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01:40.30*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.14 and KDE Applications 18.08 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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02:09.32D-rextrying to connect via bluetooth from desktop kde to laptop.  sometimes it connects and stats connected and i can send files but then, what seems to be randomly, it stops connecting.  where do I start to try and diagnose?
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02:37.39pepoD-rex, latest version of kdeconnect on desktop and phone?
02:38.09D-rexyes but it's desktop to laptop that's not working
02:38.21D-rexit works sometimes
02:38.30D-rexnot sure whats making it stop work
02:38.40pepooh bluetooth, not sure if that is officially supported
02:39.14D-rexok, ill just have to live with it
02:39.36D-rexi seldom use it anyway just nice when i need it
02:39.54pepoit should work with WLAN, bluetooth is still experimental, see https://phabricator.kde.org/T7447
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09:50.54Psy-Qfor the second time this year, Plasma wouldn't start. it shows its loading screen but the desktop session never opens. .xsession-errors contains no useful messages, but trashing .config, .kde, .local and .XAuthority "fixes" it
09:51.31Psy-Qthat on Debian 9, plasma 5.8.6, framework 5.28.0. how can i figure out what exactly causes it next time?
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10:11.20Triffid_Hunterinstead of trashing things, rename them one at a time to try and narrow down which specific thing is making it sad
10:12.02Triffid_Huntercould also capture ps faux to see if there's anything obvious it might be waiting on
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12:23.44BluesKajHi folks
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13:07.44JanKusanagiwow, trashing those dierctories is such a BAD idea...
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13:28.54Psy-Qi just rename them. but there are now maybe 30, 40 ~/.config/k* config files, and the same number of dirs in ~/.local/share, it would take hours to step through them
13:29.15Psy-Qplus the things in .kde/share/config
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13:31.57Psy-Qwith no indication of what might be going wrong in any relevant logs and perhaps 8 - 10 seconds between sddm restarts and 40 seconds for a login attempt after each file, let's say 10 seconds to move the correct file out of the way, that's 100 minutes of just renaming files and logging in, in the worst case :)
13:32.07toskyeverything which is not related to plasma and ksmserver is probably harmless
13:32.52Psy-Qhow can i tell which config files affect plasma or ksmserver?
13:33.04toskythe name may help...
13:33.10toskyif a file is okularrc, it's about okular
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13:33.30toskyif it's plasmashellrc, it's plasma
13:35.21Psy-QOK, i'll attack those first next time
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17:42.57qwedfgI changed to wayland and I have the usual problem with libinput
17:43.25qwedfgwell one issue I managed to fix with quirk for libinput, the pressure range so it doesnt jump when I lift my finger
17:44.07qwedfgbut then I have also too fast scrolling, and the libinput guys say they do not do anything with edge scrolling data, they just mererly passing it to the backend
17:44.13qwedfgwhich is in this case kwin
17:44.32qwedfgso I am wondering if there's any update to the kwin scrolling
17:45.07qwedfgit isnt perfect either, sometimes the edge scroll doesnt trigger at all, but when looking at libinput debugging it seems that the events are passed
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18:24.57qwedfgI am trying to track this down in kwin maybe I can debug this
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19:27.10arminhttp://m2m.pm/update.jpg <- anyone a hint what component or program to submit a bug report for in such case? this is plasma on debian unstable for that matter, but i have zero clue where that actually comes from.
19:27.36ngrahambug in Discover
19:27.46ngrahamwhat's your plasma version?
19:28.52arminngraham: plasmashell 5.14.3
19:29.00arminngraham: is that what you refer to?
19:29.14ngrahamyes, thanks. Please file a bug
19:29.38arminwill do, thanks a lot. :)
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19:29.49ngrahamno problem!
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22:57.02void9qbittorrent automatically starts after reboot. i don't have it on autostart. does plasma start previously opened programs?
22:57.28void9the problem is, the torrents running are on drives that are not automatically mounted, so i have to recheck them every time.. not cool
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23:00.48void9ok found it, system settings, startup and shutdown -> desktop session, resume
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23:48.22_r00t-Hello,  i have some issues with kwin_wayland ... gpus: intel/radeon distros: fedora 29/arch linux check here please: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396585   and   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvoGTHktsg4 as well. thank you.
23:50.08_r00t-KDE 5.14.3 :)
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23:51.48jankusanagi_Plasma 5.14.3 =)
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23:52.32_r00t-yeah... :P
23:53.02jankusanagi_but if it's a bug, and reported already... what's the question?
23:53.43_r00t-just if somebody here has a solution for it
23:54.03jankusanagi_ah, ok
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