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00:37.23mike987087976Hi all. In digiKam, can I arrange photos in a custom order within an album? Or is it always sorted by date/filename/etc?
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01:59.58justsomeguyAfter an upgrade, I no longer have shadows around window borders, so it's hard to see where one window ends and another begins. What is a good place to start troubleshooting this?
02:00.38justsomeguyI went through the steps here already: https://userbase.kde.org/Troubleshooting
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02:03.36jankusanagi_do you have compositing working? can you use any desktop effects?
02:03.44justsomeguyYes and yes.
02:04.31jankusanagi_then I guess you need to go to the settings for your window decoration and check
02:04.44jankusanagi_assuming you use the default, Breeze, there's a tab for shadows
02:07.17justsomeguyUnder  "System Settings" -> "Window Decorations" -> "Breeze" -> "Shadows" tab, it is set to "Size: Large", "Strength: 100%", "Color: Black".
02:08.34jankusanagi_check under the window decorations "list", the "border size" setting
02:09.12jankusanagi_but I think even in "No border" mode, shadows should work (that's the point, having no border makes sense if there's a shadow), but still...
02:10.04justsomeguyAt least that draws a line around the window.
02:11.19jankusanagi_have you tried <100% shadow strength? maybe 100% fails
02:11.31justsomeguyOho, I unchecked "Use theme's default window border settings" in the "Window decorations" screen, and the shadows magically came back.
02:11.49jankusanagi_=)
02:11.58justsomeguy\o/
02:12.14justsomeguyThank you for the pointers, jankusanagi_ :)
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07:17.38openbsdtai123hi
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07:18.56openbsdtai123In the past, abouit 10 years ago, there were : gdict and kdict as a dictionary EN SP DE BR IT ... dictionary. It worked either local or on the net to fetch the word defintion. online feetcing was cool.
07:19.23openbsdtai123What is today the name of this dictionary? because kdict seems to not be there on raspbian rpi3b :(
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08:04.52fpsis there a way to disable the hiding of the scrollbars in the system settings app? kde plasma version 5.17.5 (nixos)
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08:13.36ModifI am using OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE, Firefox. When I am using twitch.tv, the sound is off, so I should open PlasmaAudio panel and volume up the bar. When I am changing the video or pause it, and play again, the sound is off again. There are no problem with cromium browsers. Also there are no problem with youtube in firefox.
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08:23.20rindolfModif: hi, does it happen in icewm instead of plasma5 too?
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08:35.09mhasel-Muploaded an image: VectorImage_2020-05-05_103449.jpg (25KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.org/WhNJzLjULkhUuTLSYuDnbjkT >
08:35.20mhasel-MAny ideas how to fix welcome
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10:21.02zilti-MAhh this bug has been around for a decade now... You have to install akonadiconsole if it isn't by default, and there delete the local folders (of course if you have anything inside those, it'll be gone, but I'm gonna claim that most people don't have anything in there). I don't know of any other fix, but maybe someone else here does
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10:38.05Tuxisthi i have problem with plasma bigscreen i have build it under ubuntu 20.04 for armhf imx6 plattform if i start it i got only a blachscreen 2d/3d acceleration works
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10:47.13Tuxistin debug output i got this: Globals.qml:132: TypeError: Type error
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11:41.48troffaskycan i get some logging out of dolphin somehow?
11:42.33troffaskySMB share that worked a few days ago is now saying "Loading folder..." forever and there is no output on CLI
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11:50.58BluesKajHiyas all
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14:16.09SoDamnGreasyi'm trying to create a dolphin servicemenu entry that calls a script which should open a kdialog inputbox but it isn't creating the kdialog window. any advice?
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14:19.43jankusanagi_do you have any check that the script is actually run?
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14:21.03SoDamnGreasyjankusanagi_: I have the exec field in the .desktop file set to sh ~/.local/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/script.sh
14:21.33jankusanagi_and → do you have any check that the script is actually run?
14:21.53SoDamnGreasynot really.
14:22.18jankusanagi_try adding something like "date > /home/BLAH/date.txt" in there to make sure
14:22.32jankusanagi_the ~ might not be a good idea in that field
14:22.34SoDamnGreasygood idea
14:22.58SoDamnGreasyit's supposed to point to the same file regardless of the name of the home folder
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14:24.30SoDamnGreasythe script is not being called.
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14:26.01SoDamnGreasyactually appartently the script is being called if I hardlink it.
