IRC log for #kde on 20191026

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00:02.19t-ask-MHi, I forced a window to keep/open with size 5760x1080 so that it spans all screens. it opens on the primary screen (middle). Now I move it with shortcuts to the left screen, then it gets resized to 1920x1080. What can I do to move it around without it gets resized at all?
00:03.57t-ask-MIt seems to prioritize "fullscreen" setting when moving around. Same with Alt+Mouse movement.
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00:05.49jankusanagi_but did you set it to "Force", or to "Apply initially" or other?
00:06.44t-ask-MForce
00:06.57t-ask-MThe other settings are quite "strange"
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00:10.17t-ask-Meg. if I set "title bar" to "Apply Now" the titlebar is gone, which is fine. But then I have to open the settings and search for the window to set it to "Initial" eg. Those advanced settings are gone when right clciking the taskabr of that window.
00:10.23Windfisc1hi! some KDE programs (konsole, k3b) on my system have really tiny (unreadable) font, when and only when my TV is connected
00:11.13Windfisc1I suspect this is due to some really low DPI setting of my TV; however, xrandr reports 96 DPI for the TV as well as my normal monitor. What is KDE trying to do here, and how can I turn it off?
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00:12.17t-ask-MWindfisc1: Did you try setting DPI in Font settings?
00:13.05Windfisc1honestly, I am not using KDE-the-desktop-environment at all, but only its programs like konsole, okular. is there a way to set this on the command line?
00:13.22Windfisc1(or: what does "setting the DPI in the font settings" do? how do I replicate what it does)
00:19.47t-ask-MWell, it overwrites the determined DPI value with the one you set manually. How to set it via commandline someone else might know.
00:20.37Windfisc1how does KDE determine the DPI? I mean, it uses a different DPI value than what xrandr reports (xrandr reports 96)
00:23.37Windfisc1export QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0 # solves the problem.
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00:28.27t-ask-Mjankusanagi_: Well I forced size, position and titlebar now. Still the same effect. If I movve the window around it snaps to one displays borders.  "Window to next screen" shortcut seems to ignore my "forced" window rules...
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00:30.39jankusanagi_do you have either the "Maximize" or "Tile" options enabled in the "Screen Edges" section of Plasma's system settings?
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00:33.24t-ask-MYes both are set... But I think I found a solution
00:33.53t-ask-MI forced the window to "No fullscreen"
00:36.51jankusanagi_well, my point was disabling those, but if that solves it... =)
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00:40.04t-ask-Mjankusanagi_: I think it is better this way, as I want all other windows behave like intended.
00:40.14jankusanagi_cool
00:40.40t-ask-MIt is just a bit sad, that I can't access the "Configure Special Window Settings" from the taskbar anymore, which would help in case a window has no border/titlebar or a Gnome window.
00:42.09jankusanagi_from the taskbar? the task manager in the panel? that's never been accessible from that
00:42.20jankusanagi_but if you want KWin's menu, just press alt+f3
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00:56.50t-ask-Mjankusanagi_: oh I didn't know this shotcut, thanks.
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02:12.57t-ask-MI have a 5760x1080 wallpaper. How can I apply this as desktop wallpaper on tripple head system?
02:15.08sarnoldI'll admit it's been a while since I've used kde, but I'd sort of expect something like find the image in a file browser, right click, and see if there's something in the context menu?
02:16.48t-ask-MWell, that's the obvious solution :) It is just applied to one screen not spread accross all. I mean I could split it up, but that's  abit tediuos if you have a lot of them
02:18.06sarnoldaha :D sorry for the noise then
02:23.22t-ask-MNo worries. I just thought there must be a smarter way before I start manually spliiting them up and apply them to each screen seperately :)
02:26.20sarnoldthere may be, I'm just not useful at this point, hehe
02:26.40sarnoldbtw, was this three separate X servers or xinerama or ..? it's been a while since I knew what I was doing with multihead, too :)
02:31.14t-ask-MIt is just one X server. Afaik, this is only a Plasma thing. But who knows maybe there is already a handy way which does what is needed in the background and as a result the image is spread accross all screens... Imagemagic/convert should be able to do that.
02:35.08t-ask-MThis is the command: `convert img.jpg -crop 1920x1080 img-%02d.png`
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02:41.11sarnoldt-ask-M: yeah, imagemagick *should*, but also it'd be nice if it weren't required... oh wells, time to run, have fun :)
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06:33.19over7headis there a way to make dolphin background transparent but keep fonts and icons non transparent ?
