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| 01:28.08 | maxxe | why does certain names end with '-M'? |
| 01:29.34 | JanKusanagi | people who are here via "Matrix" |
| 01:29.44 | JanKusanagi | some have -M, some [m] |
| 01:30.00 | maxxe | matrix, what's that? (except for a movie) |
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| 01:30.22 | JanKusanagi | a reinvented wheel xD |
| 01:31.45 | JanKusanagi | https://dot.kde.org/2019/02/20/kde-adding-matrix-its-im-framework |
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| 01:32.08 | maxxe | aha |
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| 01:32.41 | maxxe | I'm on swirc :) my own little irc client that only I use :) |
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| 01:50.36 | maxxe | I do all the testing myself. Think I'm done analyzing now. I joined some big channels while I'm currently running it with Valgrind. |
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| 03:05.16 | kinesis | KDE is a slick MAc replacement OS |
| 03:05.29 | kinesis | i got locked out of windows, now am a linux refugee |
| 03:05.48 | kinesis | but seeing as I wanted to get a Mac initially, I am not disappointed with this model computer or the OS |
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| 03:08.27 | JanKusanagi | Plasma rox =) |
| 03:08.34 | kinesis | shifting terminals could use a fade effect though |
| 03:08.44 | kinesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.48 | kinesis | Yeah |
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| 03:09.04 | kinesis | I waited for years to get transparency in a terminal without GNome Term |
| 03:09.10 | kinesis | my older laptops couldn't do it |
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| 04:41.07 | kinesis | how do i make Winkey + L lock the KDE? |
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| 04:44.39 | trilantis | kinesis: open system settings, select desktop behavior, and then screen locking. |
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| 04:54.24 | kinesis | can one make the screen dim when I lock the desktop |
| 04:54.27 | kinesis | if it is inactive |
| 05:07.18 | trilantis | it can definitely turn off your display (that's under power settings), but dimming I'm not so sure about... |
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| 05:10.31 | kode54 | Yeah, auto power off is dead simple when locking under kde, just have to look up the magic xset command line to add to the lock events under notifications |
| 05:10.55 | kode54 | because powering displays off on lock by default would be too much to ask |
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| 05:19.48 | Greenfrog | i have some desktop garbage that appeared that i cant delete |
| 05:20.06 | Greenfrog | 2 yellow small squares |
| 05:20.56 | Greenfrog | and a much larger white square that i can type text into that wont go away even with a cold boot it comes back |
| 05:23.40 | Greenfrog | when i left click on the left yellow square a vertical rectangle comes up with the words in it top to bottom why isnt vani usr all my |
| 05:26.42 | Greenfrog | if i right click i get a list of colors white red black orange yellow green blue pink translucent notes settings remove this notes... i have never used notes dont know what its for |
| 05:28.31 | Greenfrog | apparently they all have something to do with notes |
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| 06:35.05 | valorie | hello, I have a problem: kio_http is filling my $HOME! |
| 06:35.45 | valorie | I've moved everything I can think of to my data disk, but in 5 minutes or less it's completely full again |
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| 06:36.17 | valorie | what is kio_http and why is the cache file growing out of control? |
| 06:36.30 | valorie | I shut down the browser |
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| 06:44.09 | valorie | hmm, nobody helpful online here now? |
| 06:44.13 | valorie | :( |
| 06:44.19 | valorie | usually I'm the helpful one |
| 06:46.22 | Blackbeard-M | valorie: hi |
| 06:46.29 | Blackbeard-M | I can try to help |
| 06:47.03 | valorie | do you know what that cache file is and why it's growing? |
| 06:47.08 | valorie | hi |
| 06:47.40 | valorie | I've moved everything; there is nothing left to move out of ~/ |
| 06:48.06 | valorie | I'm on the travel laptop so as little as possible is running |
| 06:48.24 | valorie | since there is literally 0 B left in home |
| 06:48.35 | Blackbeard-M | valorie: what kde application are you using that uses http? |
| 06:48.44 | valorie | nothing! |
| 06:48.52 | valorie | I closed the browser an hour ago! |
| 06:49.06 | valorie | closed konversation since I log |
| 06:49.06 | Blackbeard-M | konkeror? |
| 06:49.22 | Blackbeard-M | akonady? |
| 06:49.28 | valorie | I think it's installed perhaps but I've not run it |
