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| 08:21.56 | jsaw | Hi all. I'm pretty annoyed with the monitor switching to the point I'd like to debug what's happening. I've already setup kdesrc-build. Can somebody tell me which software/repository is responsible for the monitor switching? Or, if this is not the right channel, where to ask? |
| 08:21.57 | jsaw | (I have a laptop+dock and a PC connected through a ATEN KVM with single DP for two monitors; when switching back to laptop, the laptop display activates and takes at least a minute to switch back to the monitors) |
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| 08:28.11 | markuswet | Antergos+KDE+OpenVPN (5.0.0) - something is fishy. I can connect to my NordVPN via openvpn in terminal but when I import the ovpn file in networkmanager and click Connect, nothing happens. Any guidance on how to debug this issue? credentials etc are correct |
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| 08:37.10 | jsaw | Sorry, just realized I should've used #kde-devel... |
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| 09:35.44 | markuswet | FWIW: fixed it by installing networkmanager-openvpn which, for some reason, is not included in an Antergos default installation. |
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| 09:54.52 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 10:38.07 | adem[m] | hi |
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| 10:44.55 | C0rn3j | very often when I CTRL+C something into the clipboard a completely empty entry gets copied instead. I can see that in the "Clipboard contents" tray app. Happens for sure on Plasma 5.55, didn't try with 5.56 yet. |
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| 10:47.23 | nshiell | Hi all, I'm using KDE Neon and having a lot of stability issues, can someone provide some help? |
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| 14:11.13 | pan93412 | Hi. What happened with lxr.kde.org? |
| 14:11.22 | pan93412 | I can't connect to lxr.kde.org. |
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| 14:12.05 | pan93412 | When I ping `lxr.kde.org`, ping returns a error message like "Destination Host Unreachable" |
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| 14:14.21 | JanKusanagi | not working from here either |
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| 16:49.26 | dff | i delete all my panels |
| 16:49.32 | dff | how to i create a new one? |
| 16:50.11 | dff | deleted* |
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| 16:54.42 | tosky | dff: right click on the desktop, or click on the special menu on the top-right corner |
| 16:55.30 | dff | ah |
| 16:55.37 | dff | i had a lock on that's why i couldnt see it |
| 16:55.41 | dff | thanks tosky |
| 16:59.33 | sparr | farrow[m]: thanks. problem isn't happening right now, so I'll check EWMH next time the pager has my workspaces out of order |
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| 17:03.50 | sawyerbergeron[m | I've been looking at contributing to plasma for a while. If I want to discuss approaches to designing a new feature (something for kwin, in this instance) should I do that under the channel for that component, or is there a more general channel/place for that kind of thing? |
| 17:04.17 | rindolf | sawyerbergeron[m: hi |
| 17:05.16 | rindolf | sawyerbergeron[m: was this feature approved? |
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| 17:11.07 | sawyerbergeron[m | I have no clue, I've been wanting to create a more flexible analog gesture system into kwin but wanted to get thoughts on what people thought were good ways of approaching modelling the problem. Do features need to be approved before development begins? Where would I go to bring it up? |
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| 17:13.23 | sawyerbergeron[m | does a bug need to be created? Or do I need to make something on phabricator? |
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| 17:25.22 | JanKusanagi | sawyerbergeron[m: you'll want to go to #plasma and #kde-devel |
| 17:25.31 | JanKusanagi | this is a user support channel |
