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| 05:18.51 | warai_otoko | Happy Birthday, IRC! ^^ |
| 05:20.46 | Schroeder | anyone know where I can find autoconf macros to find, test, and link the necessary libraries for a KDE application? |
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| 06:18.06 | diwr | oh man, Konversation is really sweet |
| 06:18.40 | diwr | byebye one of my last gtk aliens, xchat |
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| 06:21.16 | clarjon1 | or if there is i never could figure out how to work it |
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| 06:32.23 | diwr | clarjon1: is /exec just a command-line caller? I know Konversation has builtin konsole instances |
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| 06:32.38 | clarjon1 | does it now? |
| 06:32.41 | clarjon1 | and yeah |
| 06:32.45 | clarjon1 | runs commands |
| 06:33.36 | diwr | the builtin konsole is pretty neat, uses my colors etc |
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| 06:34.58 | warai_otoko | Hija! |
| 06:35.10 | clarjon1 | i'll have to check that out |
| 06:35.25 | warai_otoko | KDE Plasma is rearranging desktop icons after every reboot |
| 06:35.51 | warai_otoko | this even happens when I lock icons. What can I do here? |
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| 06:40.31 | valorie | warai_otoko: have you filed a bug report? I've not heard of this and it never happens to me |
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| 07:45.12 | Joerg-Neo900 | valorie: screen resolution switching (temporarily lower res) during boot/startup, so the icons get re-arranged to fit on screen? |
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| 07:57.48 | Joerg-Neo900 | it's a pity. A bug (actually regression) in Konversation I reported like 2 years ago still isn't fixed. cmd aliases don't expand variables like %c (channel) anymore. I fixed that with a botch like "/exec xxx <cmd>" https://i.imgur.com/gM0x9Cz.png where xxx is a script doing the expansion: https://pastebin.com/r5r0ysfV -- AAH, /exec starts scripts, /cmd starts arbitrary commandline commands in $PATH and sends the stdout to server |
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| 08:06.39 | Celmor | spectacles keeps crashing after I typed in exactly 2 letters in the export->other application pop-up |
| 08:07.18 | Celmor | or more specifically when I type in the 3rd letter which doesn't appear anymore |
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| 08:07.57 | Celmor | "Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x50a01) with this library (version 0x50b01)" |
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| 08:08.09 | Celmor | is printed when I run it in a terminal |
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| 08:13.40 | Joerg-Neo900 | spectacles is what? |
| 08:14.13 | Joerg-Neo900 | aaa nm, found it |
| 08:15.19 | Joerg-Neo900 | works here. I can confirm 3rd letter is first that highlights a particular application from the list, for me |
| 08:16.26 | Joerg-Neo900 | Celmor: doesn't it provide exact name of library, maybe one line above of what you quoted? |
| 08:16.56 | Joerg-Neo900 | I'd guess there's a bazillion of "Qt libs" |
| 08:17.07 | Celmor | https://ptpb.pw/wfzp |
| 08:17.20 | Celmor | it already suggests executables at the 2nd letter |
| 08:17.30 | Celmor | I can then pause for a while but as soon as I type the 3rd letter it crashes |
| 08:17.42 | Celmor | I'm trying to run `puush -c` |
| 08:19.34 | Joerg-Neo900 | no idea here, I'm not a dev. Anyway for sure this error indicates a version conflict (sorry for me doing Captain Obvious) which might ne caused by installing stuff from wrong repo |
| 08:21.13 | tosky | Celmor: it's probably what the message says: recheck your bits of Qt5, you probably have mixed versions |
| 08:21.19 | tosky | which distribution is that? |
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| 08:24.16 | Joerg-Neo900 | I'd almost bet on some Yast/RPM experts can tell you how to find the conflicting lib and prolly also which package introduced it to your system |
| 08:25.08 | Celmor | tosky, problem is qt5 is dozens of packages, no idea where to begin checking |
| 08:25.12 | Joerg-Neo900 | layman's approach: open Yast software management, force-upgrade spectacles |
| 08:28.27 | Joerg-Neo900 | you might see a conflict there, which then gives better more detailed info about which lib's version is incompatible |
| 08:33.39 | tosky | Celmor: better ask on the channel of your distribution (what is that, tumbleweed?) |
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| 08:37.34 | Celmor | tosky, manjaro |
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| 08:38.38 | Celmor | so basically no support since #archlinux will refuse and in #manjaro are mostly just newbies |
