| 00:00.04 | asturm | audacious is now qt5 based. |
| 00:01.02 | geigerCounter | Oh that's interesting. |
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| 00:01.53 | geigerCounter | qt5 has been picking up a lot of support, but I'm pretty ignorant of the behind-the-scenes stuff about why. I just know "it's good" basicaly. |
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| 00:08.08 | JanKusanagi | no other reasons needed to move to Qt =) |
| 00:09.56 | geigerCounter | Mhm |
| 00:10.18 | geigerCounter | While I don't want there to be no options, I do think it's a good idea to have a few centralized libraries for as much as possible. |
| 00:10.27 | geigerCounter | You have to have that balance between competition and collaboration |
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| 00:16.02 | geigerCounter | Man, the winamp skins are some nostalgia |
| 00:16.22 | geigerCounter | Speaking of nostalgia, I need to get me the Windows 98 cursors. I kept getting distracted. |
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| 03:07.04 | valorie | although it's been awile since I used FF seriously |
| 03:07.17 | JanKusanagi | not willing to test that to compare xD |
| 03:07.21 | valorie | but neither is KDE software |
| 03:07.29 | valorie | so not really on topic here |
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| 09:59.45 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
| 10:00.34 | Metamorphosis | o/ |
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| 10:03.30 | mamonetti | hi |
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| 10:07.38 | mamonetti | is there any way to add a separator between buttons at the title bar of the windows? this option was available in previous versions (i can't tell for sure which kde version i'm using as i don't see it in any "help / about kde", but i'm using kubuntu 18.04), but looks like it's no longer available |
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| 10:21.08 | markuswet | mamonetti: you can find the KDE/Plasma versions in kinfocenter. But as far as I can't see any separators in Window Decorations either (I'm on Plasma 5.18.3) |
| 10:22.05 | mamonetti | yeah, they're gone :( |
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| 10:37.38 | fiyfyfy | hi |
| 10:37.42 | fiyfyfy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:40.51 | lod__ | fiyfyfy, you should try one of this cpu cooler thingys? |
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| 10:41.49 | mamonetti | xDD |
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| 10:42.50 | fiyfyfy | with runit or openrc 15º less |
| 10:43.11 | fiyfyfy | systemd is crapware |
| 10:43.16 | lod__ | nope |
| 10:43.25 | lod__ | it'\s just the user |
| 10:43.58 | lod__ | but if you don't like it, don't use it |
| 10:44.06 | lod__ | it's your choice |
| 10:44.19 | fiyfyfy | how can i like it a planned obsolescence creator? |
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| 10:45.56 | fiyfyfy | what network-manager uses kde plasma? |
| 10:46.19 | fiyfyfy | when i install i3wm the network applet dissapear |
| 10:46.32 | fiyfyfy | any trick to recover it? |
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| 10:48.00 | theMetamorphosis | Best podcast player for KDE? |
| 10:50.24 | n4mu | Hello. I've 2 concerns with plasma-discover |
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| 10:50.59 | n4mu | 1. It keeps crashing when I'm trying to discover new software. I'm ready to send a bug report (to Debian). I'm using Buster. |
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| 10:51.29 | n4mu | Dr Konqi (sorry if mispelled) proposed to send a bug report, but that also crashed. |
| 10:52.00 | n4mu | I'm not sure if KDE would like me to try to send the report or if it's an already known issue. |
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| 10:52.51 | n4mu | 2. The search function seems odd. I can't find "apper", I can find "thunderbird" (which will also list a bunch of software that has nothing to do with Thunderbird, but at least the first result is pertinent. |
| 10:53.13 | n4mu | But searching for "apper" yields zero results, whereas `apt search apper` shows it's there. |
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| 10:55.05 | n4mu | Generally speaking, I'm a bit sad that Discover and Apper are completely separate. Apper just works (from what I recall), while Discover tends to break quite a lot. Perhaps in non-debian versions things are fixed, if so, that's great. But still, having 2 separate programs is adding to fragmenting users. |
| 10:55.54 | n4mu | I've been installing Apper for users for a while now, and recently they've now discovered Discover, because it's installed by default and has the little "update icon" (which is great), but then it's less stable. |
| 10:56.02 | n4mu | Cheers for reading. |
