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02:42.49D-rexhow do i send files to another kde desktop using kde connect?
02:42.56D-rexis that feature only for connecting to phones?
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02:45.23AndrewCrouthamelYes
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02:54.06Roeyhello all
02:54.12Roeywhy does kamoso segfault on me immediately?
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03:11.02JanKusanagimuch more information would be needed to try to guess :D
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06:31.47z428Hi all, new KDE neon user here mostly with a GNOME-shell background, short / fast question: Is there a straightforward way on KDE, with multiple windows open, to switch to an active instance of some application by typing its name? I know I can use ALT+TAB to switch through windows, and I'd like to, say, use some hotkey and write "kon" to get me to my open konsole window. Is that possible somehow?
06:33.21asturmz428: alt+space, type kon
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06:36.24z428asturm: Cool, thanks. Wasn't aware it's that easy. :)
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08:51.16gryffusWhat's up with akonadi-next and Kube/Sink? Which way is the development of KDE PIM heading? Which one is active?
08:52.01toskyKontact is fully supported
08:52.30toskyyou may want to check this answer from a blog post of one of the main PIM developers: https://www.dvratil.cz/2018/09/unified-mailboxes-in-kmail/#comment-2209
08:53.09gryffustosky: yes, but i would like to speculate about the future... I feel like trying some bleeding edge/experimental software and KDE PIM is very interesting piece of software
08:53.21toskycheck that answer...
08:53.24gryffusKDE telepathy is dead now, so i would like to sink into akonadi
08:53.29gryffustosky: ok, thanks :)
08:54.34asturmakonadi can use more manpower...
08:54.55toskywell, even KDE telepathy
08:55.07toskya software is dead only as long as it has no developers
08:55.15toskyit is not dead anymore when there are developers
08:55.57gryffustosky: well, there is a problem with  "telepathy" project also dead, and the fact that IM is not interesting anymore for majority of people...
08:56.25gryffuswell, according to the Dan Vrátil comment, i will just look forward for new features in Akonadi, rather than trying Kube :) Thanks tosky
08:56.26toskyIM is totally interesting, the problem is that the solutions used are prioprietary and without an API
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08:58.08gryffustosky: well, i tried to raise couple of discussions, even here, and the outcome was always "we all use proprietary network such as FB and chatting only from our smartphones" ... No-one (almost) seems to be using PC for IM anymore. Which i totally do not understand
09:00.19toskygryffus: because everyone seems to use only smartphones, but FB messenger has no public API (pidgin has a reverse engineered one afaik); whatsup has no API
09:00.24toskyonly telegram has one
09:00.36toskyamongst the proprietary networks
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09:08.41nicofeeTelegram has a full featured desktop client
09:09.33toskythe one which depends on private Qt APIs
09:09.45toskybut anyway, it has APIs
09:10.49asturmthe horrible webapp?
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09:34.26gryffusI think we need to make KTP more friendly towards plugin developers. Currently you need first to dig through (horrible) telepathy sources, write plugin for it, then write KTP parts (mainly account/service configuration files and account add wizard, etc... Making this simplier, would attract more developers for creating any unofficial or reverse-engineered plugins... But it seems as a large task and IMHO currently it would be best to get rid of
09:34.27gryffustelepathy and build KTP on top of something different (libpurple maybe?)
