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| 06:29.07 | Nomenclatura | Hi. So... powersettings are being ignored since like a couple of months now |
| 06:29.43 | Nomenclatura | I have three systems and it is the same thing in all of them. Whatever I configure in power settings is overriden by.... something |
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| 08:49.27 | openbsdtai123 | hi |
| 08:50.13 | openbsdtai123 | is it possible that KDE runs fast and well on Slackware? and that is runs very slow on ubuntu and debian? |
| 08:56.48 | covidian | havent tried slack in decades |
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| 09:07.43 | troffasky | i am sure it is possible to misconfigure it in such a way that makes that true, yes |
| 09:08.38 | covidian | like I run KDE with ZFS as root-fs and it is slow as hell. |
| 09:08.53 | covidian | Beer load [ \ ] 22% |
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| 09:19.32 | openbsdtai123 | covidian: maybe the slow kde comes from debian. debian are ubuntu are polluted os nowadays, quite slow. |
| 09:23.11 | covidian | did /join the #revolution ! |
| 09:24.57 | rindolf | openbsdtai123: hi, kde runs fast enough on mageia 8 x64 on an old sandy bridge core i3 machine |
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| 09:26.10 | openbsdtai123 | i3 wow that's a beast ! of course it runs on that. try a pentium III ;) |
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| 09:28.00 | asturm | PIII will have more issues browsing the web than running Plasma |
| 09:28.07 | openbsdtai123 | links2 |
| 09:29.19 | openbsdtai123 | kde itself is fine and rapid, but QT takes a lot of resource. |
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| 09:31.11 | asturm | that's a convoluted statement |
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| 09:33.46 | openbsdtai123 | ah more accurately the size of qt 5 is quite huge today, about 800 MB on devuan/debian base for some dev. |
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| 09:38.30 | asturm | see, it's important to be precise. now, that makes no statement about performance at all, and in terms of storage space that is nothing |
| 09:40.30 | openbsdtai123 | yeah, it is called to be "specific" or to have "concrete example". If one compare on same hardware, same /dev/sda1 with same devices, it maybe be well compared. |
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| 09:46.02 | rebecca | i run KDE via kubuntu 18.04.4 LTS and a recent update has left me with weird click/drag bugs in the GUI interface. |
| 09:55.55 | rindolf | rebecca: hi |
| 09:56.29 | rindolf | rebecca: did you set the invoke to "on double click"? |
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| 10:19.25 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
| 10:23.13 | nsaagent43 | how do i launch a script from konsole with keyboard shortcut |
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| 10:23.13 | nsaagent43 | i tried konsole -e /path/to/script |
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| 10:24.50 | rebecca | rindolf: nope. but might that explain it? |
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| 10:25.33 | rindolf | rebecca: yes |
| 10:25.39 | covidian | nsaagent43: like with F4 ? |
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| 10:26.02 | rindolf | rebecca: see "systemsettings5" - the control panel |
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| 10:26.37 | nsaagent43 | covidian, i know how to set it up i dont know the command i used konsole -e /path/to/script |
| 10:26.45 | nsaagent43 | it doesn't work |
| 10:27.41 | troffasky | do you want it to run in the existing tab or start a new konsole? |
| 10:27.53 | nsaagent43 | new konsole |
| 10:28.22 | troffasky | so what happens when you try it? nothing at all? |
| 10:28.50 | nsaagent43 | i got this error |
| 10:28.55 | rebecca | rindolf: hm, i don't see invoke in the settings |
| 10:29.04 | nsaagent43 | Warning: Could not find '.path/to/script', starting '/usr/bin/zsh' instead. Please check your profile settings. |
| 10:29.18 | rindolf | rebecca: search for "click| |
| 10:29.20 | rindolf | rebecca: search for "click" |
| 10:29.45 | rebecca | ok |
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| 10:30.40 | covidian | konsole -e python # works |
| 10:31.03 | covidian | but bash terminates |
| 10:31.08 | troffasky | it's assuming that that path is a shell you want to execute, i think |
| 10:31.33 | troffasky | because if i pass it a script as an argument i get an execve format error |
| 10:32.03 | troffasky | oh, putting the right shebang at the top fixes that |
