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| 01:43.21 | longus_catus | how do i get konsole to stop spltting some tabs in konsole or somethingr as |
| 01:44.04 | jankusanagi_ | ? |
| 01:44.05 | longus_catus | Sorry I was insane when I cvame here |
| 01:44.22 | longus_catus | Konsole has split a tab vertically....how do I get it un split? |
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| 01:46.35 | jankusanagi_ | modern Konsole? just exit the shell in the one "split section" you don't want |
| 01:47.05 | longus_catus | is there another way to stop it? yes, modern |
| 01:47.18 | jankusanagi_ | there's also a close button for each "split" |
| 01:47.39 | jankusanagi_ | way to stop it? just don't press the corresponding shortcut xD |
| 01:47.56 | jankusanagi_ | which is apparently ctrl+( and ctrl+) |
| 01:48.15 | longus_catus | Thanks...that made everything 5 times worse |
| 01:48.18 | jankusanagi_ | if you need to press that, you can disable those shortcuts |
| 01:48.56 | jankusanagi_ | just trying to help here... you're certainly not making it easy |
| 01:50.18 | longus_catus | I just want to unsplit it. Pressing those keys made the problems so much worse |
| 01:50.49 | jankusanagi_ | I said DON'T press xD |
| 01:50.51 | longus_catus | view->split->close ass... I mean close others |
| 01:51.21 | longus_catus | Sorry... I"m still unsane |
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| 03:08.17 | oneforall2 | https://pastebin.com/yCVWSqR2 getting this error now .. |
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| 03:47.13 | thiago | oneforall2: looks like your distro is defective. There's a /usr/lib64/libGLX_mesa.so but no libGLX in that link line. |
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| 04:13.53 | oneforall2 | thanks will check that out |
| 04:14.29 | oneforall2 | after I go get my icecap :) |
| 04:21.16 | oneforall2 | weird /usr/lib64/libGLX.so -> libGLX.so.0.0.0* |
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| 04:26.38 | thiago | the problem is probably pkg-config |
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| 04:27.30 | oneforall2 | weird checked my log last build of qt 5.13.1 befor the patch and it built and no libGLX_mesa.so in it |
| 04:28.55 | thiago | nm -D libGLX_mesa.so | grep glXDestroyContext |
| 04:28.57 | thiago | is it defined? |
| 04:29.12 | oneforall2 | or libGLX.so |
| 04:29.47 | oneforall2 | nope |
| 04:30.02 | oneforall2 | no error just back to cli |
| 04:30.39 | oneforall2 | nm -D /usr/lib64/libGLX.so | grep glXDestroyContext yes 0000000000004b90 T glXDestroyContext |
| 04:31.09 | oneforall2 | probablt was just skipping build that last time |
| 04:35.39 | oneforall2 | will install the old mess ROOT- :) and do that nm -D on it |
| 04:41.30 | oneforall2 | nope never did either .. but its wanting libGLX.so but picking the mesa one hmm |
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| 05:36.20 | oneforall2 | want some snow |
| 05:43.56 | oneforall2 | well libglvnd-1.2.0 has the glx.pc . took a look just incase and mesa to make sure it didn't have it and over write etc .. but nope |
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| 05:58.28 | oneforall2 | hmm could it be the gl.pc:Libs: -L${libdir} -lGLX_mesa |
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| 06:06.24 | oneforall2 | ah I see mesa has the gl.pc too and I would definately say I installed it after the libglvnd :) |
| 06:07.07 | thiago | yes, that gl.pc would be a problem |
| 06:08.50 | thiago | I have the same library and despite its name, libGLX_mesa appears to be a copy of libGL |
| 06:08.53 | thiago | not libGLX |
| 06:13.06 | thiago | interesting, the plugin doesn't link to libGLX only gets the symbols indirectlyi |
| 06:14.04 | thiago | ah, explanation from my system: the symbols are in libGL.so.1 from libglvnd |
| 06:14.30 | oneforall2 | yes |
| 06:14.43 | thiago | so looks like your gl.pc is failing to provide GLX |
| 06:14.56 | oneforall2 | nm -D /usr/lib64/libGLX.so | grep glXDestroyContext yes 0000000000004b90 T |
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| 06:15.43 | thiago | tested also on a system without libglvnd |
| 06:16.12 | oneforall2 | I reinstalled libglvnd and then I'll have to see why mesa bui;lt the darn gl.pc when its build to work with libglvnd.. |
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| 06:16.38 | thiago | the symbols are in libGL.so.1 too (Mesa'a copy) |
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| 06:16.51 | thiago | there's no libGLX_mesa in that system |
| 06:17.07 | thiago | pkg-config --libs gl on both systems returns simply "-lGL" |
| 06:17.18 | thiago | so, yeah, your distro messed up. Please report it. |
