged |
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| 14:57.39 | yates | rdieter: do you have any more suggestions? |
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| 14:58.39 | yates | i really don't want ANY clipboard actions of any sort, other than what existed 20 years ago. |
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| 14:59.01 | yates | if i could completely remove the applicaiton providing this feature, i'd be very happy |
| 14:59.05 | rdieter | yates: try clicking the "disable this popup" ? |
| 14:59.23 | yates | i have. repeatedly. it keeps coming up, regardless |
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| 14:59.37 | jankusanagi_ | you don't want the clipboard manager? |
| 14:59.39 | rdieter | run ksysguard, double check if klipper is running |
| 15:00.17 | rdieter | I've no other ideas |
| 15:00.58 | yates | rdieter: klipper is not running. i sorted by name and "klipper" is not named. |
| 15:01.06 | tdn | jankusanagi_, thanks. It works |
| 15:01.49 | jankusanagi_ | =) |
| 15:02.20 | jankusanagi_ | sorted by name? Ksysguard has a nice filter field that saves you a lot of work for that :D |
| 15:03.06 | jankusanagi_ | if you don't want to use the clipboard manager, you can uncheck it in the systray options |
| 15:03.09 | konam | Hey guys, I wonder if there is a way to click on a group window in the task manager and have it bring up the one you focused last instead of showing a list of the grouped windows? |
| 15:04.13 | yates | jankusanagi_: do you mean using "Configure Clipboard", which shows when i right-click on the systray icon? |
| 15:05.05 | yates | or is this something in system settigns? |
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| 15:06.08 | jankusanagi_ | no, I mean the System Tray settings |
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| 15:06.16 | jankusanagi_ | settings for the System Tray itself |
| 15:06.27 | yates | and where are those? i've looked and do not see any such item. |
| 15:06.38 | jankusanagi_ | can be tricky to access sometimes, you "just" need to right-click an empty part of the system tray |
| 15:07.27 | jankusanagi_ | then in the "general" category, under "Extra items", uncheck Clipboard |
| 15:07.37 | mib22 | Hy. Is it posible to configure kde to have context-menu popups with white background instead light grey? I could change "Window background" in color scheme but then normal windows also have white bg. |
| 15:08.03 | yates | thank God! |
| 15:08.10 | yates | and thank you, jankusanagi_ |
| 15:08.34 | yates | i was ready to switch DE's just to prevent this highly irritating behavior. |
| 15:09.30 | yates | i am an emacs user - requiring me to take my hands off the keyboard every time a selection is made is unacceptable |
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| 15:11.33 | jankusanagi_ | I haven't seen what popups were bothering you, but usually most notifications in Plasma can be disabled |
| 15:11.54 | yates | for instance: https://imgur.com/a/tRSLN |
| 15:12.25 | yates | when this popup occurred, it stole focus from emacs |
| 15:13.03 | jankusanagi_ | and alt-tab didn't bring it back? |
| 15:13.37 | jankusanagi_ | hm, that popup has a beautiful "disable this popup" option... I guess you tried that xD |
| 15:14.12 | BCMM | is there any way to make the Breeze and Breeze-Dark GTK themes actually follow KDE's colour scheme? |
| 15:14.42 | yates | suggested change in kde policy: default all non-essential applets/behaviors to "disabled". if the user wants it, he can enable it explicitly. |
| 15:14.45 | BCMM | or do i need to stick with one of those two stock colour schemes if i want everything to match? |
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| 15:14.51 | jankusanagi_ | Breeze follows Plasma's color scheme AFAIK |
| 15:15.01 | jankusanagi_ | (I use Oxygen, which of course, also follows that) |
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| 15:15.37 | jankusanagi_ | yates: with that in mind, ""the user"" will never know that some wonderful options exist =) |
| 15:15.38 | BCMM | jankusanagi_: *plasma's* colour scheme? not the application colour scheme? |
| 15:15.39 | yates | jankusanagi_: i don't want to have to "disable the popup". i didn't ask for it, and i never wanted it. |
| 15:15.49 | jankusanagi_ | it's easier for the _advanced_ user to disable things than the other way around |
| 15:16.30 | jankusanagi_ | wow... on behalf of the developers, sorry for not reading your mind on what you wanted, yates... |
| 15:16.59 | jankusanagi_ | BCMM: the general DE's color scheme, "KDE" is a community, not software |
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| 15:17.30 | jankusanagi_ | which btw, Plasmashell's Breeze theme also follows |
| 15:17.34 | yates | jankusanagi_: i chose linux and kde precisly because i wanted to get away from Gates' policy of "WE know better how you want to use your computer than YOU do" |
| 15:17.45 | BCMM | jankusanagi_: i was unaware that system settings is considered part of Plasma now |
| 15:18.04 | yates | i dare say many linux/kde users are similar mindset. |
| 15:18.04 | jankusanagi_ | well, it's v5.12 too =) |