| 17:25.46 | nicofee | sawyerbergeron: you don't need some formal approval, but for larger things you want to discuss with others first so 1) it will be easier for you and 2) your work wouldn't be wasted if they don't accept it |
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| 17:37.24 | sawyerbergeron[m | Ah, ok. Thanks for the tip, I'll post in #kde-devel I guess |
| 17:38.57 | sawyerbergeron[m | @nicofee:matrix.org yeah that was mostly my thinking |
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| 17:58.11 | jack324 | Hello. Trying to find a way to disable the automatic brightness/backlight adjustment on ubuntu kde (eg brightness adjustment when going from dark to bright windows). Any idea where this is? |
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| 18:02.54 | sawyerbergeron[m | AFAIK KDE doesn't actually have anything like that, check if your monitor has dynamic contrast enabled as that could do something similar |
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| 18:08.47 | jack324 | righto. It is on a laptop (Dell XPS 10), so don't have a way of controlling it if not in kde |
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| 18:09.50 | jankusanagi_ | well, if it's a Plasma setting, it would probably be in the Power Management section of Plasma's system settings |
| 18:10.13 | jankusanagi_ | I'm not familiar with such an option in Plasma, but it might appear only on laptops... |
| 18:10.43 | nicofee | jack324: maybe in the BIOS/UEFI settings? |
| 18:13.02 | sawyerbergeron[m | huh, really odd that a laptop would have something like that |
| 18:13.15 | sawyerbergeron[m | could you try to describe what's happening in slightly more detail? I might just be misinterpreting what you're trying to say |
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| 18:16.58 | sawyerbergeron[m | xps 15 owner here...haven't seen anything like that on my machine. There's a bunch of stuff for dimming after inactivity, but none that adjusts to the brightness of the windows on screen (almost wish there was with chrome having such a bright background) |
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| 18:23.09 | jack324 | Yeah, I haven't found any settings for it in the settings. There are talks of settings in I'm presuming Gnome https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-autobrightness.html.en |
| 18:23.51 | jack324 | Will have a look in the bios to see if I can find anything |
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| 20:23.07 | zaldim[m] | Should a minimal installation on arch actually have options for network settings and backlighting? |
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| 20:25.31 | jankusanagi_ | you should probably ask on Archlinux channels... |
| 20:26.12 | sawyerbergeron[m | @zaldim:matrix.org not usually, you'd need to use something like plasma nm applet for getting any network settings (it may be labeled differently depending on your distro.) Backlighting should usually work out of the box, though. |
| 20:26.12 | sawyerbergeron[m | is this a laptop or desktop? |
| 20:26.36 | zaldim[m] | A chromebook |
| 20:27.21 | zaldim[m] | I have kde running on it, but I can't change the backlight and I can only change the volume using alsamixer |
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| 20:29.53 | sawyerbergeron[m | if I had to guess it's a driver level thing if you're running it on a chromebook |
| 20:30.25 | zaldim[m] | ok found the plasma-nm package and I'm currently installing it |
| 20:30.48 | zaldim[m] | Usually I would run wifi-menu as root before that |
| 20:34.26 | sawyerbergeron[m | you just need an applet to interface with whatever network daemon you use |
| 20:34.26 | sawyerbergeron[m | networkmanager is just the common one so plasma-nm is a safe bet by default |
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| 20:36.36 | sawyerbergeron[m | oh, wait a moment. I'm guessing you're using a custom bios? Or are you using crouton on top of the normal bios? I remember there being a lot of weirdness around that on chromebooks when I modded mine |
| 20:37.16 | zaldim[m] | I have developer mode enabled and booted it from an SD card |