| 06:49.40 | valorie | I don't use kmail so no akonadi |
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| 06:51.18 | j605 | maybe try lsof to find what is using the file |
| 06:51.34 | valorie | I did `sudo find /home -type d -size +1000000c` |
| 06:51.54 | Blackbeard-M | valorie: this is an old thread but might be helpful |
| 06:52.00 | valorie | and /home/valorie/.cache/kio_http is at the top |
| 06:52.06 | Blackbeard-M | I am on mobile right now |
| 06:52.19 | Blackbeard-M | I was ready to sleep |
| 06:52.27 | Blackbeard-M | Ubuntu Forums |
| 06:52.28 | Blackbeard-M | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=962982 |
| 06:52.49 | j605 | never noticed this but, â635M /home/jagan/.cache/kio_http/â |
| 06:53.48 | kinesis | when I init Xorg I don't get any screen, it is just black.. How do i fix this |
| 06:54.15 | Blackbeard-M | valorie: what happens if you delete it |
| 06:54.29 | valorie | I couldn't delete the files themselves |
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| 06:54.51 | valorie | I could try sudo rm -rf folder |
| 06:55.32 | valorie | lsof does mention cache cleaner |
| 06:55.44 | valorie | but my god, it's doing the opposite |
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| 06:55.53 | valorie | filling the whole disk with crap |
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| 06:57.40 | valorie | looks like kcontrol no longer exists |
| 06:57.52 | valorie | I wonder how to stop this process |
| 06:58.03 | Blackbeard-M | valorie: if it is in your home you can remove it without sudo |
| 06:58.10 | Blackbeard-M | yes apparently it is safe to remove that cache |
| 06:58.13 | Blackbeard-M | What is kio_http_cache_cleaner ? - kde - Fedora Mailing-Lists |
| 06:58.14 | Blackbeard-M | https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kde@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AJA72SAEH6DYSHRZZYQRW6X7NR7Z2LON/ |
| 07:03.09 | kinesis | I don't see a password input screen when I startkde |
| 07:03.13 | kinesis | just a black screen |
| 07:05.01 | valorie | Blackbeard-M: thanks, it is removed |
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| 07:05.15 | valorie | that kio_http process is a menace |
| 07:05.46 | j605 | maybe there was a bug |
| 07:05.52 | valorie | ok, gonna shut this little laptop down and try my main one again, thanks again! |
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| 07:06.08 | j605 | my cache folder was 600M and I had never deleted it. So not that bloated :) |
| 07:07.30 | pingufan | Hello. Can somebody, please, tell me how to configure the keyboard on Plasma5? I have a system wide keyboard setting for "German with dead keys". I want to assign the compose key to either the right windows key or the button between right Windows key and right Ctrl. |
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| 07:10.25 | Blackbeard-M | valorie: glad it worked |
| 07:10.29 | Blackbeard-M | :) |
| 07:10.58 | Blackbeard-M | kinesis: hi, did you change the SDD theme,? |
| 07:11.06 | Blackbeard-M | pingufan: hi |
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| 07:11.44 | Blackbeard-M | pingufan: if you go to the window where you changed the layout |
| 07:11.48 | Blackbeard-M | there is a tab there |
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| 07:11.54 | Blackbeard-M | to configure those options |
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| 07:12.48 | valorie | 15.6 MiB free |
| 07:12.58 | pingufan | This is in KDE settings, or is this in Linux general settings? |
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| 07:13.50 | Blackbeard-M | pingufan: look here |
| 07:14.03 | Blackbeard-M | Enable Keyboards InKDE |
| 07:14.04 | Blackbeard-M | http://divvun.no/keyboards/userdocs/linux/EnableKeyboardsInKDE.html |
| 07:14.25 | Blackbeard-M | read after 'Adding more keyboard layouts' |
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| 07:15.18 | kinesis | SDD theme? |
| 07:15.24 | kinesis | I added a user |
| 07:15.29 | kinesis | I was using root, which i hear is bad |
| 07:15.37 | kinesis | I'm in as my user, he has plugdev and wheel groups |
| 07:15.47 | kinesis | i'll change the theme and see if it loads |
| 07:15.55 | kinesis | Also I don't see my NetworkManager |
| 07:16.56 | Blackbeard-M | kinesis: what distro are you using, |
| 07:17.03 | kinesis | Gentoo |
| 07:17.08 | kinesis | I changed the theme for splash |
| 07:17.10 | kinesis | brb |
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| 07:17.42 | Blackbeard-M | kinesis: I meant SSD |
| 07:18.43 | kinesis | SSD? |
| 07:19.14 | kinesis | two probs now, Konsole doesn't retain its transparency on restart (i have to manually set it), and the screen starts black |
| 07:20.33 | kinesis | i'll re emerge kde. |
| 07:20.44 | Blackbeard-M | kinesis: you are using gentoo? |
