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| 00:31.10 | D-rex | anyone experience plasma discover not showing progress while updating? |
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| 00:34.03 | ngraham | yes |
| 00:34.05 | ngraham | fixed in Plasma 5.14.4 |
| 00:34.23 | ngraham | (or at least, it's supposed to be) |
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| 05:44.57 | Jin_Roh | Good night. I am using kate Version 19.03.70. How can I use a custom xml highlight file? I tried to put it in $HOME/.local/share/org.kde.syntax-highlighting/syntax/ but it was not recognized. |
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| 08:08.52 | jo_ | hello. I'm trying to make/configure application built with KDE3.5 libraries on ubuntu 18, is it possible? Tried to install KDE latest, but script requires KDE3.5 files, I'm stuck |
| 08:09.16 | shtrb | it is little bit outdated |
| 08:09.57 | jo_ | yh I guess, is it lost case? |
| 08:10.27 | shtrb | no, you can update it to KF5 or to grab the good old 3.5 via TDE |
| 08:10.34 | shtrb | don't know what is better for you |
| 08:11.48 | jo_ | good pointer, I checked TDE, but 3.5 is offered only up to ubuntu 13 while I'm on 18, stuck here |
| 08:12.07 | shtrb | time to port or send some pizza to a porter |
| 08:13.08 | jo_ | yup wouldn't mind, he definitively needs it :) |
| 08:14.17 | shtrb | do you know the orginal dev or someone who care about the project ? |
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| 08:16.02 | xxzz | hi, is windows KDE project dead? |
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| 08:17.19 | shtrb | I actually used it not so long ago , not all works got a crash with LXSS :D (blue screen) |
| 08:17.43 | xxzz | can't find the installer anywhere |
| 08:18.59 | shtrb | you can use with lxss .... just fire up a local X server |
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| 08:20.27 | xxzz | I've windows 7, IMO no LXSS available there |
| 08:20.36 | xxzz | won't mind building KDE with mingw |
| 08:21.01 | shtrb | It's even better ! you can use kde4win in such case |
| 08:21.04 | xxzz | 4 years back I had it working, it was great |
| 08:21.29 | shtrb | dbus was crazy there , but it's win7 |
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| 08:22.23 | shtrb | xxzz, #kde-windows last I check and kde-windows@kde.org and https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Build_from_source/Windows |
| 08:22.25 | xxzz | got it, thanks |
| 08:22.37 | xxzz | yes with craft, I am on it now |
| 08:23.15 | shtrb | and you have an ML where you can try to get help |
| 08:23.35 | xxzz | Okay |
| 08:23.56 | shtrb | Sorry ML= mailing list |
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| 08:53.03 | MichaelOF | pepo: "[Donnerstag, 29. November 2018] [15:51:31 CET] <pepo> MichaelOF, you can change font size in kcharselect" - THANK YOU!! You're right, it's on the main (and only) screen, so much to obvious for me, yesterday. Searched for config menus/options, searched the net, even browsed bugs.kde.org for open/known issues :D |
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| 11:02.21 | t-ask | Hi, is there a convenient way for desktop sharing via Internet from one Plasma Desktop to another and/or Win? Maybe via Tox as Online Account? |
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| 11:57.01 | t-ask | Is kdetalk.net serviuce down? I can't register. |
| 11:58.52 | jankusanagi_ | it's not down, at least |
| 11:59.04 | jankusanagi_ | maybe they disabled registration due to spammers |
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| 12:00.59 | t-ask | Ok, then I ask sysadmin |
| 12:01.58 | jankusanagi_ | yep, Psi clearly says "this server does not support registration" |
| 12:02.27 | jankusanagi_ | but my existing account is working fine, S2S and all |
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| 12:05.04 | t-ask | I did try with Online Accounts and got a "The service is not available" error. I just ask for an account. |
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| 12:32.33 | t-ask | If I want to report a minor bug. Is thewre any recommenden tag I can use to mark it so. (Phabricator)? |
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| 12:35.38 | tosky | t-ask: bugs.kde.org is the place |
| 12:36.21 | t-ask | I see. |
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| 12:46.41 | ShalokShalom | is there any way to get rid of the status bar in smplayer? |
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| 13:00.35 | tosky | you should ask smplayer developers |
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| 13:36.37 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
| 13:38.03 | JanKusanagi | o/ |
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| 13:40.52 | t-ask | \o |
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| 13:42.59 | rindolf | BluesKaj: hi, sup? |
