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00:21.13ywecur-MDoes the Emacs input option that's on Gnome exist on KDE? https://i.postimg.cc/dt7ZXYtQ/screenshot.png
00:27.06jankusanagi_I'm not familiar with any such option in Plasma
00:27.16jankusanagi_what does it do, exactly?
00:29.34ywecur-M<jankusanagi_ "I'm not familiar with any such o"> jankusanagi_: Make Ctrl-A Ctrl-B and such usable in any text input
00:30.27jankusanagi_now imagine I don't speak Emacsnese =)
00:31.10jankusanagi_because, you know, "Ctrl+A" works in any text input on any Qt-based program (like Plasma Desktop is)
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02:03.44madpropshow can i customize/remove meta/win to open the menu?
02:04.13jankusanagi_remove, certainly
02:04.58jankusanagi_if you change the shortcut for Plasma's application launcher to something other than Alt+F1, meta key won't launch it
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05:52.54madpropsJanKusanagi: hmm i changed the plasma application launcher to ctrl+alt+m yet meta still triggers the menu
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05:54.30madpropsoh wait there seems to be 2 places to change it
05:55.05madpropsstill
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09:10.51davc0nhello
09:11.56davc0nis there any way to integrate google drive with dolphin?
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09:13.48xyquadrat-Mdavc0n: Take a look at https://blog.michael.franzl.name/2018/09/02/how-to-mount-google-drive-in-kdes-dolphin-file-manager/
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09:17.57davc0nthx
09:18.04davc0nis that available in archlinux?
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09:22.06asturmI would be surprised if not
09:26.03davc0nyep it's available
09:26.36davc0nbut I am wondering, can I access to files offline, and can I add/remove files ?
09:27.23asturmit does not have an offline sync
09:28.11davc0nasturm uhmmmmm but if I'm online it works for add/remove, right?
09:28.16asturmyes
09:28.38davc0nuhm, need to find a workaround, or other solutions... thx btw
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11:52.53BluesKajHiyas all
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12:06.08lateniteHi folks, what **is** kde.ActivityManager ? I see it in a strace of kate and dolphin starting up slow (20 sec).
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12:19.37lateniteHo is anyone up in here?
12:19.54SGOravaBluesKaj: morning
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12:20.17BluesKaj'Morning SGOrava
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12:36.26lateniteSimple question: Why does dolphin need '/usr/libexec/kactivitymanagerd' to run? (if /usr/libexec/kactivitymanagerd does not run, startup of dolphin takes about 28sec, and after that usability is bad because of long periodical freezes)
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12:38.07asturmprobably because it was built with activities support and this does not properly check for runtime availability
12:40.21lateniteasturm, what do you mean by "check for runtime availability" ?
12:40.28asturmof the service
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12:42.10asturmjust as with an application expecting dbus, it will timeout when this is not running
12:42.14lateniteahh okay. sorry
12:43.17lateniteasturm, so main cause is: dolphin expects '/usr/libexec/kactivitymanagerd' to run because at built time it was told: "you will have '/usr/libexec/kactivitymanagerd' ready and runing for you"
12:43.28lateniteDid I get that right?
12:43.31asturmyes
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12:44.07lateniteasturm, is there a way to get dolphin without that "feature"?
12:44.16asturmsure, build it without that
12:44.29asturmit is a feature though, no need for quotes
12:44.33lateniteI mean aside from building it from source and configuring that feature to be 'off'.
12:44.46asturmthat depends on your distro
12:44.50asturmas usual
12:44.54latenitefedora 31
12:45.06lateniteit is the KDE spin
12:45.35asturmmaybe it is not unreasonable for their KDE Spin to expect their applications run within Plasma environment
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12:47.44lateniteasturm, I tested their 'server' release. And installed i3 as desktop environment. Fedora server should not expect KDE apps to run on Plasma. Right?
12:48.16asturmI have no idea how KDE spin and server relate
12:48.21lateniteYet, dolphin on fedora server in i3 does not have '/usr/libexec/kactivitymanagerd' but is expecting it.
12:48.37asturmin fact, I have no idea about Fedora
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12:48.57lateniteasturm, server is terminal only, KDE-spin is a Plasma desktop.
12:49.09lateniteasturm, let me as over there.
