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| 01:11.05 | dilyn | I can successfully launch KDE using startx, but I cannot launch any programs. I can right click on the desktop and try to launch krunner but it doesn't appear. |
| 01:11.32 | dilyn | I built kde frameworks + plasma from source on KISS linux; not sure what could be wrong |
| 01:12.32 | thrice | you just get an empty desktop? No panels, app launcher? |
| 01:12.55 | dilyn | I can add as many panels as I like and they all have what looks like a settings button on the far right, but nothing else |
| 01:13.09 | dilyn | if I click it, an off-color window with no text (can't interact with it either) opens in the top left corner |
| 01:13.21 | dilyn | There's no 'start menu' or anything like that |
| 01:13.26 | thrice | what is in your ~/.xinitrc ? |
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| 01:13.28 | dilyn | hotkeys also don't work |
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| 01:13.45 | dilyn | exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session startplasma-x11 |
| 01:14.59 | thrice | "KISS explicitely excludes dbus, systemd, polkit, ..., pam, wayland, logind, CK2, ..." |
| 01:15.13 | dilyn | yeah |
| 01:15.25 | dilyn | i built dbus, polkit, pam, wayland, and elogind |
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| 01:16.38 | thrice | there's so much integration for those components, though |
| 01:17.02 | dilyn | I know! it's a very tricky starting point |
| 01:17.24 | thrice | no idea what could be going on, sorry |
| 01:17.49 | dilyn | yeah I've been going crazy on this for the last two days |
| 01:17.52 | thrice | "tricky" isn't the word I'd use :D |
| 01:17.55 | dilyn | thanks tho |
| 01:18.04 | dilyn | haha that's the 'nice way' ;) |
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| 02:07.52 | skierpage | I just updated my Fedora 32 KDE spin as usual, 14 packages downloaded, and rebooted (new kernel). Now I've lost my custom Plasma background (solid fill) and there areicons on the desktop. Is this stored in ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc ? |
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| 02:11.14 | skierpage | That config file has four different [Containments][NNN] sections, are those for multiple desktops or something? |
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| 02:16.27 | skierpage | They all have Image=file:///usr/share/backgrounds/f32/default/f32.png except for Containments[1] which doesn't set an Image. How can I swap Containments? |
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| 02:21.31 | skierpage | I only have one activity and the pager doesn't show, suggesting I only have the one desktop. |
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| 02:33.19 | skierpage | How do I know what Containment[NNN] is my current desktop? Is it [Containments][1]? |
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| 02:43.33 | skierpage | ... Oh well, right-click > Configure Desktop... back the way it was. |
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| 03:20.58 | derpadmin | anyone knows of a good voip softphone that is kde native(qt)? I ended up with twinkle which is what I was using 10 years ago... but it uses alsa instead of pulseaudio by default... which causes extra problems. What I would like is pretty much an ekiga for kde without all the gnome dependencies |
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| 03:34.47 | gldsrc | anyone using kimtoy on plasma? I've been using ibus-gtk3 to manage input method, but decided to use something a bit more integrated, however even thoguh kimtoy detects the input methods it doesn't actually let me switch, using the key combo does absolutely nothing |
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| 08:31.06 | Dwarf | So... that emoji input panel. It's not working for me so I looked into the keyboard shortcut settings but couldn't find it there either. Do I need to install something for that to work? |
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| 10:26.39 | ntninja-M | They changed it on Phabricator, but that's EOL now. |
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| 11:30.10 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 11:49.57 | GB_2-M | ntninja I'd write an email to sysadmin@kde.org |
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| 11:50.17 | ntninja-M | OK |
| 11:50.22 | ntninja-M | Thanks! |
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| 13:27.55 | derpadmin | anyone knows of a good voip softphone that is kde native(qt)? I ended up with twinkle which is what I was using 10 years ago... but it uses alsa instead of pulseaudio by default... which causes extra problems. What I would like is pretty much an ekiga for kde without all the gnome dependencies |
