IRC log for #kde on 20201229

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00:43.20porkyfor some reason it's not possible to change the resolution when running a linux dirstro with KDE in Virtualbox
00:43.53porkyother DEs can change resolution just fine in Virtualbox
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00:54.38Justin`Just setting up a VM now to test porky.
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01:00.55Justin`porky: Did you install the Virtualbox Guest Additions?
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01:01.28jankusanagi_disable the KScreen background service
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01:01.50jankusanagi_**distro with Plasma
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01:11.16Justin`I just tried and it snaps back instantly. jankusanagi_ where is that option?
01:12.14Justin`jankusanagi_: I found it, has this been reported as a bug?
01:14.29porkyJustin`, distros like manjaro and ubunt have the Virtualbox Guest Additions built in
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01:16.55Justin`Fair enough. This seems to be a bug in kscreen interfering.
01:17.36Justin`porky: if you go to System Settings > Startup and Shutdown > Background Services and stop/untick KScreen you can now change resolution.
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01:54.22HashI use Dolphin but it's not doing anymore what I need
01:55.22HashI don't like the places/folders in a tab order
01:55.35HashI want to have both Places and Folders simultaneously visible
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01:58.30jankusanagi_?
01:58.37jankusanagi_so what's the issue?
01:58.43jankusanagi_just enable both...
01:58.51HashBut they display in tabs
01:58.57jankusanagi_huh?
01:59.03HashBro.
01:59.07HashEnglish.
01:59.12HashTabs. I dunno what else to day
01:59.14Hashsay*
01:59.19HashOn the left hand side
01:59.25HashYou can either select 1 or the other
01:59.29HashYou can' thave both on at the same time
01:59.31HashThat's the issue
01:59.46HashI tried draggin the tab here and there
01:59.55HashI went through all the settings in dolphin
02:00.05HashI dunno, I can't seem to find it or it's not there
02:01.27Hashhttps://i.imgur.com/fu48MBb.png
02:01.43Hashjankusanagi_: Either you can show Places or Folders.
02:01.51HashTabs are either/or, not both at the same time.
02:02.03HashIf you now how to make them both appear simultaneously, that'd be great
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02:03.23Justin`https://i.imgur.com/DhLMp06.png <- places + folders.
02:03.59Justin`Go into places and hit F7.
02:04.29Justin`I've never seen those tabs at the bottom before. Then again I'm fairly new to KDE.
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02:11.43HashYES!
02:11.51HashIn ubuntu 18.04 it used to be like this your screenshot
02:12.11Justin`I've got the latest Dolphin and Plasma.
02:12.12HashI had both on on side, below/above ach other and resizable just like hat
02:12.14Hashthat*
02:12.24HashNow since I updated to 20.04 ubuntu, this thing happened
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02:12.57HashOk, pressing the key you said makes tabs disappear
02:13.01Hashit doesn't make both of them appear
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02:13.41Justin`Not sure what Ubuntu has done to Dolphin then :/
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02:13.52HashNothing, other than package it
02:15.39Hash*sigh*
02:15.48Justin`I'd try removing your config (back it up first).
02:15.57Justin`Or if easier create a new user and see if it is the same there.
02:16.52frogenvI just saw the announcement for neochat, I noticed that there's no menubar, which is also missing from the new system monitor
02:17.10frogenvis this just a coincidence or there's some official stance regarding killing off menubar?
02:17.16Hashhttps://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/applications/dolphin/panels.html
02:17.37Hashwhere is dolphoin config?
02:18.09Justin`~/.config/dolphinrc
02:21.00HashI renamed it and started dolphin again. It looks a bit diff icon size but otherwise no change. Still only one panel
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02:21.21HashI clicked enable panel and now it's on top
02:21.24Hashno more tabs
02:22.49Hashhttps://bpa.st/2OBA old config
02:22.56Hashhttps://bpa.st/6TCQ newly generated config
02:24.09HashI can't see any setting in either of them which would casue it to display in tabs instead
02:25.27Hashhttps://bpa.st/C2AQ
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02:25.58HashHere's the diff from newly generated, and newly generated minus the folders panel
02:26.27HashSo it's the State= something
02:26.29HashI tnink
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02:28.30HashYup
02:28.32HashThat was it.
02:28.45HashState=AAAA/wAAAAD9AAAAAwAAAAAAAAEsAAADsPwCAAAAAfwAAABYAAADsAAAAJEBAAAk+gAAAAEBAAAAAvsAAAAWAGYAbwBsAGQAZQByAHMARABvAGMAawEAAAAAAAAAmQAAAE4BAAAF+wAAABQAcABsAGEAYwBlAHMARABvAGMAawEAAAAA/////wAAAE4BAAAFAAAAAQAAALoAAAIX/AIAAAAB+wAAABAAaQBuAGYAbwBEAG8AYwBrAAAAAFgAAAIXAAAAJAEAAAUAAAADAAAHfgAAAL/8AQAAAAH7AAAAGAB0AGUAcgBtAGkAbgBhAGwARABvAGMAawAAAAAAAAAHfgAAAEYBAAAFAAAGTwAAA7AAAAAEAAAABAAAAAgAAAAI/AAAAAEAAAACAA
02:28.47HashAAAQAAABYAbQBhAGkAbgBUAG8AbwBsAEIAYQByAQAAAAD/////AAAAAAAAAAA= <--
02:28.51HashWhat the heck doe this do?
