IRC log for #kde on 20180704

00:00.55oneforall2na not even under there and seleting the sockets in temp didn't help either
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00:12.35oneforall2ither users it works
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00:20.04*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.13 and KDE Applications 18.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
00:20.50oneforall2ugh where is it hidig :(
00:26.34Joerg-Neo900SOS! where to set transparency of taskmanagerbar "show windows" - wheneve I hover over a "tab" of the taskmanager bar, the desktop brings the according window to front (expected) but same time makes *all* windows like 50+% transparent so I get a useless gibberish of dozens of windows blend into each other
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00:27.39Joerg-Neo900sorry I guess I can't screenshot this
00:28.46Joerg-Neo900I could, here it is https://i.imgur.com/3Dt9zcf.jpg
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00:30.55Joerg-Neo900yes, it *realy* looks exactly like this
00:35.44JanKusanagibeautiful "Highlight windows" option
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01:00.06oneforall2gave up and rebooted :(
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01:12.00Joerg-Neo900JanKusanagi: if that was a reply to me, it didn't help me out
01:12.31JanKusanagiwell, that is the feature seen on that screenshot
01:13.04oneforall2damn wish I knew what to delete of edit to get that dialog to show up with out having to resort to rebooting
01:13.15Joerg-Neo900when that's a feature, I shudder wondering what a bug looks like
01:13.52Joerg-Neo900anyway "feature" gives me hope it's optional and tehre might be a way to disable it
01:14.42Joerg-Neo900some other way than simply disabling damn compositor
01:24.56Joerg-Neo900I tried all other options I could think of - no success
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01:27.57JanKusanagibut the feature ***IS*** optional
01:28.00JanKusanagithat was my whole point
01:28.27JanKusanagiand it's on the very FIRST page of the task manager settings
01:28.47Joerg-Neo900untagging "highlight windows" in taskmgr settings helped. Thanks. Now if only there would be automatic dropdown menus on tabs with multiple grouped windows, without having to click on the tab. Just like in KDE4
01:29.00JanKusanagi*Plasma 4
01:29.39Joerg-Neo900sorry, the about dialiog told me "KDE4.11.7" or somesuch
01:29.55JanKusanagiand that exists, those are the tooltips
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01:30.07JanKusanagiless ranting, more exploring...
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01:56.04Joerg-Neo900lusers rant - always. didn't you know?
01:56.25Joerg-Neo900IOW it doesn't matter what I say, it's for sure ranting
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01:59.07Joerg-Neo900it's a sad fact of life that users rarely chime in to claim there are no problems . It's prolly also futile effort to try and start an education campaign about KDE is called Plasma now
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02:44.35Joerg-Neo900btw the "tooltips" are actually NOT the dropdown menu you get by clicking on the tab
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02:47.52Joerg-Neo900https://i.imgur.com/QhxnIvw.png is what I'm looking for, just without clicking. NOT https://i.imgur.com/NV4fR2G.png
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06:43.58my_mindhello
06:45.33my_mindI just installed Kubuntu 18.04. When I turn on the computer both of my monitors show log in screens. The screens are not duplicated, The mouse moves from one monitor to the other
06:46.00my_mindI have a GTX 750 TI and I installed the nvidia 390 driver
06:46.12asturmsddm has not quite figured out multi screen.
06:47.26my_mindplease tell me how to fix it..
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06:52.30my_mindanyone know how to fix my monitor issue?
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07:06.42xyquadrat[m]my_mind: It might be a bug in SDDM
07:08.05my_mindhmm
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07:09.54xyquadrat[m]It actually looks like this is the expected behavior, see https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/966
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07:10.03xyquadrat[m]Are you still able to log in?
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07:22.08my_mindxyquadrat[m]: yes I log in just fine
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07:24.18my_mindit's just really annoyinh
07:24.26my_mind*annoying
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07:31.24my_mindi can type in my password on either monitor's log in screen and I get in fine
07:31.49my_mindbut it's so odd. I don't understand why it happens
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07:38.43my_mindthis person had the same issue in 2016
07:38.44my_mindhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/752654/kde-login-screen-for-2-monitor
07:41.00Triffid_Huntermy_mind: what do you want to happen, if not that? it seems like perfectly reasonable behaviour to me
07:41.53my_mindonly one monitor should have the login screen, the primary monitor.
07:42.16my_mindThe second monitor should be blank or just have a background image
07:42.35my_mindlike any other distro
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07:43.37my_mindi didn't have this issue with Kubuntu 17.04
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07:45.08hateballmy_mind: maybe you were using KDM then
07:45.18hateballI dont remember when the switch to SDDM was made
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07:45.27hateball(I use Kubuntu also)
07:45.53hateballbut I use sddm on 16.04 as well, so I guess it has been around for a while, but perhaps not forced default
07:46.21my_minddo you have dual monitors?