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| 11:01.34 | BluesKaj | there's also muon, which is still the best reference for package info etc |
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| 11:05.33 | n4mu | BluesKaj: ah, thanks, I forgot about that one (I recall installing it for a friend a while back) |
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| 11:28.30 | lord_rob | Hi! When I boot my PC and KDE starts, it prompts my user password (I have sudo privileges). KDE wants to automount Windows 10 recovery partition (/dev/sda1) in /media How can I disable that? |
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| 13:08.11 | sheen | Hi there, I'm looking for a way to disable transparency when hovering the mouse over panel icons (using icon task manager). I've already disabled translucency in desktop effect but this does not affect the taskbar. Thanks. |
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| 13:10.16 | sheen | Nevermind, I've just found it |
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| 13:11.27 | sheen | Another thing, still when hovering over taskbar icon, preview thumbnails are showed. Sometimes it's the real preview of the applications screen, sometimes it just a big icon but no real preview. Is there a way to get preview for all apps ? |
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| 13:22.29 | allizom | Hi there, I'm adding a network share and I want to save my credentials. is there any way to avoid being shown the username/password dialog every time, even if it is already filled in? |
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| 13:43.04 | allizom | ok, I solved by appending "Prompt on use=False" to ~/.config/kwalletrc |
| 13:43.09 | allizom | bye |
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| 14:52.13 | cornfeedhobo | hello. does kde have a means to hook into events? e.g. I want to execute something every time the user copies? |
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| 15:04.04 | JanKusanagi | I don't think Plasma has a mechanism for that |
| 15:05.47 | JanKusanagi | but for the event of copying specifically, maybe Plasma's Clipboard widget can do something |
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| 16:14.48 | lord_rob | Hi! When I start KDE, it prompts for my user password (as I'm sudo'ed) in order to automount /dev/sda1 to /media /dev/sda1 is windows 10 restore partition if I understand correctly. Anyway I don't want to mount this partition. Is it possible to disable that? |
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| 16:15.36 | lord_rob | I did not have this problem with earlier versions of KDE |
| 16:15.41 | JanKusanagi | (Plasma) |
| 16:16.05 | JanKusanagi | just right-click the device notifier in your system tray |
| 16:16.19 | JanKusanagi | and go to "Configure Removable Devices" |
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| 16:43.49 | lord_rob | JanKusanagi: I'm on this section but I can't configure anything correctly because I can't resize the columns corresponding to the devices ... |
| 16:45.41 | JanKusanagi | there's no need to resize anything |
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| 16:45.53 | JanKusanagi | only the first column could need to grow, and it does if you resize the window |
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| 16:51.58 | lord_rob | hmmm ... indeed but this 100Mb hdd (which corresponds to W10 recovery partition) is not checked to be mounted automatically :-/ |
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| 16:54.25 | lord_rob | maybe I should uncheck the global option? |
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| 16:57.09 | JanKusanagi | I've never used automounting |
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| 17:01.36 | lord_rob | I did not want to and you've shown me how to disable it so thank you |
| 17:01.56 | lord_rob | Let's try if works tho |
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| 17:50.10 | andre_kal_ | Hi, I'll ask my question again in case someone knows something. Is there a way to move windows between activities quickly (as in not 2x2 clicks). And is there a way to make the activities order fixed and not have the current one always first |
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| 18:01.16 | phonecharger | i dont use activities but did you check the dbus commands? |
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| 18:21.09 | joel135 | i can't write ` in kde apps like konsole and kate |
| 18:21.21 | joel135 | but i can in chrome and emacs |
| 18:21.43 | physiology | Hello, I'm on Manjaro 5.5.8-1 and my panel has disappeared. Right click on the desktop and 'Add Panel' does not produce any results. Any thoughts? |
| 18:23.27 | phonecharger | touchscreen keyboard? joel135 |
| 18:24.09 | joel135 | phonecharger: what do you mean? |
