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00:16.30*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.16 and KDE Applications 19.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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00:16.47inkbottleIn the process of configuring KMail on a newly installed machine; an old "yahoo" address; KMail redirected me on a page "sign in with google"
00:16.58inkbottleThat was unexpected
00:18.45sarnoldheh, and just today I learned that yahoo and aol are apparently merging their email infrastructure
00:22.17inkbottlethere is that: go to kmail settings and modify your login method from "Gmail" to "Plain".
00:22.51inkbottlebut I haven't found where it is yet
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01:00.44psprintWhy oh why I don't see any emails in KMail with a properly configured account…
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02:36.18jwhvkvthdi-MI'm having a problem with multiple monitors.
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02:37.12jwhvkvthdi-MOne monitor is 1200x800 while the one I'm connecting to is 1920x1080. The monitors work fine for the most part but once I connect to the 1080p display and open a new application my cursor gets really big.
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02:38.32jwhvkvthdi-MI try to fix the problem in "Cursor Theme" and setting the size from "Resolution dependent" to 24, but the setting wont apply no matter how many times I try. It will simply go back to "Resolution dependent".
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04:25.12mozammeldoes KDE Plasma 5.16.4 option out for single click open folder ?
04:26.28mozammel#plasma
04:28.03JanKusanagiPlasma has a setting for that, yes
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04:28.33JanKusanagiin the "Workspace" section of Plasma's system settings
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04:34.16heisenberg-MI'm experiencing system freezes on my Arch + Plasma setup. The system starts to become unresponsive after few hours, every single time.
04:34.17heisenberg-MI should mention that I'm using btrfs on luks.
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04:37.52mozammel@JanKusanagi thank you so much
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05:30.00Triffid_Hunterheisenberg-M: friend of mine has some issue like that on Mint.. there's a memory leak in plasma somewhere apparently, needs to be periodically killed and restarted. Curiously, another system running Mint doesn't exhibit that so apparently it's somewhat configuration dependent
05:30.33Triffid_HunterMint's using a fairly old ver of plasma though, no issues on my gentoo box except for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=394119
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06:35.59heisenberg-MTriffid_Hunter: how do I troubleshoot this? Any ideas?
06:35.59heisenberg-MAlso, I have been using plasma on arch for past 10 months without stability issues, this only started about 2 weeks back
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06:49.40Triffid_Hunterheisenberg-M: are you sure it's plasma that's problematic, and not something else chewing all your ram?
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07:18.55dionysus69how do I restart panel section where all the system icons show up?
07:19.04dionysus69it crashed and now its not showing skype for example and others
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07:51.12heisenberg-MTriffid_Hunter: I'm sure it is not a ram issue. However, I'm not sure if it plasma or arch that is causing the problem
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08:06.02heisenberg-MTriffid_Hunter: I'm sure it's not a ram issue, but I'm not sure if it is plasma or arch that's causing the problem
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09:22.00throwthecheeseWhy can't I use the cd command when evoking Konsole?
09:22.56throwthecheeseWhen I use cd in Konsole, it works fine, but when I pass konsole -e "cd somewhere" I get "No such file or directory: cd"
09:25.33Worfthrowthecheese: i assume that is because there is no "cd" binary. It is a shell builtin ... and doesn't make sense the way you use it. But konsole --help tells me there is a --workdir parameter ...
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11:02.39BluesKajHey folks
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11:44.22throwthecheeseHow do I change the working directory for KRunner?
11:46.07throwthecheeseNevermind. bash -c "cd whatever && foo" works fine
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13:12.28nova99Hi, my distro is trisquel 8 and KDE version is 5.14. Every time I make modifications to ~/.config/kwinrc, they get replaced after a reboot.
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13:14.13nova99disappear*, sorry
13:15.24CarlSchwanDid you try to do this modification when you are not logged in plasma. It highly possible that kwin is overwrite his config when it closes itself
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13:53.41bennypr0faneHi, I need help connecting to an SFTP server with Dolphin. It works if I input the address including port directly in the navigation bar and press enter - the authentication dialog pops up and I can connect. However, I want to make a bookmark to this share in the lefthand panel which isn't working using the connection assistant or adding an entry to "external device" fails to bring up the authentication dialogue and the connection is
13:53.42bennypr0fanerefused by the server
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13:54.51bennypr0fanethis is Dolphin v 19.04.3
13:55.08bennypr0faneKDE Frameworks 5.60.0
13:55.10bennypr0faneQt 5.13.0 (kompiliert gegen 5.13.0)
13:55.11bennypr0faneDas xcb Fenstersystem
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14:11.36bennypr0faneMan, this channel... hundreds of people on it but nobody ever writes. is there a place where people are actually there?
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14:12.15jankusanagi_people might be here; doesn't mean they have answers for everything
14:12.45jankusanagi_we answer A LOT; and for free!
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14:36.38nova99No, I I'll try that now. Of course kwinrc is getting overwritten but I found no information about it on duckduckgo.
14:37.54CarlSchwanIt's the reason why it's not recommanded to edit the configs when the app is running. Most of time, the app overwrite the config when exiting
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14:59.51inkbottleEnergy Saving: dim screen; screen energy saving; suspend session: I have difficulties to understand these numbers
15:00.14inkbottlelogic would want them to be in increasing order
15:00.42inkbottlebut the interface allows the user to set them in a random order
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15:35.04kmwilHello!
15:35.36kmwilI have a question about configuration. Is there a manual on how to configure KDE, 5.XX using command line/configuration files?
15:36.08kmwilFor example I would like to change the default menu for all users to 'kicker'. Where to store the system-wide setting?
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15:37.32kmwilI found in my .config something like this: "plugin=org.kde.plasma.kicker"
15:37.48kmwilHow and where should one put this setting to apply system-wide?
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15:39.34jankusanagi_(Plasma 5.xx)
15:39.50jankusanagi_if it's for users before creating them, you can use the /etc/skel directory
15:40.18jankusanagi_if it's for existing users, you might have luck placing the proper things in /usr/share/config/
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15:43.38kmwilIs there an actual manual? If I have to _guess_ what to put and where then KDE is really bad. I read https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Configuration_Files and this is not that helpful.
15:43.50jankusanagi_you can have a look at what Kiosk does (did?) → https://userbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction
15:44.05jankusanagi_KDE is people, your desktop environment is called Plasma
15:44.25kmwilOk, then configuring Plasma is a nightmare :)
15:45.15kmwilIs there a list of entries or things I can change with the description of what they do?
15:45.47jankusanagi_what a weird definition of nightmare...
15:45.54kmwilI'm a sysadmin.
15:45.58kmwilI have specific nighmares ;)
15:46.10jankusanagi_then you should know how to use the skel directory
15:46.58kmwilEch, what a helpful you are. I know what a skel is, I'm asking about what I can put to skel in terms of Plasma settings without guessing.
15:47.31kmwilIf, for example I'm configuring a NFS share or building a GPU cluster I have man, doc pages etc. with
15:47.43kmwildescription of what things do and why.
15:48.47kmwilAnd when I'm browsing Internet searching for this I see "do something in Plasma and look in .config what changed...". Really?
15:51.55kmwilSo, jankusanagi_, will you help me a little more beside trying teaching me what a skel is?
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16:02.15kmwilBye.
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16:16.48edencany reason my quick links are not present in the save dialogue, say in vscode? Any way I can get them to show up?
16:17.38edencdophin is selected for application dialogues I believe.
16:20.58edencokay I see firefox has it, so its application specific, is there no way to force support?
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18:48.06brli-Manyway, seems fixed for a while since last try
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