IRC log for #kde on 20180724

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00:18.44*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.13 and KDE Applications 18.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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01:54.14SilverMightis there any way to close an encrypted drive in kde after mounting it?
01:54.36SilverMighti can unmount the partition but clicking on the encrypted drive again just mounts it without asking for a password
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01:58.58xmnmhello, I have plasma 5.13 and installed this theme https://www.opendesktop.org/p/1245765/ in the screenshot you can see konsole is transparent, but it isn't for me, how would I fix this?
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02:01.08Cultistxmnm, it's in the settings for your profile.
02:01.30Cultistsettings > edit current profile > appearance > edit
02:03.24xmnmi already had a color scheme set, is there any way to use the theme's colors?
02:04.35Cultistyou can also create new saved color schemes in that same menu.
02:05.05Cultistif the one you're using is not in the list
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02:06.39xmnmbut id rather not create one from scratch, i thought konsole could pick up the theme's settings like happen with gnome-terminal with gtk themes
02:07.30Cultistwhen you open the appearance tab it should be defaulted to the one you're using, custom changes and all.
02:07.38xmnmnice
02:07.39Cultistif not, then you'll just have to take the time to customize a new one.
02:07.52xmnmalso, on the gnome front, anyway to force borders on CSD applications?
02:08.02CultistI don't know anything about gnome.
02:08.08Cultistthis being #kde and all
02:08.41xmnmyes, but this would be gnome under kde
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02:26.19valoriexmnm: are you talking about Gtk apps while running Plasma?
02:26.41valoriebecause if so in systemsettings there is a gtk setting
02:26.56xmnmvalorie, specifically CSD ones, because under plasma they have no shadows and borders
02:27.00xmnmat least by default
02:27.34valorieso invoke systemsettings and search for gtk
02:28.11valoriethere is only so much that can be done because the gtk/gnome devels don't want people messing with the appearance of their apps
02:30.05xmnmoh I just noticed that gtk2 applications aren't respecting gtk settings under plasma. specifically the icon theme
02:31.04xmnmgtk3 applications are working fine, but gtk2 seems to be using some sort of fallback instead of the icons i have selected
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04:54.04greloomhey whats up guys
04:55.22greloomI moved to linux a few months ago and it's been working amazing for me so far. today tho I got a weird error with KDE. I'm using Kubuntu and basically just stock settings. Today, my entire display manager disappeared and all my themes had been deleted. Apt and apt-get also seem to be broken.
04:55.30greloomShould I just fresh install or try to fix it?
04:55.37greloomI have all my data backed up by the way
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04:57.35greloomAnyone here?
04:58.36mozzarellayeah
04:59.24greloomSo, any answers to my question?
05:00.41mozzarellawhat were you doing when it happened
05:00.52Jucatogreloom: i would suggest asking in #kubuntu if even APT is broken. that suggests a deeper problem than just the desktop
05:01.29greloomhm alright thanks
05:01.39greloomand mozzarella i was installing kdevelop
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05:45.12prillian5nearly since a week, the middle-mouse-click of klipper didn't paste the last marked text.
05:45.23prillian5Wonder if this is an bug?!
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06:03.26Jucatoprillian5: it was working before? have you checked Clipboard settings? (those are actually two different things and they might conflict, depending on the settings)
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07:52.30prillian5@Jucato It seems, I figured it out. Press the middle-btn heavy und jiggle it a bit, now it works.
07:52.40prillian5Maybe there was only some dust in the key
07:53.05prillian5so "never forget to think about if the hardware cause the error" :)
07:53.16Jucatoheh glad it worked out :)
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07:57.24kajikaHello, I am wondering if anyone knows a way to have folders mounted with sshfs automatically shown in dolphin?
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11:36.05StucKmanI'm trying to change the sensitivityof my trackpad. thing is , the systemsettings module has all that part disabled, but synclient seems to be able to change those values. how can I see why ssetts has them greyed out?
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11:39.50achillionI believe the KDE settings work with libinput
11:40.55StucKmanso libinput could be incomplete?
11:41.41achillionIt might be unrelated. I'm trying to remember what I did or what I learned when I had a similar situation
11:41.45achillionbut my brain is all mushy today
11:43.53StucKmanachillion: get some $STIMULANT?
11:43.57StucKman:-)
11:44.08StucKman(coffee, tea, etc)
11:48.46achillionJust finished coffee #1 and wanna wait a bit for coffee #2
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11:51.44StucKman:)
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12:00.28BluesKajHey folks
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12:03.16asdsadsadhello, I have a desktop shortcut to a bash script, I specified it to run in the terminal and do not close when done
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12:03.34asdsadsadwhen I run it, the terminal window stays open....if I close it, is it still running in the background?
12:03.51Fuchsno, you want & disown
12:04.12asdsadsad?
12:04.13rdieterFuchs: depends on what behavior they want.
12:04.40Fuchsfor it to stay open, would be my guess
12:04.42rdieterasdsadsad: depends, in general, it should stop (it will receive a signal to quit when terminal is closed)
12:05.12asdsadsadmy goal is for the desktop shortcut to open a bash script, display some output
12:05.24asdsadsadexecute a bash script (not open a bash script)
12:05.58rdieterasdsadsad: and do you want/expect it to stop when terminal is closed?