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07:51.26hateballmy_mind: I do
07:52.02my_mindlogin screen and lock screen on both?
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07:53.55hateballI have a docked laptop, and dual monitors. SDDM shows on both monitors, I am not sure if it also shows on laptop screen
07:54.00hateballmy_mind: yep, lock screen also
07:54.47my_mindthen it's normal, i'm just obsessing about nonsense.
07:55.51my_mindthanks for clearing that up
07:55.59hateball:)
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09:02.12nsnzerohi guys - can someone brilliant inform me of what dictionaries the webqtengine uses ? much appreciated for any pointer in the right directions and my heartfelt thanks
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09:19.16n4muIf anyone has clues about "kde/plasma" that at some point starts to blink or flash (mostly window decorations)
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09:20.19Two_Dogsn4mu: i see that blinking with chrome-beta
09:20.40n4muTwo_Dogs: I'm using everything from Debian Stable...
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09:21.04Two_Dogsn4mu: btw, dont see it on anything else, using opensuse tumbleweed , with nouveau
09:21.36n4muTwo_Dogs: thanks... Well, I'm not sure what to do, this issue pops up from time to time. It's been a while though
09:22.42n4muThe leads I had so far could be the graphic board (it's basic Intel), some sort of setting, and lately I ran in to an issue with Inkscape which turned out to be some GTK-kde settings issue, so that could be linked
09:23.04n4muActually, it's since I went back to "fix" the inkscape thing that the blinking has re-appeared..  :/
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09:49.18kry0mHi. Does anyone has the problem of thumbnails for audiofiles (mp3) in dolphin not showing up?
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11:02.38gagboHello, is there a way to make krdc more verbose ? I'm trying to connect on a machine using rdp and I just have an empty screen flashing without any error message
11:03.38gagboThe connection used to work on/off according to a mystery parameter and I would like to see the error that causes the connection to fail (I just verified that the rdp port of the remote machine is open and reachable)
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11:06.44gagboWell, I just made it work by specifying the port in the rdp address (rdp://nick@localhost didn't work and rdp://nick@localhost:3389 did work). Still, if someone knows how to get more log from krdc I'm all eyes
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12:02.11ntzhello
12:03.04ntzI have little problem ... when I am opening a windows, specifically .kcm modules windows, the new windows are created very small, like if I have some small resolution or so
12:04.00ntzit's weird ... I did ditro upgrade month ago and kde in previous version (opensuse leap 42.3 Vs 15.0) didn't do this ..
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12:15.01hamiswhere can I find kate sessions stored ?
12:15.10hamiswhere can I find kate sessions ?
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13:01.17lod__hamis, in your home ./.local/share/kate/sessions
13:04.02lod__hamis, there also is ./.config/session/kate_*
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13:27.05hamislod__ thanks
13:27.38hamisIt was found in .local/share/kate/sessions
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16:38.38jfmcarreiraheyy guys
16:38.57jfmcarreirais it possible to change the background color of the mail viewer in kmail?
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16:56.40fscaleFolks, I want Winkey + F10 to send the F10 button command. I have opened custom shortcuts within settings. What do I enter in the action section of the custom shortcut?
16:56.48fscaleKubuntu 18.04 with KDE
16:57.35fscalehttps://i.imgur.com/gt5rs8w.png
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17:03.07M01dnick[m]fscale: F10
17:04.32fscaleM01dnick[m]: If I press F10, nothing happens. There must be some command to do this. I don't think this is as simple.
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17:42.35butrosanyone? struggling to get this display done
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17:48.48LazyGnollbutros: if you have the icc file and you've installed colord-kde, there should be an extra option in top level of systemsettings manu
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17:49.19butroswhat would that option be called? I dont see anything new or new in other menus
17:49.48LazyGnollit's called Color Corrections and it's in the hardware group
17:50.28butrosthanks...I totally overlooked it and wasnt focusing in that group...I appreciate it
17:50.55butrosi am loving kde but find myself constantly feeling behind the curve
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17:53.49butrosi cant seem to change anything there...all the "install system wide" buttons on various profiles are greyed out...and right or left clicking a profile does nothing. what am I doing wrong?
17:54.42butrosin the devices section I can't unslect the one default profile...and cant seem to activate the others
17:55.50butrosah nevermind found it sorry..its "add profile" under "devices"...but since "add profile" was to import profiles in the :profiles" section I assumed its behavior would be the same in this tab...guess not
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18:02.21butrosLazyGnoll, do you think its better to use the colord-kde "Color Correction" option or Display Cal when doing calibration with a hardware calibrator? Both give the option for the i1D I am using
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18:07.22LazyGnollbutros: yeah here I can't really help, I don't think colord-kde allows calibration without 3rd party tools, but it's probably better to use it to load the profile
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18:28.00butrosthanks
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18:59.13AlexLikeRock_how  to change  http  default  KDE4 ?
