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00:36.51ErnieMenenWhat up bitches!!!
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04:17.28GerbilSofti'm not sure if this is caused by sddm or kde or what, but after some upgrade some time ago, some component is creating a file ~/6V/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log and logging X11 messages to it
04:17.47GerbilSoftthe "6V" is some random 2-character directory that usually ends in V or U, and the 6 might be an untypable character
04:17.52GerbilSoftanyone else have this issue?
04:18.41GerbilSoftactually, found it - https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/1145
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04:25.53jankusanagi_it's fine over here
04:26.16jankusanagi_the log is at that path, but without the "6V" weird part :D
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04:38.18kode54jankusanagi_: it was a bug that just hit GerbilSoft because they picked up the buggy code in their last update I guess
04:38.22kode54it's fixed now
04:38.31jankusanagi_\o/
04:38.37kode54basically, a _r (threadsafe) string/struct returning function
04:38.41GerbilSoftit's a use after free
04:38.50kode54it stores the return values in a buffer you allocate, and they use after free, yes
04:39.00GerbilSofthttps://github.com/sddm/sddm/commit/047ef56e5cfa757ebfcb03a248edad579564b5f3
04:39.15GerbilSoftusing sddm-0.18.0
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04:40.26kode54yup
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11:51.01BluesKajHowdy folks
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12:19.35tomboy64i've upgraded to plasma 5.15.2 last night and ever since i'm having issues. the most annoying one being that when i open "regional settings" in my systemsettings, my cpu spikes and systemsettings has to get force closed.
12:20.22tomboy64i found that most of my issues could be remedied by removing (backing up) my kde settings in ~/.config/
12:21.02tomboy64it seemed to also reset my configuration in systemsettings to default (for example i again had white breeze instead of dark breeze)
12:21.22tomboy64any suggestions on what else to try?
12:21.47asturmdid you also upgrade to frameworks-5.56?
12:21.59tomboy64my actual goal is to get my keyboard switch thingy back into my taskbar.
12:22.44tomboy64asturm: i upgraded work and did emerge @preserved-rebuild, so yes, i'm at kde-frameworks 5.56.0
12:23.04tomboy64i upgraded world, not work
12:23.53tomboy64asturm: i presume you're asturm from the gentoo bugtracker, so i'm using gentoo terms.
12:24.09asturmrightly so
12:24.23asturmthere is a known issue in kirigami-5.56 that might cause your problem
12:25.27tomboy64it's installed. can you give me further details? or suggestions?
12:26.18asturmerr, no. the potential fix is not backportable without conflict and a new release tarball was not made yet
12:26.29tomboy64:D
12:27.16tomboy64ah well, the price for living in testing i guess
12:27.20asturmtomboy64: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405001
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12:30.14tomboy64i see
12:31.08tomboy64would downgrading to kde-frameworks 5.54 suffice/be a viable solution?
12:31.44asturmbreaks your warranty but nobody is going to stop you ;)
12:31.46tomboy64or, as an alternative, could i manually enable that switch thingy somehow?
12:32.08asturmif you wait for a bit, I may be able to produce a patch
12:32.11tomboy64aw man, all that money for my support contract ... :p
12:32.38tomboy64oh, that would be awesome!
12:33.00tomboy64feel free to use me as guinea pig.
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12:52.38arminany news on the application starter menu resizability regression?
12:53.48asturmtomboy64: too many changes in there - don't feel comfortable picking commits, let's wait for the people who are into that code
12:54.32asturmtomboy64: fyi https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2019-March/011266.html
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12:57.37armin"Show applications by name" seems to act weird: https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/33e51570-2dd4-4375-b336-fe75d9f936d4.png
13:05.59tomboy64asturm: sounds promising. from your experience, what's the approximate timeframe for 5.56.1 to hit gentoo's tree? 2 weeks? a month maybe?
13:06.13tomboy64not asking for a definite date, just a rough estimate
13:06.22asturmtomboy64: whenever 5.56.1 is released
13:06.39tomboy64:D
13:06.42tomboy64good enough
13:08.32tomboy64asturm: thanks for looking into it.
13:08.40asturmsure
13:09.17tomboy64in the meantime, any suggestions how to change keyboard layouts without going through systemsettings?
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14:02.23Zaab1tWhen a program is playing sound, there is a little speaker in the task bar. I consider this a nice design choice. However if multiple windows of the same application are open, the speaker is shown for all of them. Is there a technical reason for why it is not only shown for the ones playing sound?
14:03.03Zaab1tIt is common for me (and probably many others) to e.g. have many Firefox windows open, but this makes it hard to figure out which one is playing the sound
14:03.17Zaab1tbug or technical limitation?
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14:49.12GerbilSoftZaab1t: iirc it's identified by process ID, not specific window
14:49.35inkbottleWhat is a convenient way to search in kde/plasma source code: I've been googling "is requesting access to this computer", and the only results were in opensuse and Ubuntu. I was expecting upstream.
