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| 02:27.01 | cochralogica-M | ok |
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| 02:52.23 | sigNeon | does kde have a webcam app? |
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| 02:53.26 | jankusanagi_ | there used to be Kamoso |
| 02:53.29 | jankusanagi_ | not sure about its status |
| 02:54.09 | sigNeon | saw that |
| 02:54.17 | sigNeon | looks like you gotta create an account and stuff |
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| 03:05.51 | jankusanagi_ | what?? |
| 03:05.59 | jankusanagi_ | it's (or was) just a desktop program |
| 03:08.40 | jankusanagi_ | kamoso-19.12.2-2.mga8.x86_64 â apparently it's part of the applications release "pack" |
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| 03:12.30 | stochastix | Anyone know of an open source project that sounds cool that I can get an email account with and pay money to support the project? lol I hate gmail, and switched to att fiber from charter and made the mistake of using a charter account all these years. |
| 03:13.07 | stochastix | I can pay for protonmail, but id rather pay money to an opensource project., |
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| 03:18.27 | stochastix | If I was offered a kde.com email address, I would pay money, sweep floors, and clean the toilets lol :) love you guys. |
| 03:18.53 | Velvet | :D |
| 03:19.31 | jankusanagi_ | probably kde.org =) |
| 03:19.33 | sarnold | damn man, I got toilets that need cleaning... |
| 03:19.44 | jankusanagi_ | you could ask on #kde-devel or #kde-sysadmin =) |
| 03:19.54 | stochastix | I got accounts that need email addresses changed out on bad lol |
| 03:20.15 | stochastix | I have toilet brush and gloves lol |
| 03:20.16 | jankusanagi_ | I don't know if the "Join the game" is still a thing, but probably those who "joined" got e-mail addresses |
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| 03:28.38 | Jucato-M | kde.org addresses are just redirects/aliases. You still need a real email for it |
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| 03:29.34 | Velvet | is opera open source? |
| 03:29.51 | Jucato-M | Nope |
| 03:29.54 | Velvet | they have mail i think |
| 03:30.03 | Velvet | oh.. bummer |
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| 05:28.34 | walterclements-M | Jucato: Is your address here an alias too? |
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| 05:39.31 | Jucato-M | What address? |
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| 05:42.27 | walterclements-M | jucato:kde.org |
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| 05:46.13 | Jucato-M | Nah. That's what Matrix assigns to users in the chat. Or at least i think. Not sure how it works |
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| 06:21.27 | pingufan | Hello. I use KDE5/Plasma5 on a dual screen system. Can I configure (and how) that new windows are always opened on the first screen? |
| 06:22.54 | akik | pingufan: yes i have the recipe for that |
| 06:22.59 | pingufan | At the moment, Windows are opening always on that screen where I clicked last time (so I got the impression) |
| 06:23.17 | pingufan | Hello, akik. Please, tell me. |
| 06:23.50 | akik | pingufan: it might actually work so that the windows open on the screen where your mouse pointer is but this helps a lot |
| 06:24.11 | akik | https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2015/08/19/how-to-force-all-programs-to-open-on-your-primary-display-kde/ |
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| 06:29.13 | pingufan | But now the popup of the menu system also pops up in upper-left corner. |
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| 06:29.40 | akik | pingufan: you did those changes exactly as they are listed? |
| 06:30.09 | akik | my k menu opens in the lower left corner as it should |
| 06:32.31 | akik | which popup opens in the wrong place now for you? |
| 06:33.30 | pingufan | I click the KMENU icon. My taskbar is at bottom. The menu appears in UL corner. |
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| 06:34.38 | akik | pingufan: i have my laptop screen on left and tv on the right, primary display is laptop |
| 06:35.12 | pingufan | But I did not figure out what to do in the KDE5 Settings. |
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| 06:35.33 | akik | which part? |
| 06:36.19 | akik | you can search the settings if you can't directly see them |
| 06:36.21 | pingufan | "KDE 5: Go to" ... This description |
| 06:36.53 | akik | i've changed the systemsettings view to the icon view in its configure |
