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00:05.55Shadow53-MHopefully someone can help me figure this out: I recall being able to, on a particular distro, save my primary GPG key's passphrase in kwallet for easy unlocking. I'm currently using Fedora though and I don't seem to have that option. Anyone know how to enable it, or what package(s) I need to install?
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00:30.21jankusanagi_something like kwallet-pam, maybe?
00:30.51asturmthat is for unlocking on login
00:31.07asturmit does not add any capabilities to kwallet itself
00:31.08jankusanagi_and only provides that?
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00:40.07Shadow53-Mkwallet-pam only unlocks the default wallet on login, and only if it's using blowfish encryption with the user's password. No GPG storage :/
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01:28.48glickhi pardon, on desktop effects it says zoom in is META+=
01:29.01glickhowever when i press ALT and the = key nothing happens
01:33.44JanKusanagiif that shortcut doesn't work correctly with your keyboard layout, set one you like
01:34.10glickwhy would it nto work i have a regular US qwerty layout
01:36.18JanKusanagiI can't say; on a Spanish layout, the "=" sign requires shift...
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01:48.00JucatoMeta is often the Win key
01:48.11Jucato(or Lose key, if you prefer)
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01:51.10mrproperI'm on Kubuntu and using an openconnect VPN session. I have "save password" checked but it doesn't seem to save the password.
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02:24.49glickwhy do my shortcuts not work in kde?
02:25.05glickfor example dolphin shortcut is META-E
02:25.14glickbut hitting alt-e does nothing
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02:30.01Jucatoglick: [20/01/2020 09:48] <Jucato> Meta is often the Win key
02:30.37JanKusanagi↑ alt-e is not tha same as meta+e
02:33.58Jucatoit's a confusing thing. from the days when Alt was the Meta key i think. Emacs still uses that (M is Alt)
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02:49.00JanKusanagifor the record, everywhere on Plasma, the Alt key is called Alt
02:49.34JanKusanagiin the Shortcuts modules in Plasma's system settings, there are plenty of shortcuts defined with Alt+****+****
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07:38.19madpropsI think i have a global menu widget existing somewhere
07:38.31madpropsbecause i can't make dolphin show the menu with ctrl + m
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08:18.27rindolfmadprops: ah, what is  your desktop env?
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08:25.58madpropsrindolf, plasma
08:26.12rindolfmadprops: ah
08:26.54madpropsi did add a global menu widget but it kind of escaped the panel
08:36.01rindolfmadprops: i see
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08:41.08madpropsmaybe theres' a way to list all active widgets?
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08:44.05rindolfmadprops: don't know - maybe
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09:38.03WarxcellHello, few days ago I had a problem with Dolphin - it was using too much memory. I received advice to disable Previews. I did it.  Now Dolphin is using 11.8GB memory. Any other ideas?
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09:42.13Warxcell12308320 KB[heap]
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10:40.36rindolfWarxcell: can you use valrgind / etc.? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valgrind
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10:45.55Warxcell@rindolf maybe in few days, when consumption rises again. I already restarted it
10:46.57rindolfWarxcell: you need to run «valgrind [...] /usr/bin/dolphin»
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10:51.26Warxcellran it. now have to wait
10:51.34TuorThe DPI scaling bug with lines in the terminal does also happen in gwenview. But there It's a lot more and sometimes even not realy usable.
10:51.35Warxcellusually it grows over the time
10:52.11Warxcellcurrent usage is 73MB
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11:07.47Warxcelllol just saw that Kate with single opened file is using also 1.5GB
11:08.29Warxcelland it's even not big file, 20 lines
11:09.56rindolfWarxcell: i see - strange
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11:21.25HaMsTeRsI'm having a serious bad time tuning KDE
11:23.02HaMsTeRsHi Guys, I"m using Kvantum with GlassKV + KVGlass theme, I'm having a hard time tuning my KDE desktop.  After fixed the dolphin blurry thing, I found that not all my applications follow the blurry rule.  (Eg. Libre Office)
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11:27.14rindolfHaMsTeRs: is kde behaving acceptably with a different theme?