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| 13:30.09 | BluesKaj | derpadmin, pulse doesn't replace alsa it rides on top of it as a sound server so maybe pulseaudio will work on your device |
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| 13:32.58 | troffasky | linphone works for me |
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| 13:35.51 | derpadmin | thanks troffasky !! |
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| 13:36.14 | derpadmin | just installed it, will give it a try after work |
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| 13:37.54 | derpadmin | BluesKaj : I know this, but twinkle use alsa straight |
| 13:38.16 | derpadmin | which causes issues (eg: phone cannot ring because I play music in firefox) |
| 13:40.09 | derpadmin | not a smooth experience overall |
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| 13:41.54 | troffasky | maybe there is an ALSA equivlaent of padsp? |
| 13:42.43 | derpadmin | not sure... but twinkle is old and no longer developped... will give a shot to linphone instead |
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| 13:45.14 | JanKusanagi | it's not like 2 programs playing audio wasn't possible _before_ PA... |
| 13:45.19 | JanKusanagi | that was always possible with ALSA |
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| 14:03.49 | derpadmin | works like a charm troffasky thanks a lot!!! I had an issue with the automated wizard the first time I tried it, this is why I gave up on it, read the wiki and it works, easy peazy |
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| 14:04.54 | derpadmin | JanKusanagi : I think so, but seems like pa does not play nice with other programs that use alsa straight |
| 14:09.13 | troffasky | even though twinkle doesn't say it's using PA, it mentions it in the audio settings |
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| 14:21.08 | derpadmin | troffasky : yes but to no avail |
| 14:21.17 | derpadmin | i'll stick to linphone, works great |
| 14:21.29 | derpadmin | and I have a vcard generator script :) |
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| 15:17.40 | RhineDevil | Is there a way to change Plasma screen resolution from TTY? |
| 15:18.02 | RhineDevil | Can't do that from regular window cause I messed up the config |
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| 15:24.15 | ntninja-M | <RhineDevil "Is there a way to change Plasma "> X11 or Wayland? |
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| 15:27.49 | jankusanagi_ | from a pure tty, not a Konsole window? |
| 15:28.02 | jankusanagi_ | you can always edit KScreen's data files under ~/.local/ |
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| 15:32.19 | RhineDevil | ntninja-M, x11 |
| 15:32.34 | RhineDevil | jankusanagi_, how can I stop plasma from tty |
| 15:32.55 | ntninja-M | Wait before stopping it |
| 15:33.11 | ntninja-M | Run `export DISPLAY=:0` (or :1 if :0 does not work) |
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| 15:33.50 | RhineDevil | ntninja-M, and? |
| 15:33.57 | ntninja-M | Then run `xrandr --current` |
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| 15:34.22 | ntninja-M | It should show you the current configuration and other available configurations |
| 15:34.36 | ntninja-M | Works? |
| 15:35.33 | RhineDevil | ntninja-M, yes |
| 15:35.51 | ntninja-M | Take name of first display (the text before the word "connected") and run `xrandr --output <name> --auto` |
| 15:36.52 | RhineDevil | ntninja-M, configure crtc 0 failed |
| 15:36.52 | ntninja-M | If its still broken try each mode (like 1280x720, etc.) with `xrandr --output <name> --mode <mode>` |
| 15:37.09 | RhineDevil | how about I tell plasma to close and then I reopen it with edited settings? |
| 15:37.55 | ntninja-M | You can try that too of course |
| 15:38.22 | RhineDevil | how do I close current plasma session from console? |
| 15:38.30 | ntninja-M | `killall ksmserver` should work, I think? |
| 15:39.20 | ntninja-M | Or just switch to the broken session and press Alt+Print+K |
| 15:40.19 | RhineDevil | works now, thank you |
| 15:40.50 | ntninja-M | You're welcome! |
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| 15:45.12 | RhineDevil | There's a way for changing the "BEEP" typical of when you mistype into another tone, without using pulseaudio? |
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| 15:50.01 | jankusanagi_ | what beep is that? triggered where? |
