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| 00:09.25 | arfnir | hi. test! |
| 00:10.39 | arfnir | Jucato: hi. pls! how to make that #=> ~jucato@kde/developer/jucato |
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| 00:13.31 | JanKusanagi | you should use your favorite search engine and look for "freenode cloak" (and ask with more context) |
| 00:14.43 | arfnir | JanKusanagi: thanks man! |
| 00:15.01 | JanKusanagi | who said I'm a man? =) |
| 00:16.32 | arfnir | JanKusanagi: xD yeah ? ? ? |
| 00:16.42 | arfnir | JanKusanagi: Project cloaks can only be requested by a registered group contact of an already |
| 00:17.04 | JanKusanagi | please don't mention me at every message |
| 00:17.20 | arfnir | ok! |
| 00:17.21 | JanKusanagi | and there are more kinds of cloaks |
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| 01:27.50 | JanKusanagi | I don't think there's such an option |
| 01:28.05 | JanKusanagi | tne Notes plasmoid allows that, but that's its own option |
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| 10:03.42 | Triffid_Hunter | hmm got a problem.. opened a PDF with forms in okular, wrote some utf8 into a field but it's invisible in print preview and if I print to PDF :( |
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| 10:12.45 | King_DuckZ | hi, after a few days of uptime (1 or 2 days usually) I get akonadi server taking one cpu core at 100% and I have no idea what it's doing |
| 10:13.08 | King_DuckZ | it's really annoying as it drains my battery, how can I stop it? |
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| 11:10.07 | Triffid_Hunter | King_DuckZ: hmm, remove it? I don't have any akonadi here |
| 11:11.55 | Triffid_Hunter | heh after reading https://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM/Akonadi I still have zero clue what it's supposed to do |
| 11:13.21 | King_DuckZ | if kde works without it, you don't have to tell me twice ;) |
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| 11:15.18 | SchneeSchwarz | KDE will probably work without it. The PIM applications like kmail, korganizer etc. very likely won't. |
| 11:17.26 | King_DuckZ | ahh good call, now I remember removing it in the past and kmail broke |
| 11:17.38 | King_DuckZ | I do use kmail :/ |
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| 11:20.23 | tosky | akonadi is a basic requirements of (most of) KDEPIM applications |
| 11:20.34 | tosky | Plasma does not depend on it |
| 11:21.22 | King_DuckZ | https://imgur.com/a/Jzq5wW0 top is yesterday, bottom is today |
| 11:23.42 | King_DuckZ | https://imgur.com/a/69pmy7z this goes with yesterday's pic, unfortunately the process names are covered but top ones are akonadi, mysql and then maybe clementine and pulseaudio |
| 11:24.18 | King_DuckZ | I have no idea what's calculating with all this cpu time, like uptime is 7 days now |
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| 11:28.03 | cimjaro | why is baloo spiking my CPU |
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| 11:30.30 | King_DuckZ | single-core cpu cryptomining? |
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| 11:30.55 | cimjaro | it keeps logging konversation logs |
| 11:31.07 | cimjaro | which is very low in file size but it spikes the cpu |
| 11:31.52 | King_DuckZ | idk for me it's akonadi |
| 11:32.02 | cimjaro | i'm not cryptomining |
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| 11:32.17 | King_DuckZ | cimjaro: that was a joke |
| 11:32.47 | cimjaro | didn't seem like it, sorry |
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| 11:34.19 | cimjaro | disabling index in system settings fixed the cpu issue |
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| 11:39.07 | shtrb | anyone with debian , network-manager applet and 3G connection can say if they can add a 3G connection via the UI ? |
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| 11:44.15 | King_DuckZ | facepalm |
| 11:44.43 | shtrb | what ? |
| 11:44.47 | King_DuckZ | is akonadi storing my emails? |
| 11:44.55 | shtrb | no one uses 3G anymore ? |
| 11:45.00 | shtrb | King_DuckZ, only a cache |
| 11:45.47 | King_DuckZ | I did this https://askubuntu.com/questions/205250/akonadi-and-kmail-using-100-cpu before reading the "do not do this" comment |
| 11:45.54 | King_DuckZ | it's all fucked up now |
| 11:46.04 | tosky | shtrb: I've only used my phone directly with USB or wifi tethering lately |
| 11:46.11 | tosky | so it's up to the phone |
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| 11:47.23 | King_DuckZ | that's it, on my new computer I'm ditching kmail |
