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| 04:11.26 | jnash | Hey guys, anyone know what is going on with using Google's Single Sign-on? I am seeing an error message stating that KDE hasn't approved by Google to use this feature. I see that it has been an issue for a while. Anyone have any insights into plans to fix this? Thanks. |
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| 04:14.33 | jnash | Sorry, wrong place to ask that question. Cheers! |
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| 04:17.30 | tsarompy | jnash >> i had the same problem dude |
| 04:17.33 | tsarompy | if i find a fix i'll let you know |
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| 04:19.30 | jnash | tsarompy>> thanks. i appreciate it/ |
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| 08:39.13 | TomyWork | I removed key assignments for "move to trash" in "standard shortcuts" and in dolphin's shortcuts. still, the "open file" dialog in Kate still has that dialog. no such shortcut exists in kate |
| 08:39.26 | TomyWork | (also i really think that thing should have a confirmation prompt) |
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| 08:40.49 | TomyWork | s/still has that dialog/still has that shortcut/ |
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| 08:45.54 | TomyWork | (nm found the checkbox for the confirmation prompt for dolphin, but i still want to get rid of the shortcut in the open file dialog) |
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| 08:50.45 | lestofante-M | Is there a way to use kwallet to storie vault password? So when i open the wallet the resource get automount? |
| 08:51.14 | TomyWork | that would defeat its purpose, wouldn't it? |
| 08:51.20 | lestofante-M | No |
| 08:51.29 | lestofante-M | The wallet is supposed to be secure |
| 08:51.30 | TomyWork | what do you imagine its purpose is? |
| 08:51.52 | TomyWork | oh nm i read that wrong |
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| 08:51.53 | TomyWork | sorry |
| 08:52.10 | lestofante-M | :) |
| 08:52.21 | TomyWork | i thought you wanted to store the kwallet password so it gets automatically unlocked :) |
| 08:53.20 | lestofante-M | Oh no, for that i use pam and unlock at login with my user password |
| 08:53.32 | TomyWork | yeah |
| 08:53.42 | lestofante-M | So the idea is when i login j have password, key, and data ready to be used |
| 08:54.13 | TomyWork | i haven't used vault yet. haven't even been aware that it's a thing until now :) |
| 08:54.36 | lestofante-M | I could Aldo go for an encryoted user home, bit PC is shared so full disk encription wont help |
| 08:54.58 | lestofante-M | <TomyWork "i haven't used vault yet. haven'"> Super cool, work solid so far |
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| 08:56.56 | SchleimKeim | i just dropped by in case some kde devs are online to read what I have to say: I installed and setup KDE Plasma yesterday, and I gotta say that this is the best looking and most complete DE i've ever seen on a linux/unix system. |
| 08:57.24 | TomyWork | nomen est omen *cough* |
| 08:57.55 | TomyWork | lestofante-M, do you trust the admin? |
| 08:58.28 | TomyWork | (that's anyone with root/sudo access) |
| 08:59.44 | TomyWork | cause if you don't, all encryption efforts are in vain. they could easily keylog your vault password or, if you store that in kwallet, your user's password with which they can unlock the wallet |
| 09:00.39 | TomyWork | and if you trust the admin, "mkdir ~/protected && chmod 700 ~/protected" will be enough |
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| 09:13.02 | TomyWork | if vault mounts anything, they could even just straight up walk into your mounted directory and access your vault files directly while you have them mounted |
| 09:13.20 | TomyWork | i don't know if vault works by mounts, though |
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| 09:19.57 | lestofante-M | <TomyWork "lestofante, do you trust the adm"> I am the admin |
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| 09:20.28 | lestofante-M | <TomyWork "and if you trust the admin, "mkd"> No this is not enough because it is a laptop |
| 09:21.01 | lestofante-M | I can forget it at MacDonald and anyone can steal my nacked picture and blackmail me :P |
| 09:25.58 | lestofante-M | <TomyWork "if vault mounts anything, they c"> If they have sudo, otherwise cannot access my user folder in my case |
| 09:26.45 | lestofante-M | But yes, ideally when wallet get closed (and can be closed on screen lock), vault should unmount |
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| 09:52.25 | TomyWork | lestofante-M, if you're worried about theft, encrypt the disk |
| 09:54.37 | lestofante-M | <TomyWork "lestofante, if you're worried ab"> No because also is a multiuser machine and I want to protect my personal data if I let a guest use the pc |
| 09:55.44 | lestofante-M | The same thing could be used for a work PC: the admin are the IT guy, you want to encrypt the disk but also encrypt the data between users (and users don't have su/sudo) |
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| 09:57.07 | lestofante-M | Stop finding lame excuse for a missing functionality, is this GNOME developer chat? xD |
| 09:59.17 | TomyWork | if users don't have su/sudo and the disk is encrypted, there is no way for one user to access the other users' read-protected data |
| 10:00.04 | TomyWork | security bugs aside, of course :) |
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| 10:08.35 | lestofante-M | <TomyWork "if users don't have su/sudo and "> There are multiple issue at play. What happen if i loose the PC, what happen if i vive my PC to use to a friend, and actually i want then to access my home, just not that specifico data |
