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01:58.52 | Manjaro-3828 | Just installed Manjaro. Used linux off and on for about a year but I recall there being default global media key shortcuts. I only have global shortcuts for Volume up/down. Any way to set it globally the same for next/previous media? |
01:59.31 | Manjaro-3828 | Forgot, KDE version is 1.18.3 |
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02:00.33 | Manjaro-3828 | or 19.08.3 |
02:09.26 | JanKusanagi | for the record, "KDE" is a group of people, no versions there |
02:10.13 | JanKusanagi | and for your question the relevant version would be the version of Plasma Desktop, but seeing how you have Applications 19.08.x, I guess your Plasma is recent |
02:11.15 | JanKusanagi | next/previous media shortcuts would be a setting of the media plasmoid, I guess |
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02:12.48 | JanKusanagi | there's a "Media Controller" component under Global Shortcuts, in Plasma's system settings |
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02:29.47 | Manjaro-3828 | Thanks but I don't see "media controller". https://i.imgur.com/WeVD5Lc.png |
02:30.37 | Manjaro-3828 | Sorry I didn't reply right away, I was busy searching |
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02:34.15 | JanKusanagi | look at the one called "system settings" just in case |
02:35.41 | Manjaro-3828 | There's only 3 and it's touchpad related. Maybe relevant but I'm using the "minimal" Manjaro install. Maybe there's some services it didn't install that KDE might normally come with? |
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02:37.13 | JanKusanagi | well, Plasma doesn't necessarily "come with" anything, but if you did a minimal install, you're probably missing many plasmoids |
02:37.17 | JanKusanagi | including that one |
02:38.25 | Manjaro-3828 | Ah, so what would be the relevant plasmoid? |
02:38.32 | JanKusanagi | my org.kde.plasma.mediacontroller plasmoid comes from the plasma-workspace-5.17.3-1.mga8 so assuming it's the same in your distribution, you should alerady have it |
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02:40.25 | jankusanagi_ | >> my org.kde.plasma.mediacontroller plasmoid comes from the plasma-workspace-5.17.3-1.mga8 so assuming it's the same in your distribution, you should alerady have it |
02:41.15 | Manjaro-3828 | Ok. I searched and it seems widgets and plasmoids are the same according to one source so I was adding a mediaplayer widget to the panel |
02:43.01 | Manjaro-3828 | Whatever the case, seems this is a bad choice on manjaro. Global media forward/next shortcuts should be default |
02:43.23 | jankusanagi_ | everybody has their own opinion about defaults |
02:43.32 | jankusanagi_ | a single size can never fit all |
02:45.33 | Manjaro-3828 | For now I just made a DBus media key shortcut for spotify. Is this optimal? Or what KDE does? I just don't want to screw my system up or make it non-performant |
02:48.02 | jankusanagi_ | if Spotify uses the MPRIS standard, Plasma's Media Player widget should be more than enough |
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02:50.37 | Manjaro-3828 | Thanks. Now if one were to assign mouse clicks to key presses, what's the most performant/best/optimal way globally? I'm currently using xdotool. Last question, I won't bug you any more |
02:50.54 | Manjaro-3828 | reverse that, key presses to mouse clicks |
02:51.00 | jankusanagi_ | I have no idea about that... I'd just use the media player widget xD |
02:51.21 | jankusanagi_ | (I don't use it because my player already supports its own global shortcuts) |
02:51.56 | Manjaro-3828 | Well, said I won't bug you but what's your media player? |
02:52.21 | sarnold | :D |
02:52.30 | jankusanagi_ | QMMP |
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02:54.52 | Manjaro-3828 | Wow, haven't heard of that one in a long time. I'm using SMPlayer since I'd like one for all media since I'm not very cognitively flexible, and did the same DBus shortcut as spotify |
02:57.06 | Manjaro-3828 | Anyway, thanks to all here if you're a dev. Much enjoying KDE |
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03:09.54 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma =) |
03:13.22 | Manjaro-3828 | Corrected. Although I've always historically heard it called kde, hard to get used to |
03:14.37 | jankusanagi_ | the desktop has been called Plasma for well over 10 years xD |
03:16.15 | Manjaro-3828 | Well, I'm old. Started with Mandrake in 2002. Been off again, on relationship with linux since. Too cognitively inflexible to deal with CLI much so I stuck with Windows |
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03:19.16 | jankusanagi_ | aaah, the old CLI myth =) |
03:22.30 | Manjaro-3828 | I look at it as an accessibility feature. Some of us are better at discovery through visuals. But I can't remember a damn thing. Seems every time I use linux the CLI programs change and my old scripts no longer work. The old tried/true ls always works but for example, key reassigning apps have changed so much through the years and distros |
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04:06.08 | contrapunctus | KDE Plasma v5.14.5, KDE Frameworks v5.54.0 on Debian 10. When I set `Super-n` and `Super-p` to task switching (forward and back), I'm unable to scroll further with repeated presses of `n` and `p` while Super is held. How can I fix this? |
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04:30.58 | contrapunctus | Also, when I use 'Find' in Dolphin, all items under 'More options' are greyed out. Why is this? O.o |
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04:33.10 | contrapunctus | Oh, I had to enable File Search. Might be good if the user is given a hint about it ð¤ |
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04:52.40 | Manjaro-3828 | "more options" is also grayed out for me but I clicked around a few times and so not anymore. Mostly new install |
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08:11.05 | contrapunctus | The content search in Dolphin doesn't return any results at all...the same query in KFind returns many results, but KFind doesn't seem to search in LibreOffice documents. Is there anything that does? |
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11:49.57 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