| 08:42.38 | tosky | unfortunately it's a distribution issue |
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| 09:12.53 | Joerg-Neo900 | I'm rnning short of ideas. A >> find 2>/dev/null $(echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g") -exec ldd \{\} \; |grep -i qt|grep "50a01" << didn't find anything on my system, maybe it does on yours |
| 09:13.14 | Joerg-Neo900 | also try 50b01 |
| 09:13.22 | Joerg-Neo900 | Celmor: ^^^ |
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| 09:14.55 | Celmor | I'm assuming the part withing >> << is the command? |
| 09:15.02 | Celmor | didn't print anything |
| 09:17.50 | Joerg-Neo900 | yes, that's the result. You instad can use: |
| 09:17.54 | Joerg-Neo900 | find 2>/dev/null $(echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g") -exec ldd \{\} \; |grep -i qt|less |
| 09:20.27 | Joerg-Neo900 | I suspect the shown hex hash value is _not_ the lib version |
| 09:22.20 | Joerg-Neo900 | Celmor: maybe /join #devuan - a few folks in there have a clue about manjaro afaik |
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| 09:22.34 | tosky | devuan? |
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| 09:24.04 | achillion | Interesting little post I just came across: https://csorianognome.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/a-gnome-dev-enters-an-akademy-and/ |
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| 09:36.28 | Joerg-Neo900 | Celmor: anyway ldd is an inapt approach, it doesn't list the lib version (50a01) |
| 09:37.19 | Joerg-Neo900 | the shown values are memory addresses |
| 09:38.07 | Joerg-Neo900 | I *guess* it needs RPM and/or zypper/yast for this |
| 09:39.04 | Celmor | rpm as in the package format? |
| 09:41.27 | Joerg-Neo900 | yep |
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| 10:01.03 | Joerg-Neo900 | Celmor: check your qt5ct |
| 10:01.55 | Celmor | updated, still crashing |
| 10:03.26 | Joerg-Neo900 | another guy and me can't figure which lib it is this error is referring to |
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| 10:09.08 | Joerg-Neo900 | usually lib versions are not long hex values, and usually they are 'embedded' into the lib.so filename |
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| 10:18.09 | Joerg-Neo900 | Celmor: hey, your error log says "core dumped". Analyzing that coredump should reveal some useful info |
| 10:18.28 | Celmor | doesn't that need debugging symbols compiled into the crashing binary? |
| 10:18.54 | Joerg-Neo900 | hmm, they sure do help |
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| 10:20.02 | Joerg-Neo900 | but I *think* you can provide them via additional file *-debuginfo or whatever |
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| 10:21.07 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
| 10:21.17 | Joerg-Neo900 | hey |
| 10:25.24 | Celmor | Joerg-Neo900, this is what I was able to get out https://ptpb.pw/wM1x |
| 10:26.23 | Joerg-Neo900 | yeah, that's a tad thin |
| 10:27.06 | Joerg-Neo900 | however it still shows way more meaningful libQt*.so names |
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| 10:29.55 | Joerg-Neo900 | libQt5Widgets.so.5 and libQt5Core.so.5 |
| 10:29.56 | Celmor | gonna just reinstall the qt5 group (https://www.archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/qt5/) |
| 10:31.23 | Joerg-Neo900 | make a snapshot of your libs dirs, for forensics |
| 10:31.53 | rindolf | yay! finally fixed this bug - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397770 |
| 10:34.25 | Joerg-Neo900 | reads like chinese to me. kpat, Cards, autoplay, foundations, deck, FreeCell ? o.O |
| 10:35.37 | Celmor | seems to have fixed the problem |
| 10:35.50 | rindolf | Joerg-Neo900: heh |
| 10:35.58 | Joerg-Neo900 | Celmor: \o/ |
| 10:36.33 | Joerg-Neo900 | Celmor: now if you did a snapshot, find which libs changed :-) |
| 10:36.51 | Celmor | I didn't, I already run the command when I wrote that |
| 10:37.04 | Joerg-Neo900 | a pity |
| 10:37.28 | Celmor | well, I know which packages got updated |
| 10:37.38 | Joerg-Neo900 | oooh |
| 10:38.16 | Celmor | https://ptpb.pw/R1W7 |
| 10:38.32 | Joerg-Neo900 | libQt5Widgets.so.5 or libQt5Core.so.5, by any chance? |
| 10:39.51 | Joerg-Neo900 | ooh, I nagged you with RPM and zypper/Yast, right? Sorry for that, I failed to realize you got another distro than me |
| 10:40.33 | Celmor | np |
| 10:41.30 | Joerg-Neo900 | oh well, looks like there were a few libs pending update, no? |
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| 10:42.14 | Celmor | the ones you listed where up-to-date |
| 10:42.41 | Celmor | providing these .so files |