| 07:21.03 | Blackbeard-M | SSD is the login manager |
| 07:21.08 | kinesis | Konsole was started before desktop effects were enebaled. |
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| 07:21.16 | kinesis | OK |
| 07:21.19 | kinesis | I changed it just now |
| 07:21.19 | Blackbeard-M | if you changed SDD theme |
| 07:21.27 | kinesis | I'm on as my user now, not root anymore |
| 07:21.29 | Blackbeard-M | then that's why the login won't show anything |
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| 07:21.31 | kinesis | but it should lock the screen |
| 07:21.52 | kinesis | yes screen lock works |
| 07:21.58 | Blackbeard-M | kinesis: where you using plasma as root,? |
| 07:22.03 | kinesis | yes |
| 07:22.21 | Blackbeard-M | it's not good to use X as root |
| 07:22.26 | kinesis | My screen locks OK |
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| 07:22.43 | kinesis | it should just spawn my desktop as it was before i rebooted |
| 07:22.55 | Blackbeard-M | Gentoo is a nice experience because it will force you to learn |
| 07:22.58 | kinesis | if I ctrl + alt + fX and back to the framebuffer, it shows stuff |
| 07:23.01 | kinesis | Yeah |
| 07:23.11 | kinesis | I can get KDE to sh ow by changing to a getty |
| 07:23.12 | Blackbeard-M | but |
| 07:23.23 | Blackbeard-M | you will have to fix a lot of stuff |
| 07:24.13 | kinesis | im going to re emerge konsole |
| 07:24.15 | kinesis | brb |
| 07:25.13 | pingufan | I am on openSUSE Leap 15.0 btw. I checked the box in "Position of Compose Key" -> "Right Windows Key". Then I click "Accept". When I press now the right Windows button, still the main KDE menu pops up |
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| 07:32.22 | Blackbeard-M | pingufan: hit apply and accept |
| 07:35.20 | pingufan | Do I need to keep the compose key pressed while entering the partial characters? |
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| 07:37.51 | pingufan | Found something on youtube there he used right alt as compose key. And he had to keep it pressed. I remember that older KDE had different behavior. |
| 07:38.56 | pingufan | Btw, what is the name of the key between <right window key> and <right control key> ? The icon with a list and arrow. |
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| 07:39.20 | pingufan | This is the most useless button at all. |
| 07:41.32 | asturm | it's usually a context menu button |
| 07:42.04 | pingufan | So in meaning of a mouse-rightclick? |
| 07:42.20 | asturm | yes |
| 07:42.35 | pingufan | Then it is really useless and best for the compose key. :) |
| 07:43.00 | asturm | Blackbeard-M: Plasma on Gentoo is a straightforward experience, if you follow the wiki |
| 07:43.10 | pingufan | But how is it named in keyboard settings of plasma (to assign the compose key to it) |
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| 07:47.50 | pingufan | Well it works somehow. Thank you for your help. |
| 07:50.47 | pingufan | I want to report a problem with Plasma5. I use ISO-8859-1(5) as system wide setting. In Plasma5 I can navigate from inside Dolphin to files/folders with German Umlauts (i.e. "Rübe") without any problem. But when such file/folder is laying on the desktop, I get an error when I try to click it. |
| 07:51.28 | pingufan | Definitely a bug in Plasma5. If it would have other reasons, it also wouldnt work from Dolphin! |
| 07:51.50 | pingufan | This did work in KDE4 |
| 07:52.02 | asturm | pingufan: can you copy/paste files with German umlauts in dolphin? |
| 07:53.23 | pingufan | Inside Dolphin I han perfectly copy the file. |
| 07:53.30 | asturm | ah, you're using openSUSE Leap. so you have the same system configuration issue as I have seen there, really annoying. no issue like that on my Gentoo systems, so it is not a Plasma problem |
| 07:54.02 | pingufan | I can also copy from inside Dolphin to the Desktop. Filename correctly appears. |
| 07:54.26 | pingufan | But then I cannot open that file on desktop. |
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| 07:55.07 | pingufan | I get the message "File or directory does not exist". When I rename it (this funnily works), I can open it. |
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| 07:56.09 | asturm | confirming this issue on my opensuse TW laptop |
| 07:57.00 | pingufan | With German Umlaut issues only on desktop? |
| 07:57.53 | asturm | yes. but again, no problem on my Gentoo desktop |
| 07:58.12 | pingufan | So this is caused by underlaying openSUSE Leap OS. |
| 07:58.21 | asturm | most likely |
| 07:58.46 | pingufan | This helps a lot, then the bug has to be reported at suse. |
| 07:58.47 | akarshanbiswas | Hi. I have a question, Does konsole supports GPU accelerated text rendering? |
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| 08:00.45 | EugenA | how can I change the appearance of minimized windows in taskbar? |