| 20:37.49 | zaldim[m] | I've disabled the compositor and baloo search to make it run a little faster though |
| 20:38.43 | zaldim[m] | Plasma actually works better than lxqt here |
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| 20:40.49 | zaldim[m] | Is there any equivalent tool to use for changing the screen brightness on plasma? |
| 20:43.00 | sawyerbergeron[m | does it work in gnome or other desktop environments? If not, I'm guessing the driver that you would use to change brightness just doesn't exist at some level |
| 20:45.05 | zaldim[m] | I think I did manage to change the screen brightness on lxqt within a setting |
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| 20:47.34 | zaldim[m] | actually, there is a file within `/sys/class/backlight/backlight` . There is a file called brightness with a number saved on it and when I change the value the brightness instantly changes it |
| 20:51.59 | sawyerbergeron[m | Huh, then it's really odd that kde isn't able to detect it |
| 20:52.34 | zaldim[m] | Does kde officially support arm? |
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| 20:53.03 | sawyerbergeron[m | What shows up if you click on the battery icon? Does it show a brightness slider there? |
| 20:53.26 | zaldim[m] | There is no battery icon |
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| 20:54.12 | zaldim[m] | Except on the login screen where a battery icon is and with percentage shown next to it |
| 20:58.01 | sawyerbergeron[m | Not in the system tray? |
| 20:59.05 | zaldim[m] | nope |
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| 21:00.06 | zaldim[m] | no sound options either |
| 21:01.08 | sawyerbergeron[m | Do you have a system tray? |
| 21:02.08 | zaldim[m] | Yes, I moved it to the bottom right corner and created another panel on the left side |
| 21:03.23 | sawyerbergeron[m | If you expand the contents with the little arrow does it show up there? |
| 21:04.07 | zaldim[m] | It only shows "Notifications" |
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| 21:10.31 | zaldim[m] | Actually, I have to go now |
| 21:10.37 | zaldim[m] | Thanks for the help here |
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| 22:21.58 | caffilhobr[m] | https://debianopen.wordpress.com/2019/03/12/lancamento-plasma-5-15-3/ |
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| 22:35.04 | David[m] | I remember stumbling upon the blog of the guy that does the plasma default background and other design/usability related improvements |
| 22:35.21 | David[m] | I have no references now, does anyone have a name or link? |
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| 22:37.08 | zinjanthr0pus | Is it possible it's this guy: https://pointieststick.com/ ? |
| 22:37.18 | zinjanthr0pus | David[m] |
| 22:37.52 | David[m] | I don't think so |
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| 22:38.02 | zinjanthr0pus | Ah. Then I don't know |
| 22:39.24 | zinjanthr0pus | Unless it's this guy: https://kver.wordpress.com |
| 22:39.39 | zinjanthr0pus | David[m] |
| 22:40.16 | David[m] | Yes!! |
| 22:40.27 | David[m] | Thank you very much |
| 22:40.33 | zinjanthr0pus | No problem! |
| 22:41.00 | zinjanthr0pus | Would anyone be able to help me compile QSvgStyle? |
| 22:41.43 | zinjanthr0pus | The problem I'm running into is that the instructions just say to clone the git repo, cd into it, run qmake -qt=5 and then make |
| 22:42.01 | zinjanthr0pus | but when I try to run qmake -qt=5 it wants an input file |
| 22:42.55 | zinjanthr0pus | There's not really anything in the root git folder that looks like it would be an input file |
| 22:43.10 | zinjanthr0pus | Is there some kind of qmake option that I'm missing, or something? |
| 22:43.26 | jankusanagi_ | do you have any .pro file in there? |
| 22:43.59 | jankusanagi_ | your question is probably best suited for #kde-devel btw |
| 22:44.06 | zinjanthr0pus | Yes there is one |
| 22:44.07 | David[m] | QSvgStyle.pro |
| 22:44.11 | zinjanthr0pus | Oh okay. |
| 22:44.19 | jankusanagi_ | so that's your input file |
| 22:44.33 | zinjanthr0pus | Well I thought I already tried that, but I'll see if I was missing something |