| 10:10.30 | lestofante-M | For example at work I want a coworker to access my code and tools he may need |
| 10:10.51 | lestofante-M | All without having sudo access |
| 10:12.52 | lestofante-M | I may even want to let some people access some vault and not others, depending on what project they work on |
| 10:14.35 | lestofante-M | Also I have my system already running, I don't see how easy would be to encrypt full disk/home |
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| 12:03.16 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
| 12:06.49 | Jucato | howdy |
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| 12:07.42 | BluesKaj | hey Jucato |
| 12:08.28 | Jucato | hey BluesKaj! |
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| 12:11.56 | BluesKaj | Jucato, you were away from irc for a while right, I didn't see you for a long time. |
| 12:12.35 | Jucato | i was away from more than just irc for a while :D |
| 12:13.47 | *** mode/#kde [+o Jucato] by ChanServ |
| 12:13.57 | *** topic/#kde by Jucato -> KDE Plasma 5.17 and KDE Applications 19.12 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
| 12:15.04 | BluesKaj | Jucato, I see |
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| 12:17.38 | Jucato | how's it going? |
| 12:21.03 | BluesKaj | ok here, just having morning coffee, how about you? |
| 12:21.23 | Jucato | going to do the opposite. hopefully :D |
| 12:22.17 | BluesKaj | sacktime ? |
| 12:22.30 | Jucato | yep. soonish |
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| 12:23.21 | Jucato-M1 | !cmd |
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| 12:23.51 | Jucato | drats .. will need to get that resolved soon -_- |
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| 13:30.27 | rindolf | BluesKaj: hi, sup? |
| 13:32.18 | BluesKaj | hey rindolf, just exploring Nexrcloud's site and thinking "I really don't need this" :-) |
| 13:32.29 | BluesKaj | Nextcloud |
| 13:33.45 | BluesKaj | rindolf, and what's up with you today? |
| 13:35.34 | rindolf | BluesKaj: i released https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hspell |
| 13:35.52 | rindolf | BluesKaj: it wraps a python module |
| 13:36.40 | BluesKaj | neat |
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| 13:38.04 | rindolf | BluesKaj: and kde plasma 5 did not work properly so i'm back at xfce |
| 13:38.39 | JanKusanagi | Plasma rox =) |
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| 13:41.54 | Evropi | lol, sounds like an inside joke but not gonna lie, I had some poor experiences with ownCloud about 5 years ago |
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| 13:43.02 | Eddi|zuHause | anyone know how i can clear out this mess? https://i.ibb.co/DzQMtqF/Screenshot-20191210-010734.png (as far as i tested, none of these actually change volume) |
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| 13:47.49 | rindolf | Eddi|zuHause: is this german? |
| 13:49.25 | Eddi|zuHause | yes |
| 13:49.34 | Eddi|zuHause | all of the entries say "increase volume" |
| 13:50.32 | Eddi|zuHause | (there's an equally long list of "decrease volume") |
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| 13:52.38 | BluesKaj | rindolf, I ran fedora for a while as an experiment after mistakenly listening to some ##linux "experts" and found the kde/plasma spin kind of clunky, especially the networking side with pertinent files scattered about in folders that had different paths than i was used to on Kubuntu. |
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| 13:54.09 | rindolf | BluesKaj: this is mageia here |
| 13:54.28 | rindolf | Eddi|zuHause: ok |
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| 13:56.20 | BluesKaj | rindolf, ok, my mistake, I thought you were running fedora |
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| 13:58.32 | tlatelolco | Hello. I need to export my Kmail data which was in Debian 8. But I didn't do it then and in the meantime I migrated to Debian 9. How can I recover it? Do I have to make a new Debian 8 box, paste the .kde files and export the file through the assistant? If so, how can I install a Debian 8 box? |
| 13:58.42 | rindolf | BluesKaj: ok |
| 13:59.16 | rindolf | tlatelolco: hi |
| 13:59.52 | rindolf | tlatelolco: how is it stored? which data backend? |
| 14:00.26 | tlatelolco | I mean my emails. I have at least one POP3 on a gmail account |
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| 14:01.19 | tlatelolco | I thought I could cope with the files in $HOME/.* but I guess the storign format changed from a version of KDE to another |
| 14:01.19 | Eddi|zuHause | tlatelolco: kmail should have an import function |
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| 14:02.05 | tlatelolco | Eddi|zuHause, what can it import from: .* files? |
| 14:02.24 | tlatelolco | or only from a previous kmail export? |
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| 14:02.48 | Eddi|zuHause | i don't think i ever used it, but it seems to have various import possibilities |
| 14:04.11 | tlatelolco | from mbox or from kmail archive exportation file :/ |
| 14:05.15 | tlatelolco | that's why I came to the conclusion that I had to recreate a Debian 8 box with its kde version, in order to export the mails properly. Then import them why this wizard |
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| 14:09.02 | Eddi|zuHause | tlatelolco: and import from mbox doesn't do what you want? |
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| 14:19.54 | tlatelolco | no, it's not a mbox |
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| 14:22.41 | yoma_ | back |
| 14:23.00 | JanKusanagi | front! |
| 14:23.57 | yoma_ | lol |
| 14:24.29 | d42 | the front fell off |