11:50.06 | contrapunctus | BluesKaj: hey! |
11:50.21 | contrapunctus | (##linux?) |
11:51.23 | BluesKaj | hi contrapunctus |
11:52.15 | BluesKaj | contrapunctus, what about ##linux ? |
11:53.21 | contrapunctus | It's where I think I remember you from ð |
11:54.01 | BluesKaj | ok |
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12:29.37 | rindolf | BluesKaj: hi, sup? |
12:31.03 | BluesKaj | rindolf, same ol' , and you? |
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12:32.05 | rindolf | BluesKaj: inkscaped this - https://www.shlomifish.org/humour.html#cast_an_American_actress |
12:35.31 | BluesKaj | rindolf, cool ;-) |
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12:37.41 | rindolf | BluesKaj: it is 800px instead of 400px tho |
12:40.38 | rindolf | BluesKaj: fixed now - https://www.shlomifish.org/humour.html#cast_an_American_actress - hit reload |
12:41.04 | rindolf | apparently my fedora sysetm lacks some fonts |
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17:24.34 | contrapunctus | Should I file a bug report about this? "The content search in Dolphin doesn't return any results at all...the same query in KFind returns many results, but KFind doesn't seem to return any LibreOffice documents." |
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17:39.40 | rindolf | contrapunctus: hi |
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17:45.32 | contrapunctus | rindolf: hi |
17:46.40 | rindolf | contrapunctus: did you try adding asterisks before and after? |
17:47.21 | rindolf | like *rainbowdash* |
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17:49.51 | contrapunctus | rindolf: does content search in KFind and Dolphin use different engines? O.o |
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17:50.26 | contrapunctus | I'll try that when I get back to a laptop, but I find it odd if this works |
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17:50.41 | rindolf | contrapunctus: no idea |
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18:31.50 | cosimone | hello everyone, basic question: where do kde applications such as konsole and konversation save their settings? i tried looking in ~/.local/share/ and ~/kde4/, but i couldn't find konversation's settings |
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18:32.09 | SGOrava | .config |
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18:33.21 | SGOrava | but this is KDE what we are talking about, setting/configuration is split between many files and directories, sometimes it is hard even for me to find the right one |
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18:36.50 | jankusanagi_ | the only relevant user directories are ~/.config/ and ~/.local/ |
18:37.13 | jankusanagi_ | another XDG standard, ~/.cache/ is used, but the name speaks for itself |
18:37.53 | SGOrava | that is true but it is challenge for me to find the right config or directory there :D |
18:38.14 | jankusanagi_ | well, usually it's just a matter of searching for the program's name xD |
18:39.28 | cosimone | uhm... i still fail to find something that looks like it's an actual configuration file |
18:39.29 | SGOrava | for me that is rare case, in KDevelop it is split into many many directories... |
18:40.01 | cosimone | yes, if there is one thing i don't like about the entire kde suite as a whole is that configuration files seem to be badly organized |
18:41.11 | SGOrava | cosimone: so you want konsole: ~/.config/konsolerc and ~/.local/share/konsole/* |
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18:41.39 | SGOrava | i do not use konverasation |
18:42.11 | SGOrava | cosimone: that is a price for reusing same thing in many programs, the parts have a bit more generic name... |
18:42.16 | jankusanagi_ | it's, surprise surprise, the same with Konversation |
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18:43.53 | cosimone | SGOrava: thank you for the answer, but i don't have that konsole file: for me it's actually ~/.local/share/konsole/ |
18:44.49 | SGOrava | i mentioned that too, it probably depends on what you search for, konsole has many options |
18:46.03 | jankusanagi_ | ~/.local/share/konsole is *exactly* what SGOrava mentioned |
18:46.03 | apt | jankusanagi_: okay |
18:46.06 | SGOrava | at worst locate is your friend |
18:46.17 | jankusanagi_ | which follows the XDG standard |
18:46.26 | SGOrava | jankusanagi_: well I added * as for all config files there |
18:46.31 | jankusanagi_ | I'd use "find" instead |
18:46.49 | jankusanagi_ | it's still exactly what you mentioned xD |
18:46.50 | SGOrava | i am not good with that yet |
18:46.53 | jankusanagi_ | the * isn't a great leap |
18:46.58 | cosimone | jankusanagi_: sorry, i missed that, i thought it was ~/.config/konsolerc only, my bad |
18:47.17 | SGOrava | all is fine |
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20:14.15 | contrapunctus | baloo_file_extractor processes keep using up 400% CPU (and grow in RAM usage until they get OOM killed), balooctl suspend and stop both just stop them and start them again seconds later ð |
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20:41.06 | Shadow53-M | contrapunctus: did you try balooctl disable? |
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23:01.13 | ezakimak_ | I plugged a 2nd monitor into my laptop via hdmi. it popped up a menu that let me configure the two monitors. How do I get that menu again? the one that "display settings" brings up isn't the same, and actually for some reason changes there don't take affect |
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23:32.44 | v6lur | Hi! Has anyone seen that a certain application (subtitlecomposer in my case) just won't honour the InitialPreference setting in its .desktop file? (running Arch, with KDE Framework 5.64 / applications 19.08) |
23:34.03 | v6lur | i have set vlc to have InitialPreference=10 for basically all multimedia, and subtitlecomposer to 8 for a subset of mimetypes, and another app (handbrake) at 5 for another subset |
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23:34.38 | v6lur | if only vlc and handbrake are installed (or their .desktop files present), all works as expected |
23:35.42 | v6lur | however as soon as subtitlecomposer .desktop file is there, it steals the "top spot" for its supported mimetypes |
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