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| 06:17.32 | oneforall2 | mine is now :) |
| 06:17.46 | oneforall2 | I did to myself lol |
| 06:19.02 | oneforall2 | was a newer mesa might need to add another --switch or just have my build delete it :) |
| 06:19.26 | pingufan | Good morning. I updated right now my openSUSE Leap 15.0, it hot a new kernel and some other changes. Now kmail aborts starting with following error: "Could not create collection trash, resourceId: 9" |
| 06:19.48 | pingufan | This is my office PC, I cannot do my work. How can I fix this? |
| 06:22.43 | valorie | it sounds like a question for the SuSE channels |
| 06:23.41 | valorie | pingufan: there is a #opensuse-kde - seems like a good bet |
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| 06:24.01 | oneforall2 | shes building way apst that error now :) |
| 06:24.10 | oneforall2 | Thanks for the help.. |
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| 06:25.17 | pingufan | I also ask there, but actually it is kmail. :D |
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| 06:26.23 | thiago | pingufan: specifically, it's akonadi |
| 06:27.39 | pingufan | The last things I did was: I added a filter (searching for some subject with German Umlaut inside), and I did a system update. After reboot, kmail didn't start up. |
| 06:27.53 | pingufan | Can I manually delete this last filter? |
| 06:28.09 | pingufan | Only to exclude that the filter causes this problem. |
| 06:28.11 | thiago | that may be a red herering |
| 06:28.13 | thiago | herring |
| 06:28.32 | thiago | but try starting akonadiconsole. The second tab has a folder listing |
| 06:28.36 | pingufan | But I tested the filter after creating it. It worked. |
| 06:29.05 | thiago | before the upgrade? |
| 06:29.50 | pingufan | When typing "akonadiconsole" in a terminal, it is not found. |
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| 06:31.01 | pingufan | Or does kmail have some option to proceed even with an error instead of aborting? |
| 06:31.27 | thiago | see if akonadiconsole starts first |
| 06:31.41 | thiago | does akonadictl status say it's running? |
| 06:32.47 | pingufan | It sais: Akonadi Control: running AKONADI sERVER: RUNNING |
| 06:32.58 | pingufan | Oops. Capslock |
| 06:33.22 | thiago | ok, so try akonadiconsole |
| 06:34.25 | pingufan | If 'akonadiconsole' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, ...... |
| 06:35.09 | thiago | it'sn ot a typo |
| 06:35.37 | pingufan | I tried some autocompletion (typing akona<tab><tab> and get many programs listed, but no akonadiconsole. |
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| 06:37.30 | thiago | it's called "akonadiconsole" |
| 06:38.00 | pingufan | I entered now "akonadiselftest". It shows me this: MySQL-Serverprotocol contains errors |
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| 06:40.30 | pingufan | No such one is found! |
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| 06:41.59 | thiago | install it |
| 06:42.33 | pingufan | I do so already. |
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| 06:43.03 | pingufan | It started up. |
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| 06:45.17 | pingufan | Can you guide me, please? |
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| 06:46.21 | thiago | no |
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| 06:46.33 | thiago | I don't know what's wrong. You're the one with the idea of removing the search folder. |
| 06:46.58 | pingufan | I see a lot of warnings about 8-Bit characters when I mark "Trash" |
| 06:47.16 | pingufan | But I see no resource 9 at all! |
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| 06:50.26 | pingufan | I need to say, I am not familiar with debugging kmail & Co. |
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| 07:01.04 | pingufan | When manually starting akonadi with "akonadictl stop|start", I find this in its console output: Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) |
| 07:01.22 | pingufan | And this: org.kde.pim.akonadiserver: "Cannot connect to agent instance with identifier 'akonadi_akonotes_resource_4', error message: ''" |
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| 07:04.55 | nielsk | Hi. I am fairly new to KDE and I am wondering what the setting "layout" (Desktop / Folder View) in the Wallpaper-settings does? |
| 07:05.34 | thiago | the first message can be ignored |
| 07:06.03 | pingufan | This I get when I manually start kmail from console: https://pastebin.com/XBsbRchj |
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| 07:10.35 | oneforall2 | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402258 maybe this one ? |