18:59.25_g_p_Hi everyone. I'm trying to migrate from gnome to kde in
18:59.25_g_p_fedora. I'm used to swap ctrl and alt on my keyboard (for
18:59.25_g_p_emacs...). In Gnome this worked to swap them:
18:59.25_g_p_https://askubuntu.com/questions/885045/how-to-swap-ctrl-and-alt-keys-in-ubuntu-16-04
18:59.28_g_p_Unfortunately this does not work with KDE. Any advice? Thanks
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19:01.02thiagoAlexLikeRock_: do you mean change the default browser?
19:01.36AlexLikeRock_thiago, yeah,   i really have FIREFOX , but  at TELEGRAM DESKTOP, thy open KONQUEROR
19:01.36thiago_g_p_: Alt+F2, just type "keyboard" to open the system settings
19:01.45thiagothere's an option in Advanced
19:02.03AlexLikeRock_chat IRC  XCHAT  >> open konqueror
19:02.23thiagoAlexLikeRock_: run system settings, Applications > default applications
19:02.41AlexLikeRock_yes  , thiago
19:02.47AlexLikeRock_<PROTECTED>
19:03.12AlexLikeRock_Whait ..
19:03.13thiagosentence did not make sense
19:03.14thiagorephrase
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19:03.47AlexLikeRock_thiago,   COOOL
19:03.50AlexLikeRock_<PROTECTED>
19:04.11AlexLikeRock_im wron way : >>> file asotiation >>> http  inode
19:04.17AlexLikeRock_work fine  NOW
19:04.33AlexLikeRock_bye bye Dragons
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19:12.16_g_p_thiago: thanks, I've already seen those options. Unfortunately, (like with gnome tweak tools) there is no possibility to swap righ ctrl and right alt, but only left ctrl and left alt :(
19:18.25tristiancIs there any way to add modifier keys to the onscreen virtual keyboard?
19:19.49M01dnick[m]fscale: you shouldn't press F10, but type the text F10 into that field.
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19:22.13M01dnick[m]fscale: here is some info https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/kde-workspace/kcontrol/khotkeys/khotkeys.pdf
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21:09.29n4muTwo_Dogs: BTW, to get rid of the blinking, I did:  kwin --replace &
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21:11.46n4muAlso, in case anyone here works on kde-specatcle, please, bring back the file naming thing that Kscreenshot had. For example, I take a screenshot, give it a name file.png. I take another screenshot, and the proposed name was file2.png. It was *very* helpful.
21:12.33n4muin kde-spectacle, right now, I have to type in the exact name, each time, even when taking multiple shots.
21:12.56jankusanagi_a report on bugs.kde.org will be more helpful than a transient message here
21:13.18n4mujankusanagi_: well, except that you just gave me the link. Thanks :]]]
21:14.15n4muThere's actually a report for exactly the bug..
21:31.47n4muI've another question, and am willing to submit a bug, but not sure what/where/etc. Sorry in advance:
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21:32.25n4muI've a few things in the system tray, everything works (owncloud, ktimer, etc), except for Solaar, and just now I've noticed that Kazam also doesn't work.
21:32.51n4muThey just show up, have some feedback, but nothing clickable. I think they're both python scripts.
21:33.15n4muWhat could I be looking for ? (or does anyone else have the same issue or something)
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21:36.58n4muscratch that, It seems that it's XEmbed that's no longer supported in Plasma and that Solaar (and probably Kazam) use.
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21:53.35Two_Dogsn4mu: if the fix is to restart kwin then the issue is kwin related?
21:55.24jankusanagi_Plasma supports the old Xembed stuff
21:55.30jankusanagi_via xembedsniproxy
21:55.35jankusanagi_which you should have running
21:55.43Two_Dogsn4mu: btw, i see solaar related info in plasma now, batt power lvl of keyboard k830 here
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21:58.39toskyn4mu, Two_Dogs : also, Solaar uses AppIndicator, so not XEmbed: https://github.com/pwr/Solaar/blob/master/lib/solaar/ui/tray.py#L153
22:00.54Two_Dogstosky: i stepped into the convo without an idea of what the main point was, i was just fyi'ing that i used solaar in past to keep track of my keyboard batt state and now see it default on plasma-opensuse-tumbleweed
22:01.32toskyoh, sure
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22:43.51xmnmhello there, I tried to make a custom shortcut by using the combination of alt + printscreen. However, for some reason this seems to not be allowed as the configuration tool just won't grab them together. Any way to workaround this?
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