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| 00:16.03 | oprypin | burakcank: there's no good way |
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| 01:24.08 | SirNapkin1334 | hello, System Settings automatically starts on boot and i don't know why. it happened randomly, i didn't change anything in autostart as far as i know. also, it's not in autostart, in autostart there are only 3 applications which i explicitly set and are not system settings. |
| 01:25.03 | jankusanagi_ | you probably have a saved session |
| 01:29.59 | SirNapkin1334 | is that when it reopens the windows that were open when you shut down? |
| 01:41.09 | jankusanagi_ | yes |
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| 03:01.31 | pieq | Hello! |
| 03:01.32 | pieq | I've seen this news: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/08/kde-neon-ubuntu-20-04-download |
| 03:01.39 | pieq | and I'd like to understand the differences between Kubuntu and KDE Neon. If both are based upon Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, and both are using KDE, what differences do they offer? |
| 03:01.46 | pieq | It looks like KDE Neon has a "rolling release" approach with regards to KDE itself. Is that all? |
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| 03:10.31 | mefistofeles | probably |
| 03:19.45 | pieq | https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?t=130867#p350765 |
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| 06:25.16 | Keeperax | I have the latest Kali + KDE and certain web pages make it crash and my application windows disappear. I am also unable to focus windows and when I start typing I don't type within the app window but in the search instead |
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| 07:20.59 | Keeperax | So it's KWin that's crashing |
| 07:21.10 | Keeperax | This only happens when I visit certain websites |
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| 07:21.42 | Keeperax | My guess is that those with emoji's and other abnormal characters that might not be UTF-8 appear in the window title and this makes it crash |
| 07:21.44 | xyquadrat | Keeperax: Well, could you take a look at the system logs? dmesg/journalctl/etc |
| 07:22.12 | xyquadrat | And could you give an example of such a site |
| 07:22.13 | xyquadrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.58 | Keeperax | xyquadrat: Yeah, this one: https://github.com/Redocly/redoc |
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| 07:23.51 | xyquadrat | Okay... Opening this here does not crash anything (KWin 5.19.80) |
| 07:25.26 | xyquadrat | Kali seems to be on 5.17.5, which despite not being ancient, is still nearly a year old |
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| 07:27.36 | Keeperax | Happens on every web browser |
| 07:27.56 | Keeperax | Nothing specific in error logs |
| 07:28.10 | Keeperax | Guess I'll have to debug kwin independently somehow |
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| 07:31.47 | Keeperax | xyquadrat: Yeah, it's the emojis |
| 07:33.24 | Keeperax | qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 18872, resource id: 75497665, major code: 3 (GetWindowAttributes), minor code: 0 |
| 07:33.24 | Keeperax | malloc(): invalid size (unsorted) |
| 07:33.24 | Keeperax | Application::crashHandler() called with signal 6; recent crashes: 1 |
| 07:33.24 | Keeperax | Alarm clock |
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| 07:34.08 | Keeperax | xyquadrat: There's a bug report on this: https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-bugs-dist@kde.org/msg422256.html |
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| 07:36.10 | Keeperax | Yeah, KWin 5.18 has it fixed |
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| 07:40.09 | xyquadrat | Keeperax: Probably https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417699 then. That's fixed in 5.18, so you'll have to wait until Kali/Debian updates to 5.18+ |
| 07:41.05 | Keeperax | Damn it, why are they lagging behind on versions that are years old |
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| 07:43.00 | xyquadrat | Keeperax: Probably https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417699 then. That's fixed in 5.18, so you'll have to wait until Kali/Debian updates to 5.18+ |
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| 10:46.57 | rindolf | dknight: hi |
| 10:47.08 | rindolf | dknight: in different users it is |
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| 10:48.27 | dknight | rindolf: oh, so it is not possible for same user to have multiple sessions ? |
| 10:48.44 | rindolf | dknight: maybe it is |
| 10:51.56 | jankusanagi_ | what would be the point of that? |
| 10:55.38 | dknight | jankusanagi_: for separating contexts |
| 10:55.57 | jankusanagi_ | that's what activities (or even simple virtual desktops) are for |
| 10:56.17 | jankusanagi_ | no need to run two instances of Plasma, with all the overhead that would mean |
| 10:58.26 | dknight | jankusanagi_: can I have 2 firefox instances running in 2 different activities ? |
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| 11:09.48 | rindolf | dknight: yes, using ff profiles |
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| 11:27.43 | dknight | rindolf: thanks for the tip. it seems to me that ff profiles have to be manually created. is it possible to create a profile when a new activity is created ? |
| 11:28.11 | rindolf | dknight: maybe |
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| 11:36.35 | blight_ | hi guys |
| 11:37.07 | blight_ | i am trying to build ktexteditor and i wonder if there is any way to cut down on all the dependencies because i just need it as a text editor for my app, so i dont need karchive support etc i would assume |
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| 11:39.05 | jankusanagi_ | try #kde-devel |
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| 11:40.31 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 11:48.47 | dknight | rindolf: I am interested to know what applications can be spawned safely in 2 different activities parallely. I want a email client, code editor and console probably to start. any suggestions of profile aware software ? |
