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| 04:43.52 | openbsdtai123 | misconfiguration: In debian, ubuntu and devuan, the kde runs very slowly, takes lot of mem, ... but ... on slackware 14.2 KDE runs very well, it is still fast and seems visibly much better working. |
| 04:45.41 | valorie | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.50 | valorie | other KDE software runs slowly? |
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| 04:56.33 | openbsdtai123 | Well, xfce4 is faster, but still surely kde runs a bit slow. it comes due to visual of kde, shadow and so on. Since debian is heavy than slackware, the perfs of kde on debian is not that good. |
| 04:56.40 | openbsdtai123 | pkill X* crashes kde on slackware. |
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| 04:56.58 | openbsdtai123 | (hangs the system X). alt+fx no longer working. |
| 04:57.44 | jankusanagi_ | kde runs? do they run marathons? =) |
| 04:57.53 | jankusanagi_ | must be something they do at Akademy |
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| 05:03.09 | openbsdtai123 | I see that it can run better with : .xinitrc with xterm ; plasma-desktop and twm ;) then it is faster. QT takes lot of mem, but today this is fine. On a raspberry rpi3b kde will not work (raspbian). |
| 05:03.18 | openbsdtai123 | (very slow). |
| 05:04.00 | jankusanagi_ | myths everywhere... |
| 05:04.11 | openbsdtai123 | I am happy that KDE is up there. The apps K* are superbe and the very best of linux. |
| 05:04.26 | openbsdtai123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.38 | openbsdtai123 | we cannot run kde 1. on rpi3b raspberry adn use the QT 5 and the apps of today KDE all together at same time ... |
| 05:06.04 | jankusanagi_ | QuickTime 5? |
| 05:07.30 | openbsdtai123 | kde framework 5 |
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| 05:17.24 | openbsdtai123 | it would be helpful to add into kde a wpa_passphare, ... dhcpd (or dhclient) based on DIALOG. Since wicd is not working all the time, kde could offer a workaround ... wifi is bit a bottle neck there. |
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| 05:20.38 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma already has Plasma-NM... |
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| 05:26.13 | openbsdtai123 | I was thinking to make a TUI and scanf way to get wifi myself with dialog. |
| 05:26.38 | openbsdtai123 | What is to get wifi with kde ? The GUI of the kicker bar is much complex. |
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| 05:34.11 | openbsdtai123 | there is last slackware 14.2 in 2016, anyhow kde is outdated on slack |
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| 06:09.10 | openbsdtai123 | I share with you a wifi configurator for kde, in case wifi is done by hand from terminal: https://termin.com/pbvt cc setup.c -o setup ; ./setup setup wifi |
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| 08:29.33 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.18 and Release Service 20.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
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| 09:04.05 | asturm | kio-gdrive appears to be somewhat broken again |
| 09:05.05 | asturm | no, actually the online accounts kcm |
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| 09:20.10 | oprypin | i just upgraded my system, and now in Konsole the cursor is white, on white background. what can I do about it? |
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| 09:22.03 | oprypin | screenshot, with the cursor being in between the two "arrows" https://i.imgur.com/jZCFtpl.png |
| 09:22.54 | oprypin | and to clarify, i want it to be black, as configured and as it's always been |
| 09:23.50 | oprypin | it seems hardcoded to white, doesn't depend on my choice of background color (which just happens to be white) |
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| 09:25.16 | oprypin | nevermind on the "hardcoded" part - it's just a setting. https://i.imgur.com/b8eIx1M.png but i certainly didn't set it to be like this |
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| 09:52.26 | goodger | d0mp1zl3_3: assuming you mean dolphin, right-click the file/directory and click âassign tagsâ â âcreate newâ |
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| 10:18.38 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 10:25.08 | goodger | o/ |