02:28.55HashWhat is this string?
02:29.05Hashalso, Justin` THANKS!
02:29.24Justin`No worries. I believe it's sort of an encoded settings string.
02:30.00HashCool. I retained all my settings AND got my stuff back.
02:30.11HashIf this string is hackable.
02:30.25HashIt would be nice to place places on one side, and folders on another side.
02:30.32HashI don't have enough vertical room you know
02:30.56HashIf one could undersand how to do this string maybe, one could place places panel on right hand, and folders on left hand.
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02:32.15HashAlso, urxvt has font letter-spaceing I can ajdust to make things -1 or -2 (much tighter toghter)
02:32.48HashHow can I do that in Konsole, if assuming the functionality is there to condense fonts even more by modifying letter spacing
02:34.27HashJustin`: which distro you have?
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03:10.31Justin`Hash: Solus.
03:18.47HashOh nice dude
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03:46.59YOOOOOAnyone here?
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04:11.22kdeioniceHas anyone used "nice" or "ionice" in KDE's "Edit Application"->"Application"->"Command"? The values look to be ignored when I run the application, but if I copy/paste that inline command into the terminal, the niceness is properly set.
04:13.12kdeioniceheh, reincarnation was reincarnated again before dying right away.
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12:50.57RhineDevilWhat are Menu Accelerators in Konsole exactly? I've searched in documentation but there's no mention of it afaik
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12:58.05akikRhineDevil: they are used to access the konsole window menus directly through keyboard alt+f for example
12:58.08JanKusanagiRhineDevil: menu accelerators are the underlined letters in the menu options
12:58.45JanKusanagithings like Ctrl+F are _shortcuts_, but I can imagine them being wrongly called "menu accelerators"
12:59.26RhineDevilJanKusanagi, but then why don't they go away if I uncheck "enable accelerators menu" in konsole?
12:59.29JanKusanagiin Konsole, being a terminal, having the menu accelerators visible is optional
12:59.47JanKusanagimaybe your Qt style doesn't respect that
13:00.07JanKusanagithey go away here as soon as I click "Apply", with Oxygen
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13:00.47RhineDevilJanKusanagi, I'm on breeze, it should respect this by default
13:00.57JanKusanagiwell, no idea
13:01.12JanKusanagiall I can say is there's no issue here with Konsole 20.12 and Oxygen
13:01.27akikso pedantic i see
13:01.35RhineDevilJanKusanagi, so what this option changes after all it's just not seeing "Ctrl+Shift+N" while clicking file?
13:01.46RhineDevil(on new window)
13:02.03JanKusanagino, what this option changes are the underlined letters
13:02.14JanKusanagiCtrl+Shift+N is a _shortcut_ not a menu accelerator
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13:02.33RhineDevilJanKusanagi, could you make an example?
13:02.45JanKusanagido you use English locale?
13:03.02akikthe shortcut alt+f doesn't do anything if you don't enable the menu accelerators
13:03.11JanKusanagiunderlined F in File, underlined E in Edit, underlined H in Help...
13:03.22JanKusanagiakik: because that's not a shortcut
13:03.50JanKusanagithat's a menu accelerator, Alt+whatever-letter-is-underlined
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13:04.00akikJanKusanagi: so you mention ctrl+f because i mention alt+f ?
13:04.18JanKusanagino, I mentioned Ctrl+F because it's a very common shortcut, for Find/Search
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13:04.41akikand no one asked about that
13:04.47RhineDevilGot that. Shortcut accelerators are just for opening menus
13:04.56JanKusanagithough that one is Ctrl+Shift+F in Konsole, because Ctrl+letter in a terminal has its own meanings
13:05.01RhineDevil*menu accelerators
13:05.05JanKusanagimenu accelerators, yes
13:05.12JanKusanaginot just to open the menus
13:05.21JanKusanagithe menu options themselves often also have underlined letters
13:05.38JanKusanagiunder File, "W" for "new window"
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13:25.47Lucretiajust trying to make the cursors bigger on my desktop, moving from the settings window to the desktop makes the cursor go back to default.
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13:28.17Lucretianow it goes back to normal size in other parts of the window.
13:28.20Lucretiaweird
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13:51.02LadiHi guys! NextCloud account cannot be connected to via Systemsettings, due to self-signed certificate, apparently. Any ideas for workaround, or does it need a trusted cert? (openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE 5.20.4)
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16:04.30strobelightdavidv7_: try Spectacle
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17:00.47davidv7_strobelight: i have, and it can't take a regional screenshot
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