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| 05:13.14 | *** topic/#kde is State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | KDE Plasma 5.20.1 and Release Service 20.08.0 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
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| 05:17.08 | Lope | I started using the network monitor plasmoid recently (plasma widget) and was quite happy with it, so decided to rename my network interfaces, but now none of my network interfaces show up in the network-monitor plasmoid. If I go into the configure section, the only thing it offers is update interval. The list of network interfaces is gone :/ |
| 05:17.34 | Lope | my network interface names are longer now, and contain hyphens |
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| 05:26.54 | JanKusanagi | that's probably not related |
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| 05:27.09 | JanKusanagi | mine disappeared too, and I renamed nothing |
| 05:27.24 | JanKusanagi | and other people have issues with that plasmoid in Plasma 5.20.x |
| 05:27.43 | JanKusanagi | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425992 |
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| 05:37.55 | Lope | Thanks JanKusanagi |
| 05:41.05 | Lope | JanKusanagi, in the issue someone mentions kstatsviewer and ksystemstats ... how can I get these on debian? can't find anything like this |
| 05:41.30 | JanKusanagi | Debian? then I guess you're not on Plasma 5.20... xD |
| 05:41.37 | JanKusanagi | so your issue might have nothing to do with that |
| 05:43.21 | Lope | JanKusanagi, yeah, I was wondering about that as well haha |
| 05:44.34 | Lope | JanKusanagi, my theory about the hyphens and underscores could be right |
| 05:44.47 | Lope | I just created an empty bridge, and it shows up in the plasmoid. |
| 05:44.53 | Lope | brctl addbr foo |
| 05:45.40 | Lope | okay, it's official. it can't handle network interface names with hyphens. |
| 05:45.46 | Lope | if I use underscores, they show up. |
| 05:47.11 | Lope | sources=network%2Finterfaces%2Ffoo%2Ftransmitter%2Fdata,network%2Finterfaces%2Ffoo_bar%2Ftransmitter%2Fdata |
| 05:47.31 | Lope | the test now is to hack this config and see if my interface with a hyphen shows up |
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| 05:51.55 | Lope | This didn't work: sources=network%2Finterfaces%2Ffoo%2Ftransmitter%2Fdata,network%2Finterfaces%2Ffoo_bar%2Ftransmitter%2Fdata,network%2Finterfaces%2Ffoo-baz%2Ftransmitter%2Fdata |
| 05:51.58 | Lope | note the foo-baz |
| 05:52.17 | Lope | I wonder if I need to urlencode the hyphen |
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| 05:55.41 | Lope | I tried foo\-baz but it got changed into foo\\baz |
| 05:56.07 | Lope | Then I tried foo%2Dbaz (guessing some sort of ascii encoding for hyphen, but that didn't work either. |
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| 05:58.37 | Lope | this sucks |
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| 06:00.10 | Lope | okay, periods don't work either |
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| 06:01.10 | Lope | plus doesn't work either |
| 06:01.46 | Lope | Hash doesn't work |
| 06:02.47 | Lope | Tilda doesn't work |
| 06:03.35 | Lope | @ doesn't work |
| 06:03.57 | Lope | It's obviously got some really crappy regex |
| 06:12.12 | Lope | okay gotta reboot etc |
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| 06:42.19 | ghabxph | Hello guys. Do anyone here know about how login works in KDE? |
| 06:43.00 | ghabxph | My goal is to tinker KDE's login system. Password-less login. |
| 06:43.28 | ghabxph | If anyone is familiar with SSI (Self Sovereign Identity), that's what I'm planning to do. |
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| 07:38.59 | vizzy | hi again, is there a known solution for the "plasma shows only black windows and cursor" after resume or hibernate? it#s not sddm, its the windows manager, i tested with cinnamon which comes back fine after wake up from sleep |
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| 08:20.05 | ByteEnable | Fedora: Does anyone know which font setting to change the font that is used for input search text on the application launcher or system settings app? |
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| 08:20.57 | ByteEnable | KDE 5.19. |
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| 09:03.19 | Bochi | moin |
| 09:03.45 | Bochi | after upgrading kde, when there are multiple windows of the same application open, i do not get multiple entries in the taskbar anymore |
| 09:03.50 | Bochi | is this a bug or a feature? |
| 09:04.51 | Bochi | the new behavior is somewhat strange, after clicking on my taskbar entry it just switches from one to another window of the application but i cannot minimize anymore |
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| 09:28.06 | lod__ | it's a setting, you should be able to change this |
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| 09:33.20 | Bochi | lod__: i already unsuccessfully searched, can you point me to where that is? |