| 10:32.11 | covidian | check konsole profile in konsole menu nsaagent43 |
| 10:33.28 | troffasky | it needs to be a) executable and b) have the right shebang |
| 10:33.48 | troffasky | otherwise you get misleading error messages |
| 10:33.51 | nsaagent43 | i have the script in my $PATH it laucnhes a new konsole when i type konsole -e script in existing shell |
| 10:34.18 | nsaagent43 | but closes immedialtely when i use shortcut |
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| 10:34.47 | troffasky | put a sleep on the end, you might be able to see what the error is |
| 10:35.01 | rebecca | rindolf: "Window Management" or "Input Devices"? |
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| 10:36.57 | nsaagent43 | closed imeediately again troffasky |
| 10:38.24 | nsaagent43 | Warning: Could not find 'script', starting '/usr/bin/zsh' instead. Please check your profile settings. |
| 10:38.30 | nsaagent43 | getting this error now |
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| 10:39.47 | rindolf | rebecca: i have it under "workspace behavior" |
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| 10:44.16 | rindolf | openbsdtai123: well, my old Pentium 4 2.4Ghz died |
| 10:44.37 | rebecca | rindolf: i don't think i'm seeing what you are. i can't find anything that matches your description in the settings |
| 10:45.05 | lestofante-M | hi guys, i have an issue with, i think, konsole. If i paste using ctrl+shift+v or shift+ins all is fine, UNLESS i press ctrl+v before, then what i get is ^[[200~ TEXT ~ where TEXT is my original message |
| 10:45.11 | rindolf | rebecca: did you run "systemsettings5" in konsole? |
| 10:45.28 | lestofante-M | looks like the "bracketed paste mode" is somehow screw up? |
| 10:45.54 | rebecca | rindolf: yes. and that loads 'system settings' |
| 10:47.04 | rindolf | rebecca: ah |
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| 10:53.44 | rebecca | it's weird. clicking and holding on scroll bars does scroll, but only after i release and then only about 5 pixels worth, regardless of the magnitude of drag |
| 10:54.42 | rebecca | click and drag highlighting of text does happen about 50% of the time but it never selects the region i intended. |
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| 10:59.55 | openbsdtai123 | rindolf: resurrection with it a rpi raspberry to make it a new ...life ? |
| 11:00.19 | openbsdtai123 | rindolf: I would like old kde 1.x for my raspberry. this maybe work |
| 11:03.14 | rindolf | openbsdtai123: kde 1.x? it is no longer maintained |
| 11:04.33 | asturm | openbsdtai123: I gave you the repository links to it |
| 11:04.36 | asturm | days ago. |
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| 11:11.45 | openbsdtai123 | I compiled the old QT. partially. |
| 11:12.01 | asturm | what do you want to do with QuickTime? |
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| 11:12.28 | openbsdtai123 | I took several libs of qt of this early qt version, but it takes too long to modify qt to make it work. |
| 11:13.17 | openbsdtai123 | so, I havent managed to compile kde 1. |
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| 11:13.54 | asturm | you could pay someone, if you can't do it yourself |
| 11:16.16 | troffasky | sounds like an epic waste of effort |
| 11:16.31 | asturm | indeed. |
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| 11:20.21 | troffasky | i am going to hazard a guess that Qt on ARM wasn't really a thing 25y ago |
| 11:22.49 | rindolf | openbsdtai123: https://passy.svbtle.com/building-vim-from-1993-today |
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| 11:24.28 | rebecca | back. my mouse click weirdness got so bad i had to reboot |
| 11:24.39 | rindolf | rebecca: ah |
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| 11:25.33 | rebecca | rindolf: what were you directing me to? |
| 11:25.47 | rindolf | rebecca: systemsettings5 |
| 11:26.01 | rebecca | yes, but what exactly IN it? |
| 11:26.19 | rindolf | rebecca: double click to open files |
| 11:26.36 | rebecca | but it's not just related to opening files |
| 11:26.47 | rebecca | it's all sorts of click related interfaces |
| 11:27.19 | rebecca | like tabs in a browser not registering clicks and scroll bars being broken and drag and drop being ignored |
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| 11:28.51 | rindolf | rebecca: ah, can you try a different wm such as icewm? |
| 11:29.14 | rindolf | rebecca: does it happen in a new unix user? |
| 11:29.57 | rebecca | i'll try a new users first and see what happens |
| 11:31.10 | rindolf | rebecca: ok |