| 22:44.36 | zinjanthr0pus | Thanks! |
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| 22:46.39 | zinjanthr0pus | Just doing qmake -qt=5 QSvgStyle.pro doesn't work |
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| 22:47.03 | zinjanthr0pus | And I'm not seeing any obvious switch to specify the file |
| 22:47.37 | zinjanthr0pus | I think I'll go see if anyone in kde-devel can help |
| 22:48.12 | David[m] | <freenode_zin "Just doing qmake -qt=5 QSvgStyle"> What happens? |
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| 22:50.50 | jankusanagi_ | what do you mean "doesn't work"? |
| 22:50.51 | zinjanthr0pus | I get the help |
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| 22:51.12 | jankusanagi_ | maybe remove the "-qt=5", I doubt you need that nowadays |
| 22:51.27 | zinjanthr0pus | I'll give that a shot |
| 22:51.47 | zinjanthr0pus | Oh wow, that worked. |
| 22:51.55 | zinjanthr0pus | So simple |
| 22:52.35 | jankusanagi_ | ok, assuming you have qmake pre-configured for Qt5, which would be normal if you're not in an ancient OS, then you now have a proper Makefile |
| 22:52.35 | zinjanthr0pus | Make fails, though |
| 22:52.40 | jankusanagi_ | and 'make' should at least start |
| 22:52.45 | zinjanthr0pus | It did |
| 22:52.46 | zinjanthr0pus | Yeah |
| 22:53.35 | jankusanagi_ | in the Makefile you'll probably have many mentions of "Qt5" |
| 22:54.02 | jankusanagi_ | if you have mentions of Qt4 instead, then you'll need to do something different... but that depends on what the failure was with make |
| 22:55.18 | zinjanthr0pus | grep -i shows me no instances of 'qt5' in the makefile |
| 22:55.28 | zinjanthr0pus | and quite a few qt4 |
| 22:55.31 | zinjanthr0pus | So yeah |
| 22:55.39 | zinjanthr0pus | maybe there's another way to specify..? |
| 22:55.57 | jankusanagi_ | ok, so see if you have a "qmake-qt5" or "qt5-qmake" binary to use |
| 22:56.01 | jankusanagi_ | instead of plain "qmake" |
| 22:56.14 | zinjanthr0pus | Ooh, good thought |
| 22:56.28 | jankusanagi_ | if not, maybe the -qt=5 was correct, but you might need to add that _after_ the blahblah.pro |
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| 23:15.35 | JakeSays | has anyone recently had issues starting discover? |
| 23:15.41 | JakeSays | it started failing |
| 23:16.16 | jankusanagi_ | what "recently" is would depend on your distribution |
| 23:16.41 | JakeSays | kubuntu 18.10 |
| 23:16.54 | sawyerbergeron[4 | when did you upgrade? |
| 23:16.59 | JakeSays | i havent |
| 23:17.11 | JakeSays | this is a fresh install as of ~two weeks ago |
| 23:17.34 | sawyerbergeron[4 | have you been having the issue since install? Or did it just start? |
| 23:17.49 | JakeSays | it just started. i've used it quite a bit |
| 23:19.10 | JakeSays | just did an apt update/upgrade to see if that helps.. still crashes |
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| 23:29.40 | shadow98 | how do you set the primary monitor in kde? |
| 23:30.09 | sawyerbergeron[4 | are you on x or wayland? |
| 23:30.11 | shadow98 | https://i.imgur.com/gzV5TQa.png |
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| 23:30.51 | sawyerbergeron[4 | on wayland you don't, it doesn't have the proper concept of what a primary monitor is, at least this is what I think I remember Nate saying at one point |
| 23:31.05 | sawyerbergeron[4 | don't quote me on that, it might not have been him who said it |
| 23:31.31 | sawyerbergeron[4 | I remember they removed the ability to set it because nothing respected it |
| 23:31.53 | sawyerbergeron[4 | you set where your panels go and then you set window rules for where windows should default to open |
| 23:32.59 | shadow98 | OK...I will have to move things around. Thanks. |
| 23:33.13 | sawyerbergeron[4 | yeah, no problem |
| 23:33.28 | shadow98 | Another question is I removed the normal panel and switched to latte dock panel I added the application launcher to it. Now the Meta key will not open it anymore. |
| 23:33.36 | shadow98 | Any idea how I get that piece back? |