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| 11:55.11 | tanriol-M | I have an application that sometimes produces short notification-like sounds. How can I mute them? With apps that play something long I can use a number of options in either Settings or `pavucontrol`, and the target device / volume / mute state is remembered, but I don't see any way to remember the "muted" state when the target application is not playing sound right now. |
| 11:55.26 | rindolf | dknight: profiles are a firefox thing |
| 11:57.17 | dknight | rindolf: is the activities feature based on XSM ? |
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| 11:58.34 | rindolf | dknight: what is XSM? |
| 12:01.14 | dknight | rindolf: also that means generally activities wont have multiple instances of same app running parallely? ff seems to be an exception right ? |
| 12:01.24 | dknight | rindolf: XSM is X session manager |
| 12:02.26 | rindolf | dknight: some apps can be instantiated |
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| 12:03.29 | dknight | rindolf: can you name a few please ? |
| 12:06.00 | Bitterblue | tanriol-M: The settings are probably stored in ~/.config/pulse/XXX-stream-volumes.tdb, so you could edit that if you find a way. |
| 12:06.12 | dknight | rindolf: that is the inspiration for separate sessions by same user actually |
| 12:06.53 | rindolf | dknight: konsole, tmux, gnu tar, gwenview, dolphin, vlc, mpv |
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| 12:10.53 | Bitterblue | dknight: Thunderbird also uses profiles. |
| 12:10.58 | dknight | rindolf: should I initialize them as usual ? |
| 12:11.15 | rindolf | dknight: what? |
| 12:11.48 | dknight | rindolf: I meant do I need to specify any profile for dolphin ? |
| 12:12.02 | rindolf | dknight: no |
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| 12:12.49 | rindolf | dknight: you just create a new dolphin window |
| 12:14.02 | dknight | rindolf: cool. thanks |
| 12:14.13 | rindolf | dknight: you're welcome |
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| 12:50.13 | TheRealJohnGalt | To get a better log of a kwin crash for a bug report, I need to build kwin and qt as debug packages I assume. What else? |
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| 13:07.25 | rindolf | TheRealJohnGalt: hi, what is your distro? |
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| 13:13.33 | TheRealJohnGalt | rindolf: gentoo. I was on 5.19.4, but did a full upgrade yesterday to current git master to see if my issue was already fixed. I'm comfortable rebuilding packages as debug, just not sure if there's a standard set people rebuild for logs like these (to save some time on my end). |
| 13:14.55 | rindolf | TheRealJohnGalt: well, mageia and fedora [and other distros that have binary packages] have debug packages |
| 13:16.19 | TheRealJohnGalt | rindolf: right, it's pretty easy for me to rebuild them as debug, just not sure what packages I should for my crash? I assumed kwin and qt, but not sure what else. It's a kwin crash that only occurs when a monitor powers off on wayland. I also recreated it on 5.19.4 on arch linux. |
| 13:17.47 | rindolf | TheRealJohnGalt: kwin has some kf5 build deps |
| 13:20.00 | TheRealJohnGalt | gotcha, guess I'll figure it out. ty. |
| 13:21.46 | rindolf | TheRealJohnGalt: you're welcome |
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| 14:53.58 | TheRealJohnGalt | Any cli tools to change resolution/refresh on wayland? Like gnome has gnome-monitor-config for wayland. |
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| 14:58.15 | JanKusanagi | the KScreen cli tools |
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| 15:48.54 | ctOS | Hi. Will the Flatpak version of Kontact be updated? It seems to be over a year out of date. https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.kde.kontact |
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| 16:56.06 | TheRealJohnGalt | JanKusanagi: ty, any examples? Assuming kscreen-console would be used for this? |
| 16:56.29 | TheRealJohnGalt | oh I guess kscreen-doctor actually |
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| 17:00.04 | Malsasa-M | Hello, greetings to all and respects to admins Bhusha Carl Schwan . Thanks for this amazing place I love KDE. |
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| 18:12.13 | RunLevelRobot-M | Does konsole have a drop down terminal by chance? |
| 18:13.27 | JanKusanagi | that's precisely what Yakuake is |
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| 19:05.02 | Bitterblue | How can I make notifications from Chromium show up even when Youtube in Firefox is full screen, or mpv is full screen? |
| 19:05.17 | Bitterblue | Or some kind of noise would also work. |
| 19:09.36 | wsky | can i get support for clementine here? |
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| 19:16.21 | Bitterblue | You can try. |
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| 19:26.05 | wsky | i've set it to use socks proxy but it does not use it |
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| 19:29.26 | JanKusanagi | I don't think Clementine is made by KDE... |
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| 19:53.49 | RunLevelRobot-M | <JanKusanagi "that's precisely what Yakuake is"> oh ok great thanks! |
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| 19:54.35 | wsky | JanKusanagi: that's why i asked |
| 19:54.43 | wsky | it origins from amarok 1.4 |
| 19:55.48 | blacksamurai | Hi |
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| 19:58.11 | blacksamurai | can i discuss a bug i found here? |
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| 20:53.42 | mphojele | I love kde |
| 20:53.58 | mphojele | and I love you guys for making it |
| 20:54.16 | d42 | owo |
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| 20:56.01 | mphojele | Now I was wondering if I can have scrolling behave a bit 'lazier' in plasma-shell |
| 20:56.06 | JanKusanagi | KDE is people, the people who *make* software =) |
| 20:58.44 | mphojele | JanKusanagi: haha, I'm actually learning how to use make. and khelpcenter is awesome, it has info pages! |
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