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| 11:40.13 | rebecca | that is so weird... i switched the physical mouse and problem is gone... but.. i don't understand how a dodgy mouse results in the problems i was having. like text highlighting entirely wrong areas |
| 11:41.19 | rebecca | the mouse in question has a bunch of stupid extra buttons so maybe it was sending multiple or different _types_ of click? i'm so confused |
| 11:43.21 | rebecca | thanks rindolf |
| 11:44.02 | rindolf | rebecca: you're welcome |
| 11:45.16 | rebecca | i still suspect this is related to an update but honestly.. i need to upgrade this OS anyway |
| 11:45.41 | rebecca | i'll live with basic microsoft scroll mouse for now :) |
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| 12:50.48 | mark4 | trying to add my printer, it is in the discovered network printer list but when i select it to be added the "finish" button is grayed out and the address and queue fields are blank. am i supposed to know what to put in those? |
| 12:51.13 | mark4 | the detect button is also grayed out |
| 12:57.14 | mark4 | even after i find the printers ip because kde is too stupid to get that info itself (WHY???) everything is still grayed out |
| 12:57.39 | mark4 | how the fsck are mere mortals supposed to be able to print anythink in kde? |
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| 13:01.23 | jankusanagi_ | in who? =) |
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| 13:04.36 | mark4 | im trying to add a printer |
| 13:04.43 | mark4 | i use the tool, it FINDS the printer |
| 13:04.55 | mark4 | but its too freeking stupid to find out what its IP address is |
| 13:05.16 | mark4 | so i had to go to my routers page and search the connections list for the printer |
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| 13:05.24 | mark4 | i know its address now. |
| 13:05.41 | mark4 | well i CANNOT add the damned printer because the "finish" button in the freeking tool is grayed out |
| 13:06.18 | mark4 | theres a blank field called "queue" and i have no fucking idea whata that is and the KDE printers page is totally out of date, shit doesnt even look like that any more |
| 13:06.26 | mark4 | theres a detect button but thats grayed out too |
| 13:06.31 | mark4 | how the fuck do you add printers here |
| 13:09.29 | troffasky | where is "here"? |
| 13:09.36 | troffasky | "Printers" thing? |
| 13:09.50 | troffasky | you'll be thrilled to hear that it's working for me |
| 13:10.21 | troffasky | i just added an "EPSON XP-442 445 Series" |
| 13:10.42 | mark4 | oh it finds my wifi connected printer |
| 13:10.59 | mark4 | but it is too moronic to find its IP address and fill that in. and even after i populate that field |
| 13:11.04 | mark4 | the damned finish button is grayed out |
| 13:11.19 | mark4 | what the FUCK do i put in the "queue" filed. how the FUCK am i supposed to know what that is? |
| 13:11.19 | troffasky | like i said, works for me, found Epson on the network |
| 13:11.29 | mark4 | seriously how am i supposed to add a printer? |
| 13:11.58 | mark4 | does not seem to matter what i put in that one blank field the finish button is LOCKED |
| 13:12.26 | mark4 | and the damned KDE web page on adding printers is no help the damned tool does not even look anything like the documentation |
| 13:12.48 | mark4 | like i said, the tool FINDS the damned printer |
| 13:12.52 | mark4 | it just wont fucking let me add it |
| 13:13.30 | mark4 | it also forced me to browse my wifi router and see what devices are connected to it just to get the fucking IP address of the printer |
| 13:13.38 | mark4 | because the tool is too stupid to get that info itself |
| 13:13.43 | mark4 | how do i add this printer |
| 13:14.34 | mark4 | idiotic annoyances like this are why i refused to install plasma for years, the only reason i even installed it this time is because there is no maintainer for cinnamon desktop in gentoo amy more |
| 13:15.21 | troffasky | cinnamon gentoo maintainer probably gave up after hearing too many user rants |
| 13:15.54 | mark4 | never had a rant about cinnamon because it never had these stupid "quirks" |
| 13:16.31 | mark4 | i have my printer in the discovered network printers list. the damned tool FINDS IT!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:16.39 | mark4 | but i cannot add that printer |
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| 13:19.01 | mark4 | so what am i supposed to put in the blank "queue" field here? |
| 13:19.14 | mark4 | nothing i put in there unlocks the finish button |
