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04:43.35JZAhi anyone know how can I restore my run command_
04:43.37JZA?
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06:32.59paddyhow do I get widgets that I've put in the centre to stay in the centre? When something like discord or skype loads up it shits the clock to the left
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06:46.27paddyalso, how do I get "clickable" notifications i.e. a spotify notification for new song and I can click it to get directly to spotify
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06:56.30mepholici use ktimer to time my dabs
06:57.05mepholicthank you whoever wrote ktimer and all of the underlying libraries!
06:57.28mepholicyou all help me get stoned :)
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07:34.44valoriepaddy: you can right-click the top of the window and use custom layouts in kwin
07:34.52valorieor do it via systemsettings
07:36.37paddyvalorie: is that manage kwin scripts?
07:37.05paddy@valorie do I is there a preset or do I have to download one
07:40.10paddyalso, I mean the widget in the "task bar" not the window
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07:54.49valorieno, just right-click - and choose more actions
07:54.56valorienothing to download
07:55.57valorieor you can do in krunner (alt+space) kwin and choose   Window Behavior
07:56.46valoriethere is special window settings, and special application settings
07:56.54valoriethat's what you probably want
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08:59.25CaterpillarI have to replace KTorrent with another torrent client. Which one would you suggest me? Thank you
08:59.37asturmCaterpillar: how about qbittorrent
08:59.45decentmDeluge and Transmission are both pretty good
09:00.21decentmasturm: does qbittorrent have a daemon?
09:00.29asturmI have no idea.
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09:00.43CaterpillarI would prefer the most used one because probably the security side would have been audited more deeply
09:00.47asturmmostly recommending it as a qt-based alternative
09:00.56Caterpillarwhat about importing the KTorrent torrents to those clients?
09:01.00asturmnot because I use any of this
09:01.13decentmI've been looking at it, but it's hard to give up an already setup system lol
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09:03.45Caterpillarunluckly ktorrent is not maintained anymore
09:04.07CaterpillarI am neither able to import torrents without getting errors
09:04.26decentmCaterpillar: check this out https://alternativeto.net/software/ktorrent/
09:04.27mepholicim using ktimer once again to time my dab at the correct timing
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09:12.37paddyvolorie: I can't find anything to adjust the "taskbar" only on how to adjust the window titlebar.
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09:13.03decentmpaddy: are you looking in systemsettings?
09:15.48decentmyou can edit your panels by clicking the icon on the right side of the panel
09:18.34paddyI found the windows behaviour but that seems to be only for windows rather than the panel. I want my clock and weather to be at the centre of the panel (under the webcam), I have spacers on each side, but when I load an application like discord or skype or anything that has a taskbar icon it shifts the spacer and thus shifts the the clock and weather widget
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09:19.34conjunctivitishey guys i'm using a non kde distro but someone in #networking suggested i ask here, so here goes:
09:20.34conjunctivitisi'm using avlinux 2018 (based on debian stretch) and am having problems using openvpn through nm-applet
09:22.04conjunctivitisif i launch the connection from the command line using sudo, everything works fine, but if i launch it through nm-applet i get no internet access (i can only ping the server).  i was told nm-applet has problems importing config files and that perhaps someone here could help.  i also think there might be a permissions problem because when i launch openvpn from the command line, it fails with operation not permitted unless i use sudo.
09:23.23decentmis your user part of the network group?
09:24.11conjunctivitisdecentm, here are the groups i am in:
09:24.36conjunctivitislp dialout cdrom floppy sudo audio dip www-data video plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare vboxusers nm-openvpn vboxsf
09:24.46conjunctivitisthe distro is based on debian stretch
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09:25.17conjunctivitisi have a previous version of the distro with the same versions of openvpn, network manager openvpn etc which is working fine
09:25.22decentmnot familiar with debian, but type this and see if anything comes back
09:25.24decentmcat /etc/group | grep network
09:25.28decentmdon't paste the result here
09:25.30conjunctivitis(on the computer i am using to chat with you)
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09:26.42conjunctivitisdecentm, the result is very brief
09:26.51conjunctivitisjust one line, should i just type it in?