11:28.33HaMsTeRshalf and half
11:28.38HaMsTeRssort of
11:29.05HaMsTeRsbut, my desktop just looks gay.  parts of it looks male, and the other girly
11:29.20rindolfHaMsTeRs: hmmm
11:29.45HaMsTeRsI can show you a screenshot
11:29.56rindolfHaMsTeRs: ok
11:33.30HaMsTeRshttps://imgur.com/a/FdjUvI5
11:33.39HaMsTeRsthe first image is where all windows suppose to be
11:34.01HaMsTeRsthe you see the second and third image, that's where the gay happens
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11:36.55HaMsTeRsand you see, the font of digital clock is huge
11:37.18HaMsTeRsand the description of the application inside the start menu is larger than the application name.
11:38.46HaMsTeRstwists rindolf's nipples
11:39.03rindolfHaMsTeRs: sorry - went afk
11:39.24HaMsTeRsnah, it's ok
11:40.15Warxcell@rindolf - https://drive.google.com/open?id=196gs2vvizhTXKHAiE9FtusZ79N2wTZfs here is the Massif of Kate with nearly 500MB usage
11:40.32rindolfWarxcell: ok
11:41.49Warxcell@rindolf dolphin is slowly eating a bite of RAM. started at 300MB, now it's 2GB.
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11:42.32rindolfWarxcell: ok
11:43.08rindolfWarxcell: i cant see the forest for the trees in that massif output
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11:43.44Warxcell@rindolf I'm not sure that I understand you
11:46.05rindolfWarxcell: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/see_the_forest_for_the_trees
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11:47.07rindolfHaMsTeRs: the theme does seem inconsisten
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11:48.58Warxcell@rindolf i see but what's the issue with that massif?
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11:59.34rindolfWarxcell: it is too detailed
11:59.50rindolfWarxcell: are there any memory leaks?
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12:02.59Warxcell@rindolf i can't determine for sure. the most memory intensive function is QApplication::notify  in libQt5Widgets. it starts with 5MB and ends in 100MB
12:04.39rindolfWarxcell: ah
12:05.27Warxcell@rindolf then it's followed up by 2 functions in libQt5Core which takes total of 200MB
12:05.31Warxcell3*
12:06.34Warxcellmaybe I should wait a bit longer so it can take more memory, to be more clear
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12:07.31rindolfWarxcell: ah
12:10.38rindolfWarxcell: what is your os / distro / hardware / versions?
12:12.23Warxcell@rindolf OSArch Linux, KDE Plasma Version: 5.17.5, KDE Frameworks Version: 5.66.0, Qt Version: 5.14.0, Kernel Version: 4.19.96-1-lts, CPU: 12 × Intel® Core™ i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, Memory: 31,3 GiB
12:12.56rindolfWarxcell: ah
12:13.05rindolfWarxcell: intel gfx?
12:15.06WarxcellIntel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Mobile) + NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
12:15.46Warxcell@rindolf with  PRIME render offload
12:16.26rindolfWarxcell: ah nvidia
12:18.00Warxcell@rindolf yup, I'm glad NVIDIA supports now switching on linux :)
12:18.41rindolfWarxcell: what?
12:19.28Warxcell@rindolf I never succeeded to run bumblebee to switch from Integrated to discrete graphics card
12:19.51rindolfWarxcell: ok
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12:35.56weedmicI am using KDE Plasma 5.12.9 - my desktop icons seem to be in a "snap to grid" mode.  I want to align my icons based on my sight as the grid causes them to allign on bottom title line for height and nothing seems to centre on icon.  how do I do that?  I have not found anything in "system settings"
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12:41.35weedmicnotice FF is off - this is the closest I can get.  when it "is" lined up, when i let go, it snaps to this location.  https://www.pastepic.xyz/image/image.PBxzq note that SonicWall has two lines and the icon goes a level up affecting Remmina AND Remina cannot go more right w/o snapping back to this location.