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| 13:24.57 | openbsdtai123 | rindolf: you can easily compile Unix BSD v5 today on Linux ... if the code is make to be C and on limited function. c++ is hard task to compile on modern tech |
| 13:25.13 | openbsdtai123 | thank you for the link… tghis is intereessting |
| 13:25.59 | openbsdtai123 | I compile vim 8.1 from src. never tried vim 1.2 yet. I used to compile vi - the original but finaly I made it myself. |
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| 13:26.54 | rindolf | openbsdtai123: what is BSD v5? BSD went up to 4.4BSD |
| 13:27.25 | openbsdtai123 | unix pdp v5 . thanks for correction |
| 13:28.47 | rindolf | openbsdtai123: pdp? |
| 13:28.54 | rindolf | PDP-11? |
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| 13:30.55 | openbsdtai123 | I dont know which one, there is on unix museum the unix v.5. most of the base compiles well on linux |
| 13:31.29 | openbsdtai123 | date, dd, ... stuffs small and simple. |
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| 14:22.42 | openbsdtai123 | hi tehere is a mistake in katomic. H-O-H H2O the angle is not 180Â deg. |
| 14:23.13 | jankusanagi_ | bugs.kde.org |
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| 15:13.47 | Lope | is it possible to disable the KDE Daemon's low disk space warning for a specific mountpoint? |
| 15:14.19 | Lope | I've got the compositor disabled in the settings, but it seems to enable itself sometimes, which breaks x2go. |
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| 15:14.38 | Lope | Is it possible to disable it in a more serious way? |
| 15:16.37 | Bitterblue | Lope: Maybe you can replace the window manager if you don't find another solution. |
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| 15:17.46 | Lope | Bitterblue, regarding the compositor enabling itself? |
| 15:18.02 | Lope | nah, I wouldn't give up KDE. There's always a way, in Linux. |
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| 15:18.33 | troffasky | eh? replacing kwin is not giving up KDE |
| 15:19.26 | JanKusanagi | nice people |
| 15:19.27 | Lope | troffasky, this is a bit beyond my understanding, as far as I was aware, KDE plasma and kwin are all one system? |
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| 15:19.58 | JanKusanagi | KWin is Plasma's window manager, but you can use others |
| 15:20.17 | Lope | so is KWin the thing that optionally does compositing? |
| 15:20.17 | JanKusanagi | of course you won't have the full functionality brought by KWin =) |
| 15:20.28 | JanKusanagi | KWin does compositing in Plasma, yes |
| 15:20.45 | Lope | I really like kwin though. |
| 15:21.15 | Bitterblue | What do you like about it? |
| 15:21.18 | Lope | KWin's XRender compositor seems to be incompatible with x2go |
| 15:21.39 | Lope | Bitterblue, how you can arrange and move windows with the keyboard etc. |
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| 15:22.26 | Lope | set things always on top, and also change the opacity of things. however the opacity adjustment isn't possible without the compositor running. |
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| 15:25.06 | troffasky | maybe it would be worth raising a feature request with x2go about invoking whatever the "Allow applications to block compositing" thing is |
| 15:27.41 | asturm | maybe it is a buggy old version of x2go? |
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| 15:32.59 | Lope | troffasky, JanKusanagi, asterix1324-M, Bitterblue: if I press F1 in Libreoffice calc, that opens some weird tmp Konqueror URL which starts the compositor, which makes x2go die. |
| 15:33.33 | Lope | even though the compositor is set to not start automatically on boot or whatever. |
| 15:33.53 | Lope | troffasky, good idea. |
| 15:34.23 | JanKusanagi | my LibreOffice just launches its own help via F1 |
| 15:35.12 | troffasky | if you don't have it installed, it wants to read it in a browser |
| 15:35.25 | asturm | so basically notifications start the compositor for you? |
| 15:35.29 | troffasky | no |
| 15:35.32 | troffasky | starting konqueror |
| 15:35.49 | troffasky | he probably chose browser and ticked "don't ask again" |
| 15:35.55 | troffasky | now pressing F1 launches konqueror |
| 15:35.56 | asturm | but why would konqueror do that |
| 15:36.04 | asturm | of all things |
| 15:36.38 | asturm | I was thinking of the notification popup you see while it downloads the url content to establish the application to start |
| 15:36.51 | asturm | but I may have a much older version of Plasma in my head |
| 15:37.03 | troffasky | ahh, maybe that is trying to be transparent |