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| 10:30.25 | Bings-M | Does anyone else getting an error message whilst trying to install new Snippets in Kate? It prompts me for to get an html. Clicking no installs it anyway though. |
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| 12:17.57 | Shesh | Hi |
| 12:20.43 | Scarecr0w | Hello |
| 12:24.22 | Shesh | Hello Scarecr0w |
| 12:25.25 | Shesh | Can we use a single plain image as splash screen ? |
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| 12:31.43 | bionade24 | How can I force SDDM to use Intel iGPU? |
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| 12:38.12 | rindolf | bionade24: hi |
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| 12:38.36 | bionade24 | rindolf: Hi, I try to use prime-run for nvidia |
| 12:38.47 | rindolf | bionade24: ah |
| 12:39.34 | bionade24 | rindolf: And when I provide some xorg config prime-run doesn't work anymore |
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| 12:52.29 | aasutosh | bionade24: what OS are you on? |
| 12:52.42 | bionade24 | aasutosh: Arch Linux. |
| 12:52.52 | elyzabeth | bionade24: normally, you wouldn't need to use any xorg configuration, and it should pick up the iGPU |
| 12:52.57 | bionade24 | aasutosh: I have no xorg conig set |
| 12:53.25 | elyzabeth | If you have nvidia-xrun, you'd need to remove that. |
| 12:53.42 | bionade24 | elyzabeth: aasutosh: all programs except sddm do this. I outcommented everything in /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup |
| 12:53.42 | aasutosh | I am using Manjaro so followed this guide to install Optimus. I can switch the graphics easily https://forum.manjaro.org/t/guide-install-and-configure-optimus-manager-for-hybrid-gpu-setups-intel-nvidia/92196 |
| 12:54.11 | bionade24 | elyzabeth: I used nvidia only before. |
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| 12:56.02 | bionade24 | aasutosh: elyzabeth: Why does SDDM still go onto nvidia? |
| 12:57.11 | aasutosh | I can't answer that. I don't know. I followed that guide, and I can set up it to start up in intel or nvidia mode. |
| 12:57.19 | aasutosh | Can't tell much about SDDM workings. |
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| 13:10.29 | klarkkable-M | <bionade24 "How can I force SDDM to use Inte"> I assume you want sddm to use Intel and your login to use Nvidia? |
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| 13:16.59 | pa | hi |
| 13:17.06 | bionade24 | klarkkable-M: No, I want that SDDM uses intel to as the Rest, and prime-run works afterwards (which didn't worked with the select managers) |
| 13:17.47 | pa | so after upgrading the distro, krunner doesnt start anymore with alt+F2. if there's no app in focus, typing will pop it up, but alt+f2 does not do it. How can i restore the behavior? |
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| 13:18.14 | bionade24 | pa: Check your shortcut settings |
| 13:20.50 | pa | bionade24, thanks, checking. it says that Alt+F2 conflicts with "Application run command" for action "run command". i cannot find that one |
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| 13:38.03 | klarkkable-M | <bionade24 "klarkkable: No, I want that SDDM"> you can go into BIOS/UEFI and set it so you are only using intel graphics, boot, generate your xconfig with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf |
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| 13:41.01 | klarkkable-M | * you can go into BIOS/UEFI and set it so you are only using intel graphics, boot, generate your xconfig with |
| 13:41.01 | klarkkable-M | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.01 | klarkkable-M | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Using_xorg.conf |
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| 13:44.40 | bionade24 | klarkkable-M: I want to use prime-run, yes. And kwin session already runs on Intel. But SDDM stays on nvidia, until I set a xorg config which breaks prime-run. |
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| 16:25.27 | jouks-netlander- | <bionade24 "klarkkable: I want to use prime-"> https://wiki.manjaro.org/Configure_Graphics_Cards |
| 16:26.18 | jouks-netlander- | I used the way as shell script st login |
| 16:26.26 | klarkkable-M | <bionade24 "klarkkable: I want to use prime-"> any reason you are using prime run instead of optimus-manager? |
