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| 01:08.07 | DarwinElf | KDE said error: morning is before evening. That's my decision! |
| 01:08.12 | DarwinElf | 'KDE night colour' |
| 01:08.26 | DarwinElf | it's broken in 5.19 |
| 01:08.49 | DarwinElf | i have to offset it seven hours to get the times I want, and half the time it crashes unless I do one at a time |
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| 02:55.17 | degva | Hello! I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm having some trouble. I'm running arch and I've installed zoom and when clicking on the "Login with google", and a notification appears from kioclient "transfering" something and finally throws an error. I'm not sure what is this kio client and what to do with it :( |
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| 06:39.29 | tdhttt | so the virtual desktop is not independent across activities? |
| 06:39.58 | tdhttt | if I swap the virtual desktops in one activity, they also get swapped in another activity |
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| 06:40.21 | tdhttt | I thought it would be better and more flexible if they are independent |
| 06:41.18 | tdhttt | btw I am on Ubuntu 20 and KDE 5.18.5 |
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| 07:11.32 | ara | hello |
| 07:12.06 | tdhttt | hi |
| 07:12.25 | ara | anyone can help me , how to install plugin on falkon? |
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| 07:14.56 | ara | i try install with orc-url from web does not work |
| 07:15.49 | ara | i try manual put in .config/falkon/plugins does not wor to |
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| 07:16.28 | ara | *work too |
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| 11:57.24 | dionysus69 | hey all |
| 11:57.44 | dionysus69 | I am planning to reinstall whole kubuntu or KDE neon on my laptop etc |
| 11:58.23 | dionysus69 | but I want to transfer KDE configuration as is, without loosing any plasma customization that I have made including shortcuts, workspace setup etc, everything KDE related |
| 11:59.10 | dionysus69 | do I just copy the whole home dir and it will "Just Work TM"? or are there some details to consider? |
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| 12:13.10 | rindolf | dionysus69: it should |
| 12:13.34 | dionysus69 | ok then, thanks :P |
| 12:14.24 | rindolf | dionysus69: but see https://github.com/shlomif/Freenode-programming-channel-FAQ/blob/master/FAQ_with_ToC__generated.md#will-a-change-i-would-like-to-do-break-some-functionality |
| 12:16.58 | dionysus69 | nice one :D |
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| 12:41.10 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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| 12:42.43 | rindolf | BluesKaj: hey, coffee man |
| 12:43.03 | BluesKaj | hi rindolf |
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| 18:09.18 | muhammad | Hello |
| 18:12.36 | jankusanagi_ | that lasted =) |
| 18:13.53 | Fahrradkette | :) |
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| 18:22.40 | Fahrradkette | What gui debian package manager should I use? Couldn't figure out on how to show the dependencies in "Discover" :( |
| 18:23.32 | Fahrradkette | As in, tree of the dependencies |
| 18:24.13 | jankusanagi_ | question for Debian channels, I'd say =) |
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| 18:26.19 | Fahrradkette | so "Discover" is a distro-generic gui package manager? |
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| 20:07.06 | SpeakerToMeat | jankusanagi_, Hello, sorry for the late response. It's browser windows, with many tabs in each so the name changes depending on what tab is opened :/ |
| 20:07.29 | SpeakerToMeat | I figure I have nor eal way to identify each window, unless I could tell the browser to change the title. Maybe there's an extension for that |
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| 20:37.12 | Miggles | Hi guys, my kde has developed an issue where applications are no longer restricted to their assigned activities? (pop os 20.10, kubuntu-backports, kde 5.19.5). It just appeared randomly today, unrelated to an update, and I'm wondering if there is some global system setting I've accidentally triggered to cause this to happen? |