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| 18:24.21 | phonecharger | is it a virtual keyboard that you cant write in qt apps? |
| 18:24.30 | phonecharger | or normal physical one |
| 18:24.36 | joel135 | no it is a normal usb one |
| 18:25.00 | joel135 | i can copy-paste ` if i really need to |
| 18:26.11 | joel135 | i am using a swedish keyboard and swedish layout |
| 18:26.26 | joel135 | the layout preview includes ` |
| 18:29.05 | phonecharger | hmmm. dunno, im guessing its something in one of the config files or environment variables maybe |
| 18:29.39 | JanKusanagi | physiology: is your wallpaper still visible? |
| 18:30.07 | physiology | JanKusanagi: Yes, it is still there. It is like the panel was cut off the top of the screen. |
| 18:30.20 | phonecharger | is it set to auto hide? |
| 18:31.36 | physiology | If that means that it would appear when the mouse is near the edge, then no. |
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| 18:33.08 | phonecharger | ages ago i had an issue where i had it set auto hide and it wasnt showing with the mouse at the edge. i think i change dit back to visible in one of the config files |
| 18:34.36 | joel135 | my solution: migrate to emacs :P |
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| 18:38.50 | phonecharger | did you set an QT_IM_MODULE? |
| 18:40.31 | joel135 | no i don't know what it is |
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| 18:43.23 | joel135 | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xu5k7Z7V/ |
| 18:43.34 | joel135 | not sure if this has something to do with it |
| 18:43.50 | phonecharger | env | grep QT? |
| 18:44.07 | joel135 | oh yes QT_IM_MODULE=uim |
| 18:44.15 | phonecharger | whats uim |
| 18:44.19 | phonecharger | do you use it for gtk? |
| 18:44.37 | joel135 | i don't know |
| 18:44.50 | phonecharger | then remove it from wherever you have it set |
| 18:44.58 | joel135 | i guess that is what makes my korean input work |
| 18:45.14 | phonecharger | it works in qt apps? |
| 18:45.26 | joel135 | yes, korean input does work in kate |
| 18:46.03 | phonecharger | i guess you added these? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uim#Usage |
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| 18:46.25 | phonecharger | hmm so korean works on all programs, but english only in gtk? |
| 18:46.51 | phonecharger | is the english also from uim |
| 18:47.15 | joel135 | swedish works everywhere but not ` |
| 18:47.47 | phonecharger | `? |
| 18:48.05 | joel135 | that's the symbol i cannot type in kde apps |
| 18:48.21 | phonecharger | oh |
| 18:48.25 | joel135 | it is located next to backspace |
| 18:49.12 | phonecharger | OH. you meant only cant type this symbol lol not at all |
| 18:49.43 | joel135 | :P |
| 18:49.53 | joel135 | :`P |
| 18:50.44 | joel135 | .xprofile https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5OsaVIIU/ |
| 18:52.56 | phonecharger | https://github.com/uim/uim/issues there are some issues that mention qt |
| 18:53.03 | phonecharger | maybe its similar to this? https://github.com/uim/uim/issues/95 |
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| 18:53.49 | joel135 | yes, grave accent is a dead key |
| 18:55.07 | phonecharger | you can try the patch there if you're ok with building yourself |
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| 19:07.40 | Phruis | when you are removing title bars when windows are maximized and putting the window buttons in the top panel similar to unity, how can you make it so when you double click on the top panel it will also un-maximize the window? |
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| 19:09.22 | phonecharger | not sure about "putting the window buttons in the top panel similar to unity" but latte has a feature where it unmaximizes on double click |
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| 19:10.59 | joel135 | too hard |
| 19:16.58 | Phruis | if(panel == clicked && widget != clicked) { unmaximize window } ? |
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| 19:20.38 | phonecharger | https://phabricator.kde.org/source/latte-dock/browse/master/ lol |
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| 19:23.08 | phonecharger | more specifically https://phabricator.kde.org/source/latte-dock/browse/master/?grep=dragActiveWindowEnabled |
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| 19:58.30 | ryzokuken | hi all! |
| 19:58.53 | ryzokuken | I'm using the global scale property to set a global scale factor, but it isn't scaling GTK apps properly. |
| 19:59.10 | ryzokuken | currently affects Steam, Lutris and Spotify. |
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| 20:34.23 | Phruis | if you wanna scale GTK apps do export GDK_SCALE=1 |
| 20:34.38 | Phruis | then export GDK_DPI_SCALE=1.8 |