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| 08:32.53 | asturm | pingufan: feel free to ping me with a link to your opensuse report |
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| 08:48.04 | pingufan | asturm: I try since 1/2 hour to enter the bug report. I am logged in at bugzilla.opensuse.org, but I stuck. |
| 08:49.25 | pingufan | Ah! I think I found the entrance... |
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| 09:09.00 | pingufan | asturm: Here the link to my report: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134688 |
| 09:12.03 | asturm | great |
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| 09:12.58 | pingufan | asturm: I also have another nasty effect in Leap 15.0's Plasma. Can you confirm that also on your side? I open a Konsole Window. (again, it is configured to use iso-8859-1 as encoding, but this is for sure not relevant). In this window I do a SSH to my server and work on it. Absolutely no problem until here. But when closing the connection/Konsole, Plasma reports a crash in kdeinit. |
| 09:14.50 | asturm | pingufan: no problem here, but I'm on opensuse TW |
| 09:15.21 | pingufan | I will never again touch this TW. I feel like a beta tester with it. |
| 09:15.31 | asturm | but also no problem on leap 15, thinking about it |
| 09:16.04 | pingufan | Booting latest TW on the same machine needed literally 3 minutes(!), while Leap 15.0 boots up in 30 seconds. |
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| 09:16.52 | pingufan | We are talking of a AMD64 X6 machine with 32 GB RAM and software-RAID. So this is a powerful machine, no toy. |
| 09:18.24 | asturm | I'm using it because I am used to rolling release, and this laptop is passively cooled / me too lazy to create my own binpkg server yet |
| 09:18.51 | asturm | but that umlaut issue is really annoying |
| 09:19.04 | asturm | so thanks for filing it |
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| 09:51.17 | ntz | hello ppl |
| 09:51.56 | ntz | not very smart question, but lemme shoot: what is preffered way for user without root to disable kdeconnect on startup ? |
| 09:52.30 | ntz | it's in /etc/xdg/autostart but not in kde systemsettings, so the only way I realize would be to add into systemsettings -> autostart -> Script File -> stop-kdeconnect |
| 09:52.36 | ntz | script that will do just something like: sleep 15; kquitapp5 kdeconnect |
| 09:53.12 | ntz | I've been asked for this ... no idea howto do it without root properly, normally I'd move from /etc/xdg/autostart/kdeconnect.desktop somewhere away |
| 09:54.18 | JanKusanagi | you could just disable the kdeconnect service in Plasma's system settings â background services |
| 09:54.43 | ntz | I don't see it there ... that's the problem |
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| 09:55.51 | ntz | JanKusanagi: https://infophagia.com/ntz/paste/Screenshot_20190510_115530.png |
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| 09:58.48 | JanKusanagi | hm... it used to be there IIRC... |
| 09:59.01 | JanKusanagi | I haven't had that installed in a while, I guess the way it works has changed since then |
| 10:01.32 | ntz | seems like |
| 10:02.20 | ntz | and there's even not a binding on system tray .. eg if you disable that in tray, it's only display so it can run and listen but the icon is not displayed in tray |
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| 10:24.14 | tinti | hi. any suggestions about this glitch? http://ge.tt/3OQ8E2w2 - using nouveau, on mbpr 15" late 2013, only using dual display, login logout fixes, switch vty does not, playing a video on youtube/firefox make it happens but also make it goes away |
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| 11:22.42 | Daisae | Something is restarting user pulseaudio by systemD. I guess it is KDE, because I shut down everything else I know which would use pulseaudio. How do I stop KDE from automatically restarting pulse? |
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| 11:36.35 | Daisae | I have returned. Computer freeze. |
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| 11:45.53 | depesz | hi. when I press keys that generate volumeup/volumedown "events" i get this clicking noise from speakers. is there any way I could disable it? |
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| 11:48.02 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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| 11:48.33 | JanKusanagi | depesz: right-click the volume icon in the tray and go to its settings |
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| 11:48.50 | JanKusanagi | there, disable "volume feedback" |
| 11:49.06 | depesz | i don't have volume icon in tray |
| 11:49.25 | JanKusanagi | well, that's weird xD |
| 11:49.31 | depesz | actually, never mind. |