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| 20:43.12 | flask- | Hey guys I have a question about key bindings. I am running Plasma 5.18.5 (Kubuntu 20.04). I'm trying to make it so that I have a key combination I can use anywhere, in any application, that will "paste" the contents of the "primary selection" (the "middle mouse click buffer"). I found ways of accessing this (https://askubuntu.com/questions/7769/keyboard-shortcut-for-pasting-the-primary-selection) but I can't seem to figure out how to |
| 20:43.14 | flask- | assign this to a key combination. The Global Keyboard Shortcuts dialog only lets me deal with keybindings in an Application context. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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| 21:22.53 | jankusanagi_ | actually, the global shortcuts deal with outside-programs shortcuts |
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| 21:26.37 | dionysus69 | I copied full .local / .config and .kde dirs but my KWIN shortcuts are lost, as well as panel configuration, I have panel on top but when I copied settings to new machine it stayed on bot |
| 21:26.58 | dionysus69 | and many other details like that, I am obviously not copying whole KDE configuration so what place am I missing? |
| 21:28.02 | dionysus69 | I basically want to copy Everything, from wallpaper to the very last shortcut |
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| 21:29.32 | jankusanagi_ | all of that is in ~/.config/ and ~/.local/ |
| 21:29.45 | jankusanagi_ | ~/.kde is a thing of the past |
| 21:29.45 | apt | ...but /.kde is already something else... |
| 21:30.23 | dionysus69 | hmm it's strange then |
| 21:30.29 | dionysus69 | maybe when I copied over the settings |
| 21:30.48 | dionysus69 | and then restarted, maybe it overwrote whatever was currently running ? jankusanagi_ |
| 21:31.19 | jankusanagi_ | if you copied config files while _running_ Plasma, you can expect all kinds of inconsistencies, yes |
| 21:31.43 | dionysus69 | ugh, any ad-hoc ideas on how to copy while not running plasma? |
| 21:31.55 | jankusanagi_ | it's never a good idea to overwrite configurations of programs that are running, many will save their "in memory" config on exit |
| 21:32.05 | dionysus69 | yea makes sense |
| 21:32.12 | jankusanagi_ | from a tty, or a simple openbox session, for instance |
| 21:32.39 | dionysus69 | not sure about either of those :S |
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| 21:34.48 | jankusanagi_ | you can create a second user |
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| 21:35.58 | dionysus69 | jankusanagi_: that's a best one for me :D too tired to do anything more complex :D |
| 21:37.33 | jankusanagi_ | I find it easier to log into a simple OpenBox session than using a second user and dealing with possible permissions/ownership issues, but... =) |
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| 21:39.58 | Bitterblue | Ctrl+Alt+F2, log in, run mc, copy stuff. |
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| 21:47.49 | dionysus69 | thing is that never used openbox so |
| 21:47.56 | dionysus69 | also not sure what running mc means :) |
| 21:48.09 | dionysus69 | I am using cp -a to preserve permissions |
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| 21:54.52 | miggles_ | I think mc is referring to midnight commander - https://midnight-commander.org/ |
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| 22:03.10 | *** topic/#kde is State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | KDE Plasma 5.20.1 and Release Service 20.08.0 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | Don't delete ~/.kde,~/.kde4,~/.local or ~/.config |
| 22:09.51 | flask- | @jankusanagi_ I'm not sure how to proceed based on your response "actually, the global shortcuts deal with outside-programs shortcuts" |
| 22:09.51 | flask- | @jankusanagi_ if I'm looking in the wrong place that's fine, would it be possible for you to point me in the right direction if you can? I would greatly appreciate it. |
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| 22:13.11 | SpeakerToMeat | dionysus69, You would need to use root to be able to overwrite another user's files with the ones you're copying. |
| 22:13.28 | dionysus69 | SpeakerToMeat: I am using sudo |
| 22:13.35 | SpeakerToMeat | dionysus69, Btw if you're using -a gotta be sure the uid (user id) and gid (group id) is the same in both machines |
| 22:13.42 | dionysus69 | so my current situation is: I got correct copy of dirs and files to copy |
| 22:13.45 | SpeakerToMeat | Hmm sudo should do the trick |