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| 09:37.27 | lod__ | right click on the task manager - configure icons-only task... - behavior - group -> do not group |
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| 09:41.54 | neobrain | Not sure if KDE changed or my distro did, but the emoji selector started displaying all emojis properly since my last reboot whereas previously it would use fallback icons for some. That makes me very ð 𥳠|
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| 09:44.55 | lod__ | should be an updated font in your distro |
| 09:45.55 | lod__ | or a new dependency to another emoji font |
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| 09:47.45 | neobrain | Probably, yeah. Either way, loving the selector :) |
| 09:48.46 | lod__ | 𥳠|
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| 09:53.02 | lod__ | googles noto color emoji got an new version in september |
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| 09:55.27 | Bochi | lod__: thanks but that's what I did not want... usually when grouping is enabled i can click on the taskbar entry and it expands and shows the different windows |
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| 09:57.16 | lod__ | it's the next option in the same window |
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| 09:59.03 | lod__ | "clicking grouped task:" shows tooltip windows thumbnails |
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| 10:03.01 | lod__ | btw I think, on default now, you should get this on mouse over |
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| 10:04.18 | Bochi | lod__: thx |
| 10:07.56 | lod__ | ðð½ |
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| 11:11.44 | Lope | do the network hdd-IO CPU memory plasmoids use much CPU to leave running on your desktop? |
| 11:11.54 | Lope | Do they run at low priority? |
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| 11:12.41 | Lope | What are the process names for these things? |
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| 11:17.12 | rindolf | Lope: hi, they might be shared libraries / plugins / etc instead of processes. |
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| 11:20.36 | Lope | rindolf, thanks. If anyone knows about this, I'd love to learn? |
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| 11:24.29 | rindolf | Lope: well, i'll need to study the code or use strace/etc.: https://blog.codinghorror.com/learn-to-read-the-source-luke/ - i'm not sure either way |
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| 11:37.38 | shtrb | supp rindlof |
| 11:42.07 | rindolf | shtrb: trying to get a feature branch ready for merging by doing several small cleanup steps |
| 11:42.28 | shtrb | nice ! good luck |
| 11:42.41 | rindolf | shtrb: now i'm stuck looking for a test tags/labels prior art |
| 11:43.13 | shtrb | :) |
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| 12:16.44 | Klanticus | hey ppl, on KMyMoney, is it possible to force it to re-run the transaction matching after updating the matching rules? Either manually or automatically would work for me. |
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| 12:30.37 | Nicholas | Hi can we ask questions we have regarding KDE here or is there another channel for that? |
| 12:31.11 | queip | Nicholas: I think this is the channel |
| 12:31.43 | Nicholas | ohk well any help with this issue I have would be greatly appreciateD: |
| 12:32.02 | Nicholas | I have a dual screen set up and recently unplugged my second monitor (to test a third monitor). I then plugged the same monitor (second) back in and the panel for my second monitor went missing (but the latte dock on my second monitor is still there, and the panel + latte dock on my first monitor is still there).I then added a new panel on my |
| 12:32.03 | Nicholas | second monitor (however the old panel is likely still there somewhere and I just can't view it. I say this because I can see the number of widgets when I click "Add widgets", and this shows me that I still have widgets open somewhere from my original panel on the second monitor).Regardless, when I put in the "Active Window Control" widget on the |
| 12:32.03 | Nicholas | second panel again, and enable the setting "Show active window only for plasmoid's screen" on both of my Active Window Control widgets (I have one for each monitor), the following happens:If I have some window (e.g. Firefox) open on screen 1 and another window (e.g. Dolphin) open on screen 2, when I click on screen 1 I see Firefox as the active |
| 12:32.04 | Nicholas | window for screen 1, however on screen 2 the active window becomes "Plasma Desktop" (even though dolphin is still open on screen 2). The same thing happens the other way around (i.e. if I click on Dolphin on screen 2, the active window on screen 2 is "Dolphin" yet the active window on screen 1 becomes "Plasma Desktop" (even though Firefox is still |
| 12:32.04 | Nicholas | open on screen 1).Note that this issue did not occur before I unplugged the second monitor. It would just show whatever window was open on each screen regardless of what screen I was currently working in.I understand that active window control is not maintained and is known to be buggy, however I think this is may be an issue somewhere with my |