| 13:45.09 | BluesKaj | hey rindolf , the usual morning coffee, and you? |
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| 13:46.28 | rindolf | BluesKaj: tried to optimise freecell solver yesterday |
| 13:47.10 | BluesKaj | rindolf, good stuff :-) |
| 13:47.17 | rindolf | BluesKaj: and been trying to make my sites more mobile friendly |
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| 13:48.12 | rindolf | BluesKaj: and solved a project euler problem |
| 13:49.04 | BluesKaj | rindolf, apart from trying to fix my phone's wifi problem , I'm testing Kubuntu 19.04 atm, and it's quite stable so far |
| 13:50.31 | rindolf | BluesKaj: ah, nice |
| 13:51.16 | rindolf | BluesKaj: for some reason mageia 7 installs slowly in vbox here - manjaro is fine |
| 13:51.38 | BluesKaj | right |
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| 15:07.00 | t-ask | Not sure if it is realted to Activities. It looks liek Firefox window content vanishes if I assing an activity and change to another and back. |
| 15:08.02 | t-ask | I have to terminate FF then |
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| 15:23.49 | jankusanagi_ | do you stop the activity, or just switch between 2 active ones? |
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| 15:29.27 | hazaardinari | a little help please? |
| 15:29.28 | hazaardinari | https://pastebin.com/vBXKaz2T |
| 15:32.25 | jankusanagi_ | why sudo??? |
| 15:32.39 | hazaardinari | because in root/.... |
| 15:33.17 | jankusanagi_ | ? |
| 15:33.21 | jankusanagi_ | how's root involved here? |
| 15:33.23 | hazaardinari | i ran it without sudo.... |
| 15:33.32 | jankusanagi_ | anyway, the error clearly states there's a missing file |
| 15:33.48 | hazaardinari | worked without sudo lol |
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| 15:33.58 | jankusanagi_ | obviously |
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| 15:34.12 | jankusanagi_ | I'll never understand the sudo sickness... |
| 15:34.30 | hazaardinari | so if i take it correctly, sudo actually stops me from accessing files? |
| 15:34.35 | jankusanagi_ | if sudo was needed for _every_ command, wouldn't the system do it automatically? |
| 15:34.38 | tosky | no, that's different |
| 15:34.39 | hazaardinari | isnt sudo the key to everything? |
| 15:34.42 | tosky | no |
| 15:34.49 | jankusanagi_ | no, sudo is making your script interpret ~ as something else |
| 15:34.55 | jankusanagi_ | not your user's home, root's home |
| 15:35.05 | jankusanagi_ | and no, sudo is not a key to everything |
| 15:35.09 | jankusanagi_ | if sudo was needed for _every_ command, wouldn't the system do it automatically? |
| 15:35.20 | hazaardinari | agreed |
| 15:35.24 | hazaardinari | sorry my bad |
| 15:35.40 | jankusanagi_ | why would the system require to type sudo for everything? if it's always needed, the system would add it internally |
| 15:35.41 | hazaardinari | thanks a million |
| 15:35.47 | jankusanagi_ | yw |
| 15:35.56 | jankusanagi_ | and please, don't "sudo everything" |
| 15:36.08 | jankusanagi_ | I blame Ubuntu culture xD |
| 15:41.23 | Acheron | i'm still waiting for Dolphin to be 'fixed' |
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| 16:10.57 | BluesKaj | Acheron, why what's wrong with Dolphin?...works fine here |
| 16:13.05 | jankusanagi_ | and here =) |
| 16:13.58 | Acheron | need a fix to be able to browse camera files VIA USB |
| 16:14.37 | asturm | no need for sudo |
| 16:14.46 | jankusanagi_ | certainly not =) |
| 16:14.57 | Corosus | it might have problems depending on your device, i applied a fix in one of the bug reports and now it works great for me |
| 16:16.18 | BluesKaj | Acheron, the usb not showing up in Dolphin/Devices? |
| 16:16.56 | Corosus | to be specific, comment 39 here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387454#c39 , seemed more related for MTP/KIO than dolphin specifically, your issue may differ |
| 16:17.22 | Acheron | specifically the memory card in the camera |
| 16:17.48 | Acheron | the work around in the past was to use dolphin as root |
| 16:17.55 | Acheron | but that was removed |
| 16:17.56 | jankusanagi_ | yikes |
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| 16:18.26 | Acheron | this bug has been around for like 8 years |
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| 16:19.15 | BluesKaj | ahh the root actions services plugin not working, that's become a pita lately |
| 16:19.30 | jankusanagi_ | I doubt that bug is in Dolphin |
| 16:19.35 | jankusanagi_ | or any kioslave for that matter |
| 16:20.01 | jankusanagi_ | some layer underneath, in your OS, should make the device available to _your user_ |
| 16:20.34 | Acheron | probably best to do so a google search on the issue rather than to assume |
| 16:21.00 | Acheron | and furthermore, KDE the only distro / OS that has the issue |