| 11:48.20 | shtrb | tosky, the command like approach with nmcli works for me I just can't fire up the UI to add new connections |
| 11:48.44 | King_DuckZ | even better, I'm ditching it *now* |
| 11:49.17 | shtrb | I do have libkf5modemmanagerqt6 which is expected to provide the UI for the add network |
| 11:49.25 | shtrb | tosky, does add new network connection work for you ? |
| 11:51.02 | shtrb | King_DuckZ, you never touch config file and expect it to continue working |
| 11:53.12 | King_DuckZ | I expected akonadi to break, not kmail |
| 11:53.23 | shtrb | facepalm |
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| 11:53.51 | shtrb | King_DuckZ, KMail is a UI for a backend |
| 11:54.01 | shtrb | the backend is akonadi |
| 11:54.13 | King_DuckZ | facepalm |
| 11:54.26 | King_DuckZ | that's overengineering at its best |
| 11:54.38 | leszek | What is the issue you have King_DuckZ?` |
| 11:54.40 | shtrb | KMail has a few nice features but effectivally it's just a UI for akonadi this days (from an end user point of view). |
| 11:54.49 | King_DuckZ | leszek: hey, sup |
| 11:54.51 | shtrb | King_DuckZ, you should have solved the 100% cpu issue |
| 11:55.15 | King_DuckZ | shtrb: nah, it's back to crunching again |
| 11:55.16 | shtrb | it could be as simple as modifying the IMAP service |
| 11:55.31 | shtrb | King_DuckZ, is it IMAP ? |
| 11:55.49 | King_DuckZ | I don't have accounts in kmail anymore, but yes it used to be 2 imap accounts |
| 11:55.56 | leszek | initial syncing of mail accounts eats up a bit of cpu |
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| 11:56.17 | shtrb | you can stop nepmunk /baloo while this happen (to see if it's really the IMAP) |
| 11:56.23 | leszek | and you need to use mysqld backend for akonadi not the sqlite backend as I experienced lots of shit with this |
| 11:56.26 | shtrb | leszek, and when the ID goes out of sink |
| 11:56.29 | joules | hi, is it possible to pan the stereo channels with KDE? |
| 11:56.31 | King_DuckZ | leszek: that, or it was calculating the path to send rockets around the solar system |
| 11:58.33 | King_DuckZ | shtrb: it's still not justified the amount of cpu needed for whatever "feature" this akonadi thing is trying to provide |
| 11:58.57 | shtrb | King_DuckZ, not saying it is , first we need to search what takes 100% |
| 11:59.16 | shtrb | it could for exapmple that you have some magic sieve filter or some script that does that |
| 11:59.36 | King_DuckZ | like, I get 4 cores at 60% now and it's been like that for 30 min already, what's so computationally expensive in storing ascii? |
| 12:00.22 | shtrb | you could have tried to prove that P=NP :D |
| 12:00.49 | shtrb | it could take some time :{ |
| 12:00.51 | shtrb | :P |
| 12:01.02 | King_DuckZ | yeah, it's either doing that, or cryptomining as I said earlier :D |
| 12:01.19 | King_DuckZ | bleh kmail won't even start anymore |
| 12:01.56 | King_DuckZ | it doesn't matter, I have better to do with my time than mess around with the mail client, I'll just pick another |
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| 12:02.56 | shtrb | back to the issue , local server or cloud ? |
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| 12:20.29 | ktonga | is there a way to suppress a window requesting attention? |
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| 12:23.07 | SchneeSchwarz | ktonga: look at system settings / window behaviour / prevent unwanted activation |
| 12:23.16 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 12:23.45 | SchneeSchwarz | I'm not on an English locale, so it might be called differently |
| 12:24.00 | ktonga | SchneeSchwarz: I don't want to totally turn the feature off |
| 12:24.35 | ktonga | i want to handle in a per case basis, like i have a shortcut for focusing the window requesting attention |
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| 12:25.17 | ktonga | but in some cases i know what it is about and want to just ignore it, but the panel won't hide until i do something |
| 12:27.36 | SchneeSchwarz | No idea how to achieve this. |
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| 12:32.20 | tosky | shtrb: I didn't have to add network connection based on modems for a while; tethering means that I see an ethernet port or a wifi hotspot, so I can't help |
| 12:34.51 | shtrb | oh thanks |
| 12:35.06 | shtrb | it's only a UI thing, it works when I added via command line. |
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| 13:48.13 | shtrb | sorry, having an irc client on a 100% cpu machine was not a good idea |
