IRC log for #kde on 20180517

00:07.32erdaveHello, is someone using mycroft with plasma 5? I can't manage it to work...
00:10.04jankusanagi_hi
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00:39.54chowieHello there
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00:56.37CelmorI'm trying to use KIO_GDrive but get errors when trying to add the drive via dolphin, according to #kde-fm I've got all the required packages but I get this  https://puu.sh/AnsqR/b353b8662d.png
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03:27.44Acherongo KDE!
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07:11.22martyIs someone here in the forum who knows some technical details about the panel? Are all plasmoids in the panel running in the same thread?
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07:15.47martyI've got the strange behavior that the visual updates of all panel extensions are blocked, but the extensions are still running
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09:16.54MayzieHow can I force show the title bar (that I hid as an application rule)?
09:17.01MayzieI want to undo it
09:17.08MayzieThis is painful 🙁
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09:48.27Rillian_Hello
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10:33.36adiliHi, I am facing a strange issue.. I am running KDE on manjaro linux, recently I installed krdc for accessing a vnc server on my network. Nut in KRDC VNC option is missing. Only RDP is showing. Checked plugins and VNC is enabled.
10:34.02adili*But in KRDC VNC option is missing. Only RDP is showing. Checked plugins and VNC is enabled.
10:34.33RWLLWorking on this now
10:36.01RWLLI'm installing it
10:36.18RWLLto see if i get the same issue
10:36.31adiliOk
10:37.15RWLLI am useing fedora so I might not get the same issue
10:37.43RWLLThe internat is being slow
10:38.20adiliis there any library dependancy
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10:39.08RWLLI am getting two options VNC and RDP
10:40.27RWLLI've had a look in the plugins menu and VNC and RDP are installed
10:40.50adiliI am getting only rdp.. my version is krdc-18.04.0-1
10:41.47RWLLMy version is 17.12.3
10:42.04adiliIn the plugins menu VNC nad RDP is installed
10:42.07adiliOk
10:42.31RWLLIt is probobly a bug in the latest version try down-gradeing
10:43.14RWLLOther than that there isn't any other advice I can offer.
10:43.52RWLLPossibly a bun in the VNC plugin
10:44.01RWLLbug sorry not bun
10:46.22RWLLTry down-gradeing the plugin (if you can) too
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10:47.38adilithank you.. I will try downgrading KRDC... I didnt see any option to downgrade plugin as it is installed along with KRDC
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10:55.02RWLLCool
10:55.17RWLL\me Waves bye
10:55.33RWLLWaves goodbye
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10:58.41adiliTried downgrading, but same issue
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11:07.26adiligot it fixed.. there was an optional dependancy to be selected which I was not asked in pacman
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11:58.30BluesKajHiyas all
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14:50.49Acherongo KDE!
14:51.25jankusanagi_...
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15:03.54HorusHorrenduswhat Scan Tool can I use in KDE?
15:04.12HorusHorrendusSimple Scan always confuses me because of the buttons in the window decoration :)
15:04.13bshahskansomething IIRc
15:04.28jankusanagi_Skanlite?
15:04.36bshahyeah that ^
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15:08.53Fuchsor xsane, it will look ugly, but it does that in all environments
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15:15.00tosky(even skanlite does it in all environments)
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15:20.44ifohancroftHello, Everyone! Where do I submit a bug report about a bug in KMines?
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15:21.25Fuchsifohancroft: hello, bugs.kde.org  seems to have kmines as product
15:21.30Fuchsso best there, with that as product
15:21.44ifohancroftThank you Fuchs!
15:21.58Fuchsyou're welcome
15:22.23Fuchsnote that some applications allow you to directly report bugs via the help menu
15:22.33Fuchswhich ends up in the same places, but fills out a few fields for you
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16:35.14azxhello
16:35.31azxwhen i insert my external hard drive, i am unable to create new folders or transfer to with dolphiun
16:35.34azxwhy is it doing this
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16:42.54toskyazx: is the external driver formatted with NTFS? If it is, do you have ntfs-3g installed?
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16:51.44azxno i do not
16:51.47azxwhat is ntfs-3g
16:51.49azxinstalling rn
16:51.59azxah it's already installed
16:52.11azxthe problem was the drive was mounted as read only
16:52.17azxautomounted
16:52.59toskyso it is an ntfs drive? Was it automounted using the ntfs or the ntfs-3g (fuse-based) driver?
