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02:42.49 | D-rex | how do i send files to another kde desktop using kde connect? |
02:42.56 | D-rex | is that feature only for connecting to phones? |
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02:45.23 | AndrewCrouthamel | Yes |
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02:54.06 | Roey | hello all |
02:54.12 | Roey | why does kamoso segfault on me immediately? |
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03:11.02 | JanKusanagi | much more information would be needed to try to guess :D |
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06:31.47 | z428 | Hi all, new KDE neon user here mostly with a GNOME-shell background, short / fast question: Is there a straightforward way on KDE, with multiple windows open, to switch to an active instance of some application by typing its name? I know I can use ALT+TAB to switch through windows, and I'd like to, say, use some hotkey and write "kon" to get me to my open konsole window. Is that possible somehow? |
06:33.21 | asturm | z428: alt+space, type kon |
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06:36.24 | z428 | asturm: Cool, thanks. Wasn't aware it's that easy. :) |
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08:51.16 | gryffus | What's up with akonadi-next and Kube/Sink? Which way is the development of KDE PIM heading? Which one is active? |
08:52.01 | tosky | Kontact is fully supported |
08:52.30 | tosky | you may want to check this answer from a blog post of one of the main PIM developers: https://www.dvratil.cz/2018/09/unified-mailboxes-in-kmail/#comment-2209 |
08:53.09 | gryffus | tosky: yes, but i would like to speculate about the future... I feel like trying some bleeding edge/experimental software and KDE PIM is very interesting piece of software |
08:53.21 | tosky | check that answer... |
08:53.24 | gryffus | KDE telepathy is dead now, so i would like to sink into akonadi |
08:53.29 | gryffus | tosky: ok, thanks :) |
08:54.34 | asturm | akonadi can use more manpower... |
08:54.55 | tosky | well, even KDE telepathy |
08:55.07 | tosky | a software is dead only as long as it has no developers |
08:55.15 | tosky | it is not dead anymore when there are developers |
08:55.57 | gryffus | tosky: well, there is a problem with "telepathy" project also dead, and the fact that IM is not interesting anymore for majority of people... |
08:56.25 | gryffus | well, according to the Dan Vrátil comment, i will just look forward for new features in Akonadi, rather than trying Kube :) Thanks tosky |
08:56.26 | tosky | IM is totally interesting, the problem is that the solutions used are prioprietary and without an API |
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08:58.08 | gryffus | tosky: well, i tried to raise couple of discussions, even here, and the outcome was always "we all use proprietary network such as FB and chatting only from our smartphones" ... No-one (almost) seems to be using PC for IM anymore. Which i totally do not understand |
09:00.19 | tosky | gryffus: because everyone seems to use only smartphones, but FB messenger has no public API (pidgin has a reverse engineered one afaik); whatsup has no API |
09:00.24 | tosky | only telegram has one |
09:00.36 | tosky | amongst the proprietary networks |
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09:08.41 | nicofee | Telegram has a full featured desktop client |
09:09.33 | tosky | the one which depends on private Qt APIs |
09:09.45 | tosky | but anyway, it has APIs |
09:10.49 | asturm | the horrible webapp? |
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09:34.26 | gryffus | I think we need to make KTP more friendly towards plugin developers. Currently you need first to dig through (horrible) telepathy sources, write plugin for it, then write KTP parts (mainly account/service configuration files and account add wizard, etc... Making this simplier, would attract more developers for creating any unofficial or reverse-engineered plugins... But it seems as a large task and IMHO currently it would be best to get rid of |
09:34.27 | gryffus | telepathy and build KTP on top of something different (libpurple maybe?) |
09:35.31 | gryffus | Currently, even the "skypeweb" is not working in ktp... Skype for business is working, but standard Skype is not (openSUSE) |
09:36.31 | nicofee | I think there is one lone developer working on telepathy |
09:36.34 | tosky | Skype for web has no API too iirc |
09:36.56 | nicofee | He's working on some API changes |
09:37.08 | gryffus | tosky: yes, but it has been reverse-engineered somehow, it worked before and is working on pidgin, for example |
09:37.20 | gryffus | nicofee: good to know |
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09:42.13 | gryffus | tosky: it worked before if i remember with ktp -> telepathy -> telepathy-haze (libpurple) -> libpurple-skypeweb |
09:42.22 | gryffus | tosky: https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb#skypeweb-plugin-for-pidgin |