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| 17:53.01 | Sandeep_3955 | CAn any one help in getting correct and latest nvidia driver? |
| 17:53.21 | asturm | your distro can ;) |
| 17:53.27 | asturm | I would not stray from that |
| 17:54.04 | Sandeep_3955 | my device has 340.xx but nvidia website says 390.xx is required |
| 17:54.42 | Sandeep_3955 | but as per my gpu 430.xx is the latest one |
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| 17:56.10 | thiago | follow nvidia's recommendation |
| 17:56.18 | thiago | or your distro's recommendation |
| 17:57.13 | asturm | I would tend to the latter, as your kernel will also limit the compatible nvidia-drivers version |
| 17:57.58 | asturm | and sticking to the distro's package manager means next kernel update won't end in tears |
| 17:58.06 | thiago | well, not all distros will have bothered with NVidia |
| 17:58.55 | firebone-M | I have a locale question. I would like my KDE and apps to remain in english but my number and date notation to be dutch (Belgium). |
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| 18:00.23 | firebone-M | sent a long message: < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.org/fIjeHireywtZEPQZCZapEazJ > |
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| 18:00.55 | firebone-M | Trying to get something to be able to readout my logitech G900 mouse battery status |
| 18:00.59 | Sandeep_3955 | but suggest me one thing nvidia lagacy is better or x.org? |
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| 18:01.29 | Ivanovic | hi everyone |
| 18:01.44 | JanKusanagi | o/ |
| 18:01.46 | firebone-M | Hello |
| 18:02.01 | Ivanovic | I am running KDE / plasma desktop on archlinux and switching virtual workspaces using the mousewheel on the desktop is broken |
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| 18:02.46 | Ivanovic | already did everything in this post but am seeing the same issue as "Jeannie": https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/switching-workspaces-with-mouse-wheel-stopped-working/4112/28 |
| 18:03.28 | Ivanovic | it happened after one of those "regular" kde update cycles, I think it was early in march |
| 18:03.51 | JanKusanagi | define "broken" |
| 18:04.32 | Ivanovic | I move the mouse wheel vertically and the virtual desktop does not change |
| 18:05.31 | Ivanovic | after reconfiguring mouse actions via the "mouse actions" menu I am able to use middle click to switch workplaces, but that is not the same convienence as scrolling |
| 18:05.34 | IsaacA-M | Are you sure you have a second virtual desktop added? |
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| 18:05.45 | IsaacA-M | seems to work for me |
| 18:05.52 | Ivanovic | I can switch to the other desktops via hotkeys, the switcher, ... |
| 18:06.10 | Ivanovic | just as described by Jeannie in the thread in the endeavoros forum |
| 18:06.20 | JanKusanagi | you just add another action, and use the wheel over the "input here" button |
| 18:06.23 | JanKusanagi | works fine over here |
| 18:07.12 | Ivanovic | any idea what could be broken? |
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| 18:07.36 | Ivanovic | looking into .config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc the action seems to be configured correctly |
| 18:07.41 | IsaacA-M | uploaded an image: image.png (131KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/YaAAGSfTpgpenlyRkWhKYMnz > |
| 18:08.10 | IsaacA-M | Hmm |
| 18:09.08 | Ivanovic | https://i.imgur.com/qCmaSSj.png |
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| 18:10.19 | Ivanovic | ~ $ head -n 5 .config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc |
| 18:10.20 | Ivanovic | [ActionPlugins][0] |
| 18:10.22 | Ivanovic | MidButton;NoModifier=org.kde.switchdesktop |
| 18:10.23 | Ivanovic | RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu |
| 18:10.25 | Ivanovic | wheel:Vertical;NoModifier=org.kde.switchdeskto |
| 18:10.33 | Ivanovic | sorry, meant the pastebin link instead... https://pastebin.com/2Z6c2x72 |
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| 18:12.47 | Ivanovic | which part of kde exactly does provide the functionality? maybe I can try to just downgrade that package to verify if it really is the more recent build / package |