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15:19.33openbsdtai123In the past, abouit 10 years ago, there were : gdict and kdict as a dictionary EN SP DE BR IT ... dictionary. It worked either local or on the net to fetch the word defintion.
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15:46.02burakcankhi, I am trying to get "advanced mouse settings" under input/mouse, installed evdev and configured it so that my mouse driver (not touchpad) uses the "evdev" driver.
15:46.44burakcankoutput of "grep -ie 'using input driver' /var/log..." outputs that I am indeed using the evdev driver, but advanced mouse settings are still missing.
15:46.46burakcankAny help ?
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15:53.53azagaya-MHi! i wanted to know what are the requisites for an app to join the KDE family? and what that implies?
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15:55.08jankusanagi_you should probably ask on #kde-devel
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16:00.57azagaya-Mjankusanagi_: thanks! i will
16:00.57azagaya-Mbut isn't that channel more for kde desktop environment itself?
16:01.11jankusanagi_there's no such thing
16:01.24jankusanagi_KDE is a community, and the desktop environment made by them is called Plasma Desktop
16:01.36jankusanagi_#kde-devel is a place where developers of any KDE software meet
16:01.59jankusanagi_any software that's part of that "KDE family" as you put it
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16:11.08azagaya-Moh thanks, sorry
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16:40.17rstrnet-MHello world! Sorry, does anybody know, how to install spellchecking for other languages than english dialects. Where can I find 'sonnet'? And what is the installation directory for GNU aspell called?
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17:06.39jzarlazagaya-M: what jankusanagi_ said, and also have a look at https://community.kde.org/Incubator
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17:14.49jankusanagi_rstrnet-M: for Sonnet-based spellchecking, you might need language data for aspell, ispell, or, I think more probably, hunspell
17:17.10rstrnet-MThank you, I found aspell an my computer, and I found a German dictionary. I'm already reading the steps to install it.
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17:18.30AndyAndyBoBandyI've configured mpv to launch konsole with a keybind. If I launch mpv with primusrun (as I usually do, using bumblebee), the konsole color scheme's opacity setting seems ignored. Any immediate thoughts? Is it time I finally check out the PRIME config or whatever's cooler than bumblebee nowadays?
17:19.28AndyAndyBoBandyOr rather time I just stop using the dedicated card for video playback?
17:19.39jankusanagi_more than opacity "being ignored", that Konsole is probably run in "there's no compositing" mode
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17:22.53AndyAndyBoBandyjankusanagi_: same result if I set mpv to launch it with primusrun as well. And its decoration does do compositing. Why might it think that? Can I tell it to override its wrong guess?
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17:33.12kiyoMatsuiAnyone know where/if i can get Konversation on windows? link returns 404 on home page.
17:37.31cadamhttps://binary-factory.kde.org/view/Windows%2064-bit/job/Konversation_Release_win64/
17:37.53cadamkiyoMatsui: ^^^
17:38.14kiyoMatsuiThank yoooooouu
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18:13.55giantrat80hey hey
18:14.02giantrat80I have a super quick question
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18:14.47burakcankHi, I tried install xf86-input-evdev driver just for my bluetooth mouse and not touchpad. It seems like unless I apply evdev driver for both my mouse and touchpad, advanced mouse tab appears, but If I set it only for my bluetooth mouse "advanced mouse tab" disappears. What might be the reason for this ?
18:15.38giantrat80oh
18:16.05giantrat80I just can't take screenshots with spectacle in fullscreen dwarf fortress
18:16.38DwarfWhat happens if you do?
18:17.03giantrat80nothing
18:17.08giantrat80also sorry didn't mean to ping
18:17.18DwarfNo worries
18:17.31DwarfNothing as in, spectacle shows a black screen?
18:17.42DwarfIs this on Xorg or wayland?
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18:18.01giantrat80xorg
18:18.41giantrat80and I'm using a custom shortcut, print to spectacle -bmc
18:18.49giantrat80works when it's not in focus it seems
18:19.04giantrat80it might be a xterm thing, since that was what the game uses by default
18:19.30xyquadrat-Mwell, let's hope we can give a super quick answer then
18:20.21jankusanagi_wow, Matrix bridge at its best xD
18:20.31xyquadrat-Mburakcank: maybe https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=153755 could help
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18:26.27manjaro-userhey
18:27.07quantumMy touchpad is not sensitive enough on Wayland.  Will there ever be a setting in Plasma?  And for Natural Scrolling?