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| 15:37.17 | troffasky | although i'm sure lots of other things would fire that as well |
| 15:37.43 | asturm | that would be in line with the low disk space notification popup |
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| 15:38.17 | asturm | so we're talking fighting symptoms rather curing the disable-compositor-function |
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| 15:58.53 | pa | since plasma seems dead, i ask here: Anyone experiencing exploding plasma when using remote desktop applications, such as rdesktop or Real VNC client x64? |
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| 15:59.28 | pa | im testing in gnome, and gnome doesnt explode. In plasma after max 5min it explodes |
| 15:59.42 | asturm | pa: plasma is a devel channel, and for many devs today is a holiday. |
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| 16:00.18 | pa | asturm, i thought that kde was a hobby project, no paid developers? |
| 16:00.46 | asturm | it is a day job for a few people |
| 16:00.46 | pa | i'd be happy if that changed |
| 16:01.30 | troffasky | what does "explode" mean? |
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| 16:02.05 | troffasky | I run an RDP client half the day [and have been for >10y] and don't notice any general issue with it |
| 16:02.18 | pa | troffasky, it means i get kicked back to login screen |
| 16:02.56 | pa | so i'm using version 5.16.5 |
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| 16:03.15 | pa | i will try using ubuntu 20.04LTS asap, to try to reproduce it there |
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| 17:14.01 | lord_alveric-M | Plasma has always been as unstable as my Ex. :) |
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| 17:14.19 | lord_alveric-M | I use the following script to restart Plasma when it misbehaves: |
| 17:14.20 | lord_alveric-M | sent a long message: < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.org/lYuLVbxdcXIYHHmicewCOwey > |
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| 17:15.33 | lord_alveric-M | With Kubuntu 20.04, I've been having audio issues as well. |
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| 17:25.04 | jankusanagi_ | interesting comparison |
| 17:25.22 | jankusanagi_ | for me, Plasma has always been as *stable* as my ex xD |
| 17:26.17 | jankusanagi_ | and that script doesn't restart Plasma, for the record, just plasmashell |
| 17:26.22 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma Desktop is much more than that |
| 17:26.31 | jankusanagi_ | also, kquitapp5 is a thing |
| 17:30.40 | rdieter | lord_alveric-M: even better, one command: plasmashell --replace |
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| 17:31.49 | quantum | Has anyone figured out the proper and current way to enable tap to click and natural scroll? That is, without involving X? |
| 17:32.13 | quantum | I have searched and searched and faile dand failed. CentOS8, Plasma5. |
| 17:32.33 | quantum | There is no more Touchpad in systemsettings. I can hardly use this thing. |
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| 17:33.04 | asturm | but there is touchpad for me in systemsettings |
| 17:33.19 | Fuchs | probably lacking the package that provides it |
| 17:33.39 | Fuchs | not sure which one that is on CentOS though, I'm surprised to see plasma on it to even start with |
| 17:33.57 | Fuchs | last time I checked they threw out everything != Gnome, and even that is rarely used, as CentOS doesn't really aim at desktops |
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| 17:34.20 | rdieter | quantum: assume you installed plasma from epel repo? |
| 17:35.08 | rdieter | Fuchs: ^^ if so, that's maintained by community contributors, not RH/core stuff |
| 17:35.17 | Fuchs | ah, righto |
| 17:35.24 | Fuchs | then we'd just need to find the package that provides the touchpad kcm |
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| 17:39.04 | rdieter | Fuchs: should be included in standard install (part of plasma-desktop) |
| 17:39.16 | Fuchs | odd, then |
| 17:39.26 | rdieter | quantum: systemsettings search box "touchpad", finds nothing? |
| 17:40.33 | quantum | Nothing. And there doesn't seem to be a kcm. https://paste.centos.org/view/8b70bb62 |
| 17:40.49 | rdieter | hrm, looks like epel8/centos8 doesn't provide the synaptics library, something the touchpad kcm requires |
| 17:41.21 | rdieter | so indeed that piece will be missing until that is resolved |
| 17:41.22 | asturm | rdieter: only one header at build time; at runtime, it also works with xf86-input-libinput |