| 10:42.41 | Joerg-Neo900 | ((I failed to realize you got another distro)) actually I forgot other distros have other sw manager tools |
| 10:43.55 | Celmor | my problem with kde often is that I don't know which packages are required and I essentially have to bloat my system with unrelated kde packages |
| 10:44.06 | Celmor | although I don't use KDE (DE) itself |
| 10:44.10 | Joerg-Neo900 | :nod: |
| 10:44.41 | Celmor | anyway, thanks for helping |
| 10:45.11 | Celmor | I used to use KDE as DE (the KDE "flavor" manjaro comes with) till it broke, using i3wm since then |
| 10:45.31 | Joerg-Neo900 | a few days ago I uttered a rant "seems KDE is rapidly reaching the point where it implodes into a singularity from own gravity/complexity" |
| 10:46.12 | Celmor | seems like the typical aspect of German engineering: over engineering |
| 10:46.19 | Celmor | and I can say that, I am German |
| 10:46.40 | Joerg-Neo900 | na dann, schoenes Wocheende :-) |
| 10:46.48 | Celmor | ;) |
| 10:49.33 | Joerg-Neo900 | my distress with KDE is the ever increasing number of seemingly random bugs that come and go and are likewise bizarre as obscure |
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| 10:55.41 | Joerg-Neo900 | sorry, not "open with..." but "view video" |
| 10:57.00 | Joerg-Neo900 | https://i.imgur.com/tFEYIM0.png |
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| 11:48.27 | twainwek | Joerg-Neo900: no matching format found is likely a browser/codec problem |
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| 13:07.39 | No0n3Left | In KDE plasma, recently my backlight brightness keys have stopped working. They still are bound, and emit dbus events (org_kde_powerdevil emits Increase/Decrease Screen Brightness events when I press the brightness keys), but the screen brightness does not change and the popup showing the brightness does not appear |
| 13:07.56 | No0n3Left | Strangely, the keyboard brightness keys still work properly |
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| 13:09.13 | jankusanagi_ | does handling the brightes via the battery plasmoid's controls work? |
| 13:09.22 | jankusanagi_ | *brightness |
| 13:09.26 | No0n3Left | Whats that? Battery plasmoid? |
| 13:09.39 | jankusanagi_ | don't you have a battery icon somewhere in the panel? |
| 13:09.44 | No0n3Left | Yes |
| 13:09.47 | jankusanagi_ | where the volume icon usually is |
| 13:09.50 | jankusanagi_ | ok, if you click it |
| 13:09.55 | jankusanagi_ | don't you have brightness controls? |
| 13:10.18 | No0n3Left | Yes, that works |
| 13:10.27 | No0n3Left | I actually had to restart KDE cause I got the brightness to 0 |
| 13:10.59 | No0n3Left | Its just the keys that dont work |
| 13:11.23 | jankusanagi_ | *restart Plasma |
| 13:11.34 | No0n3Left | I just did, let me do it again |
| 13:11.39 | jankusanagi_ | ok, have you checked the Global Shortcuts section in System Settings |
| 13:11.41 | jankusanagi_ | ? |
| 13:11.49 | jankusanagi_ | no, I didn't ask to restart xD |
| 13:12.16 | No0n3Left | jankusanagi_: Oh, sorry. I restarted anyways. I checked the shortcuts, they are there, under Power Management |
| 13:12.39 | No0n3Left | Also, the keys are emitting dbus events properly, so I think they are bound correctly |
| 13:12.55 | jankusanagi_ | try setting them to something else, like say "Super + someletter" |
| 13:13.33 | No0n3Left | Hmm, that seems to have worked |
| 13:14.07 | No0n3Left | Wonder if my acpi backlight control script could be interfering with them, have it configured not to run if X or wayland is running |
| 13:14.17 | Joerg-Neo900 | twainwek: sure, but VLC starting a *10 min* after I selected "show video" from context menu... |
| 13:14.53 | No0n3Left | Joerg-Neo900: Are you on wayland, VLC is really really buggy on wayland, I dont think VLC actually supports it yet |
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| 13:15.32 | Joerg-Neo900 | don't think so |
| 13:16.52 | No0n3Left | How did you launch kde? startx? Also think you can check by doing "ps -eo comm | grep wayland" |
| 13:18.19 | Joerg-Neo900 | no wayland |
| 13:18.53 | No0n3Left | Ok, not sure then. Is it just VLC you have issues with? |
| 13:19.37 | Joerg-Neo900 | seems the 10 min delay were introduced by previous click on play button of the embedded player |
| 13:20.11 | Joerg-Neo900 | I just tried again and didn't see any delay. Random statistical, what I said |
| 13:21.10 | No0n3Left | Oh, huh |
| 13:22.55 | twainwek | Joerg-Neo900: maybe the first time it was downloading the vide at 0.1kB/s :) |
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| 14:06.59 | Joerg-Neo900 | twainwek: what did it do second time - started ~30s after first since I also selected "view video" a second time |
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