| 12:32.04 | Nicholas | screen settings. I say this because I tried the "Window Title Applet" and the same screen behaviour occurs (instead of "Plasma Desktop it says "Default" on the unused screen). I tried to test this also with the "Window AppMenu Applet" but whenever I try to add this widget I get a "Failed to execute install script" message in the Plasma Add-On |
| 12:32.05 | Nicholas | Installer.(I am currently running KDE Plasma 5.19.5 and Manjaro Mikah 20.1.2) |
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| 12:37.48 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 12:58.02 | queip | after removing the crappy akonadi-mysql and switching to postgresql |
| 12:58.11 | queip | kmail sees old accounts in config, but shows nothing in main view |
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| 13:06.49 | Mamarok | Nicholas: Graphic card and driver? |
| 13:07.09 | Nicholas | g |
| 13:07.13 | Nicholas | one sec |
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| 13:09.33 | Nicholas | geforce 1050, nvidia 450xx |
| 13:09.34 | Nicholas | but didn't have this issue before I unplugged my monitor and replugged it so I assume there is some setting somewhere? |
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| 13:11.06 | Nicholas | sorry I disconnected in case you had replied |
| 13:11.41 | Mamarok | well, did you try the nouveau driver instead? Just tu rule out a driver issue |
| 13:12.02 | Mamarok | as for the Woindwos AppMenu widget: you need to comile it yourself, the isntaller doesn't work |
| 13:12.13 | Mamarok | Window" AppMenu |
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| 13:33.04 | Minall | Hello KDE Community!... I have two networks configured in my desktop, Wifi (Access to internet) and ethernet (locally for testing). When connecting the ethernet, I loss internet connection since, the ethernet is configured for a default IP. When asking for this is ##networking, I was told that I needed to tell Network Manager to not use a default route. Though, I'm not pretty sure how to do this, can someone help me with this? |
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| 13:39.01 | shtrb | queip, had you been able to use kmail on a different unix user on the same machine ? |
| 13:41.48 | queip | shtrb: kmail has a set of other bugs, I'm now seeing |
| 13:41.54 | queip | not caching pgp passphrase, for one |
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| 13:49.22 | Minall | My ethernet connection has to have a default gateway to work, but this interferes with other connections... How can I overwrite this is kde settings on networking? |
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| 14:17.24 | gesangtome | How to upgrade my fedora32 to 33? HP :) |
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| 14:18.12 | JanKusanagi | ask in #fedora? |
| 14:18.14 | JanKusanagi | xD |
| 14:18.50 | gesangtome | :) |
| 14:18.56 | luna_ | gesangtome: also its not out until tommorow |
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| 14:20.29 | gesangtome | luna: The official version of FEDORA33 will be released tomorrow? ! So excited! |
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| 14:21.47 | luna_ | gesangtome: yep its go for tommorow |
| 14:23.49 | gesangtome | luna: Thank you for telling me. I haven't watched the news for a long time. |
| 14:25.11 | luna_ | np |
| 14:26.19 | gesangtome | :) |
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| 16:37.09 | bkeys | Hello people |
| 16:37.25 | bkeys | I currently use thunderbird for a lot of things, like IRC, XMPP, RSS, and email |
| 16:37.44 | bkeys | I like having all of these things in one place, and was wondering if it would ever be possible to have Kontact do all of these things? |
| 16:38.20 | queip | in kmail how to search quickly by text body, including in encrypted emails? |
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| 16:43.37 | tpaper | Hello. Anyone know if the battery applet can be used to control external monitor brightness over i2c? (laptop built in monitor brightness control works fine) |
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| 16:55.02 | vizzy | where can i select my screensaver in kde plasma plkease? i can not select any screensvers under "screen locing" |
| 16:56.29 | vizzy | and what are these sill ynames ? hungangyangjojo, hunaeuauauauau? no descriotions at all |
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| 16:58.43 | zack31 | hello I have an issue with kmail in kubuntu 20.04, I "lost" my "local folder" with all my emails (inbox, sent-mails, etc). The directory "/.local/share/local-mail" looks full of stuff in the console, but look like my account is misconfigured... |
| 16:59.50 | vizzy | ok, i give up, plasma sucks a lot, after esume i get black screen, or whatever screen is defined for screen locing, AND this damn sreenlocker locks and didnt letz me in again! what a sucker! |