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| 16:21.12 | Acheron | going back to Windows XP |
| 16:21.34 | guoyunhe | How could I reset all dolphin settings to get the default left panel? |
| 16:21.54 | guoyunhe | I kind of messed up the left panel icons... |
| 16:23.05 | jankusanagi_ | the "Places" are located in ~/.local/share/user-places.xbel |
| 16:23.20 | jankusanagi_ | you could try renaming that file or moving it away, with Dolphin closed |
| 16:23.26 | asturm | Acheron: your system is misconfigured |
| 16:24.04 | guoyunhe | jankusanagi_: Big thanks! |
| 16:24.17 | Acheron | asturm, you obviously did not read what i just said |
| 16:24.32 | Acheron | how about an iggy for you |
| 16:25.30 | jankusanagi_ | yw guoyunhe =) |
| 16:26.57 | Acheron | google: cant browse usb camera files in dolphin |
| 16:27.34 | jankusanagi_ | any search engine: can't <whatever> in <whatever> â 12032390482903489023402394 matches |
| 16:27.42 | jankusanagi_ | doesn't mean your system is not misconfigured |
| 16:28.34 | Acheron | oh, but i thought KDE has all these wonderful defaults |
| 16:28.49 | Acheron | and its reproducible on four computers |
| 16:28.52 | asturm | the community is wonderful by default |
| 16:28.59 | jankusanagi_ | KDE is people |
| 16:29.06 | Acheron | this is why KDE is dying |
| 16:29.09 | jankusanagi_ | but Dolphin can't be responsible for lower layers of the OS |
| 16:29.15 | jankusanagi_ | xDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 16:29.19 | jankusanagi_ | sure, sure... |
| 16:29.24 | einar77_work | Acheron: accessing as root / not root is the OS job |
| 16:29.28 | asturm | Acheron: what camera is that? |
| 16:29.33 | tosky | which camera? Does other *nix software use gphoto2 to access it, or does the camera show as USB storage device? |
| 16:29.33 | jankusanagi_ | feels the effects of aging... |
| 16:29.39 | Acheron | 800 peps in here idling all the time |
| 16:29.46 | einar77_work | jankusanagi_: only if Netcraft confirms it! |
| 16:29.47 | asturm | Acheron: that's irc to you |
| 16:30.06 | Acheron | its works on ALL other Distos <<00 listen |
| 16:30.12 | tosky | Acheron: 800 people who may not read this all the time |
| 16:30.13 | asturm | Acheron: what camera is it |
| 16:30.13 | einar77_work | Acheron: which distro |
| 16:30.18 | einar77_work | and which camera, yes |
| 16:30.25 | jankusanagi_ | einar77_work: a google search for "kde is dying" probably yields 30483904823904890 results =) |
| 16:30.35 | Acheron | its a standard digital picture camera |
| 16:30.36 | einar77_work | I access my files every time I go on holiday to back them up (in my camera) |
| 16:30.43 | einar77_work | (Nikon N9000) |
| 16:30.46 | tosky | there no "standard" digital picture camera |
| 16:30.49 | Acheron | via USB |
| 16:30.59 | jankusanagi_ | well, I've never had any problem with any digital camera and Dolphin, so... |
| 16:31.03 | einar77_work | Acheron: you can access a camera via USB in at least 2 different ways |
| 16:31.05 | asturm | Acheron: so which one |
| 16:31.06 | einar77_work | so it's not "standard" |
| 16:31.09 | jankusanagi_ | your system is wrong, because "works for me" =) |
| 16:31.12 | tosky | is it seen as a USB storage device (aka: like a disk), or does it require special software when you don't use dolphin? |
| 16:31.55 | Acheron | it is seen as a standard USB device |
| 16:32.02 | tosky | so like a disk? |
| 16:32.03 | Acheron | i never need any software |
| 16:32.31 | Acheron | its worked since XP and works on all other Linux DEs -- except KDE |
| 16:32.51 | tosky | so what do you see in the output of the `dmesg` command when you attach it? |
| 16:33.09 | Acheron | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1290244 |
| 16:33.40 | Acheron | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/1256591 |
| 16:33.49 | Acheron | The "workaround" is to use Digikam |
| 16:33.53 | Acheron | and that does work |
| 16:34.06 | asturm | attaches random camera to computer |
| 16:34.09 | tosky | if it's a bug, it's most likely not a dolphin bug anyway, but in some libraries |
| 16:34.10 | asturm | opens it in dolphin just fine |
| 16:34.16 | Acheron | is this a Dolphin or a kio bug? |
| 16:34.30 | tosky | oh, so it's PTP, so camera:/ ? |
| 16:34.34 | Acheron | fix it already !! |
| 16:34.36 | tosky | it's not then a normal USB device |
| 16:34.46 | asturm | it works anyway, camera:/ here. |
| 16:34.51 | Acheron | this has been around for 8 years |
| 16:35.38 | Acheron | read the reports |
| 16:36.01 | tosky | if I read that report, I see that the camera:/ URL was used |
| 16:36.09 | tosky | so it's not dolphin, it's the camera kioslave |
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| 16:37.21 | tosky | the last comment seems to point to a permission problem in the distribution (as the camera ioslave uses libgphoto) |