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06:33.45over7headi searched compton but im not sure if compton can do this
06:34.49over7headtransparency from plasma settings make whole dolphin window transparent including text and icons.... this is not useful
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06:37.37over7headit would be useful if kde devs integrate dolphin settings with .Xdefaults
06:38.03over7headuntil then i dont see a way to get background transparency
06:38.16over7headmaybe compton can do this"
06:38.20over7headany help"
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06:44.30IHaveTerminalAIDKvantum, my friend
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06:47.13over7headhm
06:47.16over7headkvantum
06:47.23over7headnever heard about it before
06:47.34over7headinteresting
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06:48.01over7headbut actually im not using kde, i have awesome wm with dolphine file manager
06:48.25over7headmaybe i can get and run kvantum from there, will try it
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06:59.00over7headhow kvantum works ? i just get it and go to edit "configure active theme" but it doesnt change anything
06:59.43rick_pollyset it as default in systemsettings5
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07:29.46IHaveTerminalAIDLike akava
07:30.00IHaveTerminalAIDIf you like tranaaparency
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12:52.51jason0597hi, i don't know if this is exactly kde related, but i am using kde and i think this is the most appropriate place i could find. i installed flameshot and loaded its premade shortcut file into global shortcuts in kde, but whenever i press my PrtSc key nothing happens. I have the exact same file on another computer and it works fine, does anyone have some pointers as to where i could start looking?
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12:53.37asturmjason0597: version of Plasma?
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12:54.30jason0597uhh should be latest, i'm using an up-to-date arch linux installation
12:54.38asturmdefine 'latest'
12:54.43asturmwe don't know what that is
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12:54.49asturm.x
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12:55.28BluesKajHey folks
12:56.23jason0597hi
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13:30.32madpropswhat's the name of the kde clipboard?
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13:42.41zezinho-M<SGOrava "Is there a way to hide 'file.txt"> I don't think so, without coding!
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13:44.15SGOravazezinho-M: badmouthing... why is it than set as default for kate ? it makes a mess
13:45.21SGOravaand do not say I can chane the prefix and suffix, when I try I do get a crash
13:46.29zezinho-M<SGOrava "and do not say I can chane the p"> Well, please open a bug report for your crash.
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13:49.25SGOravadoing so right now
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14:26.31JanKusanagiwhy set as default? I'd guess because having backups is *important*
14:26.43JanKusanagiif one doesn't want backups, one can disable the feature
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14:31.40SGOravaJanKusanagi: read again, by default it created files '<orig.name>~' and in dolphin these files are shown and it is big mess, in Thunar for example these files are hidden
14:32.07JanKusanagiso if you thing those files are a mess, disable the backup feature
14:32.27JanKusanagibut my point still stands, having backups is important, so having that as default makes a ton of sense to me
14:33.04JanKusanagi*think
14:33.21SGOravathat is not it, my question is why it is set in a way to be always displayed in dolphin, no way to hide those *~ files
14:33.34SGOravaas for backup, I know that and I like thatň
14:33.46SGOravathe workaround is to use separate direcotry for these swap files
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14:34.03SGOravabut when setting that up kate crashes
14:34.12SGOravahttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413474
14:34.19SGOravahere have a look
14:35.02SGOravamy point is, since both dolphin and kate are from same family (kde or defaults for plasma...) why is there such conflict when they cant recognize each other ?
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14:37.15SGOravaJanKusanagi: do you know of a way to hide them in dolphin ? https://imgur.com/dnIt8Yw.png
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20:08.05madpropshmm im having some weird issue using barrier (synergy fork)
20:08.19madpropswhen i move to another computer, fullscreen gets interrupted, the panel is visible again
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20:40.19mgnad78Hi guys i have troubles which seem to be inside of kde. I googled and didn't found something and thats why i would like to ask this question here
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20:43.12mgnad78I upgrade on arch to kde 5.17.1 ... since the update the i can see pulseaudio in plasma-pa and even test it but every other application (example console -> pactl info) isn't anymore able to see pulseaudio.
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20:44.17mgnad78my current workaround is -> systemctl --user mask pulseaudio.socket | systemctl --user stop pulseaudio | pulseaudio -D << after doing this the applications work again but pulseaudio isn't anymore found by kde
20:44.36mgnad78the plasma-pa applet is crossed by a red line
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20:47.06mgnad78i could reproduce this problem with a clean user and new config. Also with another windowmanager (i3wm) it all works like it should. I would be very happy if you could help or lead me to something i could follow
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21:00.16jankusanagi_sounds more like a distribution issue than a Plasma issue
21:00.43jankusanagi_I can't say about Archlinux, but I have no such issue here on Mageia with Plasma 5.17.1
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21:20.05mgnad78i check with the distribution guys ... we did a reset on all fronts
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21:21.46mgnad78maybe what makes my setup special is that i have besides the normal outs a local tcp port open so mopidy can stream to it from another user without makeing pulse a systemwide service
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21:22.03mgnad78but this port is only known inside of the mopidy config file
21:23.58SGOravawell, there can be difference from running pulseaudio under user and under system.
21:24.27mgnad78thats why i use the default setup running it as my main user
21:24.48mgnad78and let mopidy connect using a 127.0.0.1
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21:26.21mgnad78thats maybe the most difference of my config to a default config
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21:43.45madpropsis it possible to move dolphin's location bar to the toolbar?
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21:45.34jankusanagi_I don't think so
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21:46.05madpropsthat'd be cool
21:46.29madpropsim trying to minimize vertical size
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21:48.09jankusanagi_you can put the toolbar at one side
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21:53.36madpropslooks ugly on the side though
21:53.57madpropsim trying with no toolbar
21:54.03madpropsim only missing split, and back buttons
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