| 11:49.39 | depesz | i have. my eyes are clearly not working. sorry |
| 11:49.57 | JanKusanagi | =) |
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| 12:37.06 | TomyWork | where do i set the task manager (or system activity) keyboard shortcut? |
| 12:37.17 | TomyWork | default is ctrl-esc, i want to change it to ctrl-shift-esc |
| 12:38.04 | TomyWork | also, where can i reassign alt-f1 to ctrl-esc? |
| 12:38.27 | TomyWork | neither of them seems to be defined in "global shortcuts" |
| 12:40.18 | cotko-M | TomyWork: it's in system settings -> global shortcuts -> run command section |
| 12:40.30 | TomyWork | nope |
| 12:40.51 | TomyWork | that only has the "run command" thingy (krunner) |
| 12:41.29 | TomyWork | and a bad idea called "run command on clipboard contents" |
| 12:41.47 | TomyWork | (which, if you ask me, should never be assigned by default) |
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| 12:41.57 | cotko-M | oh damn I misread your question :) |
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| 12:44.40 | TomyWork | found #2 |
| 12:44.54 | TomyWork | under "Activity switching" |
| 12:45.38 | TomyWork | and the other one is under KDE daemon |
| 12:45.43 | TomyWork | and the search feature is broken |
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| 12:52.40 | BluesKaj | i use the activity pager in the panel combined with quicklaunch and different apps assigned to each activity |
| 12:53.12 | BluesKaj | rather than KB shortcuts which are a pita to set up |
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| 13:22.23 | olkji | whatis the difference between kde and plasma? |
| 13:22.45 | jankusanagi_ | KDE is the people creating the Plasma desktop |
| 13:22.55 | jankusanagi_ | KDE = community; Plasma = desktop environment |
| 13:23.02 | jankusanagi_ | it's like "Mozilla Firefox" |
| 13:24.00 | olkji | was it plasma too in kde 4? |
| 13:24.12 | jankusanagi_ | yes |
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| 13:33.41 | Daisae | Where does one change the color of scroll bars? |
| 13:34.05 | Daisae | Without changing a whole theme? |
| 13:34.46 | jankusanagi_ | you can edit the color scheme to change individual colors, but scrollbars basically use the color used for buttons, AFAIK |
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| 13:38.36 | Daisae | jankusanagi_: Thanks, but it is not a button color. |
| 13:39.39 | jankusanagi_ | well, with Oxygen it is |
| 13:39.50 | jankusanagi_ | with other Qt-widget themes it might be different |
| 13:40.15 | jankusanagi_ | some Qt-widget themes might even allow special tuning |
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| 13:41.19 | asturm | pingufan: it may be good to point out that it is not a plasma error, at least when I compare it with my homegrown Gentoo setup |
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| 13:41.55 | Wilmpe | How can I configure a different shortcut than `Alt+Space` for krunner? |
| 13:42.03 | asturm | I notice that my env does not contain any LC_ or LANGUAGE strings in opensuse |
| 13:42.27 | jankusanagi_ | Wilmpe: go to Plasma's system settings, search for Global Shortcuts |
| 13:42.41 | Daisae | I am using Breeze |
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| 13:42.54 | Wilmpe | jankusanagi_: I was looking there but couldnât find it. |
| 13:43.06 | jankusanagi_ | it's under the "Run Command" category |
| 13:43.20 | Wilmpe | jankusanagi_: oki thx, found it now |
| 13:43.26 | jankusanagi_ | yw |
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| 13:46.47 | Daisae | jankusanagi_: With Oxygen widgets, the button color also does not set the scroll bar color. |
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| 13:51.49 | jankusanagi_ | sure it does |
| 13:52.05 | jankusanagi_ | to be clear, the button color is the same as the thing you drag |
| 13:52.12 | jankusanagi_ | _not_ the background of the scrollbar |
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| 13:54.47 | jankusanagi_ | and the background of the scrollbar is a slightly shaded version of the "Window background" color |
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| 14:09.00 | SASDOE | yoyo, I have this problem with the kde5 pannel whereby, only in multi-mon setup, panel popups/tooltips will appear in the middle of the screen and not besides the panel item I clicked |
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| 14:31.25 | TomyWork | jankusanagi_, i thought KDE stands for K desktop environment |
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| 14:36.56 | cb400f | it used to... now it's just a name, and it's much more than a DE... also applications and libs/frameworks |
| 14:37.42 | asturm | it's a community |
| 14:37.55 | asturm | which is the point |
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| 14:40.11 | jankusanagi_ | looks like TomyWork missed your replies :D |