| 15:18.14 | jankusanagi_ | yates: nobody's saying how YOU should use anything |
| 15:18.22 | jankusanagi_ | but defaults CANNOT be exactly what you want |
| 15:18.26 | jankusanagi_ | that's what options are for |
| 15:19.01 | yates | suggested change in kde policy: default all non-essential applets/behaviors to "disabled". if the user wants it, he can enable it explicitly. |
| 15:19.08 | yates | i'm done. |
| 15:19.32 | jankusanagi_ | ... wow |
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| 15:20.13 | jankusanagi_ | suggested non-change in policy: don't do that xD |
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| 15:22.41 | tosky | oh, the clipboard action |
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| 15:23.05 | tosky | that's can be discussed, but it's not like we have many fancy popup options otherwise going on |
| 15:23.08 | BCMM | jankusanagi_: fyi, i was talking specifically about the breeze *GTK* themes, not the Qt style as used in kde applications |
| 15:23.56 | BCMM | and i'm now pretty sure they can't follow colour schemes, because there are pixmaps like /usr/share/themes/Breeze-Dark/assets/togglebutton-active.png with the colours baked-in |
| 15:24.12 | jankusanagi_ | ah, I thought you meant both |
| 15:24.28 | jankusanagi_ | the GTK versions can't follow custom color schemes now, AFAIK |
| 15:24.39 | jankusanagi_ | since GTK3 is a mess :D |
| 15:25.12 | jankusanagi_ | the GTK2 version will, but GTK3 is another (sad, messy, crappy) story |
| 15:26.21 | jankusanagi_ | that's why there's such a thing as "breeze" and "breeze-dark" |
| 15:26.50 | jankusanagi_ | instead of just "breeze" using whatever color scheme the user wants... the GTK world's weird like that xD |
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| 15:35.14 | BCMM | jankusanagi_: yeah, i was kind of hoping that breeze-dark was just, like, tweaked to avoid weird contrast or something |
| 15:35.35 | BCMM | i guess i could hue shift those PNGs en-masse with mogrify |
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| 15:39.46 | yann-kaelig | elo |
| 15:39.49 | jankusanagi_ | what's your issue, exactly? |
| 15:40.04 | BCMM | oh, i just want to change colours |
| 15:40.04 | yann-kaelig | there is no virtualkeyboard to use with kde plasma ? |
| 15:40.12 | BCMM | oh you were talking to yann-kaelig, sorry |
| 15:40.29 | jankusanagi_ | no no, I was talking to you :D |
| 15:40.46 | jankusanagi_ | yann-kaelig: why the negative question? yes, there is a virtual keyboard |
| 15:40.56 | jankusanagi_ | it's been there for a while now... |
| 15:41.40 | yann-kaelig | because I'm not sure to understand what qt5-virtualkeyboard is and how to use it |
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| 15:42.22 | yann-kaelig | Is it a virtualkeyboard only for DManager ? |
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| 15:45.02 | Vamp898 | Is it possible to set different scaling for different screens? |
| 15:47.01 | Vamp898 | My Notebook Screen does have 3200x1800 Resolution, so i set the scaling to 2.0x, when i attach a second screen now, everything is giant and unuseable |
| 15:47.04 | Vamp898 | *unuseable |
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| 15:48.52 | asturm | Vamp898: afaik not as long as we are using X sessions |
| 15:49.15 | Vamp898 | asturm: does it work with Wayland? |
| 15:49.44 | rdieter | Vamp898: wayland at least allows different scaling per display (something X does not) |
| 15:50.19 | Vamp898 | Hmmm but Systemsettings would still lack the ability to utilize this, or? |
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| 15:59.23 | yann-kaelig | how can I increase the main layout count in the kde kayboard layout configuration ? |
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| 16:00.09 | yann-kaelig | why am I limited to 4 ? |
| 16:01.56 | tosky | I have a vague memory that it is an xorg limitation |
| 16:02.06 | tosky | but I can't find the reference |
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| 16:10.31 | BCMM | if i create a new colour scheme in System Settings, where is it actually stored? |
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| 16:11.14 | jankusanagi_ | ~/.local/share/color-schemes/ |
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| 16:14.47 | brli | hi there |
| 16:14.56 | brli | isn't firefox 59.0's CSD working on KDE? |
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| 16:16.12 | BCMM | jankusanagi_: thanks! looks like they're also in ~/.kde/share/apps/color-schemes for some sort of compatibility, but the files don't appear to actually get created until i actually apply a scheme |
| 16:16.31 | BCMM | so i was beating my head against why some but not all colourschemes were available there :) |
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| 16:24.16 | inkbottle | [kde connect]: when using kde connect in conjunction with a password manager; doesn't that result in all your Android's app have access to your passwords? |
| 16:25.50 | inkbottle | password managers uses clipboard |
| 16:26.53 | inkbottle | I've noticed recently that my phone proposes me to "pronounce" everything I "copy" on my computer |
