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00:38.52 | Justin` | Any way to get rid of the ~ : bash title bars on each tiled instance? https://i.imgur.com/VXW8ty5.png |
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00:46.56 | IsaacA-M | not that I'm aware of |
00:47.38 | Justin` | :( |
00:47.50 | Justin` | Where should I put in a feature request so I can have them hidden? |
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00:52.54 | IsaacA-M | Justin`: are you just trying to hide the tab bar? not change the names? |
00:53.16 | IsaacA-M | If you go into Settings -> Configure Konsole you can hide the tab bar |
00:53.32 | IsaacA-M | uploaded an image: image.png (10KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/XPIqZsECzyJEpkeDFRNPfjSh > |
00:54.15 | Justin` | It's not the tab bar. |
00:54.24 | Justin` | It's a split window. |
00:54.45 | Justin` | Also the image link doesn't open on regular IRC if I click it. |
00:55.32 | IsaacA-M | hmm yeah idk anything about split windows |
00:55.35 | IsaacA-M | can make a feature request on bugs.kde.org |
00:56.06 | Justin` | Thanks, will do. |
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01:00.02 | Justin` | Added my votes (not sure how much they're valued) to this one https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409581 |
01:01.37 | JanKusanagi | what do you expect to have in the tab's title? |
01:02.03 | JanKusanagi | that's what the "Tab title format" field in your Konsole profile is for |
01:02.20 | Justin` | It's not a tab. |
01:02.56 | Justin` | It's a Split View. |
01:03.07 | JanKusanagi | regardless, same thing |
01:03.18 | Justin` | I'd like to be able to hide them. |
01:03.22 | Justin` | As per the bug report. |
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01:43.36 | LevelChart8 | Why would my bluetooth headphones show as connected but the sound still plays out of the laptop speakers? |
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02:30.03 | Intelo | In my vnc server, the user is already loggedin. So can a remote client make a connection and share same session? |
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02:53.30 | Intelo | Any help here? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6gfBJTVhhj/ |
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02:55.14 | smallville7123 | are the KDE cursor icons that come shipped with Plasma Desktop free to use? |
02:55.55 | JanKusanagi | check the LICENSE files =) |
02:56.44 | Intelo | any one knows whats wrong here with me? |
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03:01.33 | kiwi_18 | Feeling bad ? Anguish, broken hearted ? Read a Psalm everyday, like Psalm 23, Psalm 38, 40, 50, and others. |
03:01.36 | JanKusanagi | you might need to disable compositing |
03:02.02 | smallville7123 | JanKusanagi: where can i find those? |
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03:02.48 | JanKusanagi | that's up to your distribution, or you could find the source tarballs |
03:04.59 | smallville7123 | ok |
03:06.09 | smallville7123 | anyone know where i can download cursors from? as i tried box-look.org but its downloads just contain files with no extensions such as aerodrop/cursors/db_double_arrow |
03:06.43 | Intelo | Any help here? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6gfBJTVhhj/ |
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03:16.35 | smallville7123 | however Dolphin sais that the type is X11 cursor |
03:17.57 | smallville7123 | and so does file |
03:18.01 | smallville7123 | <PROTECTED> |
03:22.56 | JanKusanagi | "X11 cursor" is what it should be |
03:23.10 | JanKusanagi | Intelo: did you try disabling compositing? |
03:23.56 | Intelo | JanKusanagi: how to dosable composing? |
03:24.16 | JanKusanagi | temporarily, via alt+shift+f12 |
03:24.36 | JanKusanagi | permanently, from... well.. the Compositor section in Plasma's system settings |
03:25.46 | Intelo | JanKusanagi: done, from ui, testing again now |
03:26.56 | Intelo | JanKusanagi: same results |
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03:31.10 | Intelo | JanKusanagi: https://ibb.co/NVd3zNL |
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03:48.49 | Intelo | JanKusanagi: do I need .xinitrc? |
03:59.02 | bullshark-M | How do I create a sticky note on the KDE desktop? The way I've been using is dragging text from Firefox to the desktop. There's got to be another way. |
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04:08.50 | Intelo | How do I switch to xfce for some user. I have kde and xfce both installed on ubuntu? |
04:09.25 | Daskreech | Intelo: Log out and choose your environment from the login screen |
04:10.17 | Intelo | Daskreech: I do not see any choice for env there |
04:15.02 | bullshark-M | Intelo: The login manager should allow you to pick xfce or kde. |
