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00:25.44mphojelePlease help, can't get info pages to display in khelpcenter nor does the info protocol in general work. Fedora 32
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01:37.48CyberManifestWhat is KDE Plasma and how does it compare to KDE ? Also, is there a lighter version of KDE to run on the Raspberry Pi?
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01:45.53jankusanagi_Plasma is the desktop environment _made by_ KDE
01:45.59jankusanagi_KDE is the people who make the software
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03:14.27CyberManifeston lxqt how do I set the Manual Format Time to 12 hour?
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03:15.25CyberManifestnevermind, figured it out
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04:37.45CyberManifesthow do I stop the bouncing mouse cursor indicator while launching apps in lxqt ?
04:50.24nitoplayerinstall gentoo
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05:45.15michaelmroseif you forget the gpg password for a key used to secure saved logins etc how do you reset this, given no need to preserve any secrets stored on the machine
05:45.39michaelmroseI thought I could just blow away the kwallet data and recreate a key in kgpg
05:45.57michaelmrosethis does NOT seem to have worked crome still says no secret gpg key at login
05:47.46michaelmroseactually disabling kwallet seems to work
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10:49.23gloomy-mbpIs it normal for my journal to be *flooded* by qt warnings related to kde apps?
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10:50.24Mathew-Myeah mine's like that
10:50.25gloomy-mbpmostly messages like this one
10:50.42Mathew-Mapparently it's because the new format is not supported by some older versions of Qt that KDE still supports
10:51.09Mathew-Mso they can't switch to the new one until KDE deprecates using that old version of KDE
10:52.02gloomy-mbpHuh. Good to know. Bit annoying with the logs though especially since they are logged with a high priority level and make other stuff hard to find
10:53.33Mathew-Myeah it is
10:53.33Mathew-Mthere's *probably some* way to disable it but where I've needed I've just grep'd out the lines
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11:30.25vidal72-Mis it intended behavior in kate 20.08 then when I have single tab opened then save/undo/redo toolbar buttons are gone and appear when I open second empty tab?
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11:45.13alinuxhey all
11:45.48alinuxany one know why each time i open a folder icons of executables are refreshing ? (kubuntu lastest)
11:47.31alinuxlike Downloads,each time i open it i have like 10 folders inside with videos or apps,and icons keep refreshing when i open. it takes 1/2/3 secs. and if i enter a specific folder it does that too.
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12:30.47BluesKajHi folks
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13:00.55rindolfBluesKaj: hi, how are you?
13:02.33BluesKajhi rindolf, doing ok here, how about you?
13:04.51rindolfBluesKaj: i've made some headway with converting fortune-mod's docs from nroff/man to a better format: https://github.com/shlomif/fortune-mod/issues/41
13:05.42rindolfBluesKaj: and travis-ci started acting up again :(
13:06.52SysGhostI'm trying to figure out why KDE is the only DE that detects a non-existent screen (named :0.0) on my computers. See Comment 10 in this bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353722#c10 It is quite annoying having it randomly appear and disappear.
13:07.45optimal**open source people mad** ***u dont use travis u use jenkins you freaking windows user*** ****stallman walks in****
13:08.00SysGhostIs there any way I can tell KDE to ignore that non-existent screen altogether?
13:08.54rindolfSysGhost: is this :0.0 in $DISPLAY ?
13:08.59SysGhostindeed
13:09.33rindolfoptimal: travis runs most of my builds on ubuntu systems
13:10.17SysGhostrindolf: could it be that I only have to unset that env variable to make KDE stop detecting the non-existent display? Lemme try...
13:10.37SysGhost(But that will screw up a few other things that rely on the variable being set)
13:10.42rindolfoptimal: and jenkins is not hosted which means "more possessions -> more trouble" - http://www.paulgraham.com/stuff.html
13:11.01rindolfSysGhost: it is the x.org socket address
13:11.38rindolfSysGhost: are you using x or wayland?
13:11.43SysGhostYeah I know... Just weird that KDE sees it as a physical separate screen to be configured. It messes up the multi monitor order too.
13:11.48SysGhostjust regualr x
13:12.19SysGhostwayland is way too problematic to be used at all in my case.
13:13.23SysGhostwayland works kinda well as long as one stays with only one single screen. As soon as one use more it really mess things up badly in multiple ways.
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13:14.17SysGhost...but that isn't related to KDE. it's the same messed up state no matter the DE/WM
13:16.19SysGhostimho, wayland got way too many serious bugs still in urgent need to be solved to be usable for a regular user.