| 06:36.55 | pingufan | What I have to do inside windiw management |
| 06:37.02 | akik | that might be different than on your system |
| 06:37.55 | akik | i've just listed the things that you need to click to get to the setting |
| 06:38.30 | akik | when you see window behavior, you see focus on the right side tab |
| 06:38.33 | pingufan | Ah, the secret was/is: Under Mouse. Then the menu is placed again in lower left cornder because my mouse is there... |
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| 06:39.28 | akik | does that help? |
| 06:39.52 | pingufan | I am actually testing |
| 06:40.24 | pingufan | Yes! It works! Thank you so much. |
| 06:41.25 | pingufan | Because my screens are in an angle of 45 deg from my sitting position, it was very nasty to always have to look so far to the right |
| 06:42.57 | akik | i wonder what would happen if you had three displays |
| 06:43.40 | pingufan | Then I need a neck like a swan |
| 06:43.45 | akik | i had trouble with keepass2 when i wrote that. it always opened on the second display |
| 06:44.12 | pingufan | same here. |
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| 06:45.27 | pingufan | I use the second screen only for unimportant display. If some programs are running long, I drag them to that screen. Therefore it is not on my table |
| 06:47.38 | pingufan | I wonder why this setting is not the default one. |
| 06:49.25 | akik | not enough people testing multi-screen setups |
| 06:50.05 | pingufan | You possibly can kelp me with this issue, too... |
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| 06:52.08 | pingufan | In OKULAR, I can perfectly view PDF files. But when I click on print, they are often printed with replacement fonts and the result is ugly if not unreadable. But when I select "Enforce rasterising", it prints correctly. Can I set this "enforcing" as default? |
| 06:52.29 | akik | absolutely no idea :) |
| 06:53.17 | pingufan | I figured out that a pdf2ps and then printing the .ps does also print correctly, but I do not want to fiddle around in cups. |
| 06:53.18 | akik | there's ~/.config/okularrc maybe it could be defined there |
| 06:55.04 | akik | found this bug about it |
| 06:55.09 | akik | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409938 |
| 06:55.26 | akik | but there's no activity there |
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| 06:59.33 | pingufan | Ah, yes... |
| 07:00.29 | pingufan | It was much more important to remove the KDE screensavers. (chuckle) |
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| 15:18.48 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.18 and KDE Applications 19.12 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
| 15:18.57 | Warxcell | anyone have problem with "Disable touchpad when mouse is plugged in" and bluetooth mouse? |
| 15:21.37 | goodger | one more thing to note: when I switched to a Cinnamon session, that worked normally, until after I took a screenshot of it with Spectacle (which apparently was mapped to PrtSc on Cinnamon, too) and uploaded the screenshot to Imgur |
| 15:21.57 | goodger | (https://i.imgur.com/ishRQT5.jpg / https://i.imgur.com/O9D4Kuk.jpg) |
| 15:22.41 | goodger | so my guess is that Qt is affecting the environment (envars?) in some way that triggers the problem in GTK, but the environment looks normal to me |
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| 15:56.18 | archiebald_the_i | Does anyone usw Kmail? |
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| 15:57.59 | JanKusanagi | someone does =) |
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| 16:01.29 | archiebald_the_i | Obviously, duh^^ |
| 16:01.30 | archiebald_the_i | Anyway I decided to give it a try but have mixed feelings so far. I thought maybe someone would possibly be able to tell me whats so great about it |
| 16:02.00 | asturm | search is the best in industry |
| 16:02.14 | Warxcell | I use it :) |
| 16:02.47 | Warxcell | btw speaking of it - did anyone succeeded in getting it running with gmail ? |
| 16:03.12 | archiebald_the_i | <Warxcell "I use it :)"> Is it just me or is it somewhat more hassle than Thunderbird or evolution to set it up? |
| 16:03.40 | JanKusanagi | I manage a relative's machine with KMail on it, set up for Gmail.com... nothing special about it |
| 16:03.58 | Warxcell | yup I had hard times setting it up for company's mail server, and even more with gmail |
| 16:04.21 | archiebald_the_i | I have no gmail so I didn't try |
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| 16:05.52 | lod__ | I use kmail with my own servers |