04:15.36 | Intelo | bullshark-M: doesnt. I am loggin, is there any settings in kde? |
04:15.50 | Intelo | that I can go to an make sure it has a list of displays/desktops |
04:19.21 | Justin` | Intelo: Each desktop supplies an xsessions file, the display manager would look for those. |
04:19.33 | Justin` | Check in /usr/share/xsessions/ |
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04:22.35 | Intelo | Justin`: ok, checking. a) can I work without a display manager? shoot myself to console at login and manually type whatever desktop I want to run? |
04:22.41 | Intelo | https://ibb.co/WyrTDdx |
04:23.48 | Intelo | Justin`: btw, its there but I do not get an option to select xfce at login: $ cat /usr/share/xsessions/ |
04:24.26 | Intelo | plasma.desktop xfce.desktop |
04:24.29 | Intelo | ls* ^ |
04:27.41 | bullshark-M | ~/.xinitrc and startx |
04:29.23 | Intelo | bullshark-M: what to have in .xinitrc? |
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04:33.06 | Intelo | Can't I live without a sesion manager, get to console and start whatever I want. KDE or xfce or another |
04:33.14 | Intelo | Daskreech: ^ |
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04:37.40 | Justin` | You can but it's stupid. |
04:37.44 | Justin` | IMHO. |
04:38.02 | Justin` | Pretty sure you can run startxfce4 (or variation of that). |
04:38.12 | Justin` | As for plasma no idea how you'd start that, I sanely use a DM. :D |
04:38.38 | Intelo | Justin`: a) how to delete session manager b) how to run startxfce4 |
04:40.51 | Justin` | Why don't you want a display manager? |
04:42.28 | Intelo | Justin`: because its not letting me use xfce. No choice at login screen |
04:42.46 | Intelo | Justin`: also https://ibb.co/WyrTDdx |
04:42.49 | Justin` | Then talk to Ubuntu because you've got the xsession files. |
04:43.37 | Intelo | Justin`: $ ls /usr/share/xsessions plasma.desktop xfce.desktop |
04:43.40 | Justin` | Exactly. |
04:43.50 | Intelo | but it don't show me choice at startup |
04:44.03 | Justin` | So GDM (Gnome Display Manager) should be showing you other options. I think you have to select your user account then it'll give oyu the option. |
04:44.30 | Intelo | Justin`: ok, so if I press ctrl+alt+f2, how can I just start xfce? |
04:44.33 | Justin` | See https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/705123/39502850-dc32dd78-4dc2-11e8-872b-f242c463ac70.png |
04:45.44 | Justin` | In that dropdown you should have Plasma and XFCE. |
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04:46.52 | Intelo | checking |
04:47.11 | Intelo | Justin`: most important question till then: so if I press ctrl+alt+f2, how can I just start xfce? |
04:47.19 | Justin` | Run the command I said, startxfce4 |
04:47.34 | Intelo | Justin`: it takes me to a blank screen |
04:47.36 | Justin` | But don't, just start it via GDM. |
04:48.00 | Intelo | Justin`: I should be able to start it with command as I also have vnc settings |
04:48.21 | Justin` | It's Ubuntu who knows what the problem is but this channel is for Plasma support. |
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04:58.56 | Daskreech | Intelo: I wouldn't start a rich thing like multiple multiple processes in a desktop from the command line. I did it for 2 years while testing KDE4 and it's instructive but really annoying and not representative of what the expectation the devs have |
04:59.39 | Daskreech | There is a reason that there is software just to manage this |
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05:08.08 | Justin` | Amen. |
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05:22.40 | Intelo | Daskreech: isn't starting a desktop env by just one single command? startxfce4 or startkde? |
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05:28.12 | Daskreech | Intelo: Yes but it won't start many other things. Window managers etc |
05:36.39 | Justin` | It's an archaic way of launching a desktop. |
05:36.52 | Justin` | Every major distro uses display managers. |
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05:44.30 | Daskreech | ^^ For a reason |
05:45.03 | Daskreech | Again you can do it from CLI but understand that you probably will not get what is expected from a "normal" users perspective |
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05:48.44 | djustice | just logout and from sddm -> start new session. |
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06:07.31 | SysGhost | Heya. I wonder... are there alternatives to plasmashell? I want to keep using KDE, but in the current state plasmashell is quite buggy when it comes to multiscreen setups. |
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06:31.10 | Daskreech | SysGhost: In theory they can be but I'm not sure how many actually viable alternatives there are |