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| 14:25.58 | tlatelolco | Eddi|zuHause, i will ask the #debian channel |
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| 14:38.53 | Eddi|zuHause | tlatelolco: from what i can gather, the format should be a "maildir" |
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| 14:39.47 | loradona | when kde plasma 5.18 gonna out ? anyone knows ? |
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| 14:43.12 | Evropi | isn't there a published roadmap for that online? |
| 14:43.17 | Evropi | I think it's always done around the same time |
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| 14:46.45 | josef64 | loradona: See https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 |
| 14:46.54 | loradona | josef64: thanks :) |
| 14:47.00 | josef64 | :) |
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| 15:49.31 | thiago | using kwin_wayland with sddm autologin, kwin comes up at 1024x768. If I log out and log back in, then it goes full-screen. Note that SDDM at this point used X that was also full screen. |
| 15:49.41 | thiago | how do I debug why it gets the first resolution so wrong? |
| 15:49.45 | thiago | weston does the same |
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| 16:22.03 | dncrash-M1 | The whole kcmshell5 seems to be missing documentation. Nothing on google, no man page ... :( |
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| 17:26.19 | Cork | dbeaver adds ~/.local/share/plasma_icons/dbeaver.desktop and removing it adds it back on the next boot |
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| 17:26.31 | Cork | anyone know how to remove that taskbar icon= |
| 17:26.33 | Cork | *? |
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| 18:34.00 | xmnm | hello, I installed colord-kde recently, up until this point I had been using xcalib for over a year to set my color profile without issue, but I decided to try the gui. What I found is that generally in a few minutes after applying the color profile, the default one will be applied (although colord-kde will say the one I set is active) so I have to switch to default and then back to my color profile for it to change. and then it will autochange again in a few |
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| 18:35.50 | xmnm | plasma-desktop 5.17.4, plasma-framework 5.64.0, colord-kde 0.5.0, colord 1.4.4 |
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| 18:38.54 | xyquadrat-M | xmnm: huh, that is weird. I suspect this is a bug - report it on bugs.kde.org |
| 18:39.24 | xmnm | is there any way I could get some debug information on colord-kde itself? so as yo have a better report in any case |
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| 18:44.16 | xmnm | also, might as well ask, I don't know if it was me who changed something on my side, but kde's notification taskbar icon used to say how many notifications are pending, but now it only shows a "!", this was soon after there was some sort of overhaul to the notification system |
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| 19:02.14 | jankusanagi_ | I think it's by design that the "overhauled" notifications don't show a counter |
| 19:02.36 | xyquadrat-M | indeed |
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| 19:03.08 | xyquadrat-M | The reason is quite simple: large numbers take a lot of space, which is hard to make look good. Additionally, there were font problems all over the place |
| 19:03.10 | xyquadrat-M | (at least that's what i remember) |
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| 19:07.16 | xmnm | well, I don't know if it was something on my theme, but they were the same size |
| 19:07.23 | xmnm | notifications just capped at 99 |
| 19:08.09 | xmnm | I wish it was made an option, if I leave my computer while having pending notifications I can tell at a glance if I got more while gone |
| 19:10.01 | jankusanagi_ | well, it's probably something that might come back |
| 19:10.30 | jankusanagi_ | I guess one can't have the overhauled system wait for every possible feature before being put to use |
| 19:12.03 | xmnm | I guess, and I hope it comes back eventually |
| 19:14.22 | xmnm | also, is there anyway to configure how big the area used by the different "body" sections for the taskbar take? like, I have the clipboard manager and it'd be useful if the area was bigger so I could see more stuff at once, same with the notifications themselves |
| 19:18.30 | jankusanagi_ | I guess you mean the popup |
| 19:18.39 | jankusanagi_ | I don't know of a way |
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| 19:23.04 | jankusanagi_ | as a possible alternative, the Notifications plasmoid can be placed on the desktop (even a second plasmoid) with an arbitrary size |
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| 19:28.33 | xmnm | well, I can leave with it as it is for now |
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| 19:30.45 | xmnm | live, rather |
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| 20:42.31 | Cork | dbeaver adds ~/.local/share/plasma_icons/dbeaver.desktop and removing it adds it back on the next boot |
| 20:42.36 | Cork | anyone know how to remove that taskbar icon? |
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| 22:35.59 | Evropi | is there something like FancyZones for KDE/KWin? https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/blob/master/src/modules/fancyzones/README.md |
| 22:36.43 | Evropi | it doesn't show actual use, but basically you set up the zones like it shows in that screenshot. Then, when moving a window you hold shift and the zones come up. You can drop them in the zone and they resize as appropriate |
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| 23:51.10 | jankusanagi_ | there might be something in KWin scripts |