09:35.31gryffusCurrently, even the "skypeweb" is not working in ktp... Skype for business is working, but standard Skype is not (openSUSE)
09:36.31nicofeeI think there is one lone developer working on telepathy
09:36.34toskySkype for web has no API too iirc
09:36.56nicofeeHe's working on some API changes
09:37.08gryffustosky: yes, but it has been reverse-engineered somehow, it worked before and is working on pidgin, for example
09:37.20gryffusnicofee: good to know
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09:42.13gryffustosky: it worked before if i remember with ktp -> telepathy -> telepathy-haze (libpurple) -> libpurple-skypeweb
09:42.22gryffustosky: https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb#skypeweb-plugin-for-pidgin
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09:45.39toskygryffus: you can always directly add it to kopete
09:47.29gryffustosky: well for now i am more satisfied with KTP (mainly UI reasons)
09:47.41gryffusand using the official app for the Skype
09:49.10gryffusBut i am still playing with the idea to switch to pidgin, because it supports both Skype and Facebook (reverse engineered)... But the GTK is just so ugly :(
09:49.50gryffusI have even tried Miranda in wine last week... Felt like 15 years ago :x
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09:52.15gryffusYou know, from the start of Akonadi and KTP, i was hoping to get possibility to initiate IM calls and IM chats from Kontact... But this have never happened sadly. Even if work on this "bridge" was announced several times... It would be neat if i could just open a contact in Kontact and call him with any IM i have for him
09:52.30gryffuss/have/has
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18:33.11EightynineHello. I'm running Tumbleweed, I tried to set up keyboard layouts and I see keyboard icon on taskbar. How can I change it to show language icon or flag?
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18:39.56AristideHello Eightynine ! If I have understand, you want to display flag into tray ?
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18:41.04EightynineGreetings Aristide! Either a flag or language icon. But none of them work.
18:41.24AristideEightynine: I have try this https://i.imgur.com/WC5GeAS.png
18:41.53AristideAnd its work
18:43.45EightynineBy the way KDE became much better from the last time I tried it. I hate those feedback and blur effect but feedback could be turned off and them could be changed. Running without any problems, works fast, takes not so much RAM comparing to Gnome.
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18:45.21Eightynine"Show for single layout" That was turned off.
18:45.23jankusanagi_Plasma rocks =)
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18:46.54EightynineAristide For some reason it didn't help. jankusanagi_ Which distribution and version?
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18:47.38AristideEightynine: Hm . Sorry I Don't know :(
18:48.03EightynineMaybe Tumbleweed is a bad choice?
18:49.14Eightynineplasma-pa or phonon? Which one should I install? Sound icon is missing.
18:49.41Aristideplasma-pa for volume :)
18:49.53jankusanagi_what? I'm using Mageia with Plasma 5.13.x
18:50.01AristideNeon :p
18:50.19jankusanagi_and phonon is not something one installs manually
18:50.44asturmEightynine: plasma-pa should be on your system already if you installed it with KDE packages
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18:53.16Eightyninejankusanagi_ Do you have tearing?
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18:53.31jankusanagi_not particularly
18:53.46jankusanagi_but that is a very ambiguous question =)
18:54.20EightynineBut I have. I used Ubuntu previously and it worked bad. I decided to switch to openSUSE.
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18:56.07jankusanagi_I wouldn't try to fix my issues by jumping distribution every time I find something wrong =)
18:57.56EightynineProblem is Chrome was crashing, YouTube took a lot of resources and was freezing. I tried to update kernel, Xorg and Mesa and it became much better but still Chrome was crashing. "Application stopped running" but I saw it was running.
18:58.46EightynineTearing appeared after I switched from Gnome to KDE in openSUSE.
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19:09.58Eightynineplasma5-pa, not plasma-pa. I'm a dumbass.
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19:24.46jankusanagi_weird package naming :D
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19:28.48asturmwell, I see where they are coming from. upstream name however is plasma-pa...
19:35.04EightynineSo that means OpenSUSE team again did something in their own way?
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19:36.37asturmEightynine: it's just a package name. distros will choose different names/added versioning for various reasons
19:37.11asturmit does not affect the software at all, just your success on package searches
19:38.27EightynineSome packages came from OpenSUSE, not from Tumbleweed. Why is that?
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19:54.13jankusanagi_it's not like "tumbleweed" is someone else...
19:54.29jankusanagi_but openSUSE-related questions will be better answered on openSUSE's channels
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20:22.14EightynineReinstalled Plasma. Internet stopped working. Restarted Network Manager. It told me that I should restart session. I did that and now I have flags on keyboard layout indicator and I see 2 volume icons, but when I'm trying to add widgets it says I have 3 of them. How can I remove those 2?
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