06:32.23 | SysGhost | I've been experimenting with fluxbox, i3 and others. But they're also replacing kwin, as they're window managers rather than workspace managers. |
06:33.06 | SysGhost | It's kinda neat mixing these things up. But... things do tend to have that Frankensteins Monster feel to it. |
06:33.30 | Daskreech | SysGhost: Welcome to FOSS :-) |
06:34.05 | SysGhost | I hope the mutliscreen bugs are ironed out soon. They've been with me for some time now, and recently the mainstream distributions got hit by those bugs too. (Ubuntu among others) |
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06:35.16 | Daskreech | Put in bug reports? |
06:35.25 | SysGhost | I have |
06:35.39 | SysGhost | Following a few bugs that's been around for ome years now |
06:35.44 | SysGhost | some* |
06:36.58 | djustice | dimethylaminorex them bugs. |
06:38.47 | SysGhost | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416739 <-- see comment 21 . bugs.kde.org has a bunch of very related bugs reported, yet to be marked as duplicates. |
06:39.10 | djustice | SysGhost: i've used multiscreen plasma setups successfully.. nothing exotic or weird tho. |
06:39.22 | SysGhost | ...aslo comment 19 |
06:40.44 | SysGhost | djustice: all my multiscreen setups behave the same. as described in comment 19. Two laptops (nvidia, intel) and a stationary (amd radeon). All uses Arch. A friend also experience thise very thing. He uses Ubuntu 20.04 on an nvidia machine. |
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06:45.23 | SysGhost | Oddly the primary screen never bugs out. It's always the non primary outputs that gets randomized. |
06:46.36 | djustice | SysGhost: looks like a missing signal somewhere. a kconfig sync is missing a hardware change. and/or plasma is missing it. |
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06:47.18 | djustice | SysGhost: you'll have to find 'the guy' who's name is atop some of the responsible code. otherwise you'll probably get no progress. |
06:47.44 | djustice | bug indexes don't get as much done as emails. |
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06:48.45 | SysGhost | Well.. How do one even get into this type of debugging? It is a bit to ask for someone who isn't that well versed in the source codes of KDE. |
06:49.26 | djustice | i've had this exactly issue before. |
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06:51.43 | djustice | ask around in #kde-devel (politely) for names of the authors of any possibly related code. i know martin gräÃlin can possibly point you somewhere helpful. |
06:52.37 | djustice | if he has time. dfaure may have a clue. dario freddi did some powermanagement stuff, possibly he knows where a display hardware change signal is located.. |
06:55.35 | djustice | https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin or github.com/KDE |
06:56.08 | djustice | i recall when kde used subversion... i don't even know where the official kde-playground source is anymore. ;/ |
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07:00.39 | Justin` | SysGhost: I've had no issues with multiple monitors. |
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07:08.16 | SysGhost | Justin`: Some don't have any isses. Some do. Those who don't have the issue can't reconstruct the bug either. |
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07:12.00 | Daskreech | Yeah I had a bug like that for three years till I spoke with the dev and walked through the sequence that triggered it. Eventually got the data required and it was fixed. Being able to have the bug and recreate it is quite helpful |
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07:16.34 | Justin` | Yeah bugs that are hard to recreate are no fun. |
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07:17.45 | Daskreech | Or impossible with the dev's build/hardware/environment |
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07:18.49 | Justin` | It's where donations really come in handy to get common hardware for testing. |
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07:22.01 | Daskreech | Yeah. Reminds me of them removing Floppy drive support from the Linux kernel because the dev maintainer could not find a real floppy drive to test with and so just removed actual hardware support for it. |
07:22.51 | Justin` | Floppy drives are certainly needing to go but the USB ones are still around and still have a driver in the kernel. |
07:23.27 | Daskreech | Yeah. Real ones are gone. Emulated ones are still in and sit on top of the USB kernel device |
07:23.35 | Daskreech | <PROTECTED> |
07:24.02 | Justin` | I think it's well passed due that users empty their floppy disks onto regular disks or optical media (ugh). |
07:24.34 | Justin` | If others were asking for support I'd worry about OT :D |