| 17:00.23 | vizzy | so kde doesnt allow screenlockign anymore and destroy data because of restarting x11 to resolv eit and get back in? and enabled screenlocking by default? |
| 17:00.25 | vizzy | i dont get it |
| 17:00.44 | vizzy | if i lock the plasma screen with a solid color, i cannot login again! howe to recolve that??? |
| 17:01.08 | zack31 | was working few days ago, looks like my local account is reset or blocked in kmail . Could an kubuntu update broke something ? |
| 17:01.57 | zack31 | you can imagine that losing all my mails wuld be a catastrophy... |
| 17:02.15 | vizzy | make a backup of your home as fast as poissible, just in case |
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| 17:03.20 | zack31 | I will, you fear something specific or a "general" advice ? |
| 17:04.07 | vizzy | i always fear something specific ;) backup is also always a good advise |
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| 17:11.20 | vizzy | ok i can definitely reproduce that screenlocking in kde plasma in debian 10.6 will not let you in after resume, if i disable screenlocker it works! |
| 17:11.45 | vizzy | but having no password is not a good idea..... |
| 17:15.44 | zack31 | vizzy ok, made a backup copy of my local-mail folder (plain cp command). So what can I do now ? |
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| 17:16.46 | zack31 | How to reconnect Kmail to my local folder ? |
| 17:17.27 | zack31 | nobody answer me on kubuntu irc neither.... |
| 17:17.43 | vizzy | maybe there is an 'import prfile' or so? |
| 17:17.51 | vizzy | long time ago i used kmail, let me see |
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| 17:18.35 | vizzy | oh, seems i have disable dmy akonadi whateveritis daemon as it was eating up so much stuff |
| 17:18.53 | vizzy | and kmail wont let me in without that thing |
| 17:19.11 | vizzy | modern systems are full of unknown fancy named daemons... |
| 17:21.02 | vizzy | there is an import" option there, but this seems only to import from other clients, not from kmail itself, but there is also an export option, so there MUST be an importer |
| 17:21.16 | vizzy | and if it is designed well, it can read its own stuff :)) |
| 17:21.41 | zack31 | could be my akonadi daemon preventing me to see my local mail ? |
| 17:22.44 | vizzy | at least for me nothing works in kmail, i guess its all conencted to this akonadithingy |
| 17:22.53 | zack31 | between kubuntu 19.10 and 20.04 they decided to switch from kontact to thundermail, perhaps some required bakend thing is missing ? |
| 17:23.08 | vizzy | i cant add accounts, only a field to enter a name, nothing to set up like imap, local copy of old kmail, pop3 or so |
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| 17:23.48 | vizzy | can you check if you can add a 'local' account, like a copy of exiting kmail profile? |
| 17:23.52 | zack31 | how do I restart akonadi backend ? |
| 17:24.06 | JanKusanagi | akonadiclt <whatever> probably |
| 17:24.23 | zack31 | my account is still present, with my signature, my PGP key etc |
| 17:24.25 | vizzy | there is no service for it :( |
| 17:24.51 | zack31 | just my local dir seem "disconnected" |
| 17:25.25 | vizzy | i have no idea |
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| 17:27.04 | vizzy | zack31, maybe create a new profile and select existing profile folder? |
| 17:27.14 | vizzy | not the copy ;) |
| 17:29.05 | zack31 | Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/3b88db53b01bbf11a7ba8ad6a23b28f0/kmail.png |
| 17:29.47 | zack31 | Ok sorry this in french but, this is my "configure kmail" window |
| 17:30.24 | zack31 | for my confihured "identity" (account don't know te regular english name") |
| 17:31.08 | zack31 | you see, Kmail is "lost", my local dire are not recognized (the mapping is in pink) |
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| 17:32.35 | zack31 | I have an alert message in orange (top) that says " a perosnal folder for this accoutn doesn't exist (or does not exist any mmore), the default folder will be used" |
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| 17:43.50 | zack31 | ok, i tried akonadi restart |
| 17:44.04 | zack31 | I have some strange messages. |
| 17:45.42 | zack31 | rg.kde.pim.akonadiserver: Error while handling command FetchCollections on connection akonadi_indexing_agent (0x564afe5ec700) |
| 17:45.42 | zack31 | org.kde.pim.akonadi_indexer_agent: Failed to fetch items: "Collection does not exist" |
| 17:45.43 | zack31 | org.kde.pim.akonadi_indexer_agent: Indexing failed: "" |
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| 17:48.49 | zack31 | we agree akonadi is in charge of managing "local mail folder" ? I also have a pop3 issue for a long time (since I updated to from kubuntu 19.10 to 20.04), but until recently, I was still able to use my "lcoal mail folder" |
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| 17:49.34 | zack31 | so for me looks like akonadi is "broken", but the rest of kmail works, you agree ? |
| 17:51.46 | zack31 | there is an irc to chat kmail team / community ? |
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