| 16:06.25 | Warxcell | JanKusanagi: how you fixed the "Sign in with Google temporarily disabled for this app This app has not been verified yet by Google in order to use Google Sign In." error |
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| 16:06.44 | archiebald_the_i | I'm on posteo and it gave me a huge headache earlier today. Also sent mails get redirected to my local folder? When I reply to a mail the prompt starts at the bottom. These are all minor things but it adds up to being more trouble than I hoped it would be |
| 16:06.47 | JanKusanagi | I never saw that, that machine has simple a pop3 account set up |
| 16:06.57 | JanKusanagi | nothing specific to spymail... |
| 16:07.19 | Warxcell | JanKusanagi: I use IMAP. I don't want to bloat the SSD with mails |
| 16:07.20 | lod__ | archiebald_the_i, you need a bit to get into kmail :) |
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| 16:07.49 | asturm | JanKusanagi: it is an issue for a lot of people. I read a complicated howto of someone who made it possible but forgot the link |
| 16:08.15 | asturm | I just didn't care anymore |
| 16:08.24 | lod__ | archiebald_the_i, I think all your problems are just "wrong" config |
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| 16:10.07 | Warxcell | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404990 |
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| 16:10.59 | archiebald_the_i | <lod__ "archiebald_the_improbable, I thi"> I figure you're right. Thing is, finding out how to config it properly can be annoying as I need to find out how first |
| 16:11.26 | lod__ | yes it is |
| 16:13.01 | lod__ | I used thunderbird and kmail side by side for a while until I got everything like I want it |
| 16:13.19 | archiebald_the_i | I think the config could use some streamlining. |
| 16:13.56 | archiebald_the_i | <lod__ "I used thunderbird and kmail sid"> I'm doing that too until I've figured out if I want to keep kmail |
| 16:15.34 | lod__ | Yes, was the same for me... and sometimes I cried a bit ^^ ... but now I'm very happy with kmail |
| 16:16.14 | lod__ | kmail/kontact |
| 16:16.23 | Warxcell | lol I got it running :) |
| 16:16.28 | archiebald_the_i | OK, I'll see if I can get to that point. I like the look of it and am generally pretty fond of KDE products so far |
| 16:16.42 | Warxcell | using IMAP.GOOGLEMAIL.COM instead imap.gmail.com and use App Password. |
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| 16:20.07 | mattfly | How can i make spectacle remember the last retangular region? |
| 16:20.25 | mattfly | It worked like this to me but i made a fresh install and forgot how to do that |
| 16:21.05 | JanKusanagi | there's a "remember selected area" option right there in the settings |
| 16:22.41 | mattfly | but where are the settings? :P |
| 16:23.39 | mattfly | dolphin is also missing the toolbar |
| 16:23.51 | JanKusanagi | in a very obvious CONFIGURE button... |
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| 16:24.29 | mattfly | in a top toolbar? |
| 16:24.41 | goodger | bottom left |
| 16:24.52 | JanKusanagi | no, in the same row of buttons as Help, tools... |
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| 16:25.43 | mattfly | hm... i dont find that.. |
| 16:26.16 | mattfly | i just have help o nthe bottom leff, no configure under it |
| 16:27.06 | JanKusanagi | you must have a very old version |
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| 16:27.15 | JanKusanagi | then I don't remember, but it's really not hard to find xD |
| 16:27.32 | mattfly | yeah i did this once with this version i just dont remember... |
| 16:27.33 | JanKusanagi | maybe under a "Tools" button submenu |
| 16:27.48 | JanKusanagi | it's not that hard to explore everything, it's a very small program... |
| 16:27.57 | mattfly | yeah i already explored everythin |
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| 16:29.17 | mattfly | ok nevermind.. found it under save |
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| 17:22.02 | djoe-x | Is there a reason, why Debian chose not to use KDE's LTS? |
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| 17:23.16 | asturm | ask Debian that. but if I were to guess, it didn't make it into their release cutoff time |
| 17:24.47 | JanKusanagi | Plasma LTS =) |
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| 17:25.41 | JanKusanagi | considering Debian releases "when it's readyâ¢", but around every ~2+ years, hard for them to match their releases with Plsma LTS releases |
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| 17:37.40 | MrET | Hello ppl!! OMG there is free money and Bitcoin here!! : https://freebitco.in/?r=599908 |
| 17:40.27 | JanKusanagi | ð |