| 23:34.58 | sawyerbergeron[4 | no clue, I've wondered the same thing a lot of the time. What I thought they did was tie a single press of meta to alt+f1 (and that's the shortcut the default menu is set to use) but setting anything else to listen for alt+f1 doesn't trigger for me |
| 23:35.12 | sawyerbergeron[4 | they kind of integrated ksuperkey into upstream to some extent |
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| 23:36.39 | shadow98 | ahh yes i used ksuperkey before back in the day :) |
| 23:36.46 | shadow98 | I tried the alt+f1 thing |
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| 23:43.17 | JakeSays | not having discover sucks way bad |
| 23:44.00 | mca_gif | shadow98: I've used Alt+F1 with lattedock, but I had to manually remove an errant Alt+F1 shortcut manually from $HOME/.config/kglobalshortcutsrc first. |
| 23:45.03 | shadow98 | Well Latte Dock doesn't appear to let you move the screens that it exist on. So I found out that there is a primary display setting still. See Image: https://i.imgur.com/vmMmEvA.png |
| 23:45.07 | mca_gif | Do a quick scan of the file and ensure that the only thing mapped to Alt+F1 is "activate widget 8=Alt+F1,none,Activate Application Launcher Widget" in the "[lattedock]" section |
| 23:45.15 | sawyerbergeron[4 | mca_gif: and that worked for you? I'll have to try again because that would be super convenient |
| 23:45.49 | shadow98 | yeah i am gonna stry it now. |
| 23:46.05 | sawyerbergeron[4 | shadow98: huh, don't think I have that on my laptop running wayland, I do remember it from x though |
| 23:46.16 | sawyerbergeron[4 | not going to be around an external monitor to test until tomorrow |
| 23:46.19 | JakeSays | any clue what this means? "invalid kns backend! "/etc/xdg/servicemenu.knsrc" because: "Config group not found! Check your KNS3 installation."" |
| 23:46.32 | mca_gif | Yeah, multiple times when switching out different panels and trying to get layouts right I would have to go into kglobalshortcutsrc and delete all shortcuts for Alt+F1, then go back through the UI and configure them again |
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| 23:49.29 | shadow98 | this is what it is currently set to. activate widget 77=Alt+F1,none,Activate Application Launcher Widget |
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| 23:51.18 | mca_gif | shadow98: And it isn't mapped anywhere else? The "77" part could be incorrectly matched to the actual widget button you've currently got |
| 23:51.40 | mca_gif | Thats what would typically happen with me, I'd remove and add the app widget, so it would get a new number. |
| 23:52.05 | mca_gif | If it doesn't work, then I'm stumped and good luck |
| 23:52.22 | shadow98 | Once you remove it do you have to relaunch the desktop? |
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| 23:52.59 | sawyerbergeron[4 | I'll have to try that after I finish building nheko... |
| 23:53.08 | mca_gif | shadow98: I don't think remember having to reload anything. Delete, save, reassign |
| 23:53.39 | shadow98 | it still shows assigned in the application laucher. |
| 23:53.50 | shadow98 | brb...gonna reload the DE. |
| 23:54.06 | sawyerbergeron[4 | you should be able to just run like a kwin --replace command |
| 23:54.11 | sawyerbergeron[4 | rather than fully restarting |
| 23:54.12 | sawyerbergeron[4 | but maybe not |
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| 23:56.04 | shadow98 | yakuake - anyone know how to stop it from dropping down when you reboot or logout and back in? |
| 23:58.16 | mca_gif | Isn't that just unchecking "Open window after program start" under "Behavior" in Configure? |
| 23:58.22 | shadow98 | so logging out and back in did not help. |
| 23:58.42 | sawyerbergeron[4 | btw how much does everyone care about touchpad gestures? I'm trying to figure out if I should spend more time making the blur effect cheaper or trying to make touchpad gestures configurable on wayland, but I'm running into decision paralysis between the two of them |
| 23:58.49 | mca_gif | shadow98: bummer. I know the pain. Maybe grep for all the "Alt+F1" |
| 23:59.24 | shadow98 | Open window after program start is not checked for me. |
| 23:59.54 | mca_gif | You're getting all of the fun problems today then. |