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| 13:50.30 | BluesKaj | cpus at 100% ? |
| 13:50.39 | shtrb | yes |
| 13:50.58 | BluesKaj | must be busy and hot |
| 13:51.28 | shtrb | first hi, and secondly it was to confirm a bug that one user had faced |
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| 13:52.06 | BluesKaj | hi shtrb |
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| 15:52.33 | sekisushai_ | hello, i'm having trouble to have the correct DPI on kubuntu 18.04 on a Dell XPS 13 |
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| 15:53.14 | sekisushai_ | the screen dimensions are 3840x2160 |
| 15:53.44 | sekisushai_ | and the DPI is 96x96, from xdyinfo | grep resolution |
| 15:54.32 | sekisushai_ | I would like to increase the DPI to 120x120, permanently. How could I do this ? |
| 15:55.37 | JanKusanagi | there's a setting for that in the Fonts section of Plasma's system settigns |
| 15:57.37 | Osleg | sekisushai_: from my experience - don't touch DPI |
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| 15:58.01 | Osleg | go to System Settings -> Display and Monitors |
| 15:58.01 | JanKusanagi | why not? |
| 15:58.04 | sekisushai_ | Osleg: I have to, the fonts are sooo small on this high resolution screen.. |
| 15:58.12 | Osleg | and then just set scaling to what feels good to you |
| 15:58.25 | Osleg | It will set everything for you according to the scaling you did |
| 15:58.43 | Osleg | I have an XPS15 4k screen, that was completely enough to have everything perfect |
| 15:59.17 | Osleg | and DPI in system settings - fonts are set to 144 automatically after I chose scaling |
| 16:00.20 | Osleg | JanKusanagi: cuz last time that I touched DPI in fonts settings before scaling in monitors settings it rendered my system unusable and had to remove all the KDE/plasma config files to fix that |
| 16:00.27 | Osleg | and last time I mean couple of days ago ^_^ |
| 16:00.36 | JanKusanagi | I've never had a problem changing DPI |
| 16:00.48 | Osleg | yeah no problem with that |
| 16:00.50 | Osleg | or scaling |
| 16:00.53 | JanKusanagi | the setting exists for a reason |
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| 16:01.02 | Osleg | but when done together it breaks stuff |
| 16:01.18 | JanKusanagi | scaling is fine probably for most situations, but some of us prefer bigger fonts in relation to other stuff |
| 16:01.41 | Osleg | Change font size, I guess you didn't met the hiDPI hell yet? :) |
| 16:01.50 | Osleg | anyhow |
| 16:01.57 | JanKusanagi | changin DPI is easier, faster, and more effective everywhere |
| 16:02.07 | Osleg | That's just a suggestion coming from personal experience from couple of days ago |
| 16:02.15 | Osleg | the rest is up to you, you know :) |
| 16:02.27 | JanKusanagi | sure, but if you found a bug, please report it |
| 16:02.42 | JanKusanagi | rather than scare anyone with your personal experience =) |
| 16:02.44 | Osleg | I'm pretty sure it's not a bug |
| 16:02.52 | Osleg | It's a feature |
| 16:02.52 | JanKusanagi | so things break, and it's not a bug? |
| 16:02.59 | Osleg | yup |
| 16:03.03 | JanKusanagi | well, you said "things break" |
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| 16:03.33 | Osleg | Let me try to explain that again |
| 16:03.50 | Osleg | When you do scaling in monitor settings it sets the DPI in fonts settings for you |
| 16:04.10 | Osleg | eg with scaling 1 it will be 96, with 1.5 (mine) 144 with 2 - 192 |
| 16:04.21 | Osleg | But you can override it and set scaling for yourself |
| 16:04.27 | Osleg | s/scaling/dpi |
| 16:04.38 | Osleg | so you can scale everything + set dpi manually |
| 16:04.51 | JanKusanagi | so you have the freedom to consciously mess things up for yourself |
| 16:05.18 | Osleg | exactly |
| 16:05.32 | Osleg | So that's not a bug as I personally see it |
| 16:05.41 | Osleg | it's the freedom that KDE provides |
| 16:05.42 | JanKusanagi | your warning to sekisushai_ certainly sounded more like "don't touch that!! breaks things!!" xD |
| 16:05.45 | Osleg | ^_^ |
| 16:06.05 | JanKusanagi | I guess you could've worded it differently, all clear now :D |
| 16:06.19 | Osleg | well that's my problem I'm trying to work on for last year... I can't explain myself correctly in english unless I'm writting an essay :D |
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| 16:09.44 | JanKusanagi | well, if English isn't your primary language, I'd say your speak it really well |
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| 16:15.59 | Osleg | I'm trying :D |
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