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00:22.00*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.12 and KDE Applications 18.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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01:06.51eaglehi, I start kde apps from within i3 using qt5ct to deal with qt themes...
01:06.55eagleand it works
01:07.23eaglebut when I try to open files with another kde/qt from dolphin via kontext menu...
01:08.09eaglesuch program does not use the qt theme specified with qt5ct
01:09.04eagleif I manually export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=kde and restart i3 it will work, but this doesn't work with qt5ct
01:09.11eagleis there a method to fix this?
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04:44.36m_jimmerHello I am a programmer of some sort.  I would like to make changes in say a makefile gen, or things like that to get to my build system. Here is a example tonight I took a KDE lib and ported it over to qmake from cmake and removed all deps libs
04:44.54m_jimmer<PROTECTED>
04:45.27m_jimmerSo what do I do know as far as COPYING
04:47.58thiagoporting from cmake to qmake is not going to be accepted
04:48.02thiagoKDE software uses cmake
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04:53.52m_jimmerthanks thiago I don't really care what happens upstream
04:54.38m_jimmerwell that is a big old lie, any ways not trying to get in just want to use and travel with it, again thanks
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05:13.29kajikaHello there, I was trying kmag (the magnifier) and it is not getting to right area of the screen around the cursor (y-axis inverted), I want to kno if anyone knew about that and if there is any config file that might fix that.
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10:56.19BluesKajHi folks
10:56.50tsarompyayyy
10:56.54tsarompywhat up
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13:03.00steelstring94Hi, I am using Juk and I don't have the option to use Tree View Mode.  I only have Default and Compact.  How can I enable Tree View?
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13:09.48quesadaAnd is baloo able to search tags? If not, any other indexer? Baloo is kinda hit and miss here
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13:56.41yumboxhi, how can I disable horizontal scrolling on my touchpad?
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14:01.10leszekyumbox: synclient can help if you have a synaptic touchpad. Otherwise take a look at systemsettings -> input devices -> touchpad
14:01.14leszekthere should be an option
14:02.19yumboxit's not there
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14:03.18yumboxhttps://i.imgur.com/zD6TnGz.png
14:03.59Fuchsah, yes, good old libinput, removing all the good options the synaptics driver used to have
14:04.15Fuchsif your distribution allows it and you are not using wayland, switch from libinput to the old driver
14:04.51yumboxI'm using wayland
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14:05.49Fuchsthen you are out of luck, I'm afraid
14:06.05toskyFuchs: not all options are removed, though; but I think that there was another problem with the module itself (not libinput)
14:06.24Fuchstosky: not all, but among them the very one yumbox was looking for
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15:26.19riceHello?
15:26.30Fuchshello :)
15:26.36riceOh good it connected!
15:26.45Fuchsso it seems, yes :)
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15:27.21riceI hate to be the person who joins just to ask a question but I have a question... Is that okay or are there rules against using the IRC for that?
15:28.07tsarompylol
15:28.15tsarompyi dont think it matters, you should just ask
15:28.24riceSorry, I'm new to this
15:28.27tsarompynp
15:28.29tsarompywhats up
15:28.40Fuchsrice: it's mostly for that :)
15:28.43riceI just installed KDE Neon on my laptop (typing this from a different laptop) and am experiencing some strange Wi-Fi issues
15:28.54tsarompywhats the issues
15:29.10Fuchsalso what wifi chipset and driver
15:29.13tsarompy^^
15:29.40riceSo I had tried to connect to the Wi-Fi from the set-up, but it kept asking me for a password before I had set one up (the Wifi step is literally the second step)
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15:30.31riceAnd I wasn't sure what password it was asking for, but it asked me after I put the Wi-Fi password, my previous system password on Windows, etc.
15:30.36riceSo I just skipped
15:30.40tsarompymhm
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15:30.58tsarompydid you run nmtui to do this?
15:31.08riceWell I think it made a new connection to that Wi-Fi every time I tried, because no there's 10 connections to it, none of which work
15:31.11rice*now
15:31.16tsarompylol
15:31.35riceHow do I get rid of them and actually connect
15:31.49tsarompyrun nm-connection-editor
15:32.00riceOkay gimme a sec
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15:32.32riceIt says it's not installed
15:32.39tsarompybut you are online yz?
15:32.42riceNo
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15:32.55tsarompysee if you can run nmtui in a terminal
15:32.56riceI'm typing this from a different computer
15:32.59riceOkay
15:33.05riceThat worked
15:33.20tsarompyyeah its a ncurses program, its neat
15:33.41tsarompyid just delete the saved connections and make a fresh one
15:33.47tsarompyname it somethin cool
15:33.48riceThank you!!
15:33.52tsarompylike "FBI Surveillance Van"
15:33.55riceShould I delete the original one too?