| 20:34.45 | Phruis | and fiddle with it how you like |
| 20:34.49 | Phruis | that is my settings |
| 20:34.56 | Phruis | ryzokuken, ^ |
| 20:35.36 | ryzokuken | Phruis: where do I set it? |
| 20:35.41 | phonecharger | GTK*? |
| 20:35.42 | ryzokuken | `~/.profile`? |
| 20:35.54 | Phruis | .bashrc or .profile will work I believe |
| 20:35.58 | ryzokuken | No, I think it's GDK |
| 20:36.05 | ryzokuken | Phruis: I don't use bash |
| 20:36.11 | ryzokuken | dunno if fish calls `.profile` |
| 20:36.18 | Phruis | ok well whatever you use |
| 20:36.30 | phonecharger | the dm would need to call .profile not shell |
| 20:37.12 | ryzokuken | okay |
| 20:37.23 | ryzokuken | but bash prof is specific to bash, no? |
| 20:39.08 | phonecharger | depends |
| 20:39.23 | phonecharger | actually probably |
| 20:40.15 | phonecharger | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xprofile you can read the Xsession file for your dm to see what it actually sources |
| 20:44.10 | phonecharger | or wayland-session file |
| 20:44.35 | ryzokuken | I'm on X. |
| 20:44.55 | ryzokuken | Wayland has decent fractional scaling support everywhere |
| 20:45.22 | ryzokuken | but it seems like Plasma is the only DE with decent fractional scaling support on Xorg |
| 20:45.27 | ryzokuken | with the global setting |
| 20:45.37 | ryzokuken | GNOME 3 on Xorg makes me wanna cry :( |
| 20:45.52 | phonecharger | oh no, wanna cry is a malware |
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| 20:48.47 | JanKusanagi | Plasma rox =) |
| 20:55.18 | ryzokuken | phonecharger: lol |
| 20:55.21 | ryzokuken | JanKusanagi: ikr |
| 20:55.44 | phonecharger | do emoticons not work in konversation? |
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| 20:55.54 | ryzokuken | people on #archlinux keep calling they scaling thing a "dirty hack" but I think that's elitist af |
| 20:56.05 | ryzokuken | you know, it's a hack that I need to work! |
| 20:56.18 | JanKusanagi | what kind of "emoticons"? |
| 20:56.27 | JanKusanagi | the word is quite ambiguous =) |
| 20:56.35 | phonecharger | kde ones, i figured emoji doesnt work in irc |
| 20:56.42 | JanKusanagi | Emoji works on IRC |
| 20:56.47 | phonecharger | i thought maybe i would use it for once |
| 20:56.49 | phonecharger | it does? |
| 20:56.53 | JanKusanagi | sure it does |
| 20:57.03 | JanKusanagi | ð |
| 20:57.07 | JanKusanagi | or rather, they do |
| 20:57.16 | phonecharger | i see blank |
| 20:59.50 | JanKusanagi | then you don't have the proper fonts |
| 21:00.06 | JanKusanagi | which is what Emoji are, certain Unicode characters in a font |
| 21:03.19 | thiago | I see an emoji and the text renderer application is Konsole |
| 21:03.52 | phonecharger | hmm. i managed to get it in emoji picker and firefox but not konversation, kate or konsole |
| 21:04.29 | JanKusanagi | Firefox provides its own emoji font |
| 21:04.45 | JanKusanagi | you need to install some emoji font for your system |
| 21:05.02 | phonecharger | i use joypixels |
| 21:05.04 | phonecharger | also in firefox |
| 21:05.18 | JanKusanagi | I don't know that that is, but my advice still stands xD |
| 21:05.24 | JanKusanagi | *what that is |
| 21:05.24 | phonecharger | its emojione |
| 21:05.30 | thiago | to be clear, I see a black-and-white emoji |
| 21:05.38 | thiago | not a colourful one people are used to |
| 21:05.41 | phonecharger | eww symbola |
| 21:06.00 | JanKusanagi | well, what people see depend on what fonts people have |
| 21:06.02 | troffasky | monoji |
| 21:07.01 | troffasky | i use a fairly small font in konversation, if it rendered them as colourful icons large enough to actually distinguish what they're supposed to be, it would mess up the surrounding text |
| 21:07.18 | phonecharger | i also have emoji in gedit so i guess it has to do with qt |
| 21:08.45 | phonecharger | my kde neon vm also doesnt have emoji in kate :| |
| 21:09.12 | JanKusanagi | do you *have* an emoji font installed? |
| 21:09.17 | phonecharger | nvermind it does |
| 21:09.28 | phonecharger | i told you i have joypixels lol its a font |
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| 21:13.50 | phonecharger | i'll figure something out |
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| 21:51.49 | ryzokuken | oh, one thing. |
| 21:51.58 | ryzokuken | emojis in my emoji selector broke |
| 21:52.06 | ryzokuken | I did absolutely nothing |
| 21:52.35 | ryzokuken | same thing as thiago |
| 21:52.38 | ryzokuken | black and white |
| 21:52.43 | ryzokuken | and missing certain glyphs |
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| 22:01.18 | phonecharger | for the selector i gave up and specifically gave it different font setting so it'll work perfectly, but since it works just fine out of the box in neon, it should be a matter of copying over the fontconfig or something |
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