IRC log for #kde on 20201221

00:04.03quadrathoch2Hey, is there an option to reset the size of a window to it's default one?
00:05.51Justin`quadrathoch2: I'm far from an expert but I don't think applications have a default size.
00:05.57Justin`Only a minimum specified size.
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00:12.18quadrathoch2thanks, the issue is, for whatever reason, konsole is bigger than my screen :/ and it won't remember the size (even with the toggle turned on)
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00:12.33quadrathoch2idk how that even happened Justin` :/
00:12.47Justin`Oh damn.
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00:13.33quadrathoch2yeah really weird
00:13.57Justin`I'm just looking now to see if I can find where kwin stores the window information.
00:14.42quadrathoch2Justin` thanks, as I wouldn't even know where to look :/
00:15.08Justin`Yeah I'm fairly new to KDE myself so it's a bit of an interest to me as well.
00:15.47Justin`A small hack I can think of is to add a window rule for konsole to set the size of it.
00:15.50Justin`But that's just a workaround.
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00:16.22quadrathoch2eh better than nothing :)
00:17.01Justin`OK it seems for me it was stored in the konsole settings itself, open ~/.config/konsolerc
00:17.15Justin`and delete the section called MainWindow
00:17.34Justin`Close all konsoles and start a new one.
00:18.19quadrathoch2somehow it's still the same size after restarting konsole
00:19.04quadrathoch2oO weird, so now after also removing the savesizeonexit, it works oO
00:19.07quadrathoch2thanks Justin` :)
00:19.21Justin`No problem!
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00:23.13frogenvJanKusanagi: thank you, it was the keyboard shortcut!
00:24.32quadrathoch2Justin` oO weird, now it's back to its oversize, i didn't even change something. sounds like it's a bug I need to report
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00:25.02Justin`Yeah that does sound like a bug. The only other thing I can think of is backing up that config file and removing it entirely, or your profile.
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00:25.41quadrathoch2idk, I removed everything from that file, except the defaultprofile=profile1 or sth like that
00:25.50quadrathoch2so i guess should be enough
00:26.01Justin`True.
00:27.29quadrathoch2I guess the plasma version of debian experimental _is_ experimental ^^ I also can't configure the system tray :/
00:29.17Justin`Damn.
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11:03.04Fouleni am ew to linux , just installed kde connect .i am trying to figure out what command shall i type in the "run command plugin " to launch google chrome from my hone ! anyone would help
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11:11.51_Fremen_hello everyone
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11:12.26_Fremen_recently I had experienced repeated dolphin crash on program start in debian testing KDE
11:12.35_Fremen_the fix is to delete this file "rm ~/.config/session/dolphin_dolphin_dolphin"
11:12.52_Fremen_I dont know if this is caused by debian or kde, just wanted to let you know
11:13.02_Fremen_it causes segmentation fault for some reason
11:13.05_Fremen_good bye
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14:14.37robamkhrictjanWhat is generally considered as a genius IQ score ?
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14:27.36zebragOkular has the option "facing pages"; with this option, each time you turn one page, you turn two pages; has it ever been suggested the additional page would serve as an "overlapping": you see two pages, but you turn pages one by one?
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15:50.30ennozddhello I decided to run i3wm window manager but I have KDE installed already. I  want to  run notification deamon at startup but what is the name of this notification daemon?
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16:03.34JanKusanagiPlasma's notifications are handled by Plasma itself
16:03.53JanKusanagiif you want notifications without running Plasma, you'll need your own solution
16:04.26JanKusanagiit's a freedesktop.org standard, you don't need any component from Plasma to handle those notifications
16:05.53ennozddJanKusanagi: thanks
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16:11.24FLHerneennozdd: There's a list here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_notifications#Notification_servers
16:11.35FLHerneI used to use dunst
16:15.35ennozddFLHerne: I installed  xfce4-notifyd
16:16.29ennozddI think I'll be fine
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18:31.59uberdubHi all. I'm running kde neon 5.20.4 I hadnt powered on this machine for about a year. Did dist upgrade through discover, now wont load the 5.4 kernel. Just hangs at the spash screen. tia
18:32.46uberdubI'd really like to run 5.4 with all the new upgrades.
18:33.00uberdubwireguard!!
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20:21.59Corkis there a way to do the something similar to systemd-inhibit in kde? (kde restarts the system even if systemd-inhibit says it shouldn
20:22.02Cork*'t allow it)
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21:03.58Justin`Foulen: Use "google-chrome-stable"
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21:13.14Justin`zebrag: Have you checked bugs.kde.org for a wishlist bug for that feature?