12:41.40weedmichttps://www.pastepic.xyz/image/image.PBxzq
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12:51.10weedmicI read that one can right click on the desktop and select layout - grid (or unselect that), but I'm given only two options:  Desktop or Folder
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13:06.36JanKusanagiI don't remember Plasma 5.12 that well, but I don't think there's any "free floating" icon mode
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13:13.31BluesKajHowdy folks
13:13.37JanKusanagio/
13:14.01BluesKaj\o
13:15.00rindolfBluesKaj: hi, sup?
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13:15.35BluesKajhey rindolf, just waking up, you?
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13:16.49rindolfBluesKaj: trying to debug this inkscape bug and running into a gdb snafu: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues/800
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18:26.30glickin system settings we need two scroll settings
18:26.42glickone for trackpad which is more natural as inerted scroll
18:26.54glickbut when you attach a mouse, non-inverted scroll is more natural
18:27.02glickit appars you can only have one or the other system wide
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18:30.13jankusanagi_there's is a setting for reverse scroll _in_ the touchpad settings, and another in the mouse settings
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18:33.46NyleHello in KATE text editor can you make the red underline off?
18:34.01NyleI disabled the dictionary checking and spell checking but I still see the squiggly red line under words
18:34.08NyleI am using for editing code and I don't need spell checking
18:36.21NyleIn adition to that
18:36.25Nylehttps://askubuntu.com/questions/816866/how-to-get-kates-spell-checker-to-show-all-misspelled-words
18:36.31NyleThere is a menu option you have to disable
18:36.40NyleTOOLS>spelling> [x]automatic spell
18:36.46NyleNow words are not underlines anymore, thank you
18:36.51Nylehope someone finds it useful too
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20:06.38makr8100Nyle: just a suggestion coming from someone who used to use Kate a lot (still do at times) you might try giving kdevelop a shot
20:07.38makr8100kwrite is basically a notepad clone with highlighting, kate is a multi-tab kwrite with a few plugins, and kdevelop is where they ran with kate to make a full-blown ide with built-in compiler, etc
20:08.37makr8100there are a few kate plugins I miss in kdevelop, specifically higlight and run SQL, but definitely more benefit than hindrances
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22:35.58shadokHello, just to let you know cnames for windows.kde.org and mac.kde.org do not exist anymore while the page at https://kde.org/download/ still contains links to them.
22:36.41shadokIf anyone knows where the builds for kde for windows are (if they still exist) I'd be happy to know
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22:59.01Nylemakr8100: I have kdevelop setup for my needs. I don't like it.
22:59.10NyleIt does not meet my needs like Netbeans 11.2 does
22:59.17NyleI've been using netbeans as my primary IDE for over a decade.
22:59.35NyleI use Kate for simple stuff, not IDE type stuff. For that, Kdevelop does not meet my needs.
22:59.46NyleBut it is much more lightweight than Netbeans.
23:00.42NyleI use Kate mostly for typing daily journals and I use Kate as my primary webdev tool for static site gens (pure thml/css/js) no IDE stuff needed. It has project management so it works well.
23:01.11NyleI have various profiles setup in kate where it is mapped it certain directories/projects and it's just easy peasy for me
23:01.31NyleI got a kate session for all my kde configs, one for all my xserver configs, one for all my other kind of configs, etc. etc.
23:01.39NyleKdevelop becomes too much for stuff like that too.
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23:08.37makr8100ah, makes sense
23:10.47NyleIs there a way to sync kde settings across desktop/laptop if you have the same distro, same version, etc.
23:13.47rdieterNyle: backup/restore these dirs:  ~/.config, ~/.local/ , and possibly ~/.kde if you care about legacy kde4 stuff
23:14.06makr8100You could rsync the dot folders that KDE/Plasma stores things in, but that could create complications regarding peripheral configs, etc.
23:14.26makr8100right, on a fresh install I just copy those folders as a base starting point
23:14.52rdieterPersonally, I limit sync'd content to only a few apps I care about
23:15.19rdieter(notably, plasma is *not* one of them, or anything akonadi-related)
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