15:34.03tsarompyi mean, you can keep the one thats workin
15:34.10tsarompyname it after me
15:34.13tsarompycause im special
15:34.31tsarompyalso, apt-get install nm-connection-editor
15:34.32riceWell none of them were working
15:34.34tsarompyyou might need it in the future
15:34.35riceLol will do
15:34.44riceI will once I can connect
15:34.47tsarompyok
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15:35.20riceThe connection was to a hotspot I made using the computer I'm typing on here
15:35.30tsarompyhow is kde neon anyways
15:35.31tsarompyi never used it
15:35.55riceI couldn't tell you yet, it's been about 10 minutes and I'm just trying to connect to the Internet lol
15:36.01tsarompyooh okay
15:36.10riceIt's probably my fault, I shouldn't have tried so many times after it didn't work initially lol
15:36.19tsarompywell, kde is badass so enjoy yourself
15:36.24tsarompyfeel free to hit me up if you run into any snags
15:36.27riceThanks! This is my first time with it
15:36.29tsarompyi aint doin nothin today
15:36.33riceI used xfce before
15:36.43Acheronyes, I really like the way KDE is going
15:37.00tsarompyi avoided plasma5 cause of kde4 for so long and i hate myself for it
15:37.09tsarompyits like they fixed every single problem i had with it
15:37.10crimson_kingCan you people recommend some widget or app that shows CPU temperatures and fits better within KDE/Qt?
15:37.25riceIt's been about 2 years since I used Linux, had to re-install it for my work and I'm amazed at how good it looks
15:37.43tsarompycrimson_king have you searched for one
15:37.50Acheronyeah, Linux has really come a long way the last 2 years
15:38.11tsarompyunder "install new widgets"
15:38.32riceIt worked!
15:38.51tsarompyif you right click your taskbar and unlock widgets, then click the button on the right side theres another button that says add widgets then if you click install new widgets you can select to browse the online ones and it'll pull up a screen where you can search
15:38.56tsarompyi havent looked through them for cpu stuff
15:39.01tsarompythere is one or two by default iirc
15:39.05tsarompybut i never used em
15:39.19jankusanagi_I'm happy with Thermal Monitor
15:39.20crimson_kingthanks, I'll take a look
15:39.29crimson_kingI used Psensor on GNOME
15:39.39crimson_kingWanted something similar
15:39.42jankusanagi_part of the "common" collection of Plasma widgets
15:40.47jankusanagi_hm... maybe not part of those, but certainly packaged by Mageia directly
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15:43.25crimson_kingI'm trying Thermal Monitor. It works, but fan speed overlaps one of the other temperatures, a visual glitch
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15:44.47riceI think I need to restart my computer here, so I'll be back, thanks for the help!!
15:48.08tsarompymhm
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15:49.41tsarompysome of the art on kde.org worries me
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15:57.17Acheronwhy's that?
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16:06.15Acheronwhat part about the artwork?
16:06.33tsarompyseems......
16:06.35tsarompyfurry
16:07.29Fuchsm(
16:07.41jankusanagi_o_O?
16:07.54Acheroni found it to be ... original, upbeat
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16:12.04grumble)me claps
16:12.11grumbleargh, almost
16:12.59tsarompyanyways
16:13.01tsarompyi gots me a question
16:13.47tsarompyso, i dont use plasma as a desktop, but i _DO_ use a load of K apps.. is there a way to 'preload' kde services or whatever so that qt apps dont take forever to launch?
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16:16.47toskyQt apps should not take forever to launch regardless of your desktop
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16:20.03tsarompyi mean
16:20.20tsarompyits not a huge deal, im just wondering what that setting in xfce does...
16:20.30tsarompybecause startup time i noticeably faster
16:20.38tsarompyill do some digging :D
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17:13.15MichaelOFHi all, since the latest raspbian updates my raspberry pis have changed to realvnc server, with a secured connection. Previously I've connected to them from my OpenSuse 42.3 plasma box via KRDC, but KRDC seems not to support secured vnc. any hints if there are any "hidden" flags to establish secured vnc with KRDC?
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17:32.14gschanuelhello again
17:32.53gschanuelfolks, i have just reinstalled archlinux and plasma on my machine. I'm still having problems with krdc. It does not connect to any rdp server. xfreerdp works fine
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17:34.39gschanueli'm not able to debug it.. don't know how.. I tried both kdebugdialog5 and kdebugsettings. kdebugsettings does not have krdc. kdebugdialog5 does not create my .xsession_error file
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17:36.21gschanuelafter asking for username and password, the connection just closes itself
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17:46.43gschanuelthis happens also with a new user
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18:14.33gschanueli'm back
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18:17.56jankusanagi_for the record, the .xsessionerrors file (or more probably, .local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log) is not created by kdebugdialog5
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18:32.01AciD`damn
18:32.07AciD`they butchered Ktouch
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18:32.30AciD`anybody knows how to change the lesson and keyboard layout with the new version?!
18:34.10gschanuelAciD`, isn't it in systemsettings > Input Devices > Layout tab ?