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| 17:42.07 | rdieter | asturm: looks like it doesn't build at all if that dep is missing at buildtime though |
| 17:42.30 | asturm | oh, for sure not. that's why I recently went through the trouble of bundling those headers |
| 17:42.44 | asturm | it basically uses properties headers from -evdev, -libinput, -synaptics at build time, but does not depend on them at runtime |
| 17:43.17 | asturm | touchpad kcm in particular will use either libinput or synaptics depending on what is available |
| 17:43.35 | rdieter | asturm: when you say "I ... bundled those headers" , where did you do that work? (pardon my ignorance) |
| 17:43.51 | asturm | downstream source package |
| 17:43.55 | asturm | (Gentoo) |
| 17:44.08 | rdieter | k, upstream please. :) |
| 17:44.19 | asturm | pulling in those drivers for build is a pain when synaptics then overrides libinput at runtime |
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| 17:45.27 | asturm | I was thinking about it, but my instincts were against animating an upstream to bundle something ;) |
| 17:46.52 | asturm | rdieter: easy hack I use right now: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/kde.git/tree/kde-plasma/plasma-desktop/files/plasma-desktop-5.18.4.1-override-include-dirs.patch |
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| 17:49.02 | rdieter | asturm: thanks, then I assume you manually set Evdev_INCLUDE_DIRS (and others)? |
| 17:49.17 | asturm | exactly |
| 17:49.23 | rdieter | sneaky |
| 17:50.58 | rdieter | quantum: I'll pull that work by asturm in, so that next batch of epel builds should have this fixed (rebased for rhel/centos 8.2) |
| 17:51.14 | asturm | these properties headers were all not updated upstream for years, maybe plasma is open to add them, who knows, after checking licence |
| 17:51.18 | quantum | Ty. |
| 17:52.50 | Fuchs | rdieter: oh, you are an EPEL packager? |
| 17:53.16 | Fuchs | rdieter: if so: only KDE stuff, or also other? |
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| 17:57.02 | rdieter | Fuchs: I work on fedora mostly, but epel sync's from fedora's packaging for the most part |
| 17:57.29 | rdieter | (wrt plasma in this context) |
| 17:57.59 | Fuchs | may I query quickly? |
| 17:58.05 | rdieter | ok |
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| 18:07.23 | asturm | rdieter: you'll need a second patch for <plasma-desktop-5.19 though |
| 18:07.55 | asturm | that one is upstreamed already. https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/kde.git/tree/kde-plasma/plasma-desktop/files/plasma-desktop-5.18.4.1-synaptics-header.patch |
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| 18:18.02 | viewer|26 | helo to all ... pleace help me whit this link and register a new account ... https://it.forgeofempires.com/?invitation=3714962-it8-l&ref=player_invite_link |
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| 18:21.30 | viewer|26 | i have installed a new release kubuntu 20.04 .... after installation is all okay .... |
| 18:22.36 | viewer|26 | maybe i have remoded e purge in ctrl+alt-f1 the nvidia-340 driver whit default installation and have send the command apt-get autoremove ..... |
| 18:24.17 | viewer|26 | now in the next reboot of OS have installed the new drver nvidia 340.82 x64_64 maybe have an error in xorg.log whitout unable file screen found .... |
| 18:26.01 | viewer|26 | the question is i have a black screen , no many video driver is load in the next reboot and my usb wi-fi tp-link rtl8192eu no work and i not have internet connection after reboot ... |
| 18:26.21 | viewer|26 | sorry for my bad english .... |
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| 18:55.55 | mr_sm1th | Since the last update when I paste in Konsole, every newline is doubled. Does anyone else have this problem? |
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| 18:56.30 | mr_sm1th | Oh, Firefox seems to be the problem. |
| 18:58.03 | jankusanagi_ | for the record, "the last update" doesn't mean much |
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| 19:07.46 | mr_sm1th | Well, I didn't update in a while. |
| 19:07.50 | mr_sm1th | My last update rather. :) |
| 19:08.13 | jankusanagi_ | still means very little |
| 19:08.32 | jankusanagi_ | not everyone here will be using your same OS, which you didn't even mention =) |
| 19:08.40 | mr_sm1th | I went from 19.12.2 to 20.04.0 |
| 19:08.54 | mr_sm1th | Arch Linux |
| 19:09.17 | jankusanagi_ | versions of Konsole _are_ meaningful =) |
| 19:09.26 | mr_sm1th | Those versions are Konsole. |
| 19:10.15 | mr_sm1th | It doesn't happen with Xterm so it's really Konsole. |