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| 17:41.21 | Velvet | ...i heard that in Billy May's voice |
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| 17:42.29 | makr8100 | Hi! Billy Mays here for Bitcoin! It's free, and we'll tell you how, for 74 easy payments of $19.99! Click that spam link todayyy!!1! |
| 17:42.47 | Velvet | hahahaha |
| 17:42.57 | Dwarf | protip: mimicking spam is a great way to get hammered too |
| 17:43.03 | Velvet | you forgot the all caps |
| 17:43.08 | makr8100 | :| |
| 17:43.40 | Velvet | apply directly to the forehead |
| 17:44.03 | makr8100 | Also Billy Mays did like his k-lines, if k stood for kokaine |
| 17:47.51 | SGOrava | makr8100: Nothing is free, there is always a price |
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| 17:57.38 | sarnold | BILLY MAYS HERE |
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| 18:12.43 | afx_ | Hello everyone ! Any idea how this (https://superuser.com/questions/1131728/kde-taskbar-missing) can be avoided ? |
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| 21:12.03 | kinghat | on 5.18.1 when i log out my monitors are not in the same order as the are(properly) when logged in. |
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| 21:18.53 | mxxto | I would like to keep both panels maximized so they skale with different monitors |
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| 22:33.06 | spaaacesenate-M | Because, despite being Linux's defacto default browser, the affection goes mostly one way and Firefox devs are notoriously slow at supporting and maintaing linux-specific technology. |
| 22:34.10 | spaaacesenate-M | Which is to say, you'll have to compile modified version yourself, or get it from someone else who has. |
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| 22:52.25 | nullthevoid | spaaacesenate-M: do you recommend something? |
| 22:53.46 | spaaacesenate-M | Vivaldi is nice, but not FOSS. It is source available though, meaning that you can view the source and audit it for security and privacy... |
| 22:54.10 | spaaacesenate-M | It still has a really small userbase though. |
| 22:54.31 | spaaacesenate-M | Honestly the browser landscape is pretty bleak these days, IMO. |
| 22:55.51 | spaaacesenate-M | I'm on the Vivaldi boat for now. Good features, good people behind it. And I hope, really really hope, they'll go open source eventually. They're only hurting themselves by not, imo. |
| 22:56.01 | Velvet | loves vivaldi |
| 22:56.20 | Velvet | especially tabs |
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| 23:02.31 | andreiivanovich | Hello :) |
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| 23:33.11 | JanKusanagi | how can you audit a source for security and privacy |
| 23:33.22 | JanKusanagi | if you don't know if the binary you have comes from that source? |
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| 23:34.23 | sarnold | you do indeed need both |
| 23:34.32 | JanKusanagi | nullthevoid: what? if you enable the title bar, you'll have the same window decorations as any other window |
| 23:34.48 | JanKusanagi | if you don't, you'll have Firefox's CSD... yikes |
| 23:35.15 | nullthevoid | JanKusanagi, thank you :D |
| 23:36.07 | nullthevoid | I liked it without title bar, but because I am perfectionist, i don't like different window decoration xD |
| 23:36.28 | JanKusanagi | CSD is cancer |
| 23:36.40 | spaaacesenate[m] | ...hello? |
| 23:36.55 | JanKusanagi | ?olleh... |
| 23:37.16 | spaaacesenate-M | I guess that works. ð |
| 23:37.37 | sarnold | how many space senators do we have? :) |
| 23:37.59 | spaaacesenate-M | I'm multithreaded. |
| 23:38.08 | sarnold | does it hurt? |
| 23:38.50 | spaaacesenate-M | Terribly. I do it for my space constituents though. |
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| 23:39.54 | sarnold | they're lucky to have such a dedicated space servant |
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| 23:40.04 | spaaacesenate-M | Also, Jan, in theory reproducible builds can solve that. |
| 23:40.22 | spaaacesenate-M | Although I don't think Vivaldi provides that yet. |
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| 23:41.18 | lurchi_ | bugs.kde.org - Your comment has been automatically blocked as it is believed to contain spam. Please contact Sysadmin if you believe this to be incorrect. |
| 23:41.21 | lurchi_ | WTF! |
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| 23:44.31 | JanKusanagi | reproducible builds? but can you actually build it yourself? |
| 23:48.32 | lurchi_ | Obviously, "2020-02-18 19:09:50,066" qualifies as spam |
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