| 16:27.08 | cberg | disable the shared clipboard? |
| 16:27.37 | inkbottle | cberg: Yes, but what then but the use of kde connect |
| 16:28.13 | cberg | it has many other uses. but if you need the shared clipboard then yeah, I'd agree that's a security issue if you're copying passwords |
| 16:28.28 | cberg | all android apps have access to the clipboard |
| 16:28.37 | inkbottle | yes... |
| 16:29.17 | inkbottle | I haven't seen that topic that much on the net |
| 16:29.35 | inkbottle | kde connect security issues return nothing afaik |
| 16:29.45 | inkbottle | from google |
| 16:31.15 | cberg | It's not really a problem with KDE connect in my opinion. the shared clipboard is still useful despite this caveat. maybe it should be disabled by default if it isn't already |
| 16:31.43 | inkbottle | yes I'll disable it |
| 16:31.57 | inkbottle | thanks for helping me on that matter |
| 16:31.59 | cberg | I mean disabled in the default for a new device |
| 16:32.09 | cberg | not sure if it is or not |
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| 16:32.34 | inkbottle | default is enable I believe |
| 16:35.32 | mva | hi there! |
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| 16:36.51 | mva | is it possible to tell kde to not move application windows to another display (when it is on, or moved to new place), if it is located at the top, or at the left of current? |
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| 16:37.23 | Cultist | Quick question, the wallpapers that come preloaded in KDE, how are they licensed? I can't find it online |
| 16:37.56 | mva | well, in case of moving, it's pretty interesting thing: windows that were on that display, keeps there, but all the ones from primary one, also goes there... :'( |
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| 16:43.14 | tosky | Cultist: https://community.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy |
| 16:43.29 | tosky | it should be specified in the source code, or at least in the metadata associated |
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| 16:46.54 | icecold_ | hi |
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| 16:52.39 | jankusanagi_ | brli: Firefox 58's (cancer) CSD worked fine in Plasma |
| 16:53.13 | brli | jankusanagi_: however, Arch's ff is now at 59.0 |
| 16:53.36 | jankusanagi_ | yes, Mageia's too |
| 16:53.47 | brli | and, I think the CSD is from unofficial patch which is now merged into 59.0's source |
| 16:53.51 | jankusanagi_ | just saying I tested that c*** with v58 |
| 16:53.59 | brli | lol |
| 16:54.14 | brli | okay... |
| 16:54.58 | jankusanagi_ | the option doesn't seem to be in v59 where I remember it in v58 |
| 16:55.02 | brli | either way, even without CSD, I'd like to have a way to leave more vertical space for the content... |
| 16:55.32 | brli | no, there isn't the option anymore. BUT it isn't triggered automagically either |
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| 16:56.07 | jankusanagi_ | thankfully xD |
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| 17:34.18 | brli | besides, the global menu doesn't work with wayland session XD |
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| 17:55.47 | tneo | Hi there is there a KDE native SIP client that can replace Ekiga? |
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| 18:06.10 | Fuchs | SFLphone KDE maybe? |
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| 18:17.25 | tneo | hmm that seems kind of dead |
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| 18:29.33 | jankusanagi_ | didn't that become Ring? |
| 18:30.53 | jankusanagi_ | ring-kde-2.3.0-4.mga7.x86_64 =) |
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| 18:39.48 | metalhead33 | Hello everyone |
| 18:40.30 | metalhead33 | Not sure if asking at the right place - maybe I should ask this at #kde-chat -, but I want to ask a KDE-related question. |
| 18:40.42 | asturm | don't ask to ask |
| 18:41.26 | metalhead33 | Well, allright, I'll just ask - does anyone have experience using KDE Plasma 5 with an alternate window manager, such as i3? Anyone recommend it? |
| 18:43.39 | jankusanagi_ | I've used it with OpenBox in a few short ocasions |
| 18:44.02 | jankusanagi_ | I can't imagine why I would want to replace KWin, but sure, it's doable |
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| 18:44.35 | metalhead33 | I'm just wondering how surprised will I be, if I re-login and see i3 do its thing. |
| 18:44.51 | metalhead33 | Like, will I see any change, or will KDE chug on as before? |
| 18:45.33 | metalhead33 | It's largerly a curiousity case, but I will test out KDE with i3 soon. |
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| 18:54.50 | metalhead33 | Back. |
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| 20:03.28 | tneo | jankusanagi_: I use I3 with plasma5 |
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| 20:22.07 | the_real_plumps | Hi there, can somebody help me with pimsettingexporter, in case it just shows a blank window like so https://imgur.com/a/1CVCZ |
| 20:30.15 | la_putin | how do i view the current history log that konsole is saving to |
