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00:31.41wwilliamI have kde plasma version 5.8.6
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00:31.52wwilliamand the power settings
00:31.55wwilliamdont work
00:32.14wwilliampower management configuration module can not be loaded.
00:32.32wwilliamthe power management service appear not to be running
00:33.01wwilliamThis can be solve by starting the or shcheduling it
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00:33.18wwilliamwhat is wrong? how to fix?
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00:36.09jankusanagi_Plasma 5.8? wow, that is so old xD
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00:36.29jankusanagi_maybe the powermanagement features don't work on a VM...
00:36.36jankusanagi_however, why such an old version?
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00:44.20M_aDjankusanagi_: probably he's still running Debian 9 Stretch which uses KDE Plasma 5.8.6
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01:09.45wwilliamjankusanagi_: that it was what debian stretch installed.
01:09.59wwilliamM_aD: yes stretch.
01:12.58wwilliamHow do i the latest kde on stretch?
01:13.05wwilliamInstalled*
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01:13.47jankusanagi_I doubt you can get the latest Plasma on Debian Stretch
01:14.14jankusanagi_you'd need a much newer Qt and a whole lot of other updates all over the place
01:14.30wwilliamOK thank you.
01:14.53jankusanagi_even the current Debian Stable has old stuff... Debian OldStable is just... ancient xD
01:15.20wwilliamok so what distro has the latest kde?
01:16.46Merritt-MIf you want the latest KDE stuff, probably KDE Neon or Manjaro KDE are your best bet
01:16.49Merritt-MI have been enjoying Manjaro personally.
01:16.55jankusanagi_there are several distributions with the latest Plasma Desktop... KDE Neon, Mageia Cauldron, any rollin release like ArchLinux...
01:17.39jankusanagi_but nevermind "the latest", you can at least have a reasonably up-to-date thing even with Debian Stable... compared to your Debian OldStable
01:29.28wwilliamthe latest debian stable can not install shrewsoft vpn which i need and installs on stretch.
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01:29.47wwilliamso I think i will leave that power shit like it is.
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01:32.07Merritt-MIs that.. right? Shew soft hasn't been updated since 2013??
01:32.19Merritt-MThat can't be very secure
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01:38.28wwilliambut is what i can use.
01:38.32wwilliamfor my vpn
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02:57.24Atrius-MI'm having very bad lag (3s to open application drawer) and Plasma 5.17 with nvidia proprietary drivers, fixed by either changing from opengl to xrender compositor backend or enabling force full composition pipeline in nvidia x settings. Is this to be expected?
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04:00.39Zauberfischgood day
04:00.55ZauberfischI'm an i3 user, trying plasma with i3 for the first time
04:01.25Zauberfischlooking pretty good. But I can't get the application icons/task icons in the i3 status bar to work
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04:01.59ZauberfischI removed the plasma panel at the bottom, hoping that the icons will now show up in the i3 bar
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09:10.06DarwinElfi'm wondering if there's any way in KDE5 to stop portable PC (laptop, etc.) battery charging at certain level... a friend who uses more such devices said it's best to keep battery between 30% and 70% for some reason, so I wanted to stop it charging at 70%...
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09:17.34tanriol-MDarwinElf: AFAIK, no, Plasma does not have exposed settings for that - and, furthermore, one normally needs hardware support for that. I know that ThinkPads support charging to a certain level, but most laptops do not.
09:19.02DarwinElfaha; thanks
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09:27.59Alpha3031-MCan confirm. Have a thinkpad and a dell, only the thinkpad has kernel support for ACPI charge thresholds.
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09:41.19Alpha3031-MWeird glitch I'm having: When logging in to Online Accounts with a Google account on a new openSUSE Tumbleweed install, I go through the name->password->2fa->grant access flow but then it just asks me to log in again.
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12:43.47BluesKajHi folks
12:44.19SGOravaWelcome
12:47.06troffaskywwilliam: I was using Shrewsoft, too, but when it fell out of Ubuntu, I found that I could configure the equivalent VPN connection in the plasma networkmanager thing
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12:48.21troffaskyi started using Shrew when KVPNC succumbed to bitrot
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12:50.33wwilliamtroffasky: using what feature on the network-manager which kind of connection?
12:51.07rindolfBluesKaj: hi, sup?
12:51.12troffaskyconnecting to customer's Cisco router
12:51.24troffaskyi assume it's using vpnc as a backend
12:51.59wwilliamcan we do it together? steb by step this the .vpn file i have:
12:52.15troffaskyno, because i'm at home and working system is at the office
12:53.01wwilliamhttp://paste.debian.net/1129884/
12:53.04troffaskyi think i had to input parameters manually from config file
12:53.40wwilliamOH OK Thank you, I tried vpnc yesterday and did not "work"
12:53.55troffaskyhmm, ISTR the Cisco VPN client config file format looked a bit more like an "ini file" than that
12:54.00troffaskyis that a Shrew file you pasted?
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12:54.17wwilliamyes shrew t
12:54.34wwilliamthe one Import and export to shrew
12:54.44wwilliammaking it very easy to configure.
12:55.32wwilliamyes troffasky i tried to input some of the info from that config file but i was not able to make it work.