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| 18:16.08 | Bitterblue | Sounds like plasma-desktop. |
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| 18:17.21 | bionade24 | klarkkable-M: Way better performance than bumblebee with same behaviour. |
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| 18:19.32 | klarkkable-M | <bionade24 "klarkkable: Way better performan"> sure, bbswitch/bumblebee is deprecated I believe. |
| 18:20.19 | klarkkable-M | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus#Using_optimus-manager |
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| 18:33.54 | Scarecr0w | Excuse me please, how do i go about enabling sound (bell/notification) in Konsole terminal? |
| 18:34.54 | Ivanovic | okay, just switching the plasma-desktop package to older version(s) was not enough, neither from 5.18.4 to 5.17.5 nor 5.17.4 helped |
| 18:35.26 | Ivanovic | and at least during times switching work panes by mouse wheel scroll was for sure working... |
| 18:35.48 | JanKusanagi | Scarecr0w: SettingsâConfigure Notifications |
| 18:41.23 | Scarecr0w | JanKusanagi: Thanks, not sure why my IRSSI mentions aren't triggering the beeps. Thanks anwaysy. |
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| 18:43.22 | JanKusanagi | did you see there are 2 events, one bell for focused, and one bell for unfocused sessions? |
| 18:44.14 | Scarecr0w | Yes sir, I enabled 'em both and set sound file but still no cake. Maybe it requires restarting the terminal? Let me give that a try. |
| 18:44.37 | JanKusanagi | it's easy to check |
| 18:44.54 | JanKusanagi | in the Bash prompt, while nothing is written yet, press backspace |
| 18:45.12 | JanKusanagi | probably in other shells too |
| 18:47.17 | Scarecr0w | Forgive me, how do i create a bash prompt? |
| 18:47.37 | Scarecr0w | Can i simply press backspace on $ hostname: ..<-- here? |
| 18:48.30 | Scarecr0w | Oh nvm, Ctrl + V, G and enter triggers the bell notification. It works but no cake in the irc client lol. |
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| 18:51.16 | JanKusanagi | that's the Bash (or whatever shell you use) prompt |
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| 18:51.36 | JanKusanagi | if you don't know what shell you're use, 99,99% that it's GNU Bash |
| 18:51.37 | JanKusanagi | =) |
| 18:52.37 | Scarecr0w | hmm, zsh/ohmyzsh is my idk, what's inside the terminal lol, forgive my knowledge in linux. |
| 18:54.52 | JanKusanagi | again, shell |
| 18:55.11 | JanKusanagi | surprising that you barely know what it is and yet you're not using the common default xD |
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| 18:57.16 | Scarecr0w | haha, I'm still learning but apparently we have to enable audible bell instead of visual bell when inside screen. This is weird but works. |
| 18:57.35 | Scarecr0w | JanKusanagi: Thanks for your help and guidance. |
| 19:01.06 | Ivanovic | IsaacA-M, JanKusanagi, Bitterblue: okay, tried various version of plasma-desktop package now as well as verified that the same happens with C locale instead of de_DE (as wondering since the poster of the forum thread was also using german locale and wanted to make sure) |
| 19:01.21 | Ivanovic | no luck getting the "switch desktops using mouse wheel" to work again :( |
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| 19:09.16 | JanKusanagi | it *is* possible that this doesn't work in Folder View mode |
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| 19:09.47 | JanKusanagi | I enabled the wheel for desktop switching (which I hate xD) for testing and it works, but I use desktop mode |
| 19:09.48 | Ivanovic | ooookay, that would explain it, I guess |
| 19:10.32 | Ivanovic | yes, it works in desktop mode, in folder mode it breaks |
| 19:11.57 | JanKusanagi | nice to see other Oxygen users =) |
| 19:11.57 | Ivanovic | is this a bug or is it a feature? |
| 19:12.29 | JanKusanagi | well, it could be considered a bug, but it's to be expected... a folder view widget _has_ to deal with the wheel to scroll the files |
| 19:13.06 | JanKusanagi | personally I hate the folder view mode, and very much prefer the desktop mode with whatever folder view widgets I want, located however I want =) |
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| 19:13.13 | Ivanovic | strange thing is that it worked smoothly in the past and the folder is pretty empty (given the screen size), so scrolling is unlikely to ever occur |