| 20:34.23 | jankusanagi_ | tneo: so you're a good example for metalhead33 :D |
| 20:35.05 | tneo | jankusanagi_: yes, but he went offline ... |
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| 21:00.49 | haolez_ | I want the key "c" + ' to be ç and this works in a GTK environment with the env var GTK_IM_MODULES set to "cedilla". However, the same doesn't work for QT_IM_MODULES in the exact same session! Anyone knows how to debug this? |
| 21:01.21 | haolez_ | I mean, GTK apps work correctly but QT ones doesn't in this scenario |
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| 21:16.07 | yann-kaelig | ho! |
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| 21:16.29 | yann-kaelig | my plasma-nm disappear after a rebbot and all my connection configuration |
| 21:16.30 | yann-kaelig | wtf |
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| 21:18.11 | LaptopZombie | Is there any way to find out what application is suspending my desktop effects? |
| 21:19.51 | haolez_ | created a question at stackexchange for this: https://superuser.com/questions/1303527/cedilla-with-and-c-dead-key-for-qt-apps |
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| 21:25.55 | jankusanagi_ | LaptopZombie: I don't know if there's a way, but you can setup KWin to not allow that |
| 21:26.08 | jankusanagi_ | but that's usually done by games |
| 21:27.33 | jankusanagi_ | (what they do is suspending compositing, losing the effects is a sideffect) |
| 21:29.18 | LaptopZombie | jankusanagi_: Thanks for responding. I must mention it is also right when i log in. No applications are running. |
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| 21:31.06 | LaptopZombie | i'm on a older macbook with nvidia drivers if that says anything. |
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| 21:32.13 | LazyGnoll | usually it's only apps that heavily use opengl (I think), but if it's disabled on start it might have been disabled in the settings or something bad happened |
| 21:32.44 | LazyGnoll | nvidia-drivers depending on the gpu might perform not so stellar these days unfortunately, so that might be causing it |
| 21:33.09 | jankusanagi_ | ah, then it's not a program suspending your effects |
| 21:33.14 | jankusanagi_ | it just compositing not working xD |
| 21:33.18 | jankusanagi_ | *it's |
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| 21:34.06 | LaptopZombie | hmmm. not sure what i can do.. i was all working for a little bit and then it all stopped. |
| 21:35.55 | LaptopZombie | now that i think of it. i may have had a problem removing a widget a while ago. Would that mess this up? |
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| 21:46.07 | jankusanagi_ | it shouldn't... but depends on what "had a problem removing a widget" means exactly :D |
| 21:46.45 | jankusanagi_ | you should take a look at the Compositor settings in Plasma's System Settings |
| 21:47.09 | jankusanagi_ | check that's actually enabled, try switching the rendering backend to another version of OpenGL... |
| 21:47.41 | jankusanagi_ | if nothing else works, you can probably have a nice desktop using the XRender backend, but that's not as performant as OpenGL |
| 21:48.49 | arey1014 | will vulkan be supported in the future? |
| 21:50.21 | LaptopZombie | Will do. Thanks for the suggestions |
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| 21:58.32 | kline | hey guys, whos working on the QnA tomorrow? |
| 22:03.20 | Fuchs | kline: #kde-promo apparently |
| 22:03.23 | Fuchs | (same on Telegram) |
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| 22:05.51 | kline | thx |
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| 22:24.18 | pepo | arey1014, could you clarify your question? Vulkan applications already work under Plasma. |
| 22:24.59 | jankusanagi_ | I imagine they mean "as compositing backend" |
| 22:25.08 | jankusanagi_ | considering the context =) |
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| 22:39.30 | ArsenArsen | how do I make KDEInit and others utilize urxvt instead of Konsole? |
| 22:39.38 | ArsenArsen | for eg. opening Neovim |
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| 22:45.28 | j605 | ArsenArsen: set default terminal in settings->applications |
| 22:45.56 | ArsenArsen | Oh. |
| 22:45.58 | ArsenArsen | Well, that was easy. |
| 22:46.02 | ArsenArsen | Thanks j605 :D |
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| 23:10.03 | damian__ | Please, I need help. I use Neon stable, and with last update 5.13 my discover is still 5.12, how can I do to have the las version of discover? Thanks. |
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| 23:26.16 | jankusanagi_ | you mean 5.12.3? |
| 23:26.38 | jankusanagi_ | because Plasma (and therefore Plasma Discover, versioned the same) 5.13 is not out yet |
| 23:27.14 | jankusanagi_ | but in general, you don't need to do anything, just update again in a few hours or tomorrow |
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| 23:38.32 | damian__ | yes sorry 5.12.3 |
| 23:38.40 | damian__ | I have 5.12.2 |
| 23:39.01 | damian__ | after the last week update |
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