12:57.44troffaskyperhaps watch journalctl -f whilst trying to connect, might give some clues
12:58.22troffaskyI've only got one system I ever need to connect to with vpnc so I don't have very broad experience with it
12:58.28wwilliamOK will try later today again may be from command line only
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13:02.55smakkedSO....New Kde version on tuesday? 5.18 ?
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13:03.22asturmyou mean... Plasma?
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13:08.52smakkedSorry yes
13:09.09asturmin that case the answer is yes
13:11.01wwilliamtroffasky:
13:11.02wwilliamInspiron NetworkManager[811]: /usr/sbin/vpnc: missing IPSec ID
13:11.12wwilliamwhich one is the IPSec ID?
13:11.27wwilliamfrom all that in the .vpn file?
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13:26.21troffaskynot familiar with that config file format but i would guess one of the ident-* lines
13:26.44wwilliamok Thank you
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15:03.11bozsikarmandHello
15:04.32SGOravawelcome
15:05.26jankusanagi_o/
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15:17.37Merritt-MHello everyone 🙂
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15:21.50Merritt-Msent a long message: < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.org/qBIwvTcTVHtCbMPqnZtpwspU >
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15:30.11jankusanagi_you might want to ask in #kde-devel, maybe ping ngraham
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15:31.48Merritt-MM'kay, will do. ty
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15:55.15Zauberfischhey guys. I've asked this before, but it was during the night. so please forgive me for reposting
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15:55.50ZauberfischI'm using plasma with i3 as window manager. Everything working smoothly except application icons/task icons in the i3status bar
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15:56.27ZauberfischI have removed the kde/plasma panel, but the application icons are still not int he i3status bare
15:56.31Zauberfischbar*
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16:18.26tanriol-MZauberfisch: What icons do you mean? The notification area?
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16:22.15Zauberfischtanriol-M: the task bar. not sure what to call it
16:22.32Zauberfischtanriol-M: like, the minimized/background applications
16:23.46SGOravasystem tray ? I think it only allows one "client"
16:23.59Zauberfischyeah, system tray
16:24.11Zauberfischyeah, I figured. How do I disable the KDE system tray client?
16:25.36Zauberfischfunny enough. 1 icon actually shows up. "jetbrains toolbox". Others such as network manager, nextcloud, and so on not
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16:26.04tanriol-MIf you're talking about the system tray, the problem is likely https://github.com/i3/i3/issues/2088
16:27.14SGOravayou might need to install something like libapp-indicator-gkt2 or 3 (names from archlinux)
16:27.18Zauberfischon a previous i3 install (without kde/plasma) the tray worked
16:27.35tanriol-MDid it work for the same apps, however?
16:27.41Zauberfischyes
16:28.01Zauberfischbasically, I copy pasted my i3 config over from my old PC
16:28.24Zauberfischbut this is i3+plasma. so I had 2 status bars. the one from plasma and the one from i3.
16:28.29ZauberfischThe plasma bar had all the icons
16:28.36Zauberfischthen I removed the plasma bar
16:29.00Zauberfischand I was hoping that just removing the bar would make the icons come to the i3 bar
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16:29.16Zauberfischlibappindicator-gtk3 is installed
16:29.36SGOravamaybe you need to kill something
16:29.56Zauberfischprobably. but what?
16:30.04Zauberfischwhat's the process name of the plasma system tray?
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16:41.26SGOravano idea, start killing and you will figure it out
16:42.12SGOravakeep in mind that you might need to restart i3panel to see changes (or so I think)
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17:27.06erentar2002-Mhow the fuck is plasma so fast
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17:27.34erentar2002-Mjust switched from gnome
17:28.11JanKusanagigood programming? =)
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17:48.06erentar2002-MFeedback: your panel is too easy to remove by accident
17:50.58JanKusanagiI wouldn't say "your", like you're speaking to the developers... but an accidental removal can also be easily undone
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18:00.36Deknosand you can lock the panel, then it is not so easy to remove.
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18:15.14Merritt-MIs there an option to require a confirmation to remove plasmoids? Might be a nice global on/off setting
18:16.40JanKusanaginot that I know of, but between locking widgets and the undo functionality...
18:17.51Merritt-MIs pretty good I agree, though I can see some users might prefer having confirmations
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18:30.13arayasouren-MIt would be overkill
18:30.13arayasouren-MLocking is just perfectly enough
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22:49.10vulcan46I am using plasma 5.17 and not sure this has anything to do with it but I have 2 monitors and when they go dark (after period of non use), when I move the mouse, SOMETIMES the 2nd monitor does not come back
22:50.05vulcan46and I have to re "enable" the 2nd monitor
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23:06.44JanKusanagicould be... I personally don't have multiscreen
23:06.49JanKusanagibut your issue sounds familiar
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23:07.25vulcan46JanKusanagi:  thanks, I think its a LONG standing issue with X
23:08.06JanKusanagiyou could try Plasma on Wayland =)
23:08.07vulcan46or things surrounding X
23:09.04vulcan46when fecdora 32 comes out, I may do that but I have scripts that depend on programs such as xrandr
23:09.38JanKusanagiwell, by "try", I meant... "try" =)
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