| 22:14.03 | dionysus69 | but when I copy, rsync fails to copy some of the ownership correctly, not sure what it depends on |
| 22:14.22 | dionysus69 | and cp -a -rp or anything of that sort fails and it ends up with root ownership |
| 22:14.46 | jankusanagi_ | flask-: the only place I'd imagine you could look is under Klipper shortcuts |
| 22:14.47 | dionysus69 | I am using sudo yes, because otherwise I can't copy to the /home dir |
| 22:14.55 | jankusanagi_ | but none of them seem to be for what you want |
| 22:15.25 | jankusanagi_ | dionysus69: you should be su'ing to your original user |
| 22:15.45 | dionysus69 | this is different machine |
| 22:15.58 | dionysus69 | that user doesnt exist here, I copied to external drive with ext4 FS |
| 22:16.08 | jankusanagi_ | still |
| 22:16.09 | dionysus69 | the copy of the files I got are correct |
| 22:16.33 | dionysus69 | ok I will su and then what? |
| 22:17.15 | jankusanagi_ | su to your regular user |
| 22:17.25 | jankusanagi_ | then do whatever you want with your original user's home dir |
| 22:18.20 | dionysus69 | ok will run same command with the target user |
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| 22:19.43 | dionysus69 | jankusanagi_: that worked! you are genius xD |
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| 22:20.10 | jankusanagi_ | yes, my last name is Einstein, I never really died =) |
| 22:20.21 | clarjon1 | I found a way to crash kdevelop |
| 22:20.23 | dionysus69 | xD |
| 22:20.29 | clarjon1 | Need some folks to see if it's replicatable on their end |
| 22:20.37 | SpeakerToMeat | dionysus69, Btw users are identified by their numerical id (and their numerical group's id), not their user name,. |
| 22:21.13 | clarjon1 | kdevelop 5.6.0 with the python support package installed, and the Pandas python library installed |
| 22:21.19 | SpeakerToMeat | dionysus69, So if user dongo was uid 1000 on machine a, and user branto is uid 1000 on machine b, when you copy from a to b preserving ownership, all dongo files will be owned by branto |
| 22:21.21 | clarjon1 | 1) Create new python project |
| 22:21.35 | clarjon1 | 2) plop "import pandas" into project |
| 22:21.36 | SpeakerToMeat | dionysus69, The best way to find the uid on each machine is: id <user> |
| 22:21.47 | SpeakerToMeat | for example: id branto |
| 22:21.51 | clarjon1 | 3) Try to populate any of the pandas function autocompletes, crashes instead |
| 22:22.23 | dionysus69 | SpeakerToMeat: both of those users were created first so I assume if ids are incremented they would be the same, but in case it was different, I would see it by ls -alh right, it would show the other username? |
| 22:23.01 | dionysus69 | but anyways, I just checked and everything id username output are same |
| 22:23.02 | SpeakerToMeat | dionysus69, Yes but each distro uses it's own base number system, so different distros might not match for first user (or subsequent ones), though most modern ones start at uid 1000 for users and increment linearly by 1 |
| 22:23.24 | dionysus69 | well, lucky me I only use debian / ubuntu xD |
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| 22:23.42 | ntz | hello |
| 22:24.16 | SpeakerToMeat | dionysus69, Yes and no... if you're copying from user dongo who has uid 1002 on machine a, and in machine b you do not have any user with uid 1002, then when you list files with ls -l you'll see "1002" instead of a username, because there was no username to translate uid 1002 to. |
| 22:24.17 | dionysus69 | anyways, KDE is great. I just had to start working on Mac, and in terms of OS and in terms of productivity, I felt like I was a disabled person |
| 22:25.03 | ntz | remind me pls somebody a command that is wrapper to initialze other apps properly with kde environment |
| 22:25.27 | SpeakerToMeat | posix (old style) permissions are copied and handled with user ids: uids and group ids: gids, any usernames displayed are translated from the id on the fly |
| 22:25.39 | ntz | for example, if I run from konsole gimp, it has broken colours .. if I run it via krunner it works |
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| 22:25.40 | jankusanagi_ | within the Plasma Desktop, you can use kstart5 |
| 22:25.44 | SpeakerToMeat | ntz, kstart ? |
| 22:25.53 | ntz | kstart, great, thanks, that's it |
| 22:25.54 | SpeakerToMeat | ntz, or kstart5 in some versions/systems? |
| 22:26.58 | SpeakerToMeat | ntz, The counterpart is kquitapp |