12:49.37lateniteasturm, that you tons for clearing this up. I more and more get an idea of what is "bugging" me here :D
12:49.49asturmheh.
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12:57.43lateniteasturm, would you know if there is such a compile switch for KDE apps. One that disables the '/usr/libexec/kactivitymanagerd' dependency?
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13:00.31asturmwell, I already told you ;)
13:01.36asturmfind_package KF5Activities is usually optional and it is enough to disable it via cmake
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13:34.37madpropsis there a way to configure icons only taskbar to open a new instance with middle click instead of closing?
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19:41.22lateniteHi folks, I am using 'dolphin' in a desktop environment called 'i3'. I found out that '/usr/libexec/kactivitymanagerd' is needed for dolphin to start up. Now that it runs it still gives me problems. I can not right click on a file and get a menu (e.g. to open file with...)
19:41.46lateniteWhat else does 'dolphin' need to run properly?
19:41.54jfilzmaier-M<madprops "is there a way to configure icon"> Right Click -> More Acitons -> Configure Icon-Only Task Manager -> Behaviour -> on middle click
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19:44.07lateniteIn other words, which other daemons do KDE programms expect to be running? So I can start them up in 'i3' and enjoy a KDE programm like dolphin.
19:44.27zydus-M<latenite "Hi folks, I am using 'dolphin' i"> Did you take a look at the dependencies tab in your package manager?
19:44.41asturmlatenite: is dbus running?
19:44.51asturm(wild guess)
19:45.25latenitezydus-M, Fedora uses dnf to install and solve dependencies. I did not check if it failed to install any.
19:45.33lateniteasturm, how would I test that?
19:45.46asturmps -A | grep dbus
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19:48.55lateniteasturm, https://paste.ofcode.org/SS48imTu3SmTYAGPMPE3UW
19:48.56thiagoKDED programs should start the daemons they need to be running
19:49.00thiagokded auto-starts, for example
19:49.16lateniteasturm, I am not sure if this is all it takes to run dbus?!
19:49.23asturmno idea what dbus-broker is
19:49.23thiagoso if you're having problems with dolphin under i3 that it needs kactivitymanagerd to have been started but wasn't, report THAT as a bug
19:50.36thiagorun "qdbus"  from a shell. If it prints an error, there's a problem (if you don't have it installed, install; you can remove afater the test)
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19:52.03latenitethiago, That fails to run: https://paste.ofcode.org/guXUYR9NwVJrDJZYFKgyae
19:53.12latenitethiago, qdbus gives me this: https://paste.ofcode.org/eUFtrBADpnPQHn3nqRQX4D
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22:55.06tommy_greetings #kde, is there any way on plasma desktop not sure of the version, but as with centos7, to stop a two fingered scroll on a touchpad from switching desktops?  And for that matter to stop the task-manager from switching focused application when (accidentally) two-finger scrolling on it?
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22:59.31tommy_nm the first part of the question, I've found it in desktop-settings|mouse-actions, now I'm just stumped how to stop taskmanager switching apps inadvertently
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23:14.41JanKusanagiCentOS... that's probably still on Plasma 4 xDDD
23:15.01JanKusanagiI think there was a way, but if it's Plasma 4, I really can't remember steps xD
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23:16.16JanKusanagion Plasma 5.17, the Task Manager widget certainly has a "Cycle through tasks with mouse wheel" checkbox
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23:47.11tommy_cheers, thanks JanKusanagi, I suppose I'm really trying to create the look and simplicity of kde3.5 on the later version, where nothing unexpected happened
23:50.35tommy_would also like to get rid of the 'thing' on the desktop, even if I hide it under the taskbar, sometimes I like to autohide the taskbar with an all black screen, but the thing spoils the effect, pulsating away in the bottom corner
23:52.31IHaveTerminalAID<tommy_ "would also like to get rid of th"> The cashew?
23:53.22tommy_it does look a bit nutty, is that what it is?
23:54.05IHaveTerminalAIDNot really but thats what everybody calls it
23:54.45JanKusanagithat can be easily removed in Plasma 5.x
23:54.52JanKusanagibut again, I'm guessing you're on Plasma 4
23:54.58JanKusanagiit would help if you clarify
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23:57.14tommy_I'm stuck on the distro version of kde, unless I really want to forego relying on the system package manager for updating it, it's version 4.14.8
23:57.17tommy_of kde
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