| 19:13.37 | JanKusanagi | well, empty or not, the folder view widget/screen, has to deal with the wheel for its purposes |
| 19:13.51 | JanKusanagi | which would explain how using the wheel for other events breaks |
| 19:13.57 | JanKusanagi | still, worth a bug report |
| 19:14.15 | JanKusanagi | to at least make it clearly unavailable in folderview mode, or handle it somehow |
| 19:14.30 | asturm | the standard view switched at some point from desktop to folder view, of course not for existing profiles |
| 19:14.37 | Ivanovic | okay, I'll add a report |
| 19:14.39 | JanKusanagi | (and yes, Desktop mode used to be the default until Plasma 5.16 or so) |
| 19:14.48 | JanKusanagi | maybe 5.14 |
| 19:16.11 | Ivanovic | just one question: which package to create the report for? https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi |
| 19:16.30 | Ivanovic | a search for desktop (since it is based on plasma-desktop, I guess) does not help |
| 19:18.56 | JanKusanagi | I guess plasmashell, if not, the devs can change to the exact component later |
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| 19:19.02 | JanKusanagi | maybe the folderview widget... |
| 19:19.27 | Ivanovic | no folderview available |
| 19:19.33 | Ivanovic | so I will go with plasmashell |
| 19:19.37 | JanKusanagi | but in the folderview *widgets* this kidnapping of the wheel makes sense, so... |
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| 19:30.20 | Ivanovic | JanKusanagi: thanks for your support, created a defect: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420918 |
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| 19:39.21 | JanKusanagi | defect xD |
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| 19:40.24 | asturm | ford defect |
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| 20:18.50 | JanKusanagi | good report, Ivanovic =) |
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| 21:54.08 | KodiakIT | Is there an official list of what applications are actually considered part of the "core" of KDE desktop? (i.e. supported/organized/managed directly by KDE e.V., e.g. Plasma/KWin, Dolphin, etc) |
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| 21:57.14 | JanKusanagi | that's kind of the wrong question |
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| 21:57.29 | JanKusanagi | you want to know all software made by KDE? or part of the Plasma Desktop? |
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| 22:01.19 | KodiakIT | Not really, I'm specifically asking what's considered part of the "core" as in has official resources (developed essentially full-time) from the organization dedicated to it, as opposed to projects like Elisa & Konversation which as I understand it are mostly managed by one or two people a piece |
| 22:07.06 | KodiakIT | Basically, I'm trying to find some project I can contribute to that's large enough for me to a) get a feel for working in a team of programmers/get a sense of the workflow, and b) not constantly pester the lone other dev on said project who likely has other commitments outside of that particular projects development |
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| 22:21.31 | JanKusanagi | you should probably ask on #kde-devel |
| 22:22.00 | KodiakIT | Good idea |
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| 23:02.04 | Nyle | I am still on ubuntu 18 |
| 23:02.06 | Nyle | :( |
| 23:02.21 | Nyle | Upgrading will be so much work, I gotta bac things up and copy things and omg! |
| 23:02.25 | Nyle | life is hard sometimes |
| 23:02.54 | JanKusanagi | #firstworldproblems indeed xD |
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| 23:03.59 | Nyle | This time, though, I wanted to upgrade to neon but you gyys are still on 18 huh? |
| 23:04.04 | Nyle | is that updated yet or not? |
| 23:04.17 | Nyle | I don't knwo what a relsease service is but is that a one I can use? |
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| 23:13.54 | idris | Hi everyone. I'm building and using KDE software with KDE-craft on Windows. But still there are missing packages I cannot build. Like Spectacle. I was using ksnapshot but I cannot install it anymore. Will Spectacle ever be ported to Windows? Thank you. |
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