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| 15:02.11 | kinesis | anything I can do about my regular user's KDE starting with a pitch black screen? |
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| 15:12.09 | jankusanagi_ | so you get to a login screen, but Plasma doesn't start for a certain user? |
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| 15:13.12 | jankusanagi_ | do you know if launching Krunner (by default via alt+space or alt+f2) works? |
| 15:13.47 | kinesis | no |
| 15:13.55 | kinesis | I get a black screen, the environment is loaded but I cannot see it |
| 15:14.01 | kinesis | if i move the mouse around it will turn into a cursor |
| 15:14.21 | jankusanagi_ | and launching KRunner doesn't work? |
| 15:14.24 | kinesis | to get the environment to become visible i have to CTRL + ALT + FX to another getty, then ALT + F1 |
| 15:14.28 | kinesis | I'll launch krunner |
| 15:14.35 | kinesis | Can i put that in .xinitrc? |
| 15:14.54 | jankusanagi_ | krunner is supposed to already be running |
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| 15:15.07 | jankusanagi_ | with the invocation via keyboard it should become visible at the top |
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| 15:15.10 | kinesis | ok yeah I think the environment is loaded it is just a bug or something, the screen is black |
| 15:15.16 | kinesis | ill alt + f2 |
| 15:15.20 | jankusanagi_ | but considering the "fix" you mention, sounds like problems with compositing |
| 15:15.34 | jankusanagi_ | try disabling compositing and rebooting |
| 15:15.43 | kinesis | ok ill google that |
| 15:15.57 | kinesis | is that desirable though? i like the effects |
| 15:16.03 | kinesis | re-enable it then? |
| 15:16.20 | jankusanagi_ | it's meant as a test |
| 15:16.43 | kinesis | very well i am installing pulseaudio after it is done i will try |
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| 15:20.54 | kinesis | yes disabling compositor worked |
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| 15:21.47 | jankusanagi_ | ok, then if you reenable it and reboot, assuming you get to the same problem, you can try just toggling it off-on via the default alt+shift+f12 shortcut |
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| 15:22.22 | jankusanagi_ | but anyway, this is a graphics drivers / OpenGL / Mesa problem |
| 15:22.40 | jankusanagi_ | what's your graphics card brand? |
| 15:22.58 | kinesis | wow i reenabled it and it works now |
| 15:23.17 | kinesis | awesome. i'm in gentoo with a regular user (non root) |
| 15:23.36 | jankusanagi_ | well, regular user is _assumed_ xD |
| 15:23.48 | kinesis | Yeah Wireless works, reboot works |
| 15:24.53 | kinesis | what is the difference OpenGL 3.1 vs 2.0 |
| 15:27.28 | jankusanagi_ | I think that question answers itself xD |
| 15:28.29 | kinesis | when i move my mouse over menus in Konsole the highlight blurs over choices |
| 15:29.03 | kinesis | not blurs, but umm |
| 15:29.29 | kinesis | test |
| 15:30.11 | kinesis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:32.33 | kinesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:32.45 | kinesis | wtf :( |
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| 15:35.51 | kinesis | my mouseover effect in menus is bugged |
| 15:36.24 | kinesis | mty konsole is messed up too |
| 15:36.44 | jankusanagi_ | you clearly have graphics drivers issues |
| 15:37.34 | kinesis | ij |
| 15:41.20 | kinesis | how would you resolve them |
| 15:42.00 | jankusanagi_ | â > what's your graphics card brand? |
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| 15:42.35 | kinesis | Intel |
| 15:42.58 | jankusanagi_ | Xorg using the Intel DDX or modesetting? |
| 15:43.15 | kinesis | sec |
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| 15:44.28 | kinesis | DRI but EE unable to load module i965 |
| 15:44.59 | kinesis | yeah modesettting driver i915 |
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| 15:49.16 | jankusanagi_ | well, using modesetting instead of the Intel DDX is already the recommended way nowadays |
| 15:49.31 | jankusanagi_ | unless your chipset is quite old, I'd imagine |
| 15:51.25 | jankusanagi_ | worst-case scenario, you can still have most effects using the Xrender backend |
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| 15:52.28 | jankusanagi_ | something else to check and try, whether Xorg is using DRI2 or DRI3 |
| 15:52.41 | jankusanagi_ | and you know, switch to whatever the other one is |
| 15:53.32 | kinesis | test |
| 15:53.36 | kinesis | Ok whew works now |
| 15:54.13 | kinesis | I had to add a 20-modesetting.conf per the Gentoo guide. |
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| 16:04.13 | Joerg-Neo900 | c&p defect, alt+F2 takes no kbd input. What's going on, or rather: what broke? |