18:27.30quantumI have to pound on the touchpad.
18:27.34burakcankxyquadrat-M: I applied what's written in that thread but for no luck :/
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18:44.02burakcankxyquadrat-M: http://dpaste.com//0QQTGEQ <-- How can I distinguish these two pointers so that evdev just captures the bm30x pointer ?
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18:46.47xyquadrat-Mburakcank: to be honest, i have no clue how evdev works
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18:48.14xyquadrat-MSo I don't think I'll be able to help you here
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18:49.48burakcankThanks for the help anyways :)
18:50.01quantumevdev isn't relevant in Wayland anymore.
18:50.09quantumlibinput.
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18:56.36TsynkVoinI cannot upgrade to Kubuntu 20.04 LTS, says that there's no new version.
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18:58.07jankusanagi_#kubuntu
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20:08.34xyquadrat-MSo I don't think I'll be able to help you here
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20:16.51NatAlx-MTsynkVoin if I remember correctly you wont be prompted to upgrade till the first 20.04 point release
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20:23.49openbsdtai123hi
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20:24.23openbsdtai123I have here a code for physics and chemistry to KDE   http://collabedit.com/869ec   can you help me there to add more code it ... this can serve KDE sciences edu.
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21:12.16jaggzI have an idea!
21:13.05jaggzmouseover the Volume icon of a program's taskbar item can allow mousewheel to adjust the volume
21:13.53jaggz(like it does with the speaker icon in the Microsoft systray that kde uses, except ms doesn't allow that for some reason, but kde does.) :D
21:14.00jaggzbut per-app
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21:16.29troffaskysounds good
21:16.58troffaskyseeing as volume can be controlled per-app anyway
21:17.04troffaskysounds like an obvious thing to do
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21:19.04jaggztroffasky, yeah, although relating the taskbar entries to the pulseaudio (or whichever sound system's) volume might be an issue
21:19.24jankusanagi_"the Microsoft systray that kde uses"??? WTF is that? xD
21:19.27jaggzbut since it's receiving info from the sound system I think it should be okay
21:19.42jaggzI mean, it's showing an icon that that app is making noise already so...
21:19.49jaggzjankusanagi_, heh :)
21:20.18jankusanagi_the volume icons in the taskbar allow muting that particular program, too; they're not informative-only
21:20.56jaggzoh? mine doesn't seem to
21:21.01jaggzbut I'm in debian stable (old)
21:21.22jaggzkded5 5.54.0
21:21.52jankusanagi_well, Debian Stable has old software, that's a given
21:22.06jankusanagi_and the relevant version would be the Plasma version, btw
21:22.14jankusanagi_just launch KInfoCenter
21:22.34jankusanagi_anyway, your idea is probably feasible, since it's already half-way there
21:23.19jaggzhmm.. kinfocenter..  "kennel version" sounds about right
21:24.42jaggz(it says "kernel", properly.. just had to squint)
21:24.54firebone-MHello, quick question. I added secondary nvme drive in fstab and it show in the file manager. However I am unable to write to this secondary disc. Is there something I missed?
21:25.21jankusanagi_what filesystem?
21:25.53jaggzmount | less
21:26.06jaggzshows maybe it has a ro (read only) flag?
21:26.19jaggzthis is probably a #linux thing not kde .. but whatevz
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21:31.10firebone-MTried the Arch channel but no answer theren jaggz
21:31.36firebone-Mjankusanagi_: ext4
21:32.10jankusanagi_then assuming there are no errors in the filesystem, you probably just need to chown the root of it with your user
21:32.30jankusanagi_if there are existing files, then (presumably) the same for the files
21:32.32jaggzwhat's an arch channel?
21:32.37jaggzArch Linux?
21:32.39firebone-Mfstab doesn't return any errors and it mounts on boot. Only issue is that I can't place any files or folders on there
21:33.07jaggzfirebone-M, try from commandline?
21:33.19jaggzcd wherever && touch foo.txt
21:33.24jaggzPermission Denied?
21:33.49firebone-M<PROTECTED>
21:34.29jankusanagi_please don't edit messages from a while ago; it's really annoying on the IRC side...