17:00.10azxi'm not sure
17:00.16azxi have manjaro
17:00.19azxand i plugged it in
17:00.22azxit automounted read only
17:00.26azxi remounted with ro
17:00.30azxrw
17:00.49azxit now shows options to create directories
17:00.56azxbut when i try it says could not be found
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17:11.05xmnmhello, I've been trying out kde and I need some help to get some things working as i had in gnome. For example klipper, in gnome-shell I wa susing gpaste and I was able to use a keyboard shortcut to delete the last entry in the clipboard, can this be accomplished with klipper?
17:13.10JanKusanagithere are a bunch of global shortcuts for Klipper
17:13.22JanKusanagione is Edit contents, another is clear history...
17:13.29JanKusanagiprevious and next item...
17:13.42JanKusanagiI'd say "probably yes"
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17:16.18xmnmalso, is there a way to change the window indicator in the icon only tasker?. when you have multiple windows it only shows a (+) icon, with dash t dock i could change it to dots (with one dot per opened window) or simply have the line split which I'd prefer, but I see no option for this
17:17.02xmnmI'd also like to be able to use the scroll wheel to cycle between windows, which -kinda- happens now, except i want to only cycle through the icon i have the mouse over,instead of the whole workspace
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17:18.44JanKusanagino idea, I don't use the Icon-only task manager
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17:19.05JanKusanagiappearance probably changes somehow with the Plasma theme, but beyond that, no idea
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17:22.01xmnmoh yeah, I have a gripe with dark themes, I've tried with 4 dark color schemas, but they all have the same problem in the plasma's preference application https://imgur.com/bOmvjK5
17:22.40xmnmit's like some elements weren't being themed making it look bad. I'm using plasma 5.12
17:23.51JanKusanagiweird
17:23.53JanKusanagithat looks fine here
17:24.01JanKusanagi(with my custom colors)
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17:26.15xmnmI've tried with nocturnal, arckde, breeze dark and jomada, all the same problem
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17:27.12xmnmis there some way to change the alt-tab task switcher? I'd rather it be horizontal rather than vertical
17:35.42JanKusanagiyes, there are several layouts
17:35.53JanKusanagithere are all kinds of things in Plasma's System Settings
17:35.54JanKusanagijust explore
17:39.16xmnmI did, and I couldn't find it, there is a setting about the window switcher where one can change the shortcuts for the  task switcher but I don't  see any option to change how it looks
17:40.21JanKusanagijust enter "task switcher" (or even just "task") in the search field
17:40.49xmnmbrings up the same thign I had seen
17:41.08JanKusanagiby entering "Task Switcher"?
17:41.29JanKusanagiwell, nevermind... just go to Workspace → Window Management → Task Switcher
17:42.15xmnmthat's the same place
17:42.18JanKusanagithe second thing in the Visualization column is the """theme"""
17:42.45JanKusanagiyou should have like ~8 styles to choose from, maybe more, depending on your distribution
17:43.04JanKusanagifor the record, I have 12
17:43.12xmnmwell, it force closed
17:43.33JanKusanagione called "Mageia", clearly provided by Mageia, not upstream :D
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17:45.49xmnmguess I'll look for a new one, as neither is horizontal
17:46.16xmnmwhat is the source for the themes in the installer?
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17:46.58Lorak_Hi everyone, I have a question. Is there any way to make Plasma use iGPU, and everything else use dedicated one? Asking, because of problems with Nvidia on KDE.
17:47.59xmnmactually, it doesn't seem to have a big selection, is there any option to install from elsewhere? with color schema there was a install from file option but I see no such option here
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18:01.23erdaveDoes kdeconnect on android has a log or something? It is crashing every time I start it since last update...
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18:15.47xmnmerdave, youll probably have to use something system wide like logcat
18:16.21xmnmhttps://imgur.com/9YK6hlm i think this is kde's file picker, and it's missing stuff with respect to the gtk dialog. Like most of my bookmarks, how do I fix this?