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| 07:12.35 | pingufan | Looks very similar. |
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| 08:02.11 | pingufan | Hi. I use now Thunderbird (temporarily, until kmail is operational again). |
| 08:03.31 | pingufan | How can I keep my address book but remove all IMAP accounts from kmail? Perhaps this can solve the problems I have since my today's update of my openSuSE Leap 15.0 ? |
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| 09:58.42 | oneforall2 | https://pastebin.com/UXY1LmLJ |
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| 10:55.09 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 11:09.24 | MichaelOF | hi all.Plasma 5.12.8 on OpenSuse Leap 15.1. How do i find out which program "triggers" an unlock of the gpg keyring? After upgrading from 15.0 to 15.1 I'm getting some a little painful dialogues, no idea why |
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| 12:09.05 | pragomer | hi, can I define a shortcut to hide and show plasma's panel? |
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| 13:02.29 | JakeSays | is there a way to disable ALL kde keyboard shortcuts? |
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| 13:15.31 | Delvien_ | KDE battery widget always reports the wrong battery time left, the percentage remaining is correct. I have a bridge battery (two batteries) Any way to get the widget to report correctly |
| 13:24.12 | jankusanagi_ | reporting "time left" is in itself a fantasy xD |
| 13:25.46 | Delvien_ | Well sure, however, powertop does a damn fine job at it. For instance, right now i have 61% battery, and I have 4 hours left on battery, but the widget only shows 1:31 left. Its like its only reading one battery, not both together |
| 13:26.23 | Delvien_ | its a calculation based on predicted values, but its not showing the overall reading, its showing some erronious number pulled from the wrong thing ( i think ) |
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| 13:36.39 | pingufan | Hello, can somebody help me with kmail, please? I had a system update today (newer kernel, not much more), and now kmail does not start up any more! I always get the error "Could not create collection trash, resourceId: 9" |
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| 13:37.07 | pingufan | So I temporarily use Thunderbird, but it soes not integratze so well into KDE. |
| 13:37.26 | jankusanagi_ | (into Plasma) |
| 13:37.30 | pingufan | Akonadi seems to work fine! |
| 13:37.43 | jankusanagi_ | have you tried with a different user? |
| 13:38.06 | pingufan | Not yet. But I will try now. |
| 13:39.54 | pingufan | Back in a few minutes... |
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| 13:45.14 | pingufan | Hello. With new created user kmail works. |
| 13:46.35 | pingufan | How can I get this kmail working again? I use IMAP so this is no loss, but I need to keep my address book (also stored in akonadi) |
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| 13:50.55 | Delvien_ | kmail didnt work for me ( my work uses exchange ) :( |
| 13:51.27 | Delvien_ | I use evolution, works great, integrates well enough |
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| 14:05.24 | pingufan | How can I get kmail operational again? I hope this works without loosing my address book and calendar |
| 14:06.18 | pingufan | Please, if somebody knows, help me. |
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| 14:32.41 | JanKusanagi | IIRC, KMail had a "resources configuration" in its settings (which of course, you can't access ATM), but I think those settings could be accessed via Plasma's system settings too |
| 14:33.54 | pingufan | more weired ... It seems kaddressbook also lost its data. Sometimes I really start to hate this database crap... |
| 14:34.18 | pingufan | Single files are much better to backup and restore |
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| 14:35.16 | pingufan | At least meetings/appointments are here. |
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| 14:52.06 | pingufan | Where/how does KAddressbook store my contacts? |
| 14:54.11 | JanKusanagi | probably somewhere under ~/.local/ |
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| 15:00.13 | pingufan | There is a folder, but it is empty. :( |
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| 15:01.05 | JanKusanagi | the name might not be obvious |
| 15:01.20 | JanKusanagi | it might be one of Akonadi's files for its resources |