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07:30.36 | Daskreech | Justin`: You've always got that one Govt building that has not updated it's anything since 1876 and needs hardware support for it's Floppy drive to pull up last year's taxes |
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07:33.27 | Justin` | Honestly they deserve the pain of having to figure it out. |
07:33.59 | Justin` | It sucks that it's often government departments and the tax payer often fits the million dollar bill to pay some rare expert to come in and sort it out. |
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07:42.09 | Daskreech | Well I mean they did have a Govt move over to Linux on the desktop and had to pay experts to come sort it out as well so *shrugs* |
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07:44.06 | SysGhost | Talking of floppy drives. heh.. I actuually have one USB floppy drive from HP that I use to sync files to/from my Atari and Amiga computers. (Yeah... Im a retro-sucker ;) ) |
07:44.41 | SysGhost | I really hope support for those won't go away any time soon. |
07:44.52 | SysGhost | (from the kernel that is ) |
07:46.29 | Justin` | SysGhost: Play your games on an emulator, makes it future proof. |
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07:47.39 | SysGhost | *pff* ... emulators are no fun. The real deal experience is half the enjoyment. |
07:48.02 | SysGhost | But I do use emulators to get things done quickly and then sync it over the the actual hardware |
07:48.19 | Justin` | Well make your you make plenty of copies of that floppy as backup as the kernel driver will eventually disappear I i magine. |
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07:50.32 | SysGhost | Yeah I suspect it will... although.. .being part of the USB core system / UMS there shouldn't really be a need to remove it. |
07:50.49 | SysGhost | That native floppy controllers are removed I understand. |
07:51.21 | Justin` | If they are in there as USB mass storage I can see it being kept otherwise it'll eventually be fat that will be trimmed. |
07:51.42 | Justin` | Granted someone may keep the code alive as a kernel module out of tree. |
07:57.12 | Corbit | Hi. Anyone has an idea on these 3 problems? https://dpaste.org/SxEV |
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08:00.20 | SysGhost | Corbit: for the third one: KDE has this restore session, which restores konsole. the terminal (konsole) itself has no recollection of what was run in the past and have no connection to KDE's session management. Do you want weechat to be relaunched each time you login into KDE? |
08:02.19 | SysGhost | ...if so, create a new autostart with the command: "konsole -e weechat". |
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08:07.14 | SysGhost | Corbit: ...and as for the device manager... Not entirely sure what you're aiming for there. A partition manager? or a device manager? |
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08:10.23 | Corbit | SysGhost: Thanks. Weechat is already autostarted with "weechat %u". Is there a difference in your way doing it, like reuse an opened konsole? |
08:10.45 | SysGhost | And as for 2: Same deal there as with 3: The session manager only remember the application itself. Not how it's being run at the moment. To really have a true "pickup where you left off" experience I recommend using hibernation instead of power off. |
08:11.54 | Corbit | The device manager lists several partitions that aren't "useable" because they are from another OS. So I want to hide/ignore them. |
08:12.06 | SysGhost | Corbit: konsole have options to reuse existing sessions of itself. But it depends on how you want it. That can create a situation where a previous empty konsole session just opens another tab.. .and keeps doing that until you have way too many konsole-tabs. |
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08:13.05 | SysGhost | It's the "device manager" bit I don't get. which application do you refer to there? afaik there's no "device manager" in kde. (I can be wrong though) |
08:13.07 | Corbit | SysGhost: Yeah that's what's happening now with weechat now. |
08:13.46 | SysGhost | Corbit: For what you want the hibernation is a much better alternative than KDE's session manager. |
08:14.11 | SysGhost | Personally I turn the whole session manager off, and rely on autostart of everything I really need each time. |
08:14.44 | SysGhost | the session manager is very limited to what it can restore. |
08:16.15 | SysGhost | KDE don't communicate with application on that level. It only remember what application was ran at which position and size. Not how it was run or what it had opened previously. |
08:16.48 | SysGhost | ...for that hibernation is much better. |
08:17.08 | Corbit | SysGhost: Ok great. Will look into that. Your information how KDE is handling it helps a lot in understanding. With "device manager" I meant this https://imgur.com/a/sME0JYU |
