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00:51.51tomaszMaybe this is a stupid question for you, but how do I find out what version of Ubuntu I have installed in KDE Neon. I only know that there is LTS and there is silence on the website.
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00:59.27JanKusanagiwhat does /etc/os-release say?
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00:59.55WenzHi
01:00.56JanKusanagio/
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01:07.19SenlI am using Plasma since last April. Happy user now
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03:02.24*** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.19 and Release Service 20.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config
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03:27.27kstarHow do I diagnose a plasma that doesn't start up fully?
03:28.14kstarAfter I log in, I see the starting screen with the swiring progress symbol, but it eventually hangs (even the animation hangs).
03:28.31kstarAnd I can hit Alt + F2 to get KRunner to fire, but if I type anything in there, it similarly hangs on a progress symbol.
03:29.07kstarI'm trying to do a system upgrade to see if that fixes it, but it might be useful to figure out why things are going on
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03:29.48RicardoJamesman, KDE is still this big after all these decades..cool
03:30.20RicardoJames"germans like David Hasselhoff and Germans like KDE "...Hah!
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03:46.11user____hi
03:46.55RicardoJameshi user____
03:47.00RicardoJamesnice underscores
03:47.06kstarOkay, I think it was a bug with external display and non-mirroring (i.e. disabling the internal laptop display.)
03:47.21RicardoJames"germans love KDE"
03:47.46user____hi RicardoJames...i was testing if unreg could speak, which I'm glad they can...some other kde subproject chatrooms prevent me from joining without registering
03:48.00RicardoJamesuser____, i'm sorry my friend
03:48.09RicardoJamesuser____, i was being rude to you...my apology
03:50.16user____rude? i didnt notice actually...im not sure where my q would be ontopic...I know theres been debate and refusal to accomodate libressl...
03:50.36baudsparkHello everyone. I'm still struggling with X not wanting to start on my Arch install after doing some updates. I tried installing and booting from an LTS kernel but that unfortunately did not solve the problem. Here's the output of my Xorg.0.log: https://pastebin.com/256w7YYQ and here's my dmesg output: https://pastebin.com/w669MBkV
03:50.41baudsparkAny ideas for what to try next would be appreciated
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03:55.36user____just a sec...let me research a bit b4 asking my q
03:58.04RicardoJamesyou're a good kid user____
03:58.28RicardoJamesall i want to debate is who is the greatest mind of the 20th century, Von Neuman or Dirac
03:58.45user____dont know dirac....
03:59.03RicardoJamesuser____, dirac invented quantum mechanics i think
03:59.05baudsparkDirac is good. Knuth is good. Turing is good. Von Neuman is good. Lots of great minds.
03:59.17user____and define greatest mind...but maybe this is for #kde-chat?
03:59.47RicardoJamesuser____, i know brother
03:59.55RicardoJamesi'll be quiet
04:00.09RicardoJamessince you aksed
04:00.31RicardoJamesVon Neuman is known to be the sharpest mind to exist in the 20th century
04:00.44RicardoJamesbut Dirac...
04:01.06RicardoJamesnobody was an alien computational wizard like Von Neuman
04:01.10baudsparkRicardoJames: Did either of them leave behind instructions for how to debug X not working after running updates on Arch?
04:01.19RicardoJamesand the funny thing is...Hungarian are somwehat special
04:01.49RicardoJamesbaudspark, Von  Neuman gave you your computational vehicle...hence the "von neuman machine"
04:01.53RicardoJamesthat we all use
04:01.59RicardoJameshim and Turin
04:02.20baudsparkThat was real chill of him and all but mah GUI
04:02.30RicardoJameswe live in the Von Neuman machine
04:02.42RicardoJameshe invented what you live in
04:02.56user____baudspark: are you getting an answer on #xorg or #archlinux?
04:02.57RicardoJamessomething about Hungarians
04:03.05baudsparkuser: nada
04:03.16baudsparkuser____ *
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04:04.34RicardoJamesthere's something about braniac hungarians in the late 19th century, early 20th century that defies statistical
04:06.04RicardoJamesVon Neuman feared death at 56 because he knew there's nothing that sucks
04:07.06RicardoJamessmartest dude in the 20th century and he knew there's nothing even though he called a catholic priest on his death bed...just in cast
04:07.17RicardoJamesi'm sorry to invade kde
04:07.26RicardoJameskick me if you find me boring
04:07.31baudsparkI just want help getting my laptop working again
04:07.31RicardoJamesonly if you find me boring
04:07.45RicardoJamesbaudspark, what's the problem i can help
04:08.06baudsparkHello everyone. I'm still struggling with kde not wanting to start on my Arch install after doing some updates. I tried installing and booting from an LTS kernel but that unfortunately did not solve the problem. Here's the output of my Xorg.0.log: https://pastebin.com/256w7YYQ and here's my dmesg output: https://pastebin.com/w669MBkV
04:08.12baudsparkrepost ^
04:08.16RicardoJamesbaudspark, i bet you need to get rid of asshole Mcacaffeee or whatever and a little bit more RAM my friend
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04:08.49RicardoJamesbaudspark, how much RAM you got?