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| 19:18.00 | sirriffsalothp | Hi! I recently started using KDE Plasma and love it so far! I'm trying to get autostart working, however, and when I try to check something to autostart, I can't apply the settings (button remains gray), and when I re-open the window they're unchecked again.. Any ideas? |
| 19:19.16 | valorie | sirriffsalothp: you could have some permissions problems in your $HOME if your settings aren't saving properly |
| 19:19.27 | valorie | you might chown your home just in case |
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| 19:19.40 | sirriffsalothp | valorie: odd.. this isn't a problem on other DE's, but I'll try, hang on |
| 19:20.51 | sirriffsalothp | Brb |
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| 19:22.31 | sirriffsalothp | valorie: nope, still the same problem :-/ |
| 19:22.48 | jankusanagi_ | I don't have any "Apply" button in the Autostart module |
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| 19:23.21 | jankusanagi_ | but if I enable or disable the checkbox for the things in there and go to somewhere else and back, the change remains |
| 19:23.26 | jankusanagi_ | what's your version of Plasma? |
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| 19:23.54 | sirriffsalothp | jankusanagi_: latest stable one for Ubuntu releases |
| 19:24.05 | sirriffsalothp | Humm lemme check |
| 19:24.17 | jankusanagi_ | launch KInfoCenter |
| 19:24.31 | sirriffsalothp | jankusanagi_: 5:104ubuntu1 |
| 19:24.36 | jankusanagi_ | that's not a think |
| 19:24.37 | jankusanagi_ | launch KInfoCenter |
| 19:24.41 | jankusanagi_ | *a thing |
| 19:24.53 | sirriffsalothp | Ah, lol. It's 5.16.5 |
| 19:25.02 | jankusanagi_ | ok, old enough to have changed |
| 19:25.19 | sirriffsalothp | jankusanagi_: ? |
| 19:25.35 | jankusanagi_ | that my version is much newer, so it makes sense that it's different |
| 19:25.55 | sirriffsalothp | jankusanagi_: I could just get the newest version, might be better on the whole anyhow |
| 19:26.02 | jankusanagi_ | as a workaround, you can just dump .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart |
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| 19:26.07 | jankusanagi_ | the XDG standard place for that |
| 19:26.37 | sirriffsalothp | Yeah I saw that too, thought it was odd that the GUI was so buggy, gonna try it |
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| 19:26.58 | jankusanagi_ | it's not buggy here =) |
| 19:27.33 | jankusanagi_ | the enable/disable checkbox requires writing to the .desktop files there, are you sure they're writable? |
| 19:27.53 | asturm | must...remember...not...rightclick...yakuake |
| 19:27.55 | jankusanagi_ | unchecking, specifically, would add "Hidden=true" to that .desktop |
| 19:28.01 | jankusanagi_ | poor asturm |
| 19:28.11 | sirriffsalothp | So I copied catia (a program) from /user/bin/catia to .config/autostart |
| 19:28.14 | sirriffsalothp | That should do it? |
| 19:28.24 | jankusanagi_ | I'm really avoiding that, but I'm using Konsole for any long/important stuff xD |
| 19:28.42 | jankusanagi_ | no sirriffsalothp, you need to copy a *launcher*, not the binary |
| 19:28.45 | jankusanagi_ | a .desktop file |
| 19:28.48 | sirriffsalothp | Oh lol |
| 19:29.11 | sirriffsalothp | Where do I find these .desktop files? |
| 19:29.20 | jankusanagi_ | for programs installed via common means, they're usually already made, and located under /usr/share/applications/ |
| 19:29.29 | sirriffsalothp | Aah of course |
| 19:29.43 | jankusanagi_ | though this one you mention sounds like some proprietary software that's probably not installed by common means... |
| 19:29.51 | jankusanagi_ | and might not bring a .desktop |
| 19:30.25 | sirriffsalothp | It's odd though, all the desktop programs are already there... |
| 19:30.28 | sirriffsalothp | files* |
| 19:30.59 | sirriffsalothp | Tried moving a fresh one, let's see, rebooting |
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| 19:33.21 | sirriffsalothp | That seems to have done the trick, have to try with the rest later though, might just get the latest version anyway |
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| 19:33.59 | sirriffsalothp | Thanks! :) One more thing.. my widgets on top (clock and speaker-icon) keeps moving back to where it was originally. I try moving them to the other side, then locking the widgets, but when I restart they go back to the same place |
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| 19:35.33 | sirriffsalothp | Ah I migh have just moved them instead of setting the spacer in place, that might have done the trick |