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08:18.11 | SysGhost | Ah.. the device notifier. |
08:19.09 | Corbit | Oh. Yes. The drives are also listed in dolphin. |
08:19.58 | SysGhost | Right-click the device notifier icon. Then choose "Configure Device Notifier"... in the windows that pops up you have an option for "Removable devices only" |
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08:20.53 | Intelo | I am on xfce but still see http.so kdeinit5 taking cpu at top. Why would that be? |
08:22.35 | Corbit | SysGhost: It's already set this way. It may interprets the partitions as removable devices. |
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09:07.17 | throwthecheese | Yesterday my PDF readers started to render some PDFs incorrectly |
09:08.41 | throwthecheese | All of a sudden, text like class names disappeared from my botany slides |
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09:09.26 | throwthecheese | I tried to open the files with a PDF reader other than Okular with the same result |
09:09.42 | throwthecheese | Can changing the system-wide locale affect PDF rendering? |
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09:15.49 | Bitterblue | You can test that by changing the relevant environment variables, like running "LANG=en_US.UTF-8 okular" for example. Run "locale" to see a list of variables to try. |
09:17.42 | Bitterblue | But yes, changing the locale can break things. See: programs malfunctioning because some locales use the dot as decimal separator, while others use the comma. |
09:19.04 | throwthecheese | I had to set all of my locale settings to Japanese because my system started to ignore for per-application numeric settings for some reason |
09:19.45 | throwthecheese | Then all of a sudden, my PDF readers started erasing text randomly from my systematic botany PDFs |
09:20.25 | throwthecheese | I tried to load a backup copy, but the problem persists |
09:21.31 | throwthecheese | The files aren't affected if I open them on my other system which is also configured to have a Japanese locale |
09:22.24 | throwthecheese | Is it possible that my PDF rendering libraries are acting up? |
09:23.39 | throwthecheese | tries to reinstall PDF libraries in hopes that it would fix the issue |
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09:33.22 | Bitterblue | 𤷠|
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09:37.54 | throwthecheese | I tried to reinstall poppler but to no avail as I still get text erased from my slides |
09:37.59 | RhineDevil | I have a string in clipboard (I can see it through the clipboard addon) but when I try to paste it it pastes the last thing I copied and pasted in konsole, how could I solve it? |
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09:44.49 | throwthecheese | The only PDF viewer that can display those PDFs properly is muPDF, which sucks big time |
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10:12.50 | pa | where has the gtk theme gone in settings? |
10:13.03 | pa | bloody breeze dark for gtk makes the apps unusable |
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10:14.21 | pa | found |
10:14.30 | pa | i wish this was possible "per application" |
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10:41.37 | davidv7 | hi, is there any way to make the "expose all windows" scriptable? meaning right click does something completely arbitrary with a window? like moves it to the other monitor? |
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10:46.14 | davidv7 | someone familiar with the development of that might know if such a thing is even possible to implement through a patch? |
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13:01.27 | JohnMS_WORK | Does anyone have some good resources on starting to work with KDE projects? |
13:01.51 | JohnMS_WORK | I'm looking into possibly resurecting a near dead project. |
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13:38.29 | mzajc | I'm trying to get juk (the kde music player) to work on debian bullseye, but it simply won't work. whenever I input something in the search bar, it crashes due to a segmentation fault. the last element in the backtrace is "QTreeWidgetItem::setHidden(bool) () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Widgets.so.5". I've also tried building it myself to no avail. buster release works, but I prefer not to mix stable and testing. tell me if you need the full |
13:38.31 | mzajc | backtrace, I don't know if it could be of any use so I'm not gonna post it |
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13:40.02 | asturm | works fine here, fwiw, but that's being way ahead of debian |
13:41.35 | mzajc | I did rebuild it from git master, however I did not rebuild the dependencies along with it |