| 16:38.04 | tosky | if you run the commands reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/1256591/comments/63, do you get the same results? |
| 16:38.14 | asturm | Acheron: how do you start your session? |
| 16:39.30 | Acheron | i just plus the camera in |
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| 16:39.38 | asturm | Acheron: how do you start your session |
| 16:39.43 | asturm | your DE session |
| 16:40.07 | Acheron | as primary user |
| 16:40.14 | Acheron | i do not start as root |
| 16:40.15 | tosky | please try to reproduce the commands reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/1256591/comments/63 |
| 16:40.26 | asturm | Acheron: with a display manager or startx? |
| 16:40.29 | tosky | of course the argument of the second command depends on the output of the first command |
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| 16:40.44 | ntz | hello |
| 16:41.44 | jankusanagi_ | hi, ntz |
| 16:45.19 | ntz | I have minor but annoying and molesrarory problem ... I use this layout: https://infophagia.com/ntz/Screenshot_20181130_174332.png |
| 16:45.57 | ntz | but new windows - many of them are opening like this or even more beyond the display dimension https://infophagia.com/ntz/Screenshot_20181130_174300.png |
| 16:46.06 | ntz | all windows, kwrite, firefox, whatever .... |
| 16:46.26 | ntz | is it some bug ? |
| 16:47.06 | jankusanagi_ | what's the problem in that second screenshot? |
| 16:48.20 | jankusanagi_ | ah, it's bigger than the desktop... |
| 16:48.24 | ntz | yes |
| 16:48.29 | jankusanagi_ | it helps if you say that |
| 16:48.31 | jankusanagi_ | =) |
| 16:48.38 | ntz | and it happens in 100% of cases |
| 16:48.47 | ntz | ofc only when the second monitor is connected |
| 16:48.50 | jankusanagi_ | because without comparing both, second screenshot seems fine |
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| 16:48.57 | ntz | yeah |
| 16:49.19 | jankusanagi_ | I don't use multi-monitor, so let's just wait a while =) |
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| 16:52.18 | ntz | moreover this also applies: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1099655 |
| 16:52.25 | ntz | ^^ but it is not a big problem |
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| 16:59.15 | asturm | Acheron: are you away now? |
| 17:01.10 | Acheron | i was out of the room |
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| 18:59.58 | jsgrant | Man, KDE is so damn light without baloo actively trying to 'file index'. |
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| 19:01.27 | jsgrant | Left it going for like 2 days of maxed out processor and more than 6gb of ram and wasn't getting any better ... just disabled it, log out, deleted old index in share, then restarted session. Like 1gb of ram total now & only like 2-5% on each core for normal operation. |
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| 19:34.23 | letsfindout | if you disable baloo, you lose things like krunner though, no? |
| 19:34.35 | jankusanagi_ | no |
| 19:34.40 | jankusanagi_ | not at all |
| 19:34.55 | jankusanagi_ | you lose maybe 2% of the functionality of KRunner |
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| 19:36.13 | letsfindout | krunner doesn't run off a cache created by baloo? |
| 19:36.30 | jankusanagi_ | no |
| 19:36.45 | jankusanagi_ | of the many runners, a few might require baloo |
| 19:36.50 | jankusanagi_ | but most have nothing to do with it |
| 19:37.18 | letsfindout | how is krunner finding anything then? it must be searching some cache store |
| 19:37.37 | jankusanagi_ | well, I don't know the internals, but it's not from Baloo for most things |
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| 19:39.05 | jankusanagi_ | "Desktop search" requires Baloo, but it might be the only one |
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| 19:41.04 | letsfindout | hmm, well, luckily I haven't had any issues with baloo. It sounds like jsgrant should file a bug |
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| 19:52.56 | pepo | most stuff krunner needs is cached in ksycoca5 |
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| 20:24.03 | letsfindout | in the context of keyboard shortcuts, what keystroke is "Launch (C)"? |
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| 20:44.34 | pepo | a multimedia key |
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| 20:55.36 | jsgrant | letsfindout: I've looked into it a tiny bit, and seems like it's actually fairly common. |
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| 21:01.55 | jsgrant | I also have a non-trivial amoulnt of stuff (like 1tb on workstation home dir & near 1.5tb on home-server) so that probably doesn't help it I guess. |
| 21:02.09 | jsgrant | Toooons of family pictures and movies on latter; That had a similar issue. |
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