12:06.22asdsadsadthe bash script just displays some output......so basically when I read it, I will close the terminal
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12:07.16asdsadsadwhen I run it now, the bash script displays the output......but there is no "input" caret etc
12:07.48StucKmanasdsadsad: if you add nohup to the command, it will run as before, but if you close the window before it finished, it will continue to run in the backgroud
12:08.01StucKmanthe rest of the output would be kind of lost
12:08.37asdsadsadi dont want it to run in the background
12:08.51StucKmanif you don't, ot you don't use any other similar technique, if you close the window while the script is running, the script and whatever is running will be cut short, as rdietermentioned
12:09.01asdsadsadah ok
12:09.19asdsadsadgreat thanks
12:10.14StucKmanasdsadsad: I said it will *continue* running in background; to the point wou close the window, it will be in the background of the window
12:10.23StucKmanerr
12:10.30StucKmanasdsadsad: I said it will *continue* running in background; to the point wou close the window, it will be in the *fore*ground of the window
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13:26.04allonHi guys
13:26.30allonI am part of gcompris team and I need to update my kubuntu
13:27.05allonI have at the moment two kubuntu, a very old one that I want to repalce with the newest one
13:28.37allonand the 16.04, I would like to keep it
13:28.53allonI open the partition software of kde
13:28.58allonopened
13:29.36allonlooked for tutorials on the web to find how to remove only the oldest one
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13:29.56allonbut I did not find any page that could help me
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13:30.17alloncan somebody help me
13:30.20allon?
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13:35.46yatesi am on a very powerful machine (i7 desktop) running a relatively recent kde spin of fedora (fedora 27).
13:36.28yateswhy in bloody hell do simple volume increments/decrements take several seconds to respond???
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13:36.58yatesthere is not much going on according to top, the highest cpu utilization is 20 percent
13:38.27yatesactually the first few presses take several seconds - after that, after the first is recognized, subsequent presses response fairly quickly. it's as if something is waking up.
13:38.41yatess/response/respond/
13:39.04rdieteryates: odd indeed. if it matters, my f27/f28 boxes respond fairly quickly almost always (I do see small delays when box has load though)
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13:39.51rdieteryates: it does indeed "wake up" a bit sometimes
13:40.03yatesi suppose it could be temporary loads, which are going away by the time i run top.
13:40.22yatesrdieter: you've seen that too?
13:40.35rdieteryates: occasionally, under load and/or swapping, yes
13:41.32rdieterI believe volume keypresses send messages over dbus effectively, which plasma-pa applet listens and responds
13:41.35yatesi am running some apps that may be culprits, e.g., davmail seems to suck the whole system down when processing messages, and also winblows in a VM
13:41.55yatesrdieter: i see.
13:42.54rdieternot sure there's much that can be done about it in general.  load or swapping will often result in response delays no matter what
13:43.28yatesi don't think swapping is going on. just probably load
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17:03.28aleksashow to disable shutdown on critical battery?
17:08.09ngraham[m]System Settings > Power Management > adjust stuff there
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17:13.40aleksasngraham[m]:just did it, hope it works because last time it wasn't apparently
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18:18.45mokapharrHeya, whenever i move my mouse towards the bottom panel, some ugly shadow appears and sometimes persists. i guess this is from a screen edge hint? is there any way to disable this effect?
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18:23.26xyquadrat[m]mokapharr: Could you post a screenshot of the ugly shadow? This might help to better locate the bug/effect that causes this behavior
18:29.53ngraham[m]yes, you can turn it off in System Settings > Workspace > Desktop Effects (I think)
18:30.15ngraham[m]I can't remember the name of the effect though, sorry--but it's probably something like "screen edges"
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19:06.09MichaelOFhi all. plasma 5.12.5, hopefully very short question: ksysguard has a function "show program window". is there a function in plasma to show process info for a selected window?
19:06.20MichaelOFso vice versa?
19:07.33MichaelOFbackground is that I want to find out if a specific window is an internal dialogue of a running progra, or an external called program
19:08.40xyquadrat[m]Hmm, I don't think that ksysguard offers that
19:09.33xyquadrat[m]but you can right click on a title bar -> more actions -> options for this window and in the first tab you should see the binary behind it
19:09.36xyquadrat[m]IIRC
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19:11.45MichaelOFxyquadrat[m]: you've IIRCed correctly, thank you very much :-)
19:11.56xyquadrat[m]great :)
19:12.18MichaelOFwas in the first right mouse button click menu before, but not in the "more actions" sub menu
19:12.27MichaelOFso thanks again!
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19:23.23buovjagaJust wanted to say real quick we troubleshooted my friend's KDE application launch issue to the screen scaling. With scaling as 1, the applications launch fine: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/after-update-launching-kde-applications-fails-with-the-x11-connection-broke-maximum-allowed-requested-length-exceeded-code-4/53070/5
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