14:49.57inkbottlehttps://github.com/search?q=org%3AKDE+requestauthorization.cpp returns nothing
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14:52.26inkbottleOK, found sth: https://github.com/KDE/bluedevil/blob/master/src/kded/helpers/requestauthorization.cpp
14:52.38Zaab1tGerbilSoft: maybe now, but could that be different? I dont really know anything about de software, but im imagining they have a concept of windows and what the different windows are doing seperate from os processes
14:53.08GerbilSoftpulseaudio would need to be changed to add something for that, and programs would need to be updated to indicate which window is associated with which stream
14:55.01Zaab1tAlright, that seems unlikely to happen. Do you think someone could come up with a different solution if an issue is opened?
14:55.17GerbilSoftnot really sure
14:55.42GerbilSoftsince afaik the only association pulseaudio makes with a stream is the pid, i'm fairly certain it requires an extension to the pulseaudio protocol
14:57.14Zaab1tDo you think special handling could be made for firefox and common kde audio playing software from kde's side of things? The goal being a better user experience of KDE
14:59.46GerbilSoftit'd probably need modifications in those programs and/or underlying libraries
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15:46.35szymon_ghi
15:50.01szymon_ghow can I configure expose-like behaviour on kde 5.13.15 (kubuntu 18.10)? I cannot find anything like that in kwin or windows settings
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15:58.03BluesKajszymon_g, there's an answer to your question #kubuntu chat
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16:06.45szymon_gthank you BluesKaj; by some reason I got no notification from konversation on the notification panel o.O
16:08.12BluesKajszymon_g, the helper didn't use your nick so no notification
16:08.35szymon_gaye, I know. I meant on this channel
16:12.13BluesKajszymon_g, go into konversation settings>config konverstaion>scroll down to "highligt , choose "always highlight my nick "
16:15.15szymon_gBluesKaj: it's already on. I can see text that includes my nick highlighted. somehow I was expecting info about that in the notification area on the bottom of the desktop. by the icons.
16:15.30szymon_gthere are OSD options though
16:16.11cb400fexpose? isn't that the "present windows" effect?
16:16.27cb400fiirc defaults are "mouse to the top left corner" or ctrl+f9
16:21.31BluesKajszymon_g, the chat tab gets highlighted in the colour you chose
16:25.14szymon_gaye, it does
16:25.30szymon_gcb400f: that's exactly what I was looking for. ta
16:26.11szymon_gany idea how can i bind it to the alt+tab?
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16:33.12szymon_gnevermind, found it :)
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17:00.53szymon_gok, another question: win+ arrow keys allow me to move window up, down, right or left. however, unless I click on the top bar of the window (or the maximise button), i cannot set it full screen. how can i bind that win + up arrow will not only move window to the upper half of the screen, but when pressed again, it will maximize it?
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17:55.32nekoexmachinahi there! I'm on F29 with Plasma 5.13.5/frameworks 5.50. Q: KWin has a nice feature of snapping to half-a-desktop when window is moved to a monitor border. Is it possible to do that with mouse between two monitors?
17:56.18nekoexmachinaWhat I mean is, two monitors : [A] left of [B]. If I pull window to rightmost part of B or leftmost part of A it would snap itself to half-a-monitor size, which is cool. Can I somehow do same on border between A and B?
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18:10.38Delvienin KDE power management, I see a new option: Hybrid suspend, Where can i find details on the function? Or can someone here answer that?
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18:17.32sparrmy fonts are too big in the plasma panel, i3 titlebars (no kwin), System Settings dialog. they are still tiny in urxvt and xterm. can anyone help me figure out which of the many font/dpi settings might cause that combination of behaviors?
18:17.40sparrI'm running a 4k display in 1920x1080 resolution
18:19.54sparrnotably, in System Settings > Displays > Scaling, the current setting is 1, but the preview for 1 is about half the size of what I am seeing in my interface, and the preview for 2 is about what I am seeing in my interface.
18:21.15nekoexmachinasparr: what xdpyinfo|grep resolution says
18:25.06sparraha! culprit was Xft.dpi x resource setting!
18:25.33sparrthanks
18:26.44nekoexmachinayw
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18:58.13greenfrogi have a problem i can't find the asswer to anywhere. when i click on the k icon the box either appears on the second monitor or is only the bottom part on the top left of the primary monitor. is there a fix for this?
18:59.24greenfrogi have fixed it once by revoving the k widget and replacing it, but it only lasted till the next reboot
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19:07.09nekoexmachinaGreenfrog: i recall having similar trouble some 10 years back with dual monitors. can't say i recall anything about solving it. :( in modern era on laptop with external screen I don't observe such behaviour.
19:09.58Greenfrogsorry to hear that but thanks for a reply
19:10.12Greenfrogits frustrating for sure
19:11.27Greenfrogi'm trying to register with kde forum to see if they have any answer
19:12.49Greenfrogive searched google till i'm "blue in the face" with on results. ppl have partial issue thats the same but not
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19:16.27Greenfrogwell i have modern monitors. 3 22" viewsonic and a 18.4" sony viao laptop
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19:17.13Greenfrogbtw the viewsonic are flat panel
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