| 19:35.47 | sirriffsalothp | So to get the latest KDE Plasma, do I just get it off the website? |
| 19:35.55 | sirriffsalothp | Or is there a PPA for it? |
| 19:37.07 | jankusanagi_ | you should ask your distribution about it |
| 19:38.46 | Shadow53-M | Considering you asked about PPAs, look at kubuntu-backports |
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| 19:40.56 | sirriffsalothp | It looks like installing a newer version than this might invite even more trouble with debian-based systems as they're still somewhat unstable. I'll stick with this for now. Thanks all :) You're almost rivaling my love of the Enlightenment DE |
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| 20:37.33 | azlev | Hi. Dumb question. Usually, when I select a item in clipboard, a popup appears with entries around my selection, but it stops to appear and I don't know how to debug. Can someone help me? |
| 20:42.21 | sarnold | hey azlev :) |
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| 20:43.02 | azlev | sarnold: hi. I didnt expect you here |
| 20:43.45 | sarnold | azlev: heh, honestly I can't recall now why I joined |
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| 20:47.25 | azlev | sarnold: why people use '-M' in the nick? |
| 20:47.47 | jankusanagi_ | those are joining via Matrix bridge |
| 20:50.18 | nalix-M | Hello. Does anybody know how to tweak the way kioclient5 infers a protocol of a URL? In my case it decides to treat https://reddit.com/r/kde as a file and fails to open it with a "File or folder does not exists" error. At the same time https://reddit.com is opened in a browser. |
| 20:50.35 | nalix-M | With other URLs it works the same: okay with a base URL but fails in the presence of slash after the base |
| 20:50.43 | azlev | ok, found a notification configuration that does the trick |
| 20:50.54 | azlev | see ya! |
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| 21:44.08 | SoDamnGreasy | I've got a problem with cursors not being consistent in kde |
| 21:44.39 | d42 | as in it changes size? :v |
| 21:44.58 | SoDamnGreasy | no, it changes theme based on where I put it. |
| 21:45.42 | SoDamnGreasy | it's really weird, and I can't find an answer for it anywhere. |
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| 21:47.34 | SoDamnGreasy | different parts of the interface are showing different cursor themes entirely |
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| 21:48.23 | SoDamnGreasy | like hovering over the desktop is showing one cursor, then hovering over a panel is giving me the one that I want. |
| 21:49.02 | SoDamnGreasy | anybody have an answer as to how to fix this? |
| 21:51.06 | NightPatrolman | I've had this before. I solved it by rebooting. Did you try that yet? |
| 21:51.26 | SoDamnGreasy | I can try it. give me 1 sec |
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| 21:54.41 | SoDamnGreasy | so I tried the reboot and that seems to work. thanks. |
| 21:55.02 | SoDamnGreasy | I honestly didn't even think to do that. |
| 21:55.34 | NightPatrolman | Yeah, I had the same thing before. It only ever seemed to happen right after I changed a cursor theme. It also sort of happens if you change icon themes. |
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| 21:56.31 | SoDamnGreasy | NightPatrolman: do you think I should report it as a bug? |
| 21:57.18 | KuerbisKern | I haven't been able to send mails with kmail for about two weeks now. Can someone please help me fix this? It had worked for years before. :( |
| 21:59.07 | KuerbisKern | 'org.kde.pim.mailtransport.smtpplugin: Login started' this is all that comes up. I have enabled debugging on everything. After a while the connection is reset by the host. |
| 21:59.46 | KuerbisKern | I also tried https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/pim/kmail2/clean-start-after-a-failed-migration.html with no success. |
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| 22:27.30 | NightPatrolman | Ah, now it looks like I'm having an issue after about two months of using KDE. The startup notification now sounds kind of echo-ey when I start up my system and I can't seem to adjust my notifications volume. |
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| 23:45.10 | joeohoh | hey folks, anyone know a way to dismiss/close notifications with a shortcut/shell cmd? |
| 23:45.21 | joeohoh | preferably a shell cmd |
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| 23:50.24 | jankusanagi_ | you can probably talk to org.freedesktop.Notifications via D-Bus for that |
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