| 16:04.48 | Joerg-Neo900 | already restarted plasmo, to no effect |
| 16:04.53 | Joerg-Neo900 | plasma* |
| 16:06.33 | jankusanagi_ | not that I understand any of that â ... but the thing that appears via alt+F2 is KRunner, separate thing from plasmashell |
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| 16:22.53 | kinesis | my kde Konsole stops being transparent when I log out and log back in |
| 16:23.07 | kinesis | i guess the effects load after Konsole starts? How do I fix that/ |
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| 16:40.02 | kinesis | ok so transparency doesn't work correctly in Konsole if that's what I'm left with :/C |
| 16:47.25 | kinesis | plasma is amazing. I will keep trying to figure out how to get Konsole transparent.. |
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| 16:49.53 | akarshanbiswas | Plasma is indeed amazing but I'm waiting for this since years! https://github.com/sddm/sddm/pull/673 |
| 16:51.01 | kinesis | yeah I get transparency I was waiting for years for, but it doesn't initially start in Konsole. |
| 16:52.52 | akarshanbiswas | thinks Xorg shouldn't run as root. It's extremely risky. |
| 16:53.03 | kinesis | I made a regular user |
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| 16:53.13 | kinesis | i had problems but resolved all but the konsole one |
| 16:55.15 | akarshanbiswas | https://i.ibb.co/F4PFmRC/Screenshot-20190510-222136.png |
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| 16:57.35 | kinesis | cool |
| 16:57.42 | kinesis | my konsole has a bug i guess |
| 16:57.53 | kinesis | two bugs, actually now :) |
| 16:58.11 | kinesis | i have to Ctrl + L the ncurses is not operating correctly in my ssh session |
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| 17:28.12 | akmod | Why do my windows always appear as small as possible? |
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| 17:32.12 | jankusanagi_ | akarshanbiswas: for the record, SDDM isn't part of Plasma; it isn't even made by KDE |
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| 17:35.04 | akmod | gotcha |
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| 17:35.44 | akmod | Is everyone using SSDM? or do most prefer switching to lightdm or wayland? |
| 17:36.02 | asturm | what's wayland got to do with it |
| 17:36.24 | akmod | window managers? |
| 17:36.24 | jankusanagi_ | uses SDDM, happily |
| 17:36.32 | jankusanagi_ | and Wayland has nothing to do with this xD |
| 17:37.50 | akmod | bows head in shame |
| 17:37.54 | akmod | i'm a newb |
| 17:38.07 | trilantis | uses sddm |
| 17:38.17 | jankusanagi_ | everyone was a newbie once =) |
| 17:38.35 | asturm | indeed |
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| 17:42.25 | akmod | switched to lightdm |
| 17:42.47 | akmod | I used cinnamon for a long time and just got into kde |
| 17:42.58 | jankusanagi_ | (into Plasma :p) |
| 17:43.10 | akmod | :O |
| 17:43.11 | asturm | what's wrong with sddm? |
| 17:43.15 | akmod | what's the difference? |
| 17:43.20 | akmod | between kde and plasma |
| 17:43.25 | asturm | KDE is a community |
| 17:43.48 | akmod | sddm had issues with window-capturing in OBS-studio for me |
| 17:44.01 | asturm | erm |
| 17:44.07 | akmod | and my windows always show up as small as possible and i have to manually drag them out to a usable size |
| 17:44.17 | asturm | that's not related to SDDM at all |
| 17:44.37 | akmod | :O |
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| 17:44.43 | jankusanagi_ | not even remotely xD |
| 17:44.53 | akmod | #imanoob |
| 17:45.18 | asturm | akmod: do you enter a Plasma (X) session or a Plasma Wayland session? |
| 17:45.34 | jankusanagi_ | no idea what your issue with your windows is, since that's up to the individual programs, _but_ Plasma's windoe manager KWin can force specifig window sizes |
| 17:46.06 | akmod | jankusanagi_: that would be nice |
| 17:46.22 | akmod | So it's KWin's settings I need to poke around in |
| 17:46.42 | asturm | well usually windows open in... regular sizes |
| 17:46.49 | jankusanagi_ | just right-click the title bar of any program you want to force to a specific size |
| 17:46.51 | asturm | that need no tweaking |
| 17:47.14 | jankusanagi_ | More actions â special application settings (or window) |
| 17:47.37 | jankusanagi_ | but in my experience, most programs remember their window sizes, and restore it on next launch |
| 17:47.39 | akmod | O.o |
| 17:47.52 | akmod | I can set a minimum size for all windows |
| 17:48.04 | akmod | that's exactly what I was looking for |
| 17:48.22 | akmod | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.28 | alpha3031-M | Wayland is surprisingly stable for alpha software. The only real issue I have on it is the ocasional freeze which forces me to unraw |
| 17:48.35 | alpha3031-M | which then causes... problems |