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18:37.55JanKusanagifor the record, that looks more like the basic Qt filepicker
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20:33.38mlrnhi there. I'd like to use plsama on a low-res 1366x768 screen, and feel like plasma themes waste quite a lot of space (e.g., between buttons, buttons are oversized,…). are there themes which minimize the wasted space? i couldn't find one :/
20:35.11jankusanagi_there certainly can be
20:36.04jankusanagi_though what you want are Qt themes, if I'm understanding you correctly
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20:40.44mlrnjankusanagi_: maybe, I'll try some Qt themes and see what changes. so far, i've just played with the various themes (workspace, window decorations…), but nothing in the application look & feel changed
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20:41.03mlrnonly like panels and stuff… i don't care much about that, now :)
20:41.45mlrni want applications to be as dense as possible
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20:46.02mlrnjankusanagi_: is there a resource for Qt themes? i can only find breeze, oxygen and adwaita.
20:46.18jankusanagi_then you need to go to the Widget Style module =)
20:46.41jankusanagi_I don't know... but Qt has its default "Fusion" look, that you could check
20:46.57jankusanagi_also, QtCurve, if your OS has it packaged
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20:52.21ShalokShalom_hi there
20:52.50ShalokShalom_can anybody test, if it effects the global volume, when you change the application specific one?
20:53.39FuchsShalokShalom_: depends on whether your pulse audio is configured for flat volume or not
20:53.50ShalokShalom_thanks
20:54.18FuchsShalokShalom_: if flat-volumes are on, it will indeed do that
20:54.29ShalokShalom_thanks a lot
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20:55.39CelmorI'm trying to use KIO_GDrive but get stuck when trying to add the google drive via dolphin https://puu.sh/AnsqR/b353b8662d.png
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20:56.14Celmorseems that all required packages should be installed https://ptpb.pw/fSQj.html
20:56.39Celmor"Some providers can be found in packages kaccounts-providers and ktp-accounts-kcm" what's the latter?
20:58.31jankusanagi_KDE Telepathy's configuration module for System settings
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21:01.48jankusanagi_mlrn: you might also want to check out the Kvantum theme "engine"
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21:13.19mlrnjankusanagi_: qtcurve has lots of "thinner" options that remove spaces from buttons, lists etc
21:13.32mlrnthat seems like what im looking for
21:13.36jankusanagi_=)
21:13.42mlrnthank you
21:13.48jankusanagi_yw!
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22:40.15Celmorjankusanagi_, still getting same error
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22:41.56heyallheyhi
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22:43.33jankusanagi_yeah, no idea about the kio_gdrive thing
22:43.49jankusanagi_never even used Google Drive xD
22:44.42heyallheyim trying to install wine on kde neon but i get an error any advice?
22:44.53heyallhey*on a usb
22:45.49joel135I am having problems with PATH.
22:46.37joel135When I launch my applications from a terminal, using zsh, PATH is inherited by the applications. It is configured in .zshrc.
22:46.47joel135When I use Konqueror, not so.
22:48.19joel135Since it doesn't know about .zshrc, that is. What is the corresponding file for configuring PATH in Konqueror?
22:48.38j605the foolproof way is to do it in ~/.profile
22:48.59j605so it gets sources when you login
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22:49.50joel135thanks!
22:57.44Celmorkdeinit5_wrapper kdeinit5 doesn't help either after installing those packages
23:02.51j605you login to google in systemsettings and then just open using  `kioclient5 exec gdrive:/`
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23:49.35Celmorj605, so what about this? https://puu.sh/AnsqR/b353b8662d.png I was following this https://community.kde.org/KIO_GDrive so double clicked google drive in network section of dolphin which gave me that window
23:50.16Celmorsame thing in system settings https://puu.sh/AoahE/29f70fe488.png
23:52.03j605Celmor: so did you install kaccounts-providers?
23:53.12Celmoryes
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23:53.51j605logout and login?
23:53.59j605other than that I have no idea
23:54.16Celmorthought `kdeinit5_wrapper kdeinit5` would suffice
23:56.26Celmoralso opening files from mtp doesn't work via dolphin in kate
23:58.21j605I would just use kdeconnect or sshfs
23:58.43Celmorboth requre access via networking though
23:59.30j605kdeconnect is working on bluetooth access so that should be interesting

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