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| 15:50.31 | ntninja-M | <RhineDevil "There's a way for changing the ""> Are you talking about Konsole? |
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| 15:51.06 | RhineDevil | ntninja-M, too, but in general |
| 15:53.24 | ntninja-M | For Konsole you might have some luck wiht âSettingsâ â âNotification settingsâ¦â |
| 15:53.41 | ntninja-M | Otherwise, I don't know |
| 15:53.48 | RhineDevil | thank you |
| 15:53.53 | ntninja-M | Can you play Audio in KDE applications in general? |
| 15:54.12 | RhineDevil | ntninja-M, yeah, phonon has lots of backends |
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| 15:54.25 | RhineDevil | you can freely choose to use another audio daemon or just alsa |
| 15:54.30 | jankusanagi_ | what's "in general"? |
| 15:54.40 | jankusanagi_ | I really don't have a clue what "beep" is that... |
| 15:54.50 | jankusanagi_ | Phonon has about 2 backends nowadays... xD |
| 15:55.04 | RhineDevil | jankusanagi_, *3 |
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| 15:55.10 | RhineDevil | you forgot phonon-mpv |
| 15:55.31 | jankusanagi_ | packaged by no-one yet? =) |
| 15:55.40 | RhineDevil | yeah, unluckily |
| 15:55.51 | RhineDevil | but seems stable enough to be packaged soon |
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| 15:56.18 | RhineDevil | after all it just recycles phonon-vlc source code |
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| 16:05.30 | thrice | Nice, I haven't tried that yet, but was curious when it might be ready |
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| 19:25.50 | ThothCastel | debian 10 kde not notifying when low on battery while watching a video |
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| 19:33.16 | redgloboli | hi, anyone had the problem that a 144Hz display gets reset to 60Hz after reboot? if so, how'd you fix it? :) |
| 19:35.28 | oprypin | ThothCastel, hehe it used to notify, then they "fixed" it to not disturb you in full screen mode |
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| 19:35.48 | ThothCastel | oprypin: hehe |
| 19:35.57 | ThothCastel | https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/c5fvtn/low_battery_notification_while_watching_videos/es4eii5/ |
| 19:36.02 | ThothCastel | do you recon this fixes it? |
| 19:36.04 | oprypin | when im playing a video game, the way that i determine that a notification came in, is by noticing a slight lag spike |
| 19:37.10 | ThothCastel | oprypin: do oyu know if, when editing the powerdevil.notifyrc is it necessary to logout and login / reboot? |
| 19:37.33 | oprypin | probbly need to restart powerdevil. just log out |
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| 19:38.37 | ThothCastel | ok |
| 19:38.40 | ThothCastel | be rigt back |
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| 19:47.27 | Intelo | I switch user, and it behaves like I logout user. All previous work is gone. What could be wrong and how to fix it. I am using kubuntu LTS 18.x. even if I press ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 I can switch but it behaves just like logout. same like https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/6kn35z/is_kdes_user_switching_broken/ |
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| 19:53.37 | ThothCastel | oprypin: it didn't work |
| 19:53.41 | ThothCastel | lol |
| 19:57.02 | oprypin | ThothCastel, means they fixed it for good! |
| 19:57.12 | ThothCastel | kkk |
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| 20:26.51 | ThothCastel | oprypin: I think i have managed a workaround with kdialog |
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| 20:27.05 | ThothCastel | under system settings / power management / advanced settings |
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| 20:27.17 | ThothCastel | under low battery, click on 'Notificatins' |
| 20:27.20 | ThothCastel | and |
| 20:27.29 | ThothCastel | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/N51Pfey6/ |
| 20:27.51 | ThothCastel | but instead of you can download this image |
| 20:27.52 | ThothCastel | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/el0dhQjg/ |
| 20:28.01 | ThothCastel | and replace its path below |
| 20:28.03 | ThothCastel | :D |
| 20:28.07 | ThothCastel | I am about to test now |
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| 22:28.15 | ThothCastel | oprypin: it didn't work! lol |
| 22:28.35 | ThothCastel | the notification only comes up out of my command when run manually |
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