| 17:49.09 | trilantis | Plasma's Wayland session never works right for me... |
| 17:49.26 | asturm | there is a wayland library, yes, but typically it is not the thing that is crashing if something is crashing |
| 17:49.40 | asturm | don't confuse it with xorg-server |
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| 19:13.05 | kinesis | alright Konsole shows transparency when I log in now |
| 19:13.21 | jankusanagi_ | \o/ |
| 19:13.32 | kinesis | My bluetooth mouse wasn't up and runningafter Xorg spawned startkde |
| 19:13.42 | kinesis | had to reconnect it for some reason |
| 19:14.12 | kinesis | I'm up and running with Firefox-bin too.. Youtube and sound, everything. Linux beats MacOS finally. |
| 19:14.23 | kinesis | The only thing left is my touchscreen. |
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| 19:15.20 | kinesis | Kwallet doesn't prompt me for password (it did on the root user) |
| 19:20.23 | thiago | konsole shows transparency if you start it late enough that kwin is running and the alpha channel is possible |
| 19:20.37 | thiago | if you start it as part of session restore, it starts too early and concludes your system has no support for alpha channel |
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| 19:30.25 | kinesis | ok. what about dimming the screen when i lock it and go idle? id on't want burn in |
| 19:30.32 | kinesis | Rather, not dimming, deactivating |
| 19:34.54 | jankusanagi_ | "burn in" is not a thing unless you still have a CRT xD |
| 19:35.09 | asturm | jankusanagi_: oh it is |
| 19:35.14 | jankusanagi_ | but the screen should turn off after several minutes, sure |
| 19:36.01 | kinesis | i saw burned in LCDs at the computer store |
| 19:36.08 | kinesis | was awful |
| 19:36.22 | kinesis | So is there a workaround for konsole transperancy |
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| 19:48.06 | kinesis | if dragging a window plus using the mousewheel click-left moved a window to a different desktop KDE would be even more amazing. Where can I suggest features? |
| 19:48.27 | kinesis | Also Konsole could use a tab left/right fade effect |
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| 20:12.46 | elm_ | how can I enable many virtual desktops? |
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| 20:13.59 | jankusanagi_ | right-click the pager â configure desktops |
| 20:14.39 | elm_ | the pager disappears though I have added it three times to the task bar |
| 20:15.03 | elm_ | likely because it has no virtual desktops or just one |
| 20:15.53 | elm_ | I can not configure the number of virtual desktops# |
| 20:16.11 | elm_ | it only lets me configure if I wanna see numbers in the virt desktops |
| 20:16.36 | elm_ | but I do not see any since there is only one |
| 20:17.29 | jankusanagi_ | well, if you can't access the pager, go to Plasma's system settings |
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| 20:17.36 | jankusanagi_ | and search for "virtual" there |
| 20:19.20 | elm_ | ok, that has helped |
| 20:19.34 | elm_ | can I have two rows for the virtual desktops |
| 20:19.43 | elm_ | or has that been disimplemented? |
| 20:20.21 | jankusanagi_ | yes, you can have 2 rows, that's actually quite clearly stated |
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| 20:35.10 | kinesis | is kde advanced enough to make an emoji menu pop up when I click an editbox in Firefox:) |
| 20:35.15 | kinesis | like as a developer |
| 20:35.35 | kinesis | I'd love to have Android style emoji window appear near my typing, for Twitter and Facebook especially. |
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| 20:37.33 | jankusanagi_ | I wouldn't be surprised if there were IM's for that like there are for asian input, etc |
| 20:37.39 | jankusanagi_ | at the very least, you can use KCharSelect xD |
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| 21:23.39 | elm_ | for the system load panel applet |
| 21:23.53 | elm_ | how can I activate to show all CPUs separately |
| 21:23.59 | elm_ | there is a checkbox for that |
| 21:24.05 | elm_ | but it is disabled |
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| 21:28.31 | maldoinc | Hey all, I have an issue with plasma that i've been unable to resolve for a while. When plasma is running, once I connect it to the docking station (DELL TB16 - via thunderbolt port) plasma just hangs. The only way is for me to go to a tty and kill plasma/ restart display manager. Or simply log out of plasma before docking, dock, then log in again. Anyone has some idea on how to tackle this? |
| 21:29.02 | maldoinc | Also monitor turns itself off, unless I go to said tty, when I switch back to plasma it goes off again. |
| 21:32.23 | jankusanagi_ | you could try disabling the KScreen service, maybe some of the automation has issues with your setup |
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