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| 15:02.21 | pingufan | There is a folder kaddressbook. I would store addresses there. But they was either deleted during this update, or they are stored elsewhere. Ok. I have to calm down. Tomorrow I will try to delete akonadi and start it from scratch. |
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| 15:02.51 | pingufan | I am pretty sure you are right. But then the question is: How to get all contacts out of it. |
| 15:02.52 | JanKusanagi | I suggest moving things, never deleting |
| 15:03.04 | JanKusanagi | if you DELETE there's no going back |
| 15:03.15 | pingufan | I need to go for a meeting now. Are you here tomorrow? |
| 15:03.23 | JanKusanagi | maybe |
| 15:03.34 | JanKusanagi | but I really don't know much about the topic xD |
| 15:03.39 | JanKusanagi | you might want to try #kontact |
| 15:03.54 | pingufan | Thanky for this hint. |
| 15:04.33 | Arran | Hello |
| 15:04.52 | JanKusanagi | hi o/ |
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| 15:42.58 | arran-malt | Hello |
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| 17:47.47 | ptyx-M | Hello, I'm running KDE manjaro on a 4gb ram and Core m3 cpu laptop. I love it. But it's easily overwhelmed and crashes if I open a few browser tabs (nothing crazy, 5-6). Or if I try to multitask while listening to Spotify. |
| 17:47.50 | ptyx-M | Are there any tricks I can do to avoid this? |
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| 17:55.20 | sarnold | you could try using zswap to stretch your memory a bit further https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Zswap |
| 17:57.17 | ptyx-M | Hmm never head of this before. How stable is it? |
| 17:57.18 | ptyx-M | And thanks for the suggestion |
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| 17:58.40 | SpeakerToMeat | compositing is driving me a little insane... if it's on, parts of the screen fail to redraw, like sometimes at random when I switch tabs in my browser the page wont draw, or the top half of the task bar is sheared/displaced from the bottom half... but if I turn it off (alt-shift-f12) my task bar clock shows a different/off time....... |
| 17:58.53 | SpeakerToMeat | How can I find out what's wrong and fix it? |
| 18:04.34 | sarnold | ptyx-M: normally the folks who use it have reported success; I haven't tried it myself. I skimmed ubuntu's linux bugs for zswap and only see a few issues over the years |
| 18:04.39 | sarnold | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.searchtext=zswap&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assi |
| 18:04.45 | sarnold | gnee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.upstream_target=&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_bluep |
| 18:04.51 | sarnold | rints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on |
| 18:04.51 | sarnold | HOLY wow that's an ugly url. sorry. |
| 18:05.53 | ptyx-M | lol thanks sarnold I'll have a read and experiment |
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| 20:27.28 | albongo | i want to disable the menubar by default in konsole, but when i set settings->show menubar to off this isn't preserved when i restart konsole |
| 20:27.43 | albongo | is this expected behaviour? do i need to hit ctrl+shift+m every time i start konsole? |
| 20:27.45 | albongo | # |
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| 21:43.43 | JanKusanagi | you need to go to Settings â Configure Konsole |
| 21:43.50 | JanKusanagi | the setting there is permanent |
| 21:44.03 | JanKusanagi | the other one, more casually accessible, is transient |
| 21:44.51 | JanKusanagi | albongo: â |
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| 22:41.08 | albongo | JanKusanagi: can't believe i missed that, thanks a million |
| 22:41.58 | JanKusanagi | yw =) |
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| 22:58.49 | ArgentWolf | Uh. I think I just created a KDE Talk XMPP account but I don't know the password, I middle-clicked into the "enter password" box and it didn't have a confirmation box... |
| 23:00.01 | ArgentWolf | Also, how in the world do I configure Telepathy? I can't see any main application, just a contacts list program...? |
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| 23:02.00 | ArgentWolf | And unfortunately I didn't give my email or anything, so I can't just reset it. ): |
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| 23:04.12 | JanKusanagi | KTp's accounts are configured via Plasma's system settings, IIRC |
| 23:04.34 | ArgentWolf | How do I see if there are any connection errors? I hit Configure and put in a password, and then...nothing happens. |
| 23:14.55 | ArgentWolf | Think I should send a mail to sysadmin@kde.org? |
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