18:34.47AciD`well, there I see that you can check the layouts/lessons and edit them, but I cannot find for the life of me how to _select_ those to make them active
18:35.08AciD`I'm refering to the Ktouch lesson, not the global KDE keyboard layout
18:35.34gschanueloh.. sorry
18:35.40AciD`no problem :)
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18:37.57gschanuelok
18:38.07gschanuelso I installed ktouch and managed to change keyboard layout
18:38.26gschanuelit takes from system settings aswell
18:39.18gschanuelwhat I did? systemsettings > Input Devices > Layout tab then configure layouts
18:39.49gschanuelafter that it ungrayed the options to "+ Add" new layouts
18:41.04gschanuelmine AciD` https://snag.gy/97KerZ.jpg
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18:41.22gschanuelmine language is Portuguese, but I think you will get it
18:41.38gschanuel"Configurar Layouts" is unchecked by default
18:41.57gschanuelafter I tick it, it enabled the "+ Adicionar" (Add) button
18:43.31gschanuelI have just reinstalled archlinux and plasma on my machine. I'm still having problems with krdc. It does not connect to any rdp server. xfreerdp works fine. After asking for username and password, the connection just closes itself. This happens with a new user as well
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19:09.34gschanuelno one? :(
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19:12.39jankusanagi_did you run it from a terminal?
19:13.16gschanueljankusanagi_, yeap, no output either
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19:37.54victorbrca[m]gschanuel:  maybe krdc doesn't support SSL.
19:39.49victorbrca[m]Or the RDP protocol version is not supported by krdc. Were you able to use it before?
19:41.00gschanuelyes, there was only one server I could not access before formating
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19:41.33gschanuelafter reinstall no server was able to connect
19:42.43victorbrca[m]And you have freerdp installed as well?
19:43.23gschanuelyeap
19:44.40gschanuelservers are windows 2016 and windows 2012
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19:48.16victorbrca[m]Maybe take a look at the server log and see if there's anything there. I don't see a debug option for krdc. :-/
19:49.28toskykdebugsettings can tune the log levels
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19:49.50gschanueltosky, i tried kdebugsettings and kdebugdialog5
19:49.57gschanuelbut could not find the log file
19:49.58toskyI think we were discussing about this yesterday but: krdc depends on freerdp
19:50.05toskygschanuel: by default, console
19:50.56toskyuhm, krdc does not provide the categories for kdebugsettings
19:51.16gschanuelit does on kdebugdialog5
19:51.24toskythat's the old one
19:51.35toskywhich version of krdc? Distribution?
19:51.39gschanuelyeah.. that should create a .xsession_error
19:51.45toskyno, no
19:51.50tosky.xsession-error is unrelated
19:52.01gschanuelarchlinux, krdc 18.04.1
19:52.15toskykdebugdialog5 is useless for you then
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19:56.21toskyregarding kdebugsettings, set a global rule (in the 3rd tab) like KRDC.*=true
19:56.48jankusanagi_*for the record, the .xsessionerrors file (or more probably, .local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log) is not created by kdebugdialog5*
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20:02.32gschanueltosky, after adding that, where do I find the log?
20:03.06gschanuelrunning krdc from konsole still does not display erros
20:03.57gschanueloh.. got it.. hold on
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20:05.14gschanuelhad to add KRDC*=true instead of KRDC.*=true
20:06.15gschanuelcool
20:06.27gschanuellooks like the syntax is wrong
20:06.53gschanueli'm getting xfreerdp output
20:07.13gschanuelUsage: /usr/bin/xfreerdp [file] [options] [/v:<server>[:port]] .....
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20:09.18gschanuel\o/
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20:09.43gschanuelby default, rdp plugin was trying to share a /media directory, which I didn't have
20:09.52gschanuelcreated it and now it is working \o/
20:12.15gschanuelthanks tosky!!
20:12.59AciD`gschanuel ⟹ well, I'm trying to set the dvorak layout setting since I'm using a typematrix (which works when you set the us_intl software layout)
20:13.30AciD`gschanuel ⟹ thanks for checking it out though :)
20:14.03AciD`I guess the kde devs once again trimmed a great application down :(
20:14.40toskygschanuel: oh, please check if it's not reported already as a bug
20:15.08AciD`gschanuel ⟹ by the way, did the lesson update automatically too?
20:16.36toskygschanuel: oh, ok, you can configure it, but it should report that it does not exists
20:17.30toskygschanuel: check the Settings -> Configure KRDC -> Plugins, click on the configure button of RDP, you can change the directory
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20:31.50gschanuelAciD`, i had to close ktouch and open it again  so it gets the new keyboard layout
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20:47.57yumboxhow can I enable application menubar?
20:49.13yumboxthere used to be an option here https://i.imgur.com/7SWJnsg.png but it's not there anymore
20:52.59toskyyumbox: it should activate automatically when you add the widget on the panel or the button in the window decoration
20:53.53yumboxhmm, okay, I'll try that.
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20:54.38yumboxit seems to work
20:54.46yumboxbut the menu appears in the middle of my screen
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21:01.14jankusanagi_well, you decide where to locate the global menu plasmoid
21:06.39yumboxtosky: thx for the help btw.
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