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09:45.39 | tosky | gryffus: you can always directly add it to kopete |
09:47.29 | gryffus | tosky: well for now i am more satisfied with KTP (mainly UI reasons) |
09:47.41 | gryffus | and using the official app for the Skype |
09:49.10 | gryffus | But i am still playing with the idea to switch to pidgin, because it supports both Skype and Facebook (reverse engineered)... But the GTK is just so ugly :( |
09:49.50 | gryffus | I have even tried Miranda in wine last week... Felt like 15 years ago :x |
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09:52.15 | gryffus | You know, from the start of Akonadi and KTP, i was hoping to get possibility to initiate IM calls and IM chats from Kontact... But this have never happened sadly. Even if work on this "bridge" was announced several times... It would be neat if i could just open a contact in Kontact and call him with any IM i have for him |
09:52.30 | gryffus | s/have/has |
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18:33.11 | Eightynine | Hello. I'm running Tumbleweed, I tried to set up keyboard layouts and I see keyboard icon on taskbar. How can I change it to show language icon or flag? |
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18:39.56 | Aristide | Hello Eightynine ! If I have understand, you want to display flag into tray ? |
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18:41.04 | Eightynine | Greetings Aristide! Either a flag or language icon. But none of them work. |
18:41.24 | Aristide | Eightynine: I have try this https://i.imgur.com/WC5GeAS.png |
18:41.53 | Aristide | And its work |
18:43.45 | Eightynine | By the way KDE became much better from the last time I tried it. I hate those feedback and blur effect but feedback could be turned off and them could be changed. Running without any problems, works fast, takes not so much RAM comparing to Gnome. |
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18:45.21 | Eightynine | "Show for single layout" That was turned off. |
18:45.23 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma rocks =) |
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18:46.54 | Eightynine | Aristide For some reason it didn't help. jankusanagi_ Which distribution and version? |
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18:47.38 | Aristide | Eightynine: Hm . Sorry I Don't know :( |
18:48.03 | Eightynine | Maybe Tumbleweed is a bad choice? |
18:49.14 | Eightynine | plasma-pa or phonon? Which one should I install? Sound icon is missing. |
18:49.41 | Aristide | plasma-pa for volume :) |
18:49.53 | jankusanagi_ | what? I'm using Mageia with Plasma 5.13.x |
18:50.01 | Aristide | Neon :p |
18:50.19 | jankusanagi_ | and phonon is not something one installs manually |
18:50.44 | asturm | Eightynine: plasma-pa should be on your system already if you installed it with KDE packages |
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18:53.16 | Eightynine | jankusanagi_ Do you have tearing? |
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18:53.31 | jankusanagi_ | not particularly |
18:53.46 | jankusanagi_ | but that is a very ambiguous question =) |
18:54.20 | Eightynine | But I have. I used Ubuntu previously and it worked bad. I decided to switch to openSUSE. |
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18:56.07 | jankusanagi_ | I wouldn't try to fix my issues by jumping distribution every time I find something wrong =) |
18:57.56 | Eightynine | Problem is Chrome was crashing, YouTube took a lot of resources and was freezing. I tried to update kernel, Xorg and Mesa and it became much better but still Chrome was crashing. "Application stopped running" but I saw it was running. |
18:58.46 | Eightynine | Tearing appeared after I switched from Gnome to KDE in openSUSE. |
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19:09.58 | Eightynine | plasma5-pa, not plasma-pa. I'm a dumbass. |
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19:24.46 | jankusanagi_ | weird package naming :D |
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19:28.48 | asturm | well, I see where they are coming from. upstream name however is plasma-pa... |
19:35.04 | Eightynine | So that means OpenSUSE team again did something in their own way? |
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19:36.37 | asturm | Eightynine: it's just a package name. distros will choose different names/added versioning for various reasons |
19:37.11 | asturm | it does not affect the software at all, just your success on package searches |
19:38.27 | Eightynine | Some packages came from OpenSUSE, not from Tumbleweed. Why is that? |
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19:54.13 | jankusanagi_ | it's not like "tumbleweed" is someone else... |
19:54.29 | jankusanagi_ | but openSUSE-related questions will be better answered on openSUSE's channels |
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