09:27.15decentmdoes it say "network:x:{some number}:{your username}"
09:27.44conjunctivitisno
09:27.54conjunctivitismy username doesn't appear
09:28.11conjunctivitissystemd-network:x:somenumber:
09:28.12decentmah okay, you need to add yourself to the network group
09:28.32conjunctivitisshould i use systemd-network instead of network?
09:28.42conjunctivitis(adduser me systemd-network)
09:28.43conjunctivitis?
09:28.51conjunctivitisor just network
09:29.05decentmdunno, worth googling, I'm not familiar with debian.
09:29.09conjunctivitisok
09:29.22decentmnot with adduser, that creates a new user. usermod is what you're looking for
09:31.10conjunctivitisdecentm, ok i did that but no joy
09:31.20conjunctivitisat least through nm-applet
09:31.26conjunctivitisi will try cli without sudo now
09:31.51paddyUbuntu 18.04 Plasma 5.12 - How do I keep (clock and weather) widget at the centre of the panel? I have two spacers, one on each side, when I load an application that has a taskbar icon (discord, skype, mozc) it causes the spacer to shift to the left and as well shift the centred icons.
09:32.32decentmpaddy: right click the spaces and select "set flexible size"
09:32.37conjunctivitisdecentm, same error as regular user as well, operation not permitted
09:32.40decentmspacers*
09:33.33decentmconjunctivitis: Dang, I'm out of ideas then, I'm on Arch. Others probably had this issue as well tho, try searchin on forums
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09:34.30conjunctivitisdecentm, ok i'll keep searching.  thanks for your help
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09:47.36scoopextwo weeks ago, kde/kubuntu 16.04 started to constantly crash on clicking on the application menu (popped up menu freezes, whohle destop crashes)....my uses a amd radeon 3100 card....probably this is releated to a kernel update....
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09:48.22scoopexany ideas?
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09:49.05paddyUbuntu 18.04 Plasma 5.12 I set the spacers to flexible size (and alignment centre) but it's even worse than keeping the spacers static. I have [global menu][flexible spacer][clock][weather][flexible spacer][net info][input info][system tray] using an application that doesn't use the global menu or taskbar icon (desktop) the clock and the weather are in the centre but when I pull up firefox, the spacer doesn't change size and
09:49.06paddypushes the clock and weather to the right. If I use an application that has a taskbar icon (hexchat, skype, discord, changing input language from au to mozc, etc) again the spacer doesn't change size and it pushes the clock and icon to the left. Is there a way to pin the widget to a certain place in the panel?
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17:59.56Desdenovahey guys, what is kuiserver5 and can I safely kill it? (it's eating 97% of my CPU at the moment!)
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19:14.54JanKusanagiI doubt you can safely kill that
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20:15.27minionofgozerhi, if i have three windows open, i use to be able to tile them all vertically or hoizontally... did that get lost? i do not see the shortcut to do this anywhere... just wondering...
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21:13.21abcerrdoes kde plasma support wayland ?
21:14.01abcerrI'm getting a blackscreen when I try to start kde through wayland (rather than x-org)
21:14.16abcerrI'm running latest kde-neon, everything up-to-date
21:15.04asturmabcerr: it does support wayland very well
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21:17.52abcerrasturm: do you know why would I get a black screen when I try to start a session with wayland? I looks like to be working because I can see the interface when I try to finalize the session (ctrl+alt+del). I mean it's rendering properly, but seems to have failed to start the plasma desktop
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21:18.58asturmnot sure. it would not work if you are using nvidia-drivers e.g.
21:19.19abcerrI
21:19.58abcerrI'm using nvidia drivers, however at this moment I have switched to use the intel integrated one
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21:21.27abcerrI need to go, thanks for all the help
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