04:08.52RicardoJamesi'll try to help
04:08.55baudspark16GiB
04:09.06RicardoJameswow brother
04:09.14RicardoJamesyou got 16 gig and you're still dogging
04:09.26baudsparkI'm incredibly confident RAM isn't the issue
04:09.45RicardoJamesget rid of all that McAffee and external "help me virus prorection"
04:09.59RicardoJameslet me say something to everybody!
04:10.03baudsparkI don't know of a polite way to tell you that your advice has absolutely no applicability to my situation
04:10.16RicardoJamesget rid of ALL external virus/whatever protection you have
04:10.20RicardoJamesdelete it all
04:10.35RicardoJamesbaudspark, i'm american and you're wrong
04:10.50baudsparkSomebody help me. I'm being bikeshedded by someone who's telling me to uninstall programs I don't have.
04:10.54RicardoJamesif you have 16 gig then you have plenty of ram
04:11.08RicardoJameshe's bogged down with bullshit
04:11.19baudsparkI'm going to ignore you now
04:12.18baudsparkHello everyone. I'm still struggling with kde not wanting to start on my Arch install after doing some updates. I tried installing and booting from an LTS kernel but that unfortunately did not solve the problem. Here's the output of my Xorg.0.log: https://pastebin.com/256w7YYQ and here's my dmesg output: https://pastebin.com/w669MBkV
04:12.25baudsparkAny ideas for what to try next would be greatly appreciated
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04:13.46RicardoJamesdude..you gotta kill your processes
04:13.56RicardoJameshe's killed by mcAffee shit
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04:14.03RicardoJamesi see this day in and day out
04:14.14RicardoJamesMcCafeee is the virus
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11:42.46BluesKajHi all
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13:00.33BitterblueHow do I use Plasma under Wayland? SDDM used to have a list of sessions to choose from, but I didn't find it this time. I have Plasma 5.18.5 and SDDM 0.18.1.
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13:02.29weiliang1503You can just search "plasma-workspace-wayland" by you pkgmanager
13:02.58weiliang1503And
13:03.14weiliang1503And on my archlinux, it is named plasma-wayland-session
13:03.24BitterblueSo it's separate. That's weird.
13:03.33BitterblueThanks.
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13:33.40raghukamathis falkon development not active?
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14:10.14mparilloraghukamath: It looks as if the last Falkon commit was a week ago: https://invent.kde.org/network/falkon
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14:11.39mparilloAnd on Arch, Version         : 3.1.0-12 has a Build Date      : Thu 10 Sep 2020 01:17:07 PM EDT
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14:12.30mparilloIf you would like to help out, there is #falkon
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14:23.52raghukamathmparillo: thanks for the irc link. the commit from last week is by scripty bot. the last commit by dev was 2 weeks ago and before than 3 months ago and before than 6 months ago. so it is a bit sparse. the official webpage list release from mar 2019, may be the point release is not documented. I use arch and I saw the update, I wanted to check out the release notes. But the website didn't have it and when I checked the git repo. the commits were sparse. That
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14:36.55mparilloI am hoping it is because the heavy lifting is performed by qt5-webengine but I agree their IRC channel has been quieter these last few months.
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19:04.19BitterbluePlasma in Wayland is still weird. Tap to click wasn't enabled. The scrolling was backwards. I had to enable "natural" scrolling. Force Font DPI didn't carry over from X11. Text looked blurry.
19:04.33Bitterblue¯\_(ツ)_/¯
19:05.47BitterblueA combobox's list (probably Fonts/Hinting) was rendered badly. The background was partially white.
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19:19.54NactAfter upgrading from plasma 5.19.4 to 5.19.5 on Arch it seems to crash (no wallpaper or taskbar but kwin still works). Is there a log file I can look at?
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19:21.30JanKusanagiyou can try launching plasmashell from a Konsole window, and check the output
19:21.59Nactsegmentation error
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19:24.29JanKusanagisounds like your distribution has not updated fully
19:26.07Nacthttp://ix.io/2xkQ
19:28.42Nacteverything seems to be at 5.19.5
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20:44.11cosimonehello, anyone noticed plasma 5.19.5 opening nautilus instead of dolphin in some occasions, if installed? for instance, when adding a new image to wallpapers
20:45.13JanKusanagithat would be really weird, considering the "add image" button in the Wallpaper settings doesn't even launch Dolphin, just the "open file" dialog
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20:47.20cosimonei do have dolphin set up as the default file manager
20:51.38cosimonelooks like it might be because i had removed portal packages some time ago, let's see if it works after i reinstall them
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21:15.46BitterblueOh, someone broke qBittorrent's system tray tooltip.
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21:17.28BitterblueqBittorrent wasn't updated, so I guess Plasma doesn't like the HTML anymore.
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21:20.38SauerlandBitterblue: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176190
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21:23.04Bitterblue?
21:25.18cosimonenope, still with the same problem
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21:41.05Nactapparently it's an infinite loop? http://ix.io/2xlr after upgrade to plasma 5.19.5 on arch
21:42.42Nact(it only happen with one user)
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21:48.18jankusanagi_I guess you were a bit behind on Frameworks versions, Bitterblue → https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422616
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