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13:48.36 | davidv7 | mzajc: juk never worked for me across 4 different distros, i have long since given up |
13:48.44 | davidv7 | it never even launched for me, just segfaulted. |
13:49.53 | mzajc | aww. it did use to work just fine back when buster was testing, and using juk from that release still works, in fact, but I'd rather not use it since mixing releases is unrecommended |
13:50.31 | davidv7 | Honestly, I stick to VLC/MPV for my music needs. |
13:50.32 | mzajc | and to be honest, I have yet to find an alternative. I usually stick with vlc when it doesn't work, but vlc sucks at scanning and searching through media |
13:50.39 | JanKusanagi | it might be "unrecommended", but if you install this one non-critical program and it works... |
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13:50.46 | davidv7 | I have it installed for video anyways, so might as well use it. |
13:50.51 | davidv7 | Scanning for media how? |
13:51.14 | mzajc | giving it a folder and telling it to display all music in there, recursively |
13:51.31 | mzajc | JanKusanagi: yes, but it will probably break eventually due to libraries breaking backwards compatibility |
13:51.52 | JanKusanagi | so you're not even going to try based on some hunch? |
13:52.25 | mzajc | I am doing it that way right not, but I'd rather switch to the testing release of juk |
13:52.28 | mzajc | *now |
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13:52.53 | mzajc | > buster release works, but I prefer not to mix stable and testing |
13:52.58 | JanKusanagi | on GNU, usually when a (well done) library breaks ABI or API, it usually changes soname, so you'll still have libsomething1 for your older program, and libsomething2 for your newer ones |
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13:54.02 | mzajc | that is true, but I have had issues with kde libraries breaking compatibility in the past, though it could've been just me doing something wrong |
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14:00.44 | davidv7 | mzajc: Tools -> Preferences -> All -> Playlist -> Subdirectory Behavior -> Expand |
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14:02.10 | mzajc | oh, that's pretty neat |
14:02.11 | mzajc | thanks |
14:02.28 | davidv7 | although i should say i'm not some VLC power user, i pay for youtube music kek |
14:02.37 | davidv7 | but that was more than enough for my needs |
14:02.48 | mzajc | invidious |
14:02.50 | mzajc | easy |
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14:25.34 | yates | when i try to do a screenshot, i get an error ".../usr/bin/ksnapshot does not exist", and i cannot find a fedora 31 package for ksnapshot - how can i fix? |
14:28.42 | josef64 | yates: it is already fixed in your crossposting |
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14:42.45 | sigNeon | anyone know if there is a password protected folder creator for KDE like there is for gnomes gnome-encfs-manager ?? |
14:43.15 | JanKusanagi | I guess you want Plasma Vault |
14:43.41 | JanKusanagi | which creates _encrypted_ "folders" |
14:43.43 | sigNeon | ok thank you JanKusanagi |
14:44.09 | sigNeon | this is an application? |
14:44.41 | JanKusanagi | well, it's a "something" integrated into the Plasma Desktop |
14:44.49 | JanKusanagi | I think it works as a plasmoid |
14:45.04 | sigNeon | ok I'll look in settings |
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14:45.16 | JanKusanagi | probably inside the system tray, besides standalone |
14:47.21 | sigNeon | not really wanting another systray icon |
14:47.24 | sigNeon | lol |
14:48.01 | sigNeon | just want to create certain passwd protected folders with the simplicity of right clicking and creating passwd protected folder |
14:48.41 | JanKusanagi | I doubt you'll find something simpler than Plasma Vault... but whatever |
14:50.18 | sigNeon | cryptkeeper seems to be a better choice for what I need |
14:50.23 | sigNeon | thanks JanKusanagi |
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15:49.38 | iambouali | hello |
15:51.06 | iambouali | one question, someone know why alt + mouse click to move windows not work in debain testing with kde? |
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15:52.03 | JanKusanagi | theres' a setting for that in Plasma's system settings, maybe you changed it somehow? |
15:52.19 | JanKusanagi | I doubt Debian changed Plasma's defaults, but who knows... worth checking |
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15:59.46 | spippi | hi at all |
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16:02.11 | spippi | i haved a problem with KInfoCenter i can't see the last menu, can you help me? |
16:03.37 | JanKusanagi | menu? |
16:03.53 | JanKusanagi | do you mean the stuff listed in the side panel? |