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13:42.42optimalrindolf well on-premise hosting is good because you have more control. also, travis isnt open-source
13:43.03optimaljust an opinion btw
13:43.07rindolfoptimal: it is a tradeoff
13:43.43SysGhostTested it with DISPLAY variable being unset. The fault still occurs. Seems unrelated to the env. variable.
13:44.06rindolfoptimal: it is kinda technically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_CI
13:44.14SysGhostnon-existend display named :0.0 still randomly appears at random positions
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13:45.11SysGhost(And wayland session of plasma just hartd-hangs the computer)
13:45.13rindolfoptimal: i used docker for ci-like functionality to some extent
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14:11.22mefistofelesafter upgrade of new apps urls numbering in terminal (yakuake) is not working properly, is shifted by 1, it's kinda crazy haha
14:12.02mefistofelesyou know this feature that you hold ctrl (or some similar key) and it highlights URLs with numbers to access them, for some reason the numbers are shifted
14:12.14mefistofelesif I do ctrl+2 it opens the 3, and such
14:14.27mefistofelesalso the numbering now starts with 0, I think that's related... even though ctrl+0 doesn't work as a shortcut...
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14:16.28mefistofelesthe feature doesn't seem to be working on konsole at all (doesn't highlight), despite being enabled there...
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15:14.48mphojeleHow can I make the info and man protocols open in khelpcenter instead of the browser?
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15:18.42rindolfmphojele: hi
15:19.29mphojelerindolf: hello
15:21.37rindolfmphojele: heh, it opens as file:///home/shlomif/.cache/kioexec/krun/96469_0/ls in ff here too (fedora 32)
15:26.36mphojelerindolf: Fellow Fedorian! If that's a word. anyways, I would like for it not open in a browser but rather in khelpcenter
15:26.58rindolfmphojele: ah
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15:34.00mefistofeleshow do you open those again?
15:34.58mefistofelesoh, I don't even have a khelpcenter :P nvm
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15:36.22mphojelemefistofeles: man:ls in application launcher search bar or krunner will open the ls command manpage in your browser
15:37.08mefistofelesoh indeed, even the wrong browser!
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15:41.08Chaekyungspeaking of browsers, why is this allowed https://media.mstdn.io/mstdn-media/media_attachments/files/104/694/146/447/964/109/original/bbc4a6a050ea5ea2.jpeg
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15:45.53mphojeleChaekyung: Does it cause freezing?
15:47.51mefistofelesChaekyung: you mean a single process using more than 1 CPU core?
15:47.55mefistofelesor what's the question?
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15:48.49mefistofelesah, or falkon using that many resources with just a single tab?
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15:52.22rindolfChaekyung: do you block scripts on that page?
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16:09.11Chaekyungrindolf: I started with a clean profile when I begun testing it today, so the default adblock things + the easylist cookie warning removal lists, because I can't stand using the web without it, are present
16:09.47ChaekyungFalkon freezes for a minute while using 100% of one CPU core and an increasing amount of memory when it happens
16:10.06rindolfChaekyung: ah, sounds like a bug
16:10.32Chaekyungincreasing as in I can see the RESident memory use slowly rise from 300 MiB to 8+
16:11.26ChaekyungI suspect it's due to advertisements because it only happens half the time I load some specific websites
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16:46.49physkets-MHi!  Is there an SVG file of the KDE logo? I'd like to submit it to andOTP (https://github.com/andOTP/andOTP) for inclusion in their list of selectable images for TOTPs.
16:50.37demmphyskets-M: https://kde.org/stuff/clipart.php
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16:51.17physkets-Mgreat! THanks demm
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16:57.09NactAbout the new thumbnail thing in konsole 20.08. If I set thumbnails larger than 256 pixels they're centered as if they were laeger but stay 256 pixels
16:57.15NactOS is Arch Linux
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17:09.21Bitterblue256 pixels should be enough for everyone.
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17:22.01NactBitterblue ...
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18:31.59KodiakIT-M1Can I get some help trying to diagnose WTF is preventing sddm from actually starting up? It's not an X.org issue AFAICT, as lightdm & plasma work just fine.
18:33.18KodiakIT-M1This is pretty much all she wrote as far as logs & errors (or lack thereof) go: https://gist.github.com/KodiakIT/658f6096f7bafbc39c5b0adce2e7a8f7
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18:35.37KodiakIT-M1I'd be happy to compile sddm myself and enable any suggested debug flags, but I wouldn't even know what to look for myself.
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