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21:14.50Justin`Cork: If your distro boots using systemd then it should respect systemd-inhibit, if it's not, it's a bug.
21:15.17Justin`uberdub: Does KDE Neon keep an older kernel? You may be able to boot from that still to diagnose the issue.
21:16.28CorkJustin`: seams org.freedesktop.PowerManagement completly ignores it
21:16.54Corki suspect it might be that it kills userland before it tries to call shutdown
21:17.35Justin`Oh I've seen something around this recently in a bug report. I am just waking up though so memory is a no go.
21:17.44Corkcause what i'm trying is opening a terminal and running
21:17.45Corksystemd-inhibit --who="test" --why="testing" bash -c "while true; do sleep 1;done"
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21:18.21Corkand shutdown in the menu launcher powers off the computer
21:18.35Justin`I'll test it now.
21:19.01Corkwhile /sbin/shutdown and systemctl poweroff works
21:19.23Cork(displays an error and doesn't stop the computer)
21:19.43ennozddhey guys I am running kubuntu and I don't  see any option  like "send files to usb drive" on dolphin. Do I need to install some stuff?
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21:20.56ennozddshare -> send to device > no  device found. I have my usb drive mounted btw
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21:25.19Justin`Cork: Somewhat unsurprisingly the only one that respects the inhibit for me is systemctl.
21:25.50CorkJustin`: gnome shell respects it though it kills the ui :)
21:26.03Justin`Well that's still kinda useless.
21:26.10Justin`Should error with the inhibit info.
21:26.19Corkpartially
21:26.39CorkJustin`: is there a way to prevent kde from starting a poweroff/shutdown/restart from a script?
21:26.52Justin`Not that I'm aware of but I'm fairly new to KDE.
21:26.55Corkfor what i need kde specific is fine
21:27.30Corkya, been hunting around for about two hours and find nothing about it...
21:28.01Corkbeen using kde for a while, but never fiddled with system shutdown flows
21:28.07Cork(in kde)
21:28.07Justin``systemd-inhibit --list` will show inhibits
21:28.16Corkya, and it is listed there
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21:28.37Corksame with qdbus --system --literal org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.ListInhibitors
21:29.03Corkbut what i need is to prevent the user actions, not script blocking
21:29.41Cork(running unattended upgrade in neon and need to prevent the user from breaking the packages)
21:29.56Justin`Users are always the worst :D
21:30.01Corktrue :)
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21:31.18Corkthe funniest part is that the biggest number of support questions i've gotten since i moved my parents from win7 to kde is "what shut down icon isn't there any more"
21:31.58Corknever happened to me before and they get it about once a month (the icon gets removed from the quick list by something until restart)
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21:33.28Justin`I just get users to leave devices on so I can do updates after hours, but that's me.
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21:33.33Justin`systemd-inhibit should work.
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21:34.31CorkJustin`: ya, except leaving it on 24/7 isn't a good option either
21:35.12Justin`My client's PCs are on 24/7. You could always go for something like wake on lan if you're concerned about 24/7 devices.
21:35.25Justin`wake on lan all PCs, do updates, and have them shutdown at the end.
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21:36.22Corkya, been thinking on that, not sure if these laptops support that though
21:36.45Justin`Anything <10 years old should but they'd have to be on ethernet I believe.
21:37.21Corkthat should be fine i think
21:37.46Corkbut ya, haven't ever looked into what wol actually entail
21:38.14Justin`wol is pretty easy. I've been meaning to set it up at my client but it involves rebooting every device into bios to enable it.
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21:39.19Corkya, i know that part, but more unsure about the signal package you send over the wire
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21:45.54Justin`Install a wake on lan client and send the magic packet. I thought it was a complex thing but I used it many years ago quite easily.
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21:54.59Justin`Sorry I shouldn't be throwing workarounds at you.
21:56.16uberdubyeah im in the old kernel now
21:56.53uberdubupdate semmed to take but when I boot into kernel 5 it just hangs
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22:10.32uberdubjustin'
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22:16.54Justin`uberdub: Try removing and re-installing the kernel that won't boot.
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22:17.12uberdubah. good idea.
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22:22.52uberdubjustin' I dfont see it installed in synaptic. do you know the package name?
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22:24.05uberdubdkms right?
22:24.29Justin`Nah dkms is for rebuilding kernel modules.
22:24.43Justin`I assume it's linux or linux-image linux-current or something.
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22:24.51Justin`Each distro names it differently.
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23:07.20uberdubjustin' reinstalled 5.4 and installed 5.8 ..no dice
23:07.33uberdubon either
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23:27.39Justin`Damn.
23:27.47Justin`Do you have an EFI partition, if so is it full?
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