16:04.01 | JanKusanagi | there's no menu bar AFAIK |
16:05.53 | spippi | https://ibb.co/w49nLfH |
16:06.09 | spippi | yes left panel please see the picture thanks |
16:08.09 | spippi | below monitor |
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16:08.46 | spippi | i have a fresh install of arch, i think anything is missing, but i don't know what |
16:08.54 | JanKusanagi | yep, same thing happens to me |
16:09.17 | JanKusanagi | not sure if it started with some Frameworks update, or with some Plasma update |
16:10.00 | asturm | looks like you are missing 'detailed information' |
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16:12.02 | asturm | same versions here except Plasma 5.19 instead of 5.18.5 |
16:13.32 | spippi | is missing only the title |
16:13.35 | spippi | https://i.imgur.com/lF3SMDi.png |
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16:16.59 | ArtGravity | I am missing groups when I open Konsole from Dolphin using "Actions/Open Terminal Here" versus simply launching Konsole directly. The missing groups are those added to my account by /etc/goup.conf Any idea how to make shells in Konsole opened from Dolphin have the correct group membership? |
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17:03.18 | Azimoth | Hi, for some reason whenever I use "open with" the default app to open said file(type) changes. Is there a way to prevent that? |
17:04.19 | JanKusanagi | do you mean one of the listed programs under the "Open with..." submenu... |
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17:04.30 | JanKusanagi | or going to "other..." and selecting one there? |
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17:05.56 | Azimoth | I meant selecting one under the open with submenu... I wanted to open a jpg with Krita this time, but not all jpgs in general |
17:06.22 | JanKusanagi | that shouldn't change the default, no |
17:06.30 | JanKusanagi | unless Krita is doing it on its own, which I doubt |
17:06.55 | Azimoth | It's the the same for opening a PDF with Okular or Evince... doesn't depend on Krita |
17:07.12 | JanKusanagi | never happened to me |
17:11.59 | Azimoth | JanKusanagi I think I figured it out... If I go to Properties and explicitly set a default this default isn't changed anymore. If I only use "open with" it continues to use the program last selected... would that make sense? |
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17:15.20 | Azimoth | So unless there is an explicit default, it picks the most recent choice |
17:16.42 | Azimoth | (Apparently my system doesn't have fix defaults set out of the box, only a prioritized list of compatible programs |
17:16.44 | Azimoth | ) |
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17:19.06 | JanKusanagi | a prioritized list is what anyone has |
17:19.14 | JanKusanagi | simply the first one in that list is the default |
17:20.02 | JanKusanagi | maybe the list changes by "recent use" if you've never reordered the list yourself, which I do for most formats |
17:22.58 | Azimoth | Hm... for testing I selected an mp3 to be opened with audacity, so now all mp3s are opened with Audacity when doubleclicked. Before VLC was the program of choice. Looking at the list in the Settings Elisa is on top, so the list doesn't seem to mean much in my case... |
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17:25.08 | JanKusanagi | O_o |
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17:50.21 | Chaekyung | Azimoth: KDE uses the freedesktop standard, same as everyone else. Your $HOME/.config/mimeapps.list is what KDE Plasma uses and also what changing the default in say Dolphin is supposed to change. |
17:51.14 | Chaekyung | Azimoth: mimeapps.list should have a [Added Associations] section on top and a [Default Applications] secton on the bottom. Perhaps yours got messed up somehow |
17:52.41 | Chaekyung | though I do find it odd that Open With.. would touch that file at all |
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17:55.55 | Azimoth | Chaekyung: "Open with" seems to edit the "[Added Associations]" part, but leaves [Default Applications] untouched |
17:56.54 | Azimoth | and the [default applications] basically only lists firefox so far plus what I added when I used "Properties" to set a default as I said above... |
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17:58.33 | Azimoth | So the [Default Applications] part is empty apparently... (which is not a problem, I just didn't know about that and was wondering, why things happened the way they did) |
17:58.59 | Azimoth | For the record: I'm on Gentoo, maybe things are slightly different here -.-' |
18:01.41 | Chaekyung | It does absolutely make senese that Open With... adds to [Added Associations] so programs know you're fine with opening a file extension in a program. Though that would only make it "default" because the order is changed, it makes it default in practice but not in theory/configuration |