21:35.40jaggzoh I getcha
21:35.58jaggzyeah, no this is general #linux, not a particular distro issue probably
21:36.17jankusanagi_>>>> then assuming there are no errors in the filesystem, you probably just need to chown the root of it with your user
21:36.28jaggzit's unlikely your file manager is the problem. it's more likely the drive is mounted read only OR your user account doesn't have permissions to the folders you're accessing
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21:37.11jaggzcommandline is probably more convenient than most file managers, with ls -l showing the user-group and access flags
21:37.25jaggzbut maybe you know how to check with your file browser
21:37.45jaggzin either case, do check
21:40.39firebone-M~ $ cd /media/data/ && touch foo.txt
21:40.39firebone-Mtouch: cannot touch 'foo.txt': Permission denied
21:41.19firebone-MStrange
21:41.24jankusanagi_>>>> then assuming there are no errors in the filesystem, you probably just need to chown the root of it with your user
21:41.24firebone-MI thought I changed the owner but apperantly I did not
21:41.25firebone-MThx
21:41.50jankusanagi_if the filesystem is empty, you just need to chown the root of it
21:42.44jaggzsudo chown -R me.me /media/data/ if you really want to change every single file on the system (this can be a HORRIBLE thing to do on a normal system drive)
21:42.59jaggz(where me.me is youruser.yourgroup)
21:43.24jaggzalso, uhm.. sometimes with potentially-devastating commands, add the -R in there after you type it all out
21:43.38jaggzI did rm -rf / path/to/something   before
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21:44.07jaggzon our live linux system for the shell-accounts/users of our internet provider service
21:44.11jankusanagi_oh, "rm -rf /" by itself hasn't worked for years
21:44.23jaggzI've not tried :)  but at the time it worked
21:44.43jaggzfirebone-M, (note the accidental space there, which was supposed to be "/path" but I did "/ path")
21:44.55jaggzI actually ctrl-c'ed it before it reached /home/
21:45.03jaggzonly had to reinstall OS stuff
21:45.43jaggz(I think it got the initial data, like /bin/ but didn't get to /home/).  Thankfully computers in the 90's were slower :)
21:46.08firebone-MI chowned the /media/data folder to my user and I am able to create files and folder now. So thanks for the help 🙂
21:46.38jaggzcommandline is so much nicer
21:46.49jaggzthe power of doing little loops and stuff there..
21:47.22jaggzrename 's/png$/jpg/' *.png # Correct misnamed extensions!
21:48.24jaggzfor i in *.json; do cat "$i" | json_pp > ../pretty_formatted_json/"$i"; done  # Loop through all json files, formatting them perdy with "json_pp", and storing them in the other dir
21:48.56jankusanagi_(offtopic through the roof and reaching the moon by now...)
21:49.07jaggzcat ../urls.txt | while read urlvar; do youtube-dl "$urlvar"; done  # Download each URL in urls.txt using youtube-dl
21:49.11jaggzoh right.. /me shuts up
21:49.27jankusanagi_you might be interested in #kde-chat =)
21:49.51firebone-MNot doing anything recursive at the moment
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21:50.11firebone-MChanging the owner from root:root to me:me fixed the issue
21:50.37firebone-MStill learning jaggz .Bought new pc and thought it was time to make the switch to linux
21:51.01firebone-Mwhere me😉
21:51.19jankusanagi_about time! you're still earlier than 90% of the world =)
21:51.27jaggzas frustrating as it can be, it's not something you're likely to return from.  I do have one win and one linux pc.
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21:51.34firebone-MSorry for edit
21:51.54jaggztake care :)
21:51.58jankusanagi_no worries... the original sentence was cut waaaay too short
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21:52.21firebone-MAnyhow, I'm off to get some shut eyes. Goodnight all
21:52.52jaggznobody's been sentenced!
21:52.55jaggz& myself
21:53.40firebone-Mjankusanagi_: It's only midnight here. And I do have a 1 yr old kid who wakes us up early.
21:54.39firebone-Mjaggz: I have several win machines here that I can't convert (yet)
21:55.25firebone-MSome are work related and are serving a life sentence running Winblows
21:56.53goodger> winblows
21:57.01goodgerjust like that it's 1996 again
22:00.12jankusanagi_I wish!
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23:27.32jaggzlol
23:30.01jaggztroffasky, jankusanagi_ how does one go about getting a [good] suggestion like the mousewheel volume on taskbar items heard by a dev?
23:31.29jankusanagi_I'd say try talking about it in #plasma and/org kde-devel and, hopefully after talking to someone relatively related to the topic, file a feature request at bugs.kde.org
23:31.38jankusanagi_you can always ping ngraham =)
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