| 22:27.16 | SpeakerToMeat | I use that combo when I need to force restart plasmashell without quitting :) |
| 22:27.40 | SpeakerToMeat | kquitapp plasmashell; sleep 10; kstart5 plasmashell |
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| 22:28.42 | SpeakerToMeat | (Don't quit or alt tab from your terminal in between kquitapp and kstart5 if you use it for plasmashell ;) ) |
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| 22:36.25 | jankusanagi_ | "alt-tab'ing" away from the terminal shouldn't matter, you're not quitting KWin =) |
| 22:37.04 | jankusanagi_ | and you can always invoke KRunner if you lose the terminal window |
| 22:40.05 | miggles_ | Guys, when I right-click on the title bar for an application the ability to move that application to a different activity has disappeared. Any idea why that would be? |
| 22:40.40 | jankusanagi_ | do you actually have more than one activity running? |
| 22:40.49 | miggles_ | I've still got More Actions and the Special Window/Application Settings buttons, but not the move to activity. |
| 22:40.54 | miggles_ | Three right now. |
| 22:41.17 | miggles_ | I can toggle between them with meta-tab but none of the apps are respecting the activities any more and all apps are showing all the time. |
| 22:42.13 | miggles_ | This was working yesterday and I don't recall changing anything today so not sure how I broke it. |
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| 22:53.51 | jankusanagi_ | is kactivitymanagerd running? what's your version of Plasma? |
| 22:55.45 | miggles_ | 5.19.5, pop os with kubuntu backports. |
| 22:56.01 | miggles_ | And yes, kactivitymanagerd is running. |
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| 22:58.49 | miggles_ | Just completely reset the theme to see if that helps. It does not and I still can't move apps to activities from the title bar, but now I see when I use the Show In Activities option from the right click menu of the taskbar, it doesn't store any changes there either. I set it to Personal and as soon as I come back it's set to All Activities. So ... I've completely broken activities? |
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| 23:01.41 | miggles_ | Another symptom to add to the pile, if I hold down meta-tab so that it shows the list of activities on the left side of the screen, that list won't go away when I release the keys or click on an activity. I have to hit meta-tab again to get rid of it? |
| 23:01.50 | miggles_ | I broke something good and proper. |
| 23:03.36 | jankusanagi_ | there was a bug in Plasma 5.20.0 that made kactivitymanagerd crash quite constantly, but that's clearly not your case |
| 23:04.11 | jankusanagi_ | does Pop OS actually support using Kubuntu's Backports repo? |
| 23:04.27 | Miggles | That's what I've just been wondering. |
| 23:04.33 | jankusanagi_ | wouldn't be surprised if they don't share the same version of Qt, etc... |
| 23:04.41 | Miggles | I think I might have to get rid of that after work, roll everything back and see if it sorts itself out. |
| 23:05.12 | Miggles | It was working up until this morning but I guess any update could have set that off. :/ |
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| 23:19.16 | sigNeon | jankusanagi_: what are some of the things you like about mageia? isn't that what you use? |
| 23:19.34 | jankusanagi_ | it's what I use, yes |
| 23:19.56 | sigNeon | have you always used mandrake/mandriva ? |
| 23:20.03 | sigNeon | rpm based distros? |
| 23:20.31 | jankusanagi_ | and I don't know, it JustWorksâ¢, the development team is nice, and it's the kind distribution that's been oriented for "regular users" since forever, way before Ubuntu appeared as "the savior" with their "linux for human beings" nonsense |
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| 23:20.58 | jankusanagi_ | I'm no regular user, but knowing this one deeply helps if I want to install it for some of them =) |
| 23:21.27 | jankusanagi_ | and it's community-based, not company-based, coughbuntu... cough... |
| 23:21.59 | jankusanagi_ | and yes, I've used MandrivaâMageia since around 2005 |
| 23:22.00 | sigNeon | heh |
| 23:23.16 | sigNeon | I first used debian then mandrake and have been on debian or debian based distros since about 2004 |
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| 23:23.27 | sigNeon | but first used mandrake back in 2000 |
| 23:26.10 | sigNeon | just got my new raspPi4 8GB in the mail |
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