18:01.58 | Chaekyung | the reason you do get a new default is that you apparently don't have any set default |
18:04.12 | Chaekyung | out of curiousity, do you have xdg-mime from the xdg-utils package? |
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22:22.59 | davidv7 | is there a channel switcher for konversation? |
22:23.12 | davidv7 | something that would open up a search field, and find me the channel with that name |
22:23.24 | davidv7 | similar to Present ALl Windows search in KDE |
22:24.44 | davidv7 | or ctrl-k in discord |
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22:43.54 | oprypin | davidv7, try Quassel ð¬ |
22:48.09 | Justin` | If you need a search for IRC channels you're in then there's too many :D |
22:48.32 | davidv7 | Justin`: i guess |
22:49.02 | davidv7 | if IRC by default had some sort of auto-history then i wouldn't need to be in 20 servers at once |
22:49.31 | JanKusanagi | 20 _servers_? xD |
22:53.01 | Justin` | Time to move onto platforms that support history, Telegram, discord, etc. |
22:54.00 | JanKusanagi | silo, and silo.... yikes |
22:54.11 | asturm | sigh... |
22:54.17 | Justin` | Linux distributions need to be a little bit more pragmatic about things to attract new blood. IRC is old and doesn't support many things that new users expect. |
22:54.29 | Justin` | Oh it's JanKusanagi, sigh and sigh. |
22:54.34 | JanKusanagi | this channel is not about any "Linux distribution" |
22:54.44 | asturm | reminds me about the discussions that Gentoo needs an installer |
22:54.48 | asturm | no thanks. |
22:54.48 | JanKusanagi | and also, this channel is bridget to a OH SO MODERN AND SHINY Matrix roo |
22:54.50 | JanKusanagi | m |
22:54.54 | JanKusanagi | *bridged |
22:55.12 | Justin` | JanKusanagi: Yeah but Matrix is pretty damn average, I've tried many clients and they're all crap in one way or another. |
22:55.27 | JanKusanagi | at least it's not a crappy proprietary silo |
22:55.36 | Justin` | At least they're not paranoid nutcases. :) |
22:56.02 | JanKusanagi | no wonder the world is going to crap xD |
22:56.07 | Justin` | Indeed. |
22:58.00 | Dwarf | asturm: it already has an installer! |
22:58.10 | asturm | nevarr! |
22:58.11 | Dwarf | It's right between the keyboard and chair |
22:58.14 | asturm | hehe |
22:58.31 | Justin` | It'd be great to see IRC networks implement their own local bouncers, that'd get it halfway there. |
22:58.45 | Dwarf | Rizon has one |
22:58.57 | Justin` | Time to get Freenode on board. |
22:59.45 | Dwarf | It's not that easy I'm afraid. It's a lot of extra overhead |
22:59.55 | asturm | talk is cheap |
23:00.44 | Dwarf | Bandwidth, not so much |
23:01.55 | JanKusanagi | I remember installing Gentoo via a LiveCD back in... 2007~8 |
23:02.04 | JanKusanagi | how official that was, I can't say; I guess not much xD |
23:02.13 | JanKusanagi | but it was clicky-clicky |
23:03.39 | asturm | pff |
23:04.43 | kevincs | oprypin: quassel is great indeed, I used znc for about 10 years before, not going back :) |
23:04.51 | davidv7 | Justin`: i use IRC for a few twitch chats too |
23:05.17 | davidv7 | discord jsut hasn't had the adoption from the right people yet, telegram I use for work and wouldn't want to mix that with hobby-chatrooms |
23:06.28 | asturm | please stop advocating proprietary services |
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23:07.04 | Justin` | asturm: Why? |
23:07.56 | asturm | because we keep control of our data |
23:08.07 | Justin` | That's fine, it's your data. I am in charge of my data. |
23:08.19 | Justin` | Where I send that is my own choice. |
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23:08.58 | asturm | that is your private prerogative |
23:09.13 | Justin` | And you're trying to stifle free speech by restricting it in here? |
23:09.35 | asturm | ah, that argument. |
23:11.13 | asturm | what a time to be alive |
23:11.18 | Justin` | Indeed. |
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23:15.23 | Justin` | Solus 4.1, Plasma 5.18.5/Frameworks 5.70.0 - Anyone had issues where Tap to Click gets disabled somehow? It's still ticked in settings but won't work, I have to untick, apply, tick, apply. |
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23:18.21 | JanKusanagi | now I wish I could read both sides of that conversation xD |
23:18.58 | Justin` | Ah found the bug, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419533 |
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23:38.30 | asturm | JanKusanagi: it's a free speech issue. |
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23:58.21 | JanKusanagi | so you're not talking to yourself then? good to know xD |
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