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03:22.54DelvienI killed the "desktop" how do i restart it without logging out?
03:23.45JanKusanagilaunch "plasmashell &" from a Konsole window
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06:03.52*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.17 and KDE Applications 19.08 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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06:12.01ob_hello
06:12.26ob_I wonder if there still exists fun:old_movie effect in kdenlive
06:12.35ob_someone can help?
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07:48.15shtrbGood morning , how can I do a screenshot that can capture notifications but after it was fully drown and not transparent ?
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10:32.38bittin_Sound died on the stream
10:34.35bittin_fixed now
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10:39.36bittin_sound problems again
10:41.41bittin_on Youtube, works on Twitter however, and now fixed
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11:58.33anarchotaoist-MHi all! I have problems with attached devices. If I insert a USB stick and selected 'Open with file manager' form the device notifier it opens with digiKam. If I plug in my camera and select 'Download with digiKam' then nothing happens. Nor can it open the camera with Dolphin. The parameters under removable storage are the same as my other device! I have even reset parameters. Nothing works! Help please!
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12:12.28anarchotaoist-MOk - One problem solved. I accessed the USB stick through Dolphin, right clicked to properties and in File Type Options moved Dolphin to top preference. USB stick working correctly now!
12:13.48anarchotaoist-MCamera does not appear in Dolphin - so I am not able to try that for the camera. ugh!
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12:49.48isomarigreetings, Where can I get Calligra Flow for ubuntu?
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13:03.06xyquadrat-Misomari: Calligra Flow is no longer part of the Calligra Suite
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13:03.33isomarixyquadrat-M: Is it on it's own or is it gone forever?
13:03.48xyquadrat-MIt does not seem to be packaged anymore in Ubuntu 18.04 (maybe because nearly no development occured), so you'd have to build it yourself
13:04.06isomariany alternative other than dia whihc is butt ugly?
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13:04.45xyquadrat-Misomari: See https://phabricator.kde.org/D25254
13:04.50xyquadrat-MKarbon would be a good fit
13:06.49isomarixyquadrat-M: thanks
13:07.02xyquadrat-Moh wait
13:07.50xyquadrat-Misomari: Have you tried draw.io ? Depending on your needs, it works very well
13:08.12isomarixyquadrat-M: no I haven't. I'll give it a go. thanks
13:10.32isomariit's online. That won't work for me.
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13:41.27xyquadrat-Misomari: There is a desktop version (electron) available, not sure if you like that though: https://github.com/jgraph/drawio-desktop/releases/tag/v12.2.2
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13:51.43CuChulaindHello. I am running the latest Plasma with multiple desktops. Currently my default panel shows only the open programs for the current desktop. Is there a way to have the panel show open programs on all desktops?
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14:05.43isomarixyquadrat-M: Yes, i just notcied that. I think I like it. Thanks.
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14:10.33LinusKardell-MCuChulaind: Right click the task bar, open the settings, and uncheck "Only show tasks from the current desktop".
14:11.58CuChulaind@LinusKardell-M, thank you
14:13.51CuChulaind@LinusKardell-M, the taskbar being the panel? Right clicking I get Config icons, show alts, and panel options
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14:14.34CuChulaindCOnfiguring the panel, more settings shows alignment etc, no checkbox for Only show tasks from the current desktop
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14:17.44CuChulaindConfig Icon Only option opened the settings you speak of FWIW
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16:53.17ArchMaverickGuys does anyone know how to make a tap on the touchpad act as a mouse clock
16:53.24ArchMaverickmouse click*
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16:53.39ArchMaverickI've forgotten where that option is present in the settings
16:54.07jankusanagi_Plasma's system settings → Input Devices → Touchpad
16:54.29jankusanagi_or you could just search for "touch" in Plasma's system settings
16:55.08ArchMaverickOh yes I found it. Thanks a lot buddy
16:57.27ArchMaverickHow come KDE consumes just as much memory as xfce
16:57.31ArchMavericknoticing that lately
16:58.29jankusanagi_you mean the Plasma desktop?
16:58.57jankusanagi_so are you saying you'd expect Plasma to consume more memory?
16:59.00asturmpeople using plasma should have known for some time that our desktop is rather efficient
16:59.58ArchMaverickWell I'm just a linux beginner but xfce looks really simple with 0 animations and stuff I don't know I'd expect it to be faster
17:00.03ArchMaverickBoy I was wrong
17:00.59ArchMaverickPlasma seems just as fast
17:01.03jankusanagi_Plasma rox =)
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19:35.53penguufor 3 hours i have been trying to get my keyboard to swap control with windows key because i cant access the keboard meny in settings
19:36.02penguuhow do i get the settings back ....
19:36.06penguuits not even there...
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19:37.48penguulol
19:40.29sarnoldpenguu: I use setxkbmap to make my caps lock key an escape..
19:40.36sarnoldpenguu: it can probably do something similar for you
19:41.06penguui use i3 and it looks like it prevents the keyboard layout from loading
19:41.20penguuworks now...
19:41.23penguuT.T
19:42.42sarnoldif you want to fiddle with it next time it busts :) try setxkbmap -options ctrl:swap_lwin_lctl   -- I found that name via grep ctrl /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/*.lst | grep win
19:44.37penguuthank you!
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19:46.00sarnoldthis is what I use in my own ~/.xsession (with i3wm) setxkbmap -option caps:escape
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19:46.18penguuhonestly
19:46.24penguusomething is messed up with i3
19:47.03penguusetxkbmap -options ctrl:swap_l win_lctl
19:47.03penguuError!   Option "-options" not recognized
19:47.32sarnoldugh sorry -option
19:47.44penguubro
19:47.47penguuthank you so mich
19:48.06penguuare these persistent changes?
19:48.23sarnoldno
19:48.51penguui dont have this folder in my distroy
19:48.53penguugrep ctrl /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/*.lst
19:49.02sarnoldthey don't even hang around all that long in a session. I haven't figured out yet what busts them but every few weeks my caps lock key returns to a bloody caps lock, not escape, and I have miserable ten seconds in vim until I realize what's going on
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19:55.17penguuthank you again
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20:03.43sarnoldpenguu: arch-independent stuff, documentation or resources or similar
20:04.09penguuthank you again again
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21:31.52SGOravaHello, how to disable feature "Print only selected text" in Kate / ktexteditor ?
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21:53.15TaokiJust curious for my own knowledge: What exactly is the plasma-framework package, and how does it affect other KDE software? Like is it a set of libraries that everything else depends on?
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22:48.26jankusanagi_not everything, but the Plasma desktop does (obviously)
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23:13.26TaokiThanks. Asking because I got an update to it, and was wondering what components I need to restart in order to make sure it's applied without restarting or relogging.
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23:14.13jankusanagi_at the very least, plasmashell, but it might affect other things